@@reezyvofficial which proves his whole point that our business savvy leaders aren’t Re guarded the way they should be, that’s why he kept sayin that they explanation proves his point
he was on the debate team in highschool, it makes sense. he’s used to debating without being biased, which is the whole point of debating. but most ppl argue instead of debate, ppl get too emotionally attached to their opinions, that they’re blinded by logic and all emotion.
@@consistentbuy8988 I'm sayin, they didn't record this pod this week or last week. It was released on Patreon awhile ago. Putting it on youtube was a good idea for this weekend, is what im sayin
@@easymoney9851 I understood his point. Ish ice and surf also misrepresented Joe’s point as Joe never stated is HOV viewed as an “equal” they added those words
Probably one of my favorite episodes ever, the point Joe was trying to make about black people not getting their just due is an important psychological barrier that needs addressing. "White ice is colder"
Yeah Joe is stuck on race. I think Tyler Perry highly regarded for his accomplishments. There are plenty of black people who are celebrated on a major level.
@@RAMONE1907 You miss the point. Even tho Tyler Perry has built a Hollywood level studio outside of Hollywood, which is unheard of, he’s still seen as the guy that plays Madea. And that’s ridiculous. The man is building an airport for cripes sake… and the first thing you address him as is the guy in a dress. 😐 Same goes for Jay-Z. His mother in law was just saying this a couple months ago. That the well to do white folks have talked about him to her as a former drug dealer rapper, even tho he’s waaaaaaaaaaaaaay past that now, and how they can’t see why Beyonce decided to deal with him.
@@RAMONE1907 if you look through his awards in his field, he has not been given his just due. The Emmys and Oscars had to give him honorary awards 20+ years into his career (his first award from any of these institutions) after shutting out his shows and movies for years. He built an empire and still couldn’t be recognized because the people judging, culturally, don’t understand why his movies could be considered good and artistically great.
Oh my God! 😮 This episode got SPIIIIICY on the back-end. Joe, you deseve some type of recognition for how truly dedicated to your view you will stand. This guy refuses to budge an inch. He walk up in the White House, sits in the presidents chair, and if he tells himself he’s the new president just like that, BELIEVE we got ourselves a new president. And nobody tellin this man otherwise. Without Joe being so dedicated to not budging an inch, we wouldn’t get these type of debated though. And sometimes it takes a little raw emotion to drive the point home, and make the listener fully understand
They were on the back of the lady london interview with this one. They were podding for over 5 hours straight and didn't skip a beat! Both were fire and did the content is amazing! Good views and opinions. The JBP is on a run! Lay down or stay down!
Facts tho ! Makes me glad to see when people give this platform the just do it deserves .. Joe and the team is on a crazy run and they really working working .. Anybody that grinds will respect it !!!
Surf is really one of the most underrated music artists in the game. Bro music is so fire 🔥 As a fan of him in battle rap too, he should have been on this run he's on, but I understood why he wasn't. This next opponent doesn't even realize how spooky Surf is about to be come Sunday. Shoutout to one of my favorite rappers out right now and my favorite battle rapper besides Ill Will 💯
Nah Cortez knows exactly what he gettin into. Now is what he has on Sunday enough to beat surf? Don’t know. Is surf gonna choke? That’s a valid question too…
@Vado Dacruz stop asking if that man gone choke until it happens and it hasn't happened in his past 3 battles. At some point folks gotta stop bringing that up 🤷🏿♂️ Cor cool but it's nothing he does better than Surf. Period!
@@qindatrap8098 i would love if that happens.... cor is surf elder if cor go hard he mite can end surf ...if cor get super personal he might can win...
JBP BOYS! - watch Ish @ 2:28:35 vigorously getting out of his chair while pushing the mic away .. all while saying, "Let's bet money on it! How much money you got?! -- That was hilarious at least 6 times over again. Best episode in my opinion !
Yes two things can be right, but Joe is just wrong. He’s trying to spin it into “this is what I’m really asking” all the time when somebody answers his question, and the majority doesn’t side with his view point. This nigga really said take money out of the equation to try and prove his point, then threw money back in to try and say they were wrong 🤣. I’m never listening to the man who said doubling down on a $100 bet means I owe you $300 if I lose.
I believe in history repeating itself and im guntitles all day..Surf gonna fuck around and take Cortez lite like he did 40 bars lol.Watch.I hope not but im nervous about this Sunday for him.Cortez is still a legend and was smoking shit before Surf was Surf
The old mal and rory clips were definitely funnier but this the 2nd episode post them I've listened in entirety (the bdk krs verzus was 1st) because I love battle rap lol
It’s really simple: ish is describing things as they are. Joe is describing things as they should be. If I bring billions to the table, who cares if I have a red star on my head or a grill? I’ve demonstrated my value. This is what Kanye was also ranting about. I’m surprised Joe didn’t bring Kanye & Nike’s history as an example to illustrate his point. Ish is right though: You can’t sit at that table if you’re perceived a certain way. Using Jay Z as an example was checkmate.
You just explained why Ish was wrong though... Ish saying that you can't show up to a meeting with red star tattoos and a grill but those things are the only reason you got the meeting in the first place... Which goes back to Joe's point about the industry being selective about who they put backing behind... They are actively looking for dummy's... Which is why they put backing behind drill rappers... They aren't the only rappers that generate dollars BUT they generate dollars AND they aren't a threat to the establishment... ISH is talking as if the industry doesn't have options... That's what Joe and Ice are eluding to... The industry doesn't have to ride the drill wave if they don't want to...
Nah this true but not true this doesn’t apply to any other race. Because white people, Chinese, Indian(middle eastern) pull up looking to multiple tables looking exactly how the white American culture perceived them n cartoons or jokes or there fears yet they do the deal. It’s only the black culture that’s judged still on the color of they skin or how they dress or act naturally to define their actions, business, future.
This is a classic episode. I’ve had my doubts but joe a God at changing the main point of an argument by bringing similar but different correct point to a different unasked question.
Joe with Rory and Mal at the peak of their friendship is the greatest pod of all time. But ish and ice is definitely better than the more recent Rory & Mal episodes.
Nah. Whenever I watch one I realize how much I want to see them with the other. Rory and Mal have a more light hearted comedic pod and The JBP is more of a informative debate show with laughs sprinkled in, and I often feel like they need each other to balance the vibe. I honestly hope they eventually peace it up so we can get a collab with everyone together.
This man should not be in prison. He is good at communicating with people and seems to have a good head on his shoulder just wrong company. Someone of his caliber should not be getting caught up and I’m saying that with all the respect for his potential
Joe is a master at pulling n evoking emotions out of people to express their points. Forces them to expound and articulate their perspective. Now whether he believes his own points is a different question, makes for interesting podding
Facts. Conversations with polarized points are way more interesting than conversations where people agree. I don't care if it is intentional or accidental, what Joe does works.
@@cherellewilliams458 Einstein was only a mad scientist to his peers at the time pushing know intellectual boundaries will do that joe is an illogical unfaltering psycho at points that’s different
Since the podcast started I’ve been waiting for surf to be on here hopefully he does a couple more with you guys & starts his own podcast on your network
I love this. Keep going, JBP. Y’all let me know who or what y’all get into on Patreon, and its like this informative and entertaining, I’ll get Patreon for this content. Blessings, y’all. 💯
@@mahmudchowdhury7557 that's what everybody thinks. Ish made an extremely logical, sound argument and Joe could do nothing but continue to try to move the field goal post and deflect.
“When I think about it, if you insert Jay z, it strengthens my point” 😂😂😂 when he said “when I think about it” in this convo he gave them bs! Joe the man yo
What Joe said about P and Baby went over all their heads. And they're viewed that way because they are from the south Baby and P are much better business models than Jay Z but he's held at a different regard, that's what Joe means. And they both beat the labels so they're made to look bad which is back to joes previous point I when u don't succumb to industry standards you are victim to things that tarnish your legacy via the "machine"
Joe is right...but at the same time we can't expect the enemy to tell your story right..it is their stage we want recognition on...thats too much..why should your opponent give you a fair shot?
So basically my understanding from reading the comments is both are right and just to provoke thought in myself, I wanna ask if you believe that because of Baby and P having tarnish on their careers early because of their success with their music deals,stunted what could have been for their business dealings down the line outside? And does the way they carry themselves at the time and baby till this day have nothing to play apart? I understand not giving up who you are but are the end of the day there’s a business attire and a certain way everyone around the world hold up to when it comes to certain rooms jay-z is being put in. On the business model part I partially agree with you cause in the end independent is always better but ish got me when he said 3 mil by myself or 30 split down the middle. Only really matters I guess in my opinion if you feel like your giving something up to fit in for the money versus feeling like this is the evolution of you and it’s the evolution you want to get where you wanna go. Thought?
Ish was right but I can see Joe's point too - it really depends on how you view it. Joe is saying you should attain a level of credibility if you have shown that you can do good business, a la Master P. Ish is saying it doesn't matter how much good business you do, if you don't look and act a certain way, you cannot ascend to a certain level.
I absolutely love this episode!!! This solidified the new crew, proved that Joe is wrong, and he doesn't have "yes men". I've been waiting for this in the podcast. Collectively, this is entertaining and enlightening.
The problem is they drop the episodes a week later on RUclips. So all you need is some patience and you still get the same content at the end of the day. They not gon NOT drop something on YT cuz that’s just stopping another revenue stream. The Patreon exclusives don’t stay Patreon exclusives.
This my favorite episode so far ish and surf are saying pull yo self by the bootstraps Joe is saying y’all make the bootstraps y’all choose who gets to pull they self up
I wanna know what gives them the idea that that's how Baby conducts himself in a business setting as opposed to a public persona when he's been making deals and running a record label independently since the 90s. I'll like to quote one of my fav lines from his earlier works "wasn't picking cotton for no redneck bitch!" 🤣
Joe's Pivot in a argument is crazy every time he gets proved wrong his point was something else LMAO
Ish catch it every time lol
Lol ODIEEEEE!!! Goalpost is forever moving! He like the wack-a-mole at the carnival
@@justinhoward2132 facts! Uncle Ish hold him to the fire every time! Naw bucko you ain’t say that
@@dadestar5 FACTS
At this point it’s a skill 😂
“I gave you a billion dollars, I look up 7 years later, and your a BIGGER BLOOD!”….Surf funny as hell!!!🤣🤣🤣🤣
LOL, that part was cracking me up too.
Bruuuuuuuh 😂😂😂 I laughed for 10 minutes offa that. Best JBP ever IMO.
Bruh I'm still laughing at this part LMAO
Dawg I LOST it. I need Surf as a regular on the show
Truth in humor 😮💨
"You the only nigga in here agreeing with ya fucking self" 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Ish is the kryptonite to Joe every time
Phenomenal episode. Surf 100% needs his own podcast. He’s ultra interesting to listen to.
He got one . Twitter Space . Lol
Just go on his Spaces he talks all day
Talked all that shit bout Math Hoffa only to try & be Math
@@ogbobbyt2159 math can’t get a battle so he had no choice to cross over 😂
Indeed
Joes a genius! he doesn’t believe what he argues but knows how to make a pod entertaining, the man is smart👏🏾
Naa he believes what he’s saying, the thing is joes not entirely wrong
Completely agree "DID YOU SAY YEAHHHHH" 😂😂😂😂 the end was crazy
You just explained a troll 😂
I’m from the future. Here’s y’all heads up. Y’all don’t know perspectives🙋🏽♂️
BF Tee Why?
When surf said after 7 years all you did was become a BIGGER BLOOD 😂😂it was over. and it was all love at the end yo I love this pod man
Yeah that one point he made got me to understand they angle but I really do agree with Joe 💯💯💯
@@MetaMan09 Joe was wrong. You don’t reach a certain level unless you’re perceived a certain way.
@@reezyvofficial which proves his whole point that our business savvy leaders aren’t Re guarded the way they should be, that’s why he kept sayin that they explanation proves his point
@@MetaMan09these Niggas still don’t understand lmao it’s crazy
I see why he put this out. This too much fire to keep locked up.
U gotta watch Surf 2nd episode that shit is hilarious for like 90 minutes straight
Ish always has intelligent points. Its good to have that brother on this show as he rarely makes his points based on his feelings.
He out debates Joe on a very consistent basis and it's frustrating to watch Joe refuse to admit he's wrong.
I like hearing him and ice points fr🙏
he was on the debate team in highschool, it makes sense. he’s used to debating without being biased, which is the whole point of debating. but most ppl argue instead of debate, ppl get too emotionally attached to their opinions, that they’re blinded by logic and all emotion.
@@dimendkai as a capricorn, we think black and white , what’s right and wrong
This was the best pod ever lmao. The ending was HILARIOUS Joe is a PROFESSIONAL
Yesssss
This is the greatest argument that’s ever happened on this episode. Ish’s walk off is legendary 😂😂😂🙌🏿🙌🏿
Couldn’t wait for this to drop. Surf can be added for the spice he brings to the table
Now I actually get why Joe didn't introduce him earlier to the pod. Surf knows how to cut through all his bs :D
Surf is perfect for this Podcast.
Nah, the dynamic they already have is perfect. Surf need his own Pod.
Parks does a good job at staying quiet during the touchy topics 😂😂😂😂😂
Cause he knows we dont wanna hear from his ass lmao
He was trying to think of a way to agree with Joe but couldn’t come up with anything.
@@vmac3682 this narrative is so false lol y’all still bitter
@@LilPaycheck lol it was a joke Omarito. Have a sense of humour my boy. You won’t win a prize monitoring you tube comments to defend the guys.
@@vmac3682 nigga you act as if there isn’t a running narrative and as if it was so obvious you was joking
Dropping this right before the battle Sunday is huge indirect promo. Whether Joe's or Surf's idea, this is pretty smart.
Word it’s perfect
Its not indirect at all lmao
Its promo lmaoo
@@consistentbuy8988 I'm sayin, they didn't record this pod this week or last week. It was released on Patreon awhile ago.
Putting it on youtube was a good idea for this weekend, is what im sayin
@@KhaosMatador yeah it was good promo he might have known surfs schedule? So maybe he could have kept it until surfs shit came up...
Joe you're wrong, just accept that. Ish & Surf are totally correct. They cracked your muffin my man, & it's okay it happens.
Right lol
They definitely cooked Joe!
He's wrong because he just don't explain his points the best. But what I think he was trying to explain he would've been right.
Joe really be trolling his friends into near fist fights for our entertainment
See he really is a great guy
He’s not trolling Joe is making a great point
And it's appreciated otc 😅🤧
He wasn't trolling, he just realized he was dead wrong and tried to change it up
@@easymoney9851 I understood his point. Ish ice and surf also misrepresented Joe’s point as Joe never stated is HOV viewed as an “equal” they added those words
There needs to be a petition for Tsu to stay on this show forever😂🔥
He’s a great contribution
😂😂😂😂 the intensity and how mad they are is hilarious!!! 🤣🤣🤣 Joe stop raising Ish’s blood pressure!
🤣🤣🤣 I've never seen Ish like this
@@tabithajones2471 big bruh was in rare form 😂😂
He does that shit on purpose 🤣🤣🤣.
Probably one of my favorite episodes ever, the point Joe was trying to make about black people not getting their just due is an important psychological barrier that needs addressing. "White ice is colder"
Yeah Joe is stuck on race. I think Tyler Perry highly regarded for his accomplishments. There are plenty of black people who are celebrated on a major level.
@@RAMONE1907 You miss the point. Even tho Tyler Perry has built a Hollywood level studio outside of Hollywood, which is unheard of, he’s still seen as the guy that plays Madea. And that’s ridiculous. The man is building an airport for cripes sake… and the first thing you address him as is the guy in a dress. 😐 Same goes for Jay-Z. His mother in law was just saying this a couple months ago. That the well to do white folks have talked about him to her as a former drug dealer rapper, even tho he’s waaaaaaaaaaaaaay past that now, and how they can’t see why Beyonce decided to deal with him.
@@farrellcityking1 That's how you and Joe see him. Also it's not ridiculous to be recognized for your most famous work.
@@RAMONE1907 if you look through his awards in his field, he has not been given his just due. The Emmys and Oscars had to give him honorary awards 20+ years into his career (his first award from any of these institutions) after shutting out his shows and movies for years. He built an empire and still couldn’t be recognized because the people judging, culturally, don’t understand why his movies could be considered good and artistically great.
@@RAMONE1907 No, Tyler Perry is highly regarded. Shit Harvey Weinstein was regarded higher than that man even though he was a foul nigga.
“Ohh you’re not understanding my argument”
This man will drive someone crazy lmaoo
Oh my God! 😮 This episode got SPIIIIICY on the back-end. Joe, you deseve some type of recognition for how truly dedicated to your view you will stand. This guy refuses to budge an inch. He walk up in the White House, sits in the presidents chair, and if he tells himself he’s the new president just like that, BELIEVE we got ourselves a new president. And nobody tellin this man otherwise.
Without Joe being so dedicated to not budging an inch, we wouldn’t get these type of debated though. And sometimes it takes a little raw emotion to drive the point home, and make the listener fully understand
They were on the back of the lady london interview with this one. They were podding for over 5 hours straight and didn't skip a beat! Both were fire and did the content is amazing! Good views and opinions. The JBP is on a run! Lay down or stay down!
Hmmmmmm I didn’t even Notice
WORD !!!
I got the patreon account if y’all want in lol
@@Hendrixxx9427 link
💯
Joe can never be wrong... shifts angles to suit his view EVERYTIME
every dam time but I love it
Yeah, but this one got me this time, he needed to acknowledge that he was clearly in the wrong. Ish killed his ass.
he really might be a republican lmaooo
You need a person to disagree and have a different opinion it help move the conversation hate joe had to die on the hill tho 😳😬😂
every single time man haha
Y’all been dropping fire I’m happy for y’all let’s goooooo
All fax no printer!
Word and floooding the block lol. I done forgot when we drop now, It's like every other day
On that ass like grass for real
Facts tho ! Makes me glad to see when people give this platform the just do it deserves .. Joe and the team is on a crazy run and they really working working .. Anybody that grinds will respect it !!!
Agreeeeed make surf a frequent guest
This was pure gold! Shout to Surf for his contribution.. keep educating and inspiring the culture. 🔥
Joe I'm day one.
This is up there!!! Y'all killed it
Surf and ish went crazy
This has to be top 5 when it comes to conversations in JBP history 💯
Surf is really one of the most underrated music artists in the game. Bro music is so fire 🔥 As a fan of him in battle rap too, he should have been on this run he's on, but I understood why he wasn't. This next opponent doesn't even realize how spooky Surf is about to be come Sunday. Shoutout to one of my favorite rappers out right now and my favorite battle rapper besides Ill Will 💯
Nah Cortez knows exactly what he gettin into. Now is what he has on Sunday enough to beat surf? Don’t know. Is surf gonna choke? That’s a valid question too…
@Vado Dacruz stop asking if that man gone choke until it happens and it hasn't happened in his past 3 battles. At some point folks gotta stop bringing that up 🤷🏿♂️ Cor cool but it's nothing he does better than Surf. Period!
Its likey surf gonna choke in this battle he's not gonna take cortez serious..
Surf goin 30 cor
@@qindatrap8098 i would love if that happens.... cor is surf elder if cor go hard he mite can end surf ...if cor get super personal he might can win...
JBP BOYS! - watch Ish @ 2:28:35 vigorously getting out of his chair while pushing the mic away .. all while saying, "Let's bet money on it! How much money you got?! -- That was hilarious at least 6 times over again. Best episode in my opinion !
Such a captivating episode, Joe is outstanding at playing devils advocate
semantics
Him saying Websters dictionary is wrong is playing devils advocate too huh
Should do down in the HOF as the best to do it 🤧
“You talk different! And, that’s why them n*ggas be mad at you.”💀
Two things can be right at the same time… both Joe and Ish are right, just on different levels.
Exactly. Joe saying how shit should be, Ish is saying how it is.
@@godbodywoowoo 💯
Yes two things can be right, but Joe is just wrong. He’s trying to spin it into “this is what I’m really asking” all the time when somebody answers his question, and the majority doesn’t side with his view point.
This nigga really said take money out of the equation to try and prove his point, then threw money back in to try and say they were wrong 🤣. I’m never listening to the man who said doubling down on a $100 bet means I owe you $300 if I lose.
i love how joe will not give in even tho he's wrong lmaoooo ish cracked a muffin on this one
Ish should be locked up
Bro seriously, that shit was pissin me off lol
"Ohhh you thought I was sayin...." makes me laugh everything Ish corners him
Surf's Mexican theme approach during his face-off with Cortez was priceless.
That toy chihuahua barking at Cortez had me dying. lol
Cortez is not Mexican tho but shit was funny
Cortez does strike as a big gutted rican hanging out in front of the bodega drinking a tall bud in a can while playing dominoes.
I believe in history repeating itself and im guntitles all day..Surf gonna fuck around and take Cortez lite like he did 40 bars lol.Watch.I hope not but im nervous about this Sunday for him.Cortez is still a legend and was smoking shit before Surf was Surf
"Chicoooo" 🤣
@@muhfkajones I died
This might be the best episode in JBP history
that’s a stretch. There are some legendary episodes over the years. This one is very good tho and the conversation was very insightful
You can't be serious
Whats the top 5?
Best episode was when they broke down the Kanye subs on sicko mode
The old mal and rory clips were definitely funnier but this the 2nd episode post them I've listened in entirety (the bdk krs verzus was 1st) because I love battle rap lol
Free Surf🙏🏾👽
Free The Wave
Nah.
This the best episode in “I’ll name this podcast later” history!!!!!!
That beat switch tho😭
This might be the most entertaining debate I've seen on RUclips in a long time 😂 lmao. Keep it coming haha
Conversations ft Tsu Surf - one of the Joe’s greatest hits.
But that’s surf song
😂😂😂😂
🙌🏾🙌🏾this what I been waiting for! “Bullets in me forever Johnny! Some rounds I still can’t get out”😤
Rounds not bullets my guy
@@wetmoney85 this is a Tsu Surf quote
Ish calling Joe out on not owing Mal and Rory respect is CRAZY. I love this dude, man
Needed this episode. Surf would be an amazing addition on the show.
Surf is the Ric Flair of battle rap. He can talk with the best of them and backs it up on that stage when it’s go time
Except wrestling is scripted
@@sityxx1829 and battle rap has groups and people who work in concert together even tho they are battling.
Not really...yea his last 3 were good but he chokes more than he wins.
@@marcusaurelius6873 🧢 . Y’all gotta stop counting debatable battles as clear losses. This narrative that he loses a lot is a terrible take
@@marcusaurelius6873 exactly he's on some Cassidy shit won 1 or 2 battles recently and now supposed to forget the 500 choke ups.
The levels of intellect I see is very magnetic. Keep going, there is something in these podcasts that are sparking something.
I LOVE this chemistry. Amazing show.
this the best talk i seen/heard in a VERY long time.. and how intense it got was cleansing
It’s really simple: ish is describing things as they are. Joe is describing things as they should be. If I bring billions to the table, who cares if I have a red star on my head or a grill? I’ve demonstrated my value. This is what Kanye was also ranting about. I’m surprised Joe didn’t bring Kanye & Nike’s history as an example to illustrate his point. Ish is right though: You can’t sit at that table if you’re perceived a certain way. Using Jay Z as an example was checkmate.
Message 💎
True, but when you walked through the doors by someone more capable than you, it’s different....
You just explained why Ish was wrong though... Ish saying that you can't show up to a meeting with red star tattoos and a grill but those things are the only reason you got the meeting in the first place... Which goes back to Joe's point about the industry being selective about who they put backing behind... They are actively looking for dummy's... Which is why they put backing behind drill rappers... They aren't the only rappers that generate dollars BUT they generate dollars AND they aren't a threat to the establishment... ISH is talking as if the industry doesn't have options... That's what Joe and Ice are eluding to... The industry doesn't have to ride the drill wave if they don't want to...
Nah this true but not true this doesn’t apply to any other race. Because white people, Chinese, Indian(middle eastern) pull up looking to multiple tables looking exactly how the white American culture perceived them n cartoons or jokes or there fears yet they do the deal. It’s only the black culture that’s judged still on the color of they skin or how they dress or act naturally to define their actions, business, future.
@@theblackmanwholaughs6670 facts
Aye Yo , Surf Is A Less Abrasive Version Of Joe .. The Way He Breaks Down His Thought Is Masterful .. I'd Love Ta Hear This Man Speak Everyday
I been waiting for this one; and the ransom one too. Thanks JBP
This the one that people been waiting for🔥🔥🔥🔥
Fax
Parks sat this one out for the team like a true champ🙌🏿
Best podcast in the worlddddd Craig
Like a true champ? Like a true simp
💯
@@A1beams he's an engineer you goof.
@@frankystrings what’s that got to do with being Joe’s simp?
@@A1beams he's not paid to make opinions. He's there to push buttons.
I have been rocking with the Joe Budden podcast for years. This is one of the best ever! Everyone is hot, yelling and talking shit! Phenomenal!
This was 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 ish had a hearty breakfast this morning I’m not gon like the battle rap talk was 😴 but the topics COOKED 👏🏾
‘We pull up definitions of words and u say it’s wrong ‘😭😭💀
I’ve seen enough clips of this episode to know the full will be classic
Faxxx
I'm glad I didn't see any clips. This all new to me lol
@@ARandomDog_ please
where do you see clips
@@mariahasmr9184 everywhere
This pod doesn't have enough views... This is a think tank master class.
Big up to Ish, joe... Respect ✊🏾💪🏾
Maaaaaan this episode was riveting 🔥🔥🔥This was one of them. Excellent pod fellas!!
It never ending with the good content,the Joe budden podcast is on fire 🔥
"Now that you mention that, it strengthens my argument."
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Joe is hilarious.
It really did tho 💯💯💯
For musicians this is without a doubt the best and most valuable JBP episode of all time
Facts
10000%. Facts
Better than the Chance episode?
You're just a bigger blood @2:33:50 is CRAZY!! Surf built for poddin
This is a classic episode. I’ve had my doubts but joe a God at changing the main point of an argument by bringing similar but different correct point to a different unasked question.
Can we admit that the pod is better now w/Ice and Ish than it was with Rory and Mal?
💯💯💯
Still these comments. 🤦♀️
Two different energies! Both good in their own way
Joe with Rory and Mal at the peak of their friendship is the greatest pod of all time. But ish and ice is definitely better than the more recent Rory & Mal episodes.
Nah. Whenever I watch one I realize how much I want to see them with the other. Rory and Mal have a more light hearted comedic pod and The JBP is more of a informative debate show with laughs sprinkled in, and I often feel like they need each other to balance the vibe. I honestly hope they eventually peace it up so we can get a collab with everyone together.
This pod is hilarious...I got a glimpse of what me and my day ones look like when we get into heated arguments...
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Been waiting on this drop for a month, ish standing up throwing money on the floor did it for me 😂
This man should not be in prison. He is good at communicating with people and seems to have a good head on his shoulder just wrong company. Someone of his caliber should not be getting caught up and I’m saying that with all the respect for his potential
Joe is a master at pulling n evoking emotions out of people to express their points. Forces them to expound and articulate their perspective. Now whether he believes his own points is a different question, makes for interesting podding
Facts. Conversations with polarized points are way more interesting than conversations where people agree. I don't care if it is intentional or accidental, what Joe does works.
Lmaoo now is see why him n taxstone went off
*This came right on time. Makes my decision to wait for 2-3 hours at Lexus instead of getting the loaner much better.*
Lexus ? Yikes
What Lexus you got bro? I just got a 22 NX I’m loving it so far
@@reezorr4869 Lexus is dope broke ninja.
Light flex..smh
CAPPER‼️ HE’S A CAPPER ‼️
I might’ve misjudged you Joe, you’re actually very smart. It’s all love because this was very genuine.
I’m curious…. What made u think he wasn’t smart 😂
Joe is intelligent he’s also insane
@@postsniper-7532 Einstein was one of the maddest people to exist. Joes cool.
@@cherellewilliams458 Einstein was only a mad scientist to his peers at the time pushing know intellectual boundaries will do that joe is an illogical unfaltering psycho at points that’s different
@@postsniper-7532 true I see what you’re saying
Damn Joe you the MVP for this one
Since the podcast started I’ve been waiting for surf to be on here hopefully he does a couple more with you guys & starts his own podcast on your network
I love this. Keep going, JBP. Y’all let me know who or what y’all get into on Patreon, and its like this informative and entertaining, I’ll get Patreon for this content. Blessings, y’all. 💯
Joe at the end of the episode is so proud of what he made them do
They delve into other topics, certain guests can only be seen on Patreon and it’s a lot of extra content on Patreon def worth it to me
Joe got smoked in that debate with
Ish. He can never admit when he's wrong.
Damn…that’s what you think? Watch it again.
@@mahmudchowdhury7557 that's what everybody thinks. Ish made an extremely logical, sound argument and Joe could do nothing but continue to try to move the field goal post and deflect.
This is perfect for my airport wait….can we get another Joe x Surf banger tho?!?!
There is another one on the Patreon
Man I'm not at the port but sirf needs to be a staple on the Pod shits got me Locked in‼
There is another one and that one is funnier
😂 the way ice looked when Joe spazzed at 2:27:58 got me 💀
This Episode is Legendary Lmaooooo. The four of them work good together 💯
Ish spanked Joe on this 🤣🤣😂😂😂😂😂... Great episode
That ending had me cracking the eff up 😂😂😂🤣 What was Ish taking?? He started shaking and shit 😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣
That Red Bull
“Pray Fa All The Niggas That Want Black Kings Seen In The Proper Light” 😂 I Love This Point…& It’s Goin Ova Everybody Head
This is one of the best convo's they have had in a while.
This episode was amazing!!!
Love the energy and truth 💜
“When I think about it, if you insert Jay z, it strengthens my point” 😂😂😂 when he said “when I think about it” in this convo he gave them bs! Joe the man yo
What Joe said about P and Baby went over all their heads. And they're viewed that way because they are from the south Baby and P are much better business models than Jay Z but he's held at a different regard, that's what Joe means. And they both beat the labels so they're made to look bad which is back to joes previous point I when u don't succumb to industry standards you are victim to things that tarnish your legacy via the "machine"
Exactly - they were missing the point. He was talking about how much money they received, he’s talking about how they are regarded
Bingo 🎯
Joe is right...but at the same time we can't expect the enemy to tell your story right..it is their stage we want recognition on...thats too much..why should your opponent give you a fair shot?
@@clarkkent52 that’s true
So basically my understanding from reading the comments is both are right and just to provoke thought in myself, I wanna ask if you believe that because of Baby and P having tarnish on their careers early because of their success with their music deals,stunted what could have been for their business dealings down the line outside? And does the way they carry themselves at the time and baby till this day have nothing to play apart? I understand not giving up who you are but are the end of the day there’s a business attire and a certain way everyone around the world hold up to when it comes to certain rooms jay-z is being put in. On the business model part I partially agree with you cause in the end independent is always better but ish got me when he said 3 mil by myself or 30 split down the middle. Only really matters I guess in my opinion if you feel like your giving something up to fit in for the money versus feeling like this is the evolution of you and it’s the evolution you want to get where you wanna go. Thought?
Battle Rap is like Broadway, Rapping is like Hollywood
Right
I like this analogy
🔥🔥🔥🔥 best analogy
Ish was right but I can see Joe's point too - it really depends on how you view it. Joe is saying you should attain a level of credibility if you have shown that you can do good business, a la Master P. Ish is saying it doesn't matter how much good business you do, if you don't look and act a certain way, you cannot ascend to a certain level.
Which proves joes point, they will never be seen in the light they should be if they don’t conform for the white ppl at the top
Ish looks so happy 😁 when he says FULL CIRCLE he's a great soul
I absolutely love this episode!!! This solidified the new crew, proved that Joe is wrong, and he doesn't have "yes men". I've been waiting for this in the podcast. Collectively, this is entertaining and enlightening.
Joe got me pissed and then dying laughing with his trolling ass. Best episode in a minute!
GOT DAMN THIS IS A GOOD ASS EP 😂 almost got me to pay for Patreon …. Almost baby. Almost
The problem is they drop the episodes a week later on RUclips. So all you need is some patience and you still get the same content at the end of the day. They not gon NOT drop something on YT cuz that’s just stopping another revenue stream. The Patreon exclusives don’t stay Patreon exclusives.
This my favorite episode so far ish and surf are saying pull yo self by the bootstraps
Joe is saying y’all make the bootstraps y’all choose who gets to pull they self up
Ice is the best
while Ish and Joe are screaming Ice is like”I will not be raising my blood pressure”😂😂😂🇯🇲
"I've done nothing but invested and making the bloods BIGGER" lmao protect Surf man
Tsu Surf 🙌🏻 Definitely in my top 3 in what he do!! Luv ✌🏼
TsuSurf Freestyle on I~95 was One of the Best Eva👑
THIS WAS GOLD!!!! I LOVED EVERY MINUTE OF IT! THE ENERGY AT THE END IS WHAT WE NEED
This episode was fire 🔥 😂😭surf needs to be a regular guest 💯🏄🏿♂️
*guest ❤️
@@AshlyMonet 👍🏾 not writing a paper professor it’s called a typo 😘lol
The culture needs Surf ...free da wave
When Tsu said "im really upset a lil bit" i almost fell out lmaooo
Joe understanding what makes good content is the catch. He baited Ish into that argument so it can be podcast gold lol. This was dope
This shit seem like the old WWF at the end 😂
I wanna know what gives them the idea that that's how Baby conducts himself in a business setting as opposed to a public persona when he's been making deals and running a record label independently since the 90s. I'll like to quote one of my fav lines from his earlier works "wasn't picking cotton for no redneck bitch!" 🤣
The argument was the end result. Jay a billi. Dre a billi. Birdman multi milli. Master p multi milli
Have you heard him speak? Lets not forget the tattoos and gang affiliations.
@@RAMONE1907 you’re judging a book by its cover, that’s terrible
Joe and Ish going at it got me in tears laughing bruh 😂
2:28:38 Ish throwing the money on the table 😭😭