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  • Опубликовано: 22 окт 2024

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  • @trumoomoo
    @trumoomoo 2 года назад +574

    Joe's Pivot in a argument is crazy every time he gets proved wrong his point was something else LMAO

    • @justinhoward2132
      @justinhoward2132 2 года назад +74

      Ish catch it every time lol

    • @dadestar5
      @dadestar5 2 года назад +49

      Lol ODIEEEEE!!! Goalpost is forever moving! He like the wack-a-mole at the carnival

    • @dadestar5
      @dadestar5 2 года назад +21

      @@justinhoward2132 facts! Uncle Ish hold him to the fire every time! Naw bucko you ain’t say that

    • @odetochef
      @odetochef 2 года назад +3

      @@dadestar5 FACTS

    • @brendonlorraine3090
      @brendonlorraine3090 2 года назад +10

      At this point it’s a skill 😂

  • @LilWhoa123
    @LilWhoa123 2 года назад +348

    “I gave you a billion dollars, I look up 7 years later, and your a BIGGER BLOOD!”….Surf funny as hell!!!🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @vexotimmer2675
      @vexotimmer2675 2 года назад +17

      LOL, that part was cracking me up too.

    • @khristopherj8603
      @khristopherj8603 2 года назад +16

      Bruuuuuuuh 😂😂😂 I laughed for 10 minutes offa that. Best JBP ever IMO.

    • @LioEPD
      @LioEPD 2 года назад +8

      Bruh I'm still laughing at this part LMAO

    • @jprocha2395
      @jprocha2395 2 года назад +12

      Dawg I LOST it. I need Surf as a regular on the show

    • @indianapaullyj
      @indianapaullyj 2 года назад +3

      Truth in humor 😮‍💨

  • @slickway_apparel
    @slickway_apparel 2 года назад +62

    "You the only nigga in here agreeing with ya fucking self" 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Ish is the kryptonite to Joe every time

  • @farrellcityking1
    @farrellcityking1 2 года назад +397

    Phenomenal episode. Surf 100% needs his own podcast. He’s ultra interesting to listen to.

    • @k2bgaming19
      @k2bgaming19 2 года назад +21

      He got one . Twitter Space . Lol

    • @MakingMovesMajor
      @MakingMovesMajor 2 года назад +3

      Just go on his Spaces he talks all day

    • @ogbobbyt2159
      @ogbobbyt2159 2 года назад +4

      Talked all that shit bout Math Hoffa only to try & be Math

    • @BIGOPP718
      @BIGOPP718 2 года назад +11

      @@ogbobbyt2159 math can’t get a battle so he had no choice to cross over 😂

    • @ADG.Est.1988
      @ADG.Est.1988 2 года назад

      Indeed

  • @TeeWhyFitness
    @TeeWhyFitness 2 года назад +167

    Joes a genius! he doesn’t believe what he argues but knows how to make a pod entertaining, the man is smart👏🏾

    • @kareemlawson878
      @kareemlawson878 2 года назад +18

      Naa he believes what he’s saying, the thing is joes not entirely wrong

    • @vanguardny
      @vanguardny 2 года назад +2

      Completely agree "DID YOU SAY YEAHHHHH" 😂😂😂😂 the end was crazy

    • @JohnDoe-db6rr
      @JohnDoe-db6rr 2 года назад +5

      You just explained a troll 😂

    • @the2ndcoming135
      @the2ndcoming135 2 года назад

      I’m from the future. Here’s y’all heads up. Y’all don’t know perspectives🙋🏽‍♂️

    • @Pinkricaan
      @Pinkricaan 2 года назад

      BF Tee Why?

  • @crash1984
    @crash1984 2 года назад +82

    When surf said after 7 years all you did was become a BIGGER BLOOD 😂😂it was over. and it was all love at the end yo I love this pod man

    • @MetaMan09
      @MetaMan09 2 года назад

      Yeah that one point he made got me to understand they angle but I really do agree with Joe 💯💯💯

    • @reezyvofficial
      @reezyvofficial 2 года назад +4

      @@MetaMan09 Joe was wrong. You don’t reach a certain level unless you’re perceived a certain way.

    • @MetaMan09
      @MetaMan09 2 года назад +3

      @@reezyvofficial which proves his whole point that our business savvy leaders aren’t Re guarded the way they should be, that’s why he kept sayin that they explanation proves his point

    • @MacP12
      @MacP12 Год назад

      @@MetaMan09these Niggas still don’t understand lmao it’s crazy

  • @Ice215Man
    @Ice215Man 2 года назад +120

    I see why he put this out. This too much fire to keep locked up.

    • @worldnewz6963
      @worldnewz6963 2 года назад +2

      U gotta watch Surf 2nd episode that shit is hilarious for like 90 minutes straight

  • @jaymesmean
    @jaymesmean 2 года назад +164

    Ish always has intelligent points. Its good to have that brother on this show as he rarely makes his points based on his feelings.

    • @activeshooterlifestyle
      @activeshooterlifestyle 2 года назад +23

      He out debates Joe on a very consistent basis and it's frustrating to watch Joe refuse to admit he's wrong.

    • @401Li
      @401Li 2 года назад +1

      I like hearing him and ice points fr🙏

    • @dimendkai
      @dimendkai 2 года назад +10

      he was on the debate team in highschool, it makes sense. he’s used to debating without being biased, which is the whole point of debating. but most ppl argue instead of debate, ppl get too emotionally attached to their opinions, that they’re blinded by logic and all emotion.

    • @stackerstarve3087
      @stackerstarve3087 2 года назад

      @@dimendkai as a capricorn, we think black and white , what’s right and wrong

  • @AB.33200
    @AB.33200 2 года назад +95

    This was the best pod ever lmao. The ending was HILARIOUS Joe is a PROFESSIONAL

  • @darrenjones6075
    @darrenjones6075 2 года назад +18

    This is the greatest argument that’s ever happened on this episode. Ish’s walk off is legendary 😂😂😂🙌🏿🙌🏿

  • @ralph707
    @ralph707 2 года назад +166

    Couldn’t wait for this to drop. Surf can be added for the spice he brings to the table

    • @OneCash
      @OneCash 2 года назад +8

      Now I actually get why Joe didn't introduce him earlier to the pod. Surf knows how to cut through all his bs :D

    • @roachfatthenostalgist7535
      @roachfatthenostalgist7535 2 года назад +8

      Surf is perfect for this Podcast.

    • @jrcolacola
      @jrcolacola 2 года назад +2

      Nah, the dynamic they already have is perfect. Surf need his own Pod.

  • @hennyNight
    @hennyNight 2 года назад +324

    Parks does a good job at staying quiet during the touchy topics 😂😂😂😂😂

    • @jiggy9456
      @jiggy9456 2 года назад +13

      Cause he knows we dont wanna hear from his ass lmao

    • @vmac3682
      @vmac3682 2 года назад +82

      He was trying to think of a way to agree with Joe but couldn’t come up with anything.

    • @LilPaycheck
      @LilPaycheck 2 года назад +7

      @@vmac3682 this narrative is so false lol y’all still bitter

    • @vmac3682
      @vmac3682 2 года назад +34

      @@LilPaycheck lol it was a joke Omarito. Have a sense of humour my boy. You won’t win a prize monitoring you tube comments to defend the guys.

    • @LilPaycheck
      @LilPaycheck 2 года назад +1

      @@vmac3682 nigga you act as if there isn’t a running narrative and as if it was so obvious you was joking

  • @KhaosMatador
    @KhaosMatador 2 года назад +102

    Dropping this right before the battle Sunday is huge indirect promo. Whether Joe's or Surf's idea, this is pretty smart.

    • @darnelldarden9429
      @darnelldarden9429 2 года назад

      Word it’s perfect

    • @consistentbuy8988
      @consistentbuy8988 2 года назад +2

      Its not indirect at all lmao

    • @consistentbuy8988
      @consistentbuy8988 2 года назад +2

      Its promo lmaoo

    • @KhaosMatador
      @KhaosMatador 2 года назад +3

      @@consistentbuy8988 I'm sayin, they didn't record this pod this week or last week. It was released on Patreon awhile ago.
      Putting it on youtube was a good idea for this weekend, is what im sayin

    • @consistentbuy8988
      @consistentbuy8988 2 года назад +1

      @@KhaosMatador yeah it was good promo he might have known surfs schedule? So maybe he could have kept it until surfs shit came up...

  • @DcProfDenzel
    @DcProfDenzel 2 года назад +65

    Joe you're wrong, just accept that. Ish & Surf are totally correct. They cracked your muffin my man, & it's okay it happens.

    • @northcarolina7742
      @northcarolina7742 2 года назад +1

      Right lol

    • @brianjacques5970
      @brianjacques5970 2 года назад +6

      They definitely cooked Joe!

    • @nsmith3128
      @nsmith3128 2 года назад +2

      He's wrong because he just don't explain his points the best. But what I think he was trying to explain he would've been right.

  • @MakingMovesMajor
    @MakingMovesMajor 2 года назад +351

    Joe really be trolling his friends into near fist fights for our entertainment

    • @CoryJonesMusic
      @CoryJonesMusic 2 года назад +2

      See he really is a great guy

    • @alonzox5420
      @alonzox5420 2 года назад +5

      He’s not trolling Joe is making a great point

    • @jbmoblin3
      @jbmoblin3 2 года назад +2

      And it's appreciated otc 😅🤧

    • @easymoney9851
      @easymoney9851 2 года назад +19

      He wasn't trolling, he just realized he was dead wrong and tried to change it up

    • @alonzox5420
      @alonzox5420 2 года назад +5

      @@easymoney9851 I understood his point. Ish ice and surf also misrepresented Joe’s point as Joe never stated is HOV viewed as an “equal” they added those words

  • @DeshawnVisionz
    @DeshawnVisionz 2 года назад +86

    There needs to be a petition for Tsu to stay on this show forever😂🔥

  • @douse89
    @douse89 2 года назад +56

    😂😂😂😂 the intensity and how mad they are is hilarious!!! 🤣🤣🤣 Joe stop raising Ish’s blood pressure!

    • @tabithajones2471
      @tabithajones2471 2 года назад +6

      🤣🤣🤣 I've never seen Ish like this

    • @dmoney1148
      @dmoney1148 2 года назад +8

      @@tabithajones2471 big bruh was in rare form 😂😂

    • @korydavis8137
      @korydavis8137 2 года назад

      He does that shit on purpose 🤣🤣🤣.

  • @isaiahwilliams6356
    @isaiahwilliams6356 2 года назад +95

    Probably one of my favorite episodes ever, the point Joe was trying to make about black people not getting their just due is an important psychological barrier that needs addressing. "White ice is colder"

    • @RAMONE1907
      @RAMONE1907 2 года назад +4

      Yeah Joe is stuck on race. I think Tyler Perry highly regarded for his accomplishments. There are plenty of black people who are celebrated on a major level.

    • @farrellcityking1
      @farrellcityking1 2 года назад +21

      @@RAMONE1907 You miss the point. Even tho Tyler Perry has built a Hollywood level studio outside of Hollywood, which is unheard of, he’s still seen as the guy that plays Madea. And that’s ridiculous. The man is building an airport for cripes sake… and the first thing you address him as is the guy in a dress. 😐 Same goes for Jay-Z. His mother in law was just saying this a couple months ago. That the well to do white folks have talked about him to her as a former drug dealer rapper, even tho he’s waaaaaaaaaaaaaay past that now, and how they can’t see why Beyonce decided to deal with him.

    • @RAMONE1907
      @RAMONE1907 2 года назад +3

      @@farrellcityking1 That's how you and Joe see him. Also it's not ridiculous to be recognized for your most famous work.

    • @val770
      @val770 2 года назад +11

      @@RAMONE1907 if you look through his awards in his field, he has not been given his just due. The Emmys and Oscars had to give him honorary awards 20+ years into his career (his first award from any of these institutions) after shutting out his shows and movies for years. He built an empire and still couldn’t be recognized because the people judging, culturally, don’t understand why his movies could be considered good and artistically great.

    • @Musa-ut6ce
      @Musa-ut6ce 2 года назад

      @@RAMONE1907 No, Tyler Perry is highly regarded. Shit Harvey Weinstein was regarded higher than that man even though he was a foul nigga.

  • @yerrp1912
    @yerrp1912 2 года назад +9

    “Ohh you’re not understanding my argument”
    This man will drive someone crazy lmaoo

  • @talltayls21
    @talltayls21 2 года назад +14

    Oh my God! 😮 This episode got SPIIIIICY on the back-end. Joe, you deseve some type of recognition for how truly dedicated to your view you will stand. This guy refuses to budge an inch. He walk up in the White House, sits in the presidents chair, and if he tells himself he’s the new president just like that, BELIEVE we got ourselves a new president. And nobody tellin this man otherwise.
    Without Joe being so dedicated to not budging an inch, we wouldn’t get these type of debated though. And sometimes it takes a little raw emotion to drive the point home, and make the listener fully understand

  • @mattwilkerson6226
    @mattwilkerson6226 2 года назад +104

    They were on the back of the lady london interview with this one. They were podding for over 5 hours straight and didn't skip a beat! Both were fire and did the content is amazing! Good views and opinions. The JBP is on a run! Lay down or stay down!

  • @1lilceaser1
    @1lilceaser1 2 года назад +146

    Joe can never be wrong... shifts angles to suit his view EVERYTIME

    • @OneCash
      @OneCash 2 года назад +5

      every dam time but I love it

    • @DcProfDenzel
      @DcProfDenzel 2 года назад +9

      Yeah, but this one got me this time, he needed to acknowledge that he was clearly in the wrong. Ish killed his ass.

    • @kanthonyofficial
      @kanthonyofficial 2 года назад +1

      he really might be a republican lmaooo

    • @graphicswithlmf
      @graphicswithlmf 2 года назад +2

      You need a person to disagree and have a different opinion it help move the conversation hate joe had to die on the hill tho 😳😬😂

    • @MarvinTheMartian925
      @MarvinTheMartian925 2 года назад +3

      every single time man haha

  • @asamax97
    @asamax97 2 года назад +155

    Y’all been dropping fire I’m happy for y’all let’s goooooo

    • @rostanley
      @rostanley 2 года назад +5

      All fax no printer!

    • @hazyfupayme
      @hazyfupayme 2 года назад +3

      Word and floooding the block lol. I done forgot when we drop now, It's like every other day

    • @jbrig6959
      @jbrig6959 2 года назад

      On that ass like grass for real

    • @Kaustic410
      @Kaustic410 2 года назад +3

      Facts tho ! Makes me glad to see when people give this platform the just do it deserves .. Joe and the team is on a crazy run and they really working working .. Anybody that grinds will respect it !!!

    • @Stvrshow
      @Stvrshow 2 года назад +1

      Agreeeeed make surf a frequent guest

  • @bfrankcash4385
    @bfrankcash4385 2 года назад +25

    This was pure gold! Shout to Surf for his contribution.. keep educating and inspiring the culture. 🔥

  • @steveh3924
    @steveh3924 2 года назад +21

    Joe I'm day one.
    This is up there!!! Y'all killed it
    Surf and ish went crazy

  • @blackdynamite5016
    @blackdynamite5016 2 года назад +44

    This has to be top 5 when it comes to conversations in JBP history 💯

  • @muhfkajones
    @muhfkajones 2 года назад +55

    Surf is really one of the most underrated music artists in the game. Bro music is so fire 🔥 As a fan of him in battle rap too, he should have been on this run he's on, but I understood why he wasn't. This next opponent doesn't even realize how spooky Surf is about to be come Sunday. Shoutout to one of my favorite rappers out right now and my favorite battle rapper besides Ill Will 💯

    • @vadodacruz6317
      @vadodacruz6317 2 года назад +1

      Nah Cortez knows exactly what he gettin into. Now is what he has on Sunday enough to beat surf? Don’t know. Is surf gonna choke? That’s a valid question too…

    • @muhfkajones
      @muhfkajones 2 года назад +1

      @Vado Dacruz stop asking if that man gone choke until it happens and it hasn't happened in his past 3 battles. At some point folks gotta stop bringing that up 🤷🏿‍♂️ Cor cool but it's nothing he does better than Surf. Period!

    • @villain815
      @villain815 2 года назад

      Its likey surf gonna choke in this battle he's not gonna take cortez serious..

    • @qindatrap8098
      @qindatrap8098 2 года назад

      Surf goin 30 cor

    • @villain815
      @villain815 2 года назад

      @@qindatrap8098 i would love if that happens.... cor is surf elder if cor go hard he mite can end surf ...if cor get super personal he might can win...

  • @leon.222
    @leon.222 2 года назад +14

    JBP BOYS! - watch Ish @ 2:28:35 vigorously getting out of his chair while pushing the mic away .. all while saying, "Let's bet money on it! How much money you got?! -- That was hilarious at least 6 times over again. Best episode in my opinion !

  • @huey...
    @huey... 2 года назад +62

    Such a captivating episode, Joe is outstanding at playing devils advocate

    • @thebestoutta2159
      @thebestoutta2159 2 года назад

      semantics

    • @ushuaia6284
      @ushuaia6284 2 года назад +1

      Him saying Websters dictionary is wrong is playing devils advocate too huh

    • @jbmoblin3
      @jbmoblin3 2 года назад

      Should do down in the HOF as the best to do it 🤧

    • @the2ndcoming135
      @the2ndcoming135 2 года назад

      “You talk different! And, that’s why them n*ggas be mad at you.”💀

  • @iAmAyoDigital
    @iAmAyoDigital 2 года назад +58

    Two things can be right at the same time… both Joe and Ish are right, just on different levels.

    • @godbodywoowoo
      @godbodywoowoo 2 года назад +7

      Exactly. Joe saying how shit should be, Ish is saying how it is.

    • @iAmAyoDigital
      @iAmAyoDigital 2 года назад

      @@godbodywoowoo 💯

    • @Isadore
      @Isadore 2 года назад +3

      Yes two things can be right, but Joe is just wrong. He’s trying to spin it into “this is what I’m really asking” all the time when somebody answers his question, and the majority doesn’t side with his view point.
      This nigga really said take money out of the equation to try and prove his point, then threw money back in to try and say they were wrong 🤣. I’m never listening to the man who said doubling down on a $100 bet means I owe you $300 if I lose.

  • @melo2litt567
    @melo2litt567 2 года назад +66

    i love how joe will not give in even tho he's wrong lmaoooo ish cracked a muffin on this one

    • @godzshadow9001
      @godzshadow9001 2 года назад +1

      Ish should be locked up

    • @brianjacques5970
      @brianjacques5970 2 года назад +4

      Bro seriously, that shit was pissin me off lol

    • @BoneInRibeye
      @BoneInRibeye 2 года назад +6

      "Ohhh you thought I was sayin...." makes me laugh everything Ish corners him

  • @evolutionaryapostle5488
    @evolutionaryapostle5488 2 года назад +45

    Surf's Mexican theme approach during his face-off with Cortez was priceless.
    That toy chihuahua barking at Cortez had me dying. lol

    • @cr5cc
      @cr5cc 2 года назад +2

      Cortez is not Mexican tho but shit was funny

    • @evolutionaryapostle5488
      @evolutionaryapostle5488 2 года назад +1

      Cortez does strike as a big gutted rican hanging out in front of the bodega drinking a tall bud in a can while playing dominoes.

    • @cousinblvck
      @cousinblvck 2 года назад

      I believe in history repeating itself and im guntitles all day..Surf gonna fuck around and take Cortez lite like he did 40 bars lol.Watch.I hope not but im nervous about this Sunday for him.Cortez is still a legend and was smoking shit before Surf was Surf

    • @muhfkajones
      @muhfkajones 2 года назад +6

      "Chicoooo" 🤣

    • @evolutionaryapostle5488
      @evolutionaryapostle5488 2 года назад

      @@muhfkajones I died

  • @williedeals8570
    @williedeals8570 2 года назад +45

    This might be the best episode in JBP history

    • @SoulMusic24
      @SoulMusic24 2 года назад +6

      that’s a stretch. There are some legendary episodes over the years. This one is very good tho and the conversation was very insightful

    • @Rf201njfam
      @Rf201njfam 2 года назад

      You can't be serious

    • @BenGrizz
      @BenGrizz 2 года назад

      Whats the top 5?

    • @deec2378
      @deec2378 2 года назад +1

      Best episode was when they broke down the Kanye subs on sicko mode

    • @frankystrings
      @frankystrings 2 года назад

      The old mal and rory clips were definitely funnier but this the 2nd episode post them I've listened in entirety (the bdk krs verzus was 1st) because I love battle rap lol

  • @TNH-ob5uo
    @TNH-ob5uo Год назад +33

    Free Surf🙏🏾👽

  • @Trickzstah
    @Trickzstah 2 года назад +29

    This the best episode in “I’ll name this podcast later” history!!!!!!

  • @manicjsvision444
    @manicjsvision444 2 года назад +23

    This might be the most entertaining debate I've seen on RUclips in a long time 😂 lmao. Keep it coming haha

  • @lesterdewee7907
    @lesterdewee7907 2 года назад +20

    Conversations ft Tsu Surf - one of the Joe’s greatest hits.

    • @dreday1969
      @dreday1969 2 года назад +2

      But that’s surf song

    • @mercish
      @mercish 2 года назад

      😂😂😂😂

  • @jasoncomments8906
    @jasoncomments8906 2 года назад +19

    🙌🏾🙌🏾this what I been waiting for! “Bullets in me forever Johnny! Some rounds I still can’t get out”😤

    • @wetmoney85
      @wetmoney85 2 года назад

      Rounds not bullets my guy

    • @marLamaDeo
      @marLamaDeo 2 года назад +4

      @@wetmoney85 this is a Tsu Surf quote

  • @74tilitblow71
    @74tilitblow71 2 года назад +7

    Ish calling Joe out on not owing Mal and Rory respect is CRAZY. I love this dude, man

  • @michaelpeak2438
    @michaelpeak2438 2 года назад +15

    Needed this episode. Surf would be an amazing addition on the show.

  • @darnelldarden9429
    @darnelldarden9429 2 года назад +34

    Surf is the Ric Flair of battle rap. He can talk with the best of them and backs it up on that stage when it’s go time

    • @sityxx1829
      @sityxx1829 2 года назад

      Except wrestling is scripted

    • @darnelldarden9429
      @darnelldarden9429 2 года назад

      @@sityxx1829 and battle rap has groups and people who work in concert together even tho they are battling.

    • @marcusaurelius6873
      @marcusaurelius6873 2 года назад

      Not really...yea his last 3 were good but he chokes more than he wins.

    • @1990POE
      @1990POE 2 года назад +4

      @@marcusaurelius6873 🧢 . Y’all gotta stop counting debatable battles as clear losses. This narrative that he loses a lot is a terrible take

    • @tashajones3661
      @tashajones3661 2 года назад +1

      @@marcusaurelius6873 exactly he's on some Cassidy shit won 1 or 2 battles recently and now supposed to forget the 500 choke ups.

  • @cherellewilliams458
    @cherellewilliams458 2 года назад +15

    The levels of intellect I see is very magnetic. Keep going, there is something in these podcasts that are sparking something.

  • @hotjupiter3395
    @hotjupiter3395 2 года назад +28

    I LOVE this chemistry. Amazing show.

  • @LoVeInADiUniVerSe
    @LoVeInADiUniVerSe 2 года назад +8

    this the best talk i seen/heard in a VERY long time.. and how intense it got was cleansing

  • @derekaddison4835
    @derekaddison4835 2 года назад +117

    It’s really simple: ish is describing things as they are. Joe is describing things as they should be. If I bring billions to the table, who cares if I have a red star on my head or a grill? I’ve demonstrated my value. This is what Kanye was also ranting about. I’m surprised Joe didn’t bring Kanye & Nike’s history as an example to illustrate his point. Ish is right though: You can’t sit at that table if you’re perceived a certain way. Using Jay Z as an example was checkmate.

    • @jamilbelle
      @jamilbelle 2 года назад

      Message 💎

    • @deew.4920
      @deew.4920 2 года назад +2

      True, but when you walked through the doors by someone more capable than you, it’s different....

    • @theblackmanwholaughs6670
      @theblackmanwholaughs6670 2 года назад +11

      You just explained why Ish was wrong though... Ish saying that you can't show up to a meeting with red star tattoos and a grill but those things are the only reason you got the meeting in the first place... Which goes back to Joe's point about the industry being selective about who they put backing behind... They are actively looking for dummy's... Which is why they put backing behind drill rappers... They aren't the only rappers that generate dollars BUT they generate dollars AND they aren't a threat to the establishment... ISH is talking as if the industry doesn't have options... That's what Joe and Ice are eluding to... The industry doesn't have to ride the drill wave if they don't want to...

    • @wethepeople4028
      @wethepeople4028 2 года назад +1

      Nah this true but not true this doesn’t apply to any other race. Because white people, Chinese, Indian(middle eastern) pull up looking to multiple tables looking exactly how the white American culture perceived them n cartoons or jokes or there fears yet they do the deal. It’s only the black culture that’s judged still on the color of they skin or how they dress or act naturally to define their actions, business, future.

    • @soribakaba9393
      @soribakaba9393 2 года назад +1

      @@theblackmanwholaughs6670 facts

  • @toyrich2520
    @toyrich2520 2 года назад +15

    Aye Yo , Surf Is A Less Abrasive Version Of Joe .. The Way He Breaks Down His Thought Is Masterful .. I'd Love Ta Hear This Man Speak Everyday

  • @LeMamour
    @LeMamour 2 года назад +17

    I been waiting for this one; and the ransom one too. Thanks JBP

  • @objyashad1542
    @objyashad1542 2 года назад +43

    This the one that people been waiting for🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @cheevatv6778
    @cheevatv6778 2 года назад +39

    Parks sat this one out for the team like a true champ🙌🏿
    Best podcast in the worlddddd Craig

    • @A1beams
      @A1beams 2 года назад

      Like a true champ? Like a true simp

    • @creoleteeneworleans6836
      @creoleteeneworleans6836 2 года назад

      💯

    • @frankystrings
      @frankystrings 2 года назад

      @@A1beams he's an engineer you goof.

    • @A1beams
      @A1beams 2 года назад

      @@frankystrings what’s that got to do with being Joe’s simp?

    • @frankystrings
      @frankystrings 2 года назад

      @@A1beams he's not paid to make opinions. He's there to push buttons.

  • @LordMerlic
    @LordMerlic 2 года назад +3

    I have been rocking with the Joe Budden podcast for years. This is one of the best ever! Everyone is hot, yelling and talking shit! Phenomenal!

  • @tayway2225
    @tayway2225 2 года назад +22

    This was 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 ish had a hearty breakfast this morning I’m not gon like the battle rap talk was 😴 but the topics COOKED 👏🏾

  • @Rr48.
    @Rr48. 2 года назад +6

    ‘We pull up definitions of words and u say it’s wrong ‘😭😭💀

  • @NykNothinElse
    @NykNothinElse 2 года назад +55

    I’ve seen enough clips of this episode to know the full will be classic

  • @bangmain5355
    @bangmain5355 2 года назад +4

    This pod doesn't have enough views... This is a think tank master class.
    Big up to Ish, joe... Respect ✊🏾💪🏾

  • @godzshadow9001
    @godzshadow9001 2 года назад +9

    Maaaaaan this episode was riveting 🔥🔥🔥This was one of them. Excellent pod fellas!!

  • @akimbah
    @akimbah 2 года назад +12

    It never ending with the good content,the Joe budden podcast is on fire 🔥

  • @terrencel323
    @terrencel323 2 года назад +15

    "Now that you mention that, it strengthens my argument."
    🤣🤣🤣🤣
    Joe is hilarious.

    • @MetaMan09
      @MetaMan09 2 года назад

      It really did tho 💯💯💯

  • @KDazee
    @KDazee 2 года назад +16

    For musicians this is without a doubt the best and most valuable JBP episode of all time

  • @barnabaschiriya5385
    @barnabaschiriya5385 2 года назад +6

    You're just a bigger blood @2:33:50 is CRAZY!! Surf built for poddin

  • @pauljadon2107
    @pauljadon2107 2 года назад +5

    This is a classic episode. I’ve had my doubts but joe a God at changing the main point of an argument by bringing similar but different correct point to a different unasked question.

  • @thecalicreez
    @thecalicreez 2 года назад +134

    Can we admit that the pod is better now w/Ice and Ish than it was with Rory and Mal?

    • @Travis937
      @Travis937 2 года назад +9

      💯💯💯

    • @EM-lv3lw
      @EM-lv3lw 2 года назад +21

      Still these comments. 🤦‍♀️

    • @Alafi1
      @Alafi1 2 года назад +29

      Two different energies! Both good in their own way

    • @bherbo3943
      @bherbo3943 2 года назад +28

      Joe with Rory and Mal at the peak of their friendship is the greatest pod of all time. But ish and ice is definitely better than the more recent Rory & Mal episodes.

    • @improbablyyourdad8458
      @improbablyyourdad8458 2 года назад +18

      Nah. Whenever I watch one I realize how much I want to see them with the other. Rory and Mal have a more light hearted comedic pod and The JBP is more of a informative debate show with laughs sprinkled in, and I often feel like they need each other to balance the vibe. I honestly hope they eventually peace it up so we can get a collab with everyone together.

  • @colinsmith4098
    @colinsmith4098 2 года назад +7

    This pod is hilarious...I got a glimpse of what me and my day ones look like when we get into heated arguments...

  • @NevthaChefGaming
    @NevthaChefGaming 2 года назад +8

    Been waiting on this drop for a month, ish standing up throwing money on the floor did it for me 😂

  • @NewYorkRebel187
    @NewYorkRebel187 7 месяцев назад +2

    This man should not be in prison. He is good at communicating with people and seems to have a good head on his shoulder just wrong company. Someone of his caliber should not be getting caught up and I’m saying that with all the respect for his potential

  • @vanguardny
    @vanguardny 2 года назад +8

    Joe is a master at pulling n evoking emotions out of people to express their points. Forces them to expound and articulate their perspective. Now whether he believes his own points is a different question, makes for interesting podding

    • @lmoore9676
      @lmoore9676 2 года назад

      Facts. Conversations with polarized points are way more interesting than conversations where people agree. I don't care if it is intentional or accidental, what Joe does works.

    • @dlo615
      @dlo615 2 года назад

      Lmaoo now is see why him n taxstone went off

  • @MRMAN-wb1tv
    @MRMAN-wb1tv 2 года назад +27

    *This came right on time. Makes my decision to wait for 2-3 hours at Lexus instead of getting the loaner much better.*

  • @cherellewilliams458
    @cherellewilliams458 2 года назад +32

    I might’ve misjudged you Joe, you’re actually very smart. It’s all love because this was very genuine.

    • @louiethexiii1
      @louiethexiii1 2 года назад +4

      I’m curious…. What made u think he wasn’t smart 😂

    • @postsniper-7532
      @postsniper-7532 2 года назад +7

      Joe is intelligent he’s also insane

    • @cherellewilliams458
      @cherellewilliams458 2 года назад +1

      @@postsniper-7532 Einstein was one of the maddest people to exist. Joes cool.

    • @postsniper-7532
      @postsniper-7532 2 года назад +1

      @@cherellewilliams458 Einstein was only a mad scientist to his peers at the time pushing know intellectual boundaries will do that joe is an illogical unfaltering psycho at points that’s different

    • @cherellewilliams458
      @cherellewilliams458 2 года назад

      @@postsniper-7532 true I see what you’re saying

  • @lovebeefyoutube
    @lovebeefyoutube 2 года назад +43

    Damn Joe you the MVP for this one

  • @ShinGodzilla1011
    @ShinGodzilla1011 2 года назад +5

    Since the podcast started I’ve been waiting for surf to be on here hopefully he does a couple more with you guys & starts his own podcast on your network

  • @BTBOFFICIAL
    @BTBOFFICIAL 2 года назад +9

    I love this. Keep going, JBP. Y’all let me know who or what y’all get into on Patreon, and its like this informative and entertaining, I’ll get Patreon for this content. Blessings, y’all. 💯

    • @julesroussel5093
      @julesroussel5093 2 года назад

      Joe at the end of the episode is so proud of what he made them do

    • @ShizPhilly
      @ShizPhilly 2 года назад

      They delve into other topics, certain guests can only be seen on Patreon and it’s a lot of extra content on Patreon def worth it to me

  • @activeshooterlifestyle
    @activeshooterlifestyle 2 года назад +27

    Joe got smoked in that debate with
    Ish. He can never admit when he's wrong.

    • @mahmudchowdhury7557
      @mahmudchowdhury7557 2 года назад +5

      Damn…that’s what you think? Watch it again.

    • @activeshooterlifestyle
      @activeshooterlifestyle 2 года назад +10

      @@mahmudchowdhury7557 that's what everybody thinks. Ish made an extremely logical, sound argument and Joe could do nothing but continue to try to move the field goal post and deflect.

  • @l.a.braide3063
    @l.a.braide3063 2 года назад +38

    This is perfect for my airport wait….can we get another Joe x Surf banger tho?!?!

    • @rrosen85
      @rrosen85 2 года назад +2

      There is another one on the Patreon

    • @MAGEVIZION1
      @MAGEVIZION1 2 года назад +1

      Man I'm not at the port but sirf needs to be a staple on the Pod shits got me Locked in‼

    • @mjp5425
      @mjp5425 2 года назад

      There is another one and that one is funnier

  • @8isgreatest
    @8isgreatest 2 года назад +5

    😂 the way ice looked when Joe spazzed at 2:27:58 got me 💀

  • @nazirfontaine9591
    @nazirfontaine9591 2 года назад +14

    This Episode is Legendary Lmaooooo. The four of them work good together 💯

  • @SmitDeft
    @SmitDeft 2 года назад +3

    Ish spanked Joe on this 🤣🤣😂😂😂😂😂... Great episode

  • @mememy2302
    @mememy2302 2 года назад +3

    That ending had me cracking the eff up 😂😂😂🤣 What was Ish taking?? He started shaking and shit 😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @kozmiclando
    @kozmiclando 2 года назад +3

    “Pray Fa All The Niggas That Want Black Kings Seen In The Proper Light” 😂 I Love This Point…& It’s Goin Ova Everybody Head

  • @SweetDaGawd
    @SweetDaGawd 2 года назад +5

    This is one of the best convo's they have had in a while.

  • @cheevatv6778
    @cheevatv6778 2 года назад +8

    This episode was amazing!!!
    Love the energy and truth 💜

  • @darrellanderson7690
    @darrellanderson7690 Год назад +2

    “When I think about it, if you insert Jay z, it strengthens my point” 😂😂😂 when he said “when I think about it” in this convo he gave them bs! Joe the man yo

  • @stackheads
    @stackheads 2 года назад +22

    What Joe said about P and Baby went over all their heads. And they're viewed that way because they are from the south Baby and P are much better business models than Jay Z but he's held at a different regard, that's what Joe means. And they both beat the labels so they're made to look bad which is back to joes previous point I when u don't succumb to industry standards you are victim to things that tarnish your legacy via the "machine"

    • @carpbeatch1
      @carpbeatch1 2 года назад +5

      Exactly - they were missing the point. He was talking about how much money they received, he’s talking about how they are regarded

    • @coreybarrett8449
      @coreybarrett8449 2 года назад +3

      Bingo 🎯

    • @clarkkent52
      @clarkkent52 2 года назад +3

      Joe is right...but at the same time we can't expect the enemy to tell your story right..it is their stage we want recognition on...thats too much..why should your opponent give you a fair shot?

    • @carpbeatch1
      @carpbeatch1 2 года назад

      @@clarkkent52 that’s true

    • @deondresims2830
      @deondresims2830 2 года назад +1

      So basically my understanding from reading the comments is both are right and just to provoke thought in myself, I wanna ask if you believe that because of Baby and P having tarnish on their careers early because of their success with their music deals,stunted what could have been for their business dealings down the line outside? And does the way they carry themselves at the time and baby till this day have nothing to play apart? I understand not giving up who you are but are the end of the day there’s a business attire and a certain way everyone around the world hold up to when it comes to certain rooms jay-z is being put in. On the business model part I partially agree with you cause in the end independent is always better but ish got me when he said 3 mil by myself or 30 split down the middle. Only really matters I guess in my opinion if you feel like your giving something up to fit in for the money versus feeling like this is the evolution of you and it’s the evolution you want to get where you wanna go. Thought?

  • @mahmudchowdhury7557
    @mahmudchowdhury7557 2 года назад +15

    Battle Rap is like Broadway, Rapping is like Hollywood

  • @Afrovii
    @Afrovii 2 года назад +7

    Ish was right but I can see Joe's point too - it really depends on how you view it. Joe is saying you should attain a level of credibility if you have shown that you can do good business, a la Master P. Ish is saying it doesn't matter how much good business you do, if you don't look and act a certain way, you cannot ascend to a certain level.

    • @MetaMan09
      @MetaMan09 2 года назад

      Which proves joes point, they will never be seen in the light they should be if they don’t conform for the white ppl at the top

  • @DaddyandMaddy
    @DaddyandMaddy 2 года назад +2

    Ish looks so happy 😁 when he says FULL CIRCLE he's a great soul

  • @jameyelprice5786
    @jameyelprice5786 Год назад +1

    I absolutely love this episode!!! This solidified the new crew, proved that Joe is wrong, and he doesn't have "yes men". I've been waiting for this in the podcast. Collectively, this is entertaining and enlightening.

  • @DDSTWO
    @DDSTWO 2 года назад +10

    Joe got me pissed and then dying laughing with his trolling ass. Best episode in a minute!

  • @clyneofthesouth
    @clyneofthesouth 2 года назад +10

    GOT DAMN THIS IS A GOOD ASS EP 😂 almost got me to pay for Patreon …. Almost baby. Almost

    • @JReece3000
      @JReece3000 2 года назад

      The problem is they drop the episodes a week later on RUclips. So all you need is some patience and you still get the same content at the end of the day. They not gon NOT drop something on YT cuz that’s just stopping another revenue stream. The Patreon exclusives don’t stay Patreon exclusives.

  • @s0smg
    @s0smg 2 года назад +3

    This my favorite episode so far ish and surf are saying pull yo self by the bootstraps
    Joe is saying y’all make the bootstraps y’all choose who gets to pull they self up

  • @sherylsouth95
    @sherylsouth95 2 года назад +2

    Ice is the best
    while Ish and Joe are screaming Ice is like”I will not be raising my blood pressure”😂😂😂🇯🇲

  • @austindavis3000
    @austindavis3000 2 года назад +3

    "I've done nothing but invested and making the bloods BIGGER" lmao protect Surf man

  • @dylaw9189
    @dylaw9189 2 года назад +5

    Tsu Surf 🙌🏻 Definitely in my top 3 in what he do!! Luv ✌🏼

    • @AliPo-ne3yf
      @AliPo-ne3yf 2 года назад +1

      TsuSurf Freestyle on I~95 was One of the Best Eva👑

  • @0103nelson
    @0103nelson 2 года назад +3

    THIS WAS GOLD!!!! I LOVED EVERY MINUTE OF IT! THE ENERGY AT THE END IS WHAT WE NEED

  • @Stringer_Bell_
    @Stringer_Bell_ 2 года назад +7

    This episode was fire 🔥 😂😭surf needs to be a regular guest 💯🏄🏿‍♂️

    • @AshlyMonet
      @AshlyMonet 2 года назад +1

      *guest ❤️

    • @Stringer_Bell_
      @Stringer_Bell_ 2 года назад

      @@AshlyMonet 👍🏾 not writing a paper professor it’s called a typo 😘lol

  • @dfrayo
    @dfrayo 2 года назад +2

    The culture needs Surf ...free da wave

  • @skoolz23
    @skoolz23 2 года назад +2

    When Tsu said "im really upset a lil bit" i almost fell out lmaooo

  • @korydavis8137
    @korydavis8137 2 года назад +4

    Joe understanding what makes good content is the catch. He baited Ish into that argument so it can be podcast gold lol. This was dope

  • @vanguardny
    @vanguardny 2 года назад +3

    This shit seem like the old WWF at the end 😂

  • @stackheads
    @stackheads 2 года назад +8

    I wanna know what gives them the idea that that's how Baby conducts himself in a business setting as opposed to a public persona when he's been making deals and running a record label independently since the 90s. I'll like to quote one of my fav lines from his earlier works "wasn't picking cotton for no redneck bitch!" 🤣

    • @ScottyKushTV
      @ScottyKushTV 2 года назад

      The argument was the end result. Jay a billi. Dre a billi. Birdman multi milli. Master p multi milli

    • @RAMONE1907
      @RAMONE1907 2 года назад

      Have you heard him speak? Lets not forget the tattoos and gang affiliations.

    • @val770
      @val770 2 года назад

      @@RAMONE1907 you’re judging a book by its cover, that’s terrible

  • @H2O-no2vg
    @H2O-no2vg 2 года назад +2

    Joe and Ish going at it got me in tears laughing bruh 😂

  • @babyboykeith
    @babyboykeith 10 месяцев назад +2

    2:28:38 Ish throwing the money on the table 😭😭