Where are the simps now? I knew her not talking to the team was bad for chemistry, she dug her own grave. Stop simping, they're all pretty much to blame but she didn't help her self.
There are issues on both sides. None of this snake replacement would happen if N communicated with and built synergy with the team. Looks like a bunch of kids running into issue and resolving things in ways that were not optimal. Imo BTK manager should have stepped in and be that adult in the room for them.
The manager telling her cry baby literally everyone bullying her on this team. Cw play with her emotions and Zane ask inappropriate questions if she was virgin. basic and mielow just first prasing her in interviews behind they are conspiring against her. I mean why ask her if you treat her like that they didn't even apologize after all this . how shameless and toxic this guys are...
Her communication with the team was poor, and she contributed to the drama with CW. She’s not blameless in this. The team made the hard decision to sub her out for the good of the team and they won. There’s a $3m tournament on the line and she was jeopardizing it with her feelings for CW. Stop simping.
exactly. "but they're just running after money 🤓☝🏻" so what are they supposed to do play w friends together in a professional tournament? weird ass simps
@@Theclashminigambler if you trust his words that much then you must be new here .... The only way this could make sense is if basic decides to show the group chats ( then we can really understand what's actually being going on ) not to mention i don't even trust 100% apple but i can't ignore the chats that she showed
Do what you got to do in order to win BASIC. These dummies gonna talk like if they don't do this daily. Example: 5 men team and missing 1 player then they invite from friendlist players in order to fill in the missing member til their "friend" comes online, lol. Hypocrisy at its finest. Let's be honest. The reason she started this drama is bc of the payment it was the same amount as Marqt, lol. At the end of the day, it was all about money, poor Zane, he got fined bc of her as well.
It's not that, she worked for 3 months in btk until semi finals finished, what woudl have happened to btk if she just left regular season? Then do you think they would still have won? Mid carti?
@@ashleymarieeg4389she should've accepted the offer as a sub at first place, but at the end of the day btk won the grandfinal because their decision to replaced her so.. They all could handled the situations better if they communicate better in my opinions. Even bigger team from PH, ID subs their player often yet you don't see this problem like what apple did
I don't know dude. Zane, Basic, and Mielow all saying that they were the only one's on the team that supported her in "their side of the story." Who is lying? Apple or the 3 dudes who are saying different stories to cover their own asses? 🤔
Sounds reasonable and I'm not 100% into apple's story either but at this point trusting basic is not something that's easy to do.😹 Both sides wrong but can't say for sure who's the most at fault without the real picture.(which we'll likely never get)
bro they did best decision replacing her tho they wanna win and they did. apple still get her get her money anyway. I never watch nact but when I watch the final their new mage did so good and they might not win with apple
I'm gonna give the basic tldr to everybody about the problem with all of this: If your shy then don't play in any offline tournament. As simple as that. Apple is just not meant for offline tournaments
I came from basic discord server and waiting a couple of days to watch his stream just wanted to see the full screenshots. And his stream basically just proves nothing lmao If BTK became professional team later I'm 100% sure basic would be kicked out, he's very bad at damage control.
What i feel weird about is(according to what i have seen online, correct me if iam wrong) that apple at the beginning made it clear that she has comm skill issue and isn't comfy with the teammates except chris. But basic still wanted her replacing demon, even in regular season they felt the same issue but basic still, and insisted her to stay and with that chris thing going on behind, im sure basic knew this was inevitable that they'll have prob later on. Then even after knowing this he chose to replace her(sub her) not even 2-2's. Iam not a psychology expert but this is very mind f'ing thing considering her age and opportunities she could have,many doors would open from this msc. And cheery on the top is the paycut and not to speak out. Damn
Yea she says she has comm issue in the beginning and isn’t comfy but as a teammate that should be getting better over time, she wasn’t doing that so what other choice is there than to replace her, this isn’t some fun tournament for them with friends, it’s a 3 million dollar tournament on the line. Wake up bro it’s always about what’s best for the team and its success
Its true that she says that bro . But its a tournament and there is a team that u are a part of. If u have poor synergy wit the team how are u expecting to win the game specially against team like GG wit 5 international staged player. I can agree that the price distribution is not fair for her. But replacing her is not fair? Im not cool wit that. She needs to be replaced bro. Even tho how good she is if they cant even communicate wit each other. They cant win. Team synergy matters. No matter how good player she is. I know she work hard for the whole season and give a good role in making the team to get that far. But in pro scene, in stage its not enough. They have to make the hard choice to get the win. Bro
The only person that closed doors for apple is apple. Coming out crying with screenshots of Private messages pretty much guarantees no serious competitor in NA will play with her ever again.
@@sukmidrishe’s valid for “crying” she worked hard for hours while being a student. You clearly don’t understand and just say what’s coming out your azz
oh basic answered the issue but that does not mean he is not fucked up from that situation both are fucked but basic is more fucked he always say its everyone decision, its a team decision and they always communicate to each other but maybe he is communicating but him convincing everyone or him highlighting apple bad traits is a snake mentality sure zane can hate him but that does not mean she wanted her out and mielow being neutral tells a lot to this story sure you can say basic told the truth but that does not mean he told the entirety of the story like history often hides their ugly side basic did the same you can’t trick me you did this to paulo, ulvl, renejay, and yawi in all of this the first initial reaction is he is understandable he is only human its not that bad and etc. but in all 4 of these drama it is proven that he hide his ugly side of the story and often come out when it is out of relevance
I watch the interview. She talk about the emotional relationship with cole world. Wtf no profesionalism at all. I mean who care about your monkey love story. And she barely communicate with the team not just CW.. 😂
Introverts attention!! Dont be proud of urself being an introvert and shy guy u wont make it far with that nature u gotta show urself and speak somehow.This is a great example
She always kept to herself, didn’t communicate, distance herself from the team and expect everything to go well, she should have been kicked and not even subbed. So much for her pathetic cries. Basic only said he was the captain because Apple didn’t like Zane for whatever reason. She was mute the whole time and had so many issues with the team. She should have been kicked way earlier honestly.
Nah basic is kinda ass as gold. My wanted line up. ZANE Fwydchickn Apple Zia Shark **sub** Carti Hoon Or Coleworld **coach** Midnight **manager** Carti **analysts** Carti Zane Fwydchickn.
@@1wayroadAccel.You dont like basic that's on you. But the fact is zane also dont like apple in the team. Communication is the key in competitive tournament. So yeah, they won the grand final, brilliant decision by them.
@@kimosabehmar1671 He's not banned in any pH teams. Stop spreading misinformation. He's only banned in akosidogies boot camp because he stole renejays girlfriend because he's HIM. Cry abt it simp
Where are the simps now? I knew her not talking to the team was bad for chemistry, she dug her own grave. Stop simping, they're all pretty much to blame but she didn't help her self.
There are issues on both sides. None of this snake replacement would happen if N communicated with and built synergy with the team. Looks like a bunch of kids running into issue and resolving things in ways that were not optimal. Imo BTK manager should have stepped in and be that adult in the room for them.
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The manager telling her cry baby literally everyone bullying her on this team. Cw play with her emotions and Zane ask inappropriate questions if she was virgin. basic and mielow just first prasing her in interviews behind they are conspiring against her. I mean why ask her if you treat her like that they didn't even apologize after all this . how shameless and toxic this guys are...
She refused to talk with them , based on Basic screenshot he asked her to talk in their team chat, and join in voice com but she said no.
@@psychedelic6616 simps
@@japanglishongakubaibu2058 that's the one word u learnt to justify their wrong doing shame on your upbringing.
Her communication with the team was poor, and she contributed to the drama with CW. She’s not blameless in this. The team made the hard decision to sub her out for the good of the team and they won. There’s a $3m tournament on the line and she was jeopardizing it with her feelings for CW. Stop simping.
Ye real, I think Apple is a good player but she isn't cut for allat, people gotta stop glazing
exactly. "but they're just running after money 🤓☝🏻" so what are they supposed to do play w friends together in a professional tournament? weird ass simps
@@xen421 fr
CW ONIC? And yeah if she's the one playing in the finals BTK won't get that trophy
@@joshuaja3g3rthe North American CW is Cole World
I get Zane's point, it was really hard to see her face and when she on's vid her face barely visible.
Zane stream gunna be lit lololol
Winning is everything , do whatever it takes to win , who cares about a random girl , in the end winning or not is what we care about
People like you are so cruel
@@nilaydas9483nah people like him are logical, 3 million price pool or hurting someone's feelings? Tell me bro
People like u are simp falling for any random girls lmao randua
@@nilaydas9483 wtf in pro tournament never talk about cruel. Its about win. Who care about it
@@nilaydas9483yeah that’s the real world , friendship means nothing in business and they never had a friendship
Troublemaker in PH
troublemake in N.A
Stealing GF
Blackmailing the Girl
Because she is a girl? Damn the world is screwed.
Simps spotted 🤡
@@japanglishongakubaibu2058 we aint care about apple. We just certified basic haters. Fuck that guy😂🙏
@@japanglishongakubaibu2058Saying facts = simp.
Facts he is 🐍
Communication is key. She was only there for cw smh
Kick her out.
Qqq
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Snake is Always Snake 🐍
And after all this he is the reason for all this drama
How?? He explained everything
Not really but keep closing ur eyes and simping, sad asf ur actually a loser
@@Theclashminigambler if you trust his words that much then you must be new here .... The only way this could make sense is if basic decides to show the group chats ( then we can really understand what's actually being going on ) not to mention i don't even trust 100% apple but i can't ignore the chats that she showed
@@XaVier_771X You do realize that in mobazanes old stream where they're scrimming apple literally doesn't even talk. Stop hating on basic u simp.
@@Theclashminigamblercome back whe you are mature enough to understand.
The real snake is Midnight
Bro everyone calling anyone a snake nowadays
This dog will never stop drama in NA. Since m1 wherever he goes he created dramas
Even his nose it's trying to stop the bullshit
Now He's Blaming Zane..... BTK just Snake production or wot 😂
I dont trust this sanke for one bit.
riiiiight no comms
zane to apple: are you a virgin?
Right
Do what you got to do in order to win BASIC.
These dummies gonna talk like if they don't do this daily.
Example: 5 men team and missing 1 player then they invite from friendlist players in order to fill in the missing member til their "friend" comes online, lol. Hypocrisy at its finest.
Let's be honest. The reason she started this drama is bc of the payment it was the same amount as Marqt, lol. At the end of the day, it was all about money, poor Zane, he got fined bc of her as well.
It's not that, she worked for 3 months in btk until semi finals finished, what woudl have happened to btk if she just left regular season? Then do you think they would still have won? Mid carti?
@@ashleymarieeg4389she's a really good mage but her communication is really lacking
@@ashleymarieeg4389she should've accepted the offer as a sub at first place, but at the end of the day btk won the grandfinal because their decision to replaced her so.. They all could handled the situations better if they communicate better in my opinions. Even bigger team from PH, ID subs their player often yet you don't see this problem like what apple did
@@Apekssss lol ID have contracts if they speak up they would pay so much fines
@@ashleymarieeg4389 nah if they want speak up they would talk to their manager and resolved this like professional.
So Mr snake is back huh
Leave the drama behind and lets just think how hard basic is gonna cry when he meets actual pro gold laners in msc😂🙏
His 'we' is an excuse to not get the blame on himself though it's actually 'i'
Zane's stream bout to be the greatest stream of all time
I don't know dude. Zane, Basic, and Mielow all saying that they were the only one's on the team that supported her in "their side of the story." Who is lying? Apple or the 3 dudes who are saying different stories to cover their own asses? 🤔
Sounds reasonable and I'm not 100% into apple's story either but at this point trusting basic is not something that's easy to do.😹 Both sides wrong but can't say for sure who's the most at fault without the real picture.(which we'll likely never get)
bro they did best decision replacing her tho they wanna win and they did. apple still get her get her money anyway. I never watch nact but when I watch the final their new mage did so good and they might not win with apple
I'm gonna give the basic tldr to everybody about the problem with all of this: If your shy then don't play in any offline tournament. As simple as that. Apple is just not meant for offline tournaments
I was gonna believe in Basic but his past convince me he's a liar.
Who isn't a liar?
I came from basic discord server and waiting a couple of days to watch his stream just wanted to see the full screenshots.
And his stream basically just proves nothing lmao
If BTK became professional team later I'm 100% sure basic would be kicked out, he's very bad at damage control.
What i feel weird about is(according to what i have seen online, correct me if iam wrong) that apple at the beginning made it clear that she has comm skill issue and isn't comfy with the teammates except chris. But basic still wanted her replacing demon, even in regular season they felt the same issue but basic still, and insisted her to stay and with that chris thing going on behind, im sure basic knew this was inevitable that they'll have prob later on. Then even after knowing this he chose to replace her(sub her) not even 2-2's. Iam not a psychology expert but this is very mind f'ing thing considering her age and opportunities she could have,many doors would open from this msc. And cheery on the top is the paycut and not to speak out. Damn
Yea she says she has comm issue in the beginning and isn’t comfy but as a teammate that should be getting better over time, she wasn’t doing that so what other choice is there than to replace her, this isn’t some fun tournament for them with friends, it’s a 3 million dollar tournament on the line. Wake up bro it’s always about what’s best for the team and its success
Its true that she says that bro . But its a tournament and there is a team that u are a part of. If u have poor synergy wit the team how are u expecting to win the game specially against team like GG wit 5 international staged player. I can agree that the price distribution is not fair for her. But replacing her is not fair? Im not cool wit that. She needs to be replaced bro. Even tho how good she is if they cant even communicate wit each other. They cant win. Team synergy matters. No matter how good player she is. I know she work hard for the whole season and give a good role in making the team to get that far. But in pro scene, in stage its not enough. They have to make the hard choice to get the win. Bro
The only person that closed doors for apple is apple. Coming out crying with screenshots of Private messages pretty much guarantees no serious competitor in NA will play with her ever again.
@@sukmidrishe’s valid for “crying” she worked hard for hours while being a student. You clearly don’t understand and just say what’s coming out your azz
well NA still dont have player contracts and salary so its hard to maintain a team by friendship only.. i hope NA will get MPL soon..
Why did he attempt to silence her and give only 900?
He said he's not the one deciding on money distribution.
Did you see the name in the cropped screenshot?
she rejected 5k by saying , its not about money its about the oppurtunites i lost which tbf she did but it professional scenes u have to make choices
no receipts no truth we know your story basic snake snake snake
BTK will fall badly in international
I never sided with apple even after the drama i think the pay was fair
Looks like a snake to me
Snake 🐍
Failed import
Captain a joke💔🚫
All the drama just because Basic can't f.c.ked this girl. LOL
oh basic answered the issue but that does not mean he is not fucked up from that situation both are fucked but basic is more fucked he always say its everyone decision, its a team decision and they always communicate to each other but maybe he is communicating but him convincing everyone or him highlighting apple bad traits is a snake mentality sure zane can hate him but that does not mean she wanted her out and mielow being neutral tells a lot to this story sure you can say basic told the truth but that does not mean he told the entirety of the story like history often hides their ugly side basic did the same you can’t trick me you did this to paulo, ulvl, renejay, and yawi in all of this the first initial reaction is he is understandable he is only human its not that bad and etc. but in all 4 of these drama it is proven that he hide his ugly side of the story and often come out when it is out of relevance
snake mentality and all that is fine , but apple also only talked to liz after BTK won and the prize pool distribution was announced ,
Ok might be an unpopular opinion he is right on this part communication
Why did u give hush money then?
Didn't u see that apple blurred the picture
It was someone else
She shouldn't blur the name if it was Basic tho...so technically we dont know who gave her
it was g the aiko
I watch the interview. She talk about the emotional relationship with cole world. Wtf no profesionalism at all. I mean who care about your monkey love story. And she barely communicate with the team not just CW.. 😂
Than communicate with hoon
💀
Not neccessary lol, they are not teammates
He is lying
Basic and mielow are lying zane said the truth 1 week before grand finals
Introverts attention!! Dont be proud of urself being an introvert and shy guy u wont make it far with that nature u gotta show urself and speak somehow.This is a great example
Master manipulator back at it again
She always kept to herself, didn’t communicate, distance herself from the team and expect everything to go well, she should have been kicked and not even subbed. So much for her pathetic cries. Basic only said he was the captain because Apple didn’t like Zane for whatever reason. She was mute the whole time and had so many issues with the team. She should have been kicked way earlier honestly.
That's btk fault for recruiting her imagine a single girl goes in a pool of 4 man wouldn't it be uncomfortable? That's why it's btk fault either way
Nah basic is kinda ass as gold.
My wanted line up.
ZANE
Fwydchickn
Apple
Zia
Shark
**sub**
Carti
Hoon
Or Coleworld
**coach**
Midnight
**manager**
Carti
**analysts**
Carti
Zane
Fwydchickn.
Go play Tetris please
@@mikasa2.057 yeah that good. I can beat you in ml. Free fire. Minecraft. Now tetris.
apple? if she communicates then sure if no then eh
Nah stick to Marqt
@@keiji_Shimizu as time goes she will talk alot like shark.
Everyone is taking Apple side cause she's famous and a girl. Stop simping. This is a 5 man game communication is important
she's a nobody we are taking her side because we know Basic's mindset lmao big difference kid.
@@1wayroadAccel.You dont like basic that's on you. But the fact is zane also dont like apple in the team. Communication is the key in competitive tournament. So yeah, they won the grand final, brilliant decision by them.
Listen guys before you write anything this guy took money from a guy just to get some money for himself that's how greedy he is
Idk but for some reason this time I agree with basic 🫢
I don't trust this snake one bit after all the bs he has done, there's a reason why he's banned by ph teams
Yes trust a snake
why look at the past bruh, look at the present
@@kimosabehmar1671 He's not banned in any pH teams. Stop spreading misinformation. He's only banned in akosidogies boot camp because he stole renejays girlfriend because he's HIM. Cry abt it simp
He is a liar always lie