2nd ep by Ohio's Necros - 1981 -- songs: IQ 32, Youth Camp, Peer Pressure, Race Riot, Wargame, I Hate My School, Past Comes Back to Haunt Me, Reject, Public High School
When they played in Gainesville FL their van broke down and they stayed at my house for a couple of nights. We screen printed every bit of clothing we had with Necros graphics, ha. Their roadie Brian Mank skated, so we were instant friends. Good times!
We were there straight from the Ch 3 show in Daytona or somewhere. 1982 maybe. Bouncing superballs all over the place. I’m glad to hear this again because I thought it sucked 40 years ago and I was right. I could write an album better than this in one day. - Joey Coma
I.Q. 32 0:00 Youth Camp 0:23 Peer Pressure 1:47 Race Riot 3:07 Wargame 4:17 I Hate My School 4:51 Past Comes Back To Haunt Me 5:59 Reject 6:45 Public High School 8:16
It was The Necros that really started the 1980s Toledo punk scene (yes, Maumee is a Toledo suburb). We would all hang out downtown at Portside dressed all in black like zombies. Barry and Todd would come around occasionally to the various warehouse punk shows. This was long before punk broke into mainstream and we were an absolute tiny group of misfits from all over Toledo, Detroit and the suburbs. The song Reject was an honest description of us back then. Punk rock kind of belonged to us, not NYC, California or the UK. Starting as far back as the Johnny and the Hurricanes, The Stooges, etc, our music output was always raw, faster and more aggressive. It was the mechanized blue collar culture of the auto industry adapted to sound. Great times and people never to be repeated!
The first time I saw them was in Detroit at Bookies... when they warmed up for The Misfits. I LOVED them... and would see them at EVERY subsequent show in Detroit (Freezer...) and in Ann Arbor.
I remember when they played at an outdoor show in E. Lansing, Mi, 1981.. They had a couple groupies in tow with metal box/purses chained to their wrists that contained their heroin and hypodermic needles and junk. I was kinda in awe.
And, btw, only discovered these guys recently in my mid-50's. LOVE IT! Wish I'd known about these guys back in the day, but no Google and no internet back then :(
Just because they're more fast and more traditional aggressive hardcore, doesn't mean they're better. That makes them way more one dimensional in a way, listen to the Dead Kennedys Plastic Surgery Distasters. Each song is a masterpiece, they're music is way more dynamic and musical.
One of the true greats of the Midwest HC scene, and there were a LOT of great bands ie Negative Approach, Meatmen, The Fix, Die Kreuzen, and many more. I just got an old live recording of Necros recently, with no identifying marks other than Necros live. I'm hoping to be able to digitize and send it to someone who'd know what the show particulars are (venue, date, etc.). Anyway, great post! Thanks :D
True, but 2000's (especially the early 2000's) hardcore came pretty close. There was a huge revival of this sound in the 2000's with many great bands and labels like Bones Brigade, Total Fury, Amdi-Petersons Arme, Cut The Shit, Knife Fight, 86' Mentality, Life Trap, Cardiac Arrest, The Snobs, Lifes Halt, What Happens Next, Tear It Up, DS13, Nine Shocks Terror, Deranged Records, Dead Alive Records, No Way Records, Grave Mistake Records, My War Records, Mankind, Indecision, Youngblood etc.. Check them out brother.
Saw them at the On Broadway on the Conquest For Death tour; all their songs sounded way better live, so powerful. All the new tunes were laid in the dust by the live versions.
Cool that every song is about high school. Reminds me especially of my jr high school where race riots were very common. This was in Southern California where there is and was tons of Mexican gangs and also the bloods, crips and other sects. It didn’t have to do with being racist, so much as defending yourself and your friends and the attackers were always those of a different race. In time, in certain areas, things would change and you would see the onset of racist skinheads which introduced racism in the punk scenes. Although you wouldn’t consider necros a racist band, nor would you minor threat or black flag (unless of course you took the song “white pride” the wrong way), the skinheads could relate to the lyrics and didn’t mind stomping you if you had long hair, save for the actual punks that had long hair like Henry Rollins for a time and Keith morris. As time passed it became a confusing thing for the youth, the gangs still prevalent, even more so than before and the punks not sure if retaliation made them racist, just knowing that when they did win a fight or a brawl that I felt good and with a young impressionable mind I can see it, and did see it have an effect on the way youth thought about skin color, just most people seem to be in denial about this. Necros nails it on the head.
Unfortunately, back in the early 80s, punk in S. California was very tribal. Being from Hollywood, we were spoiled, and we had the mentality that our bands were the best and everything else was shit and 2nd rate. A few bands like Minor Threat and all the UK bands were fully embraced but little else. Bands like SS decontrol, the Effigies, Kraut... would play here but never got the love. It's a shame that the majority of punks from our area were like this. Even the Misfits weren't accepted here as punk. We missed out on a lot of good bands like Necros because of our close-minded thinking and tribal attitude.
These guys used to come to our shows in Jackson Michigan and party with my band the Scabz. They asked us to go open for them in new York, but Dave and I hastily decided to not do that... And WHAT the fuck were we thinking, eh David? These cats from Ohio.. Yep. Did the singer have a bad hand or was that someone else's singer.... Shit I'll never know!
John Nihil nah you’re misinterpreting the lyrics. Barry is dissing racists and homophobes. Maybe they got old and became Trump supporters later but I was there back then and still have this 7” Fvck Racism
@@jameswatt4694 How is this satire on any level? Never once does he insult them. The lyrics read like a white supremacist recruitment pamphlet written by a fat high schooler who never got laid.
That’s the beauty of music as an art form. I hear satire in “youth camp” and “race riot”. Maybe others don’t. Maybe that’s not what the artist intended and maybe it is. Your world is defined by how you see it.
@@dwaw13 It's not satire - they're pointing out real issues regarding race / racism / racial prejudice in America...this was 1980, and damn do the lyrics of Race Riot really hit home in the current social climate.
Just realized thisEP was produced by Ian MacKaye - Minor Threat wrote / sang "Guilty of Being White.." now THERE is a song that wouldn't go over well today. MacKaye's "white privilege" shines thru in that track 😂
The thing w punk was that well educated punkers would see the irony. But the small town punkers took this stuff literally and got a charge out of it because it was transgressive.
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When they played in Gainesville FL their van broke down and they stayed at my house for a couple of nights. We screen printed every bit of clothing we had with Necros graphics, ha. Their roadie Brian Mank skated, so we were instant friends. Good times!
Do u have any shirts or anything from that time?
We were there straight from the Ch 3 show in Daytona or somewhere. 1982 maybe. Bouncing superballs all over the place. I’m glad to hear this again because I thought it sucked 40 years ago and I was right. I could write an album better than this in one day. - Joey Coma
I second if you got any necros shirts left!!! I’ll pay you for one!
hardcore rules
@@sacpeacebenefits1990 see my comment below. Will look for some of those old prints.
I.Q. 32 0:00
Youth Camp 0:23
Peer Pressure 1:47
Race Riot 3:07
Wargame 4:17
I Hate My School 4:51
Past Comes Back To Haunt Me 5:59
Reject 6:45
Public High School 8:16
The REAL Hero!
@@OtherMike5000 Hell yeah mate,real...
It was The Necros that really started the 1980s Toledo punk scene (yes, Maumee is a Toledo suburb). We would all hang out downtown at Portside dressed all in black like zombies. Barry and Todd would come around occasionally to the various warehouse punk shows. This was long before punk broke into mainstream and we were an absolute tiny group of misfits from all over Toledo, Detroit and the suburbs. The song Reject was an honest description of us back then.
Punk rock kind of belonged to us, not NYC, California or the UK. Starting as far back as the Johnny and the Hurricanes, The Stooges, etc, our music output was always raw, faster and more aggressive. It was the mechanized blue collar culture of the auto industry adapted to sound.
Great times and people never to be repeated!
No one talks about Hitler Youth H/C.
The first time I saw them was in Detroit at Bookies... when they warmed up for The Misfits. I LOVED them... and would see them at EVERY subsequent show in Detroit (Freezer...) and in Ann Arbor.
I remember when they played at an outdoor show in E. Lansing, Mi, 1981.. They had a couple
groupies in tow with metal box/purses chained to their wrists that contained their heroin and hypodermic needles and junk. I was kinda in awe.
one of the best Hardcore 7" EP's ever
along with legless bull, no policy, what we want is free and more
@@zs3473 oh yes! agreed..also Pick your king
no
@@gazriley624 and the N/A 7"
@@kryptichands968 agreed
Any Sacramaniacs remember Stuart Katz and Club Minimal...tight place for a show...loved going to Sacramento!
Necros were unreal in their early days! Thanks for posting.
they turned to hard rock, eventually.
Bill Grott
I mean that in their early (punk rock) days they killed it. This album was a great example of......pure energy.
@@rainyhain5454 they're gone
saw them with the (Glen Dansig) Misfits at the Ukrainian national home in New York City, in early 80's . was an awesome show
Ukranian what ??
LittleSurrealist probably some hall that's rented out. When I was in a band we played this place that was a french cultural center.
NEXUS2040 lol. In Greece punk concerts would never be hosted by a churche etc.
im sure Negative Approach was probaly on the bill to!
Heads destroy
And, btw, only discovered these guys recently in my mid-50's. LOVE IT! Wish I'd known about these guys back in the day, but no Google and no internet back then :(
You had to mail order form ads in punk zines. Ian sent me early Dischord 45s with personal letters of thanks for supporting the scene!
the documentary american hardcore and why be something your not got me into them when i was in high school like 15 yrs ago or more
but you had fanzines, people at gigs, tape trading etc. There's no excuse 😀
Punks not dead
One of the dopest punk lps ever made
blackout!!!
I remember going to see them as a teenager in Detroit, thinking, “I might get stabbed tonight”
Might have been at the Freezer Theater or Nunzio's or Bookie's, etc.
Группа безумно классная👿👍песни кайфовые безумно великолепные все потрясающе🔥🤘🤘🤘🤘мне дико нравится оболдено!!!!хой..
Proud to be from Ohio because of these guys
Go Tribe.
Love this album!
Yes! Thanks so much for getting this back on youtube.
great Old Punk period!!! Bring back the Old good day,s I say.
Old punk was 1976-79.
My first show ever. They blew the Dead Kennedys off the stage.
Fucking cool!
Fuck you, Jello has some of the most influential songs of political sand social issues OF ALL TIME.
Just because they're more fast and more traditional aggressive hardcore, doesn't mean they're better. That makes them way more one dimensional in a way, listen to the Dead Kennedys Plastic Surgery Distasters. Each song is a masterpiece, they're music is way more dynamic and musical.
Each Dead Kennedys song varies so much one to the other, whereas with Necros you get what you expect. Fast, aggressive, low production quality etc.
@@nathanpenick959 jesus christ dude calm down
One of the true greats of the Midwest HC scene, and there were a LOT of great bands ie Negative Approach, Meatmen, The Fix, Die Kreuzen, and many more. I just got an old live recording of Necros recently, with no identifying marks other than Necros live. I'm hoping to be able to digitize and send it to someone who'd know what the show particulars are (venue, date, etc.). Anyway, great post! Thanks :D
die kruezen and Mecht Mensch were fkn gold
I'm from texas (born Ill-Noise though) but most of those bands passed through here in the early 80s. Awesome stuff. Mastertape I
Yah left out Articles of Faith, The Effigies, Husker Du and Naked Raygun!!!
I grew up in NW Ohio in the early 80s, loved these guys and Negative Approach (still do!). Thanks for posting, 80s HC rules!!
Good show in Savannah.. long ago 85-6?.. Sunday School was glad to have Necros to thrash with
I grew up listening to US Hardcore The 1981 - 1883 period will never be bettered HXC Rules !!!!! ( still )
True, but 2000's (especially the early 2000's) hardcore came pretty close. There was a huge revival of this sound in the 2000's with many great bands and labels like Bones Brigade, Total Fury, Amdi-Petersons Arme, Cut The Shit, Knife Fight, 86' Mentality, Life Trap, Cardiac Arrest, The Snobs, Lifes Halt, What Happens Next, Tear It Up, DS13, Nine Shocks Terror, Deranged Records, Dead Alive Records, No Way Records, Grave Mistake Records, My War Records, Mankind, Indecision, Youngblood etc.. Check them out brother.
1800s hardcore punk is the best
Seems as though only yesteryear my fine chap and myself would break wagon wheels over poor knaves' heads. Thine rags hit hard.
Agreed sir early 80s energy and enthusiasm, plus so many great regional scenes to choose from. Wish we had a time machine!
@@chuy8356 yeah...but by then it's recycled. Nothing beats that first, raw, wild, overpowering wave of US Hardcore.
Kick ass ep the US had a shit ton of sick ass hardcore bands back then
With Youth Brigade at TUTS in Chicago 84ish. Oh those good old days.
Necros are from Maumee, Ohio.
RadAlarm So am I!
que buen disco este, el descubrimiento del día
My fav hardcore release.
I saw them at some crazy place in Detroit called the Hungry Brain. Those were the days!
Simplesmente espetacular
AWESOME.
Soundtrack for my life
Surf in the morning and skate the rest of the day
Excelente !!! 👊
Fabio Drumond 🤛
Awesome!
Saw them at the On Broadway on the Conquest For Death tour; all their songs sounded way better live, so powerful. All the new tunes were laid in the dust by the live versions.
Wow flashback, I miss the On Broadway days along with the Farm, the stone and the Omni in Berkeley.
Cheers from a SF Native.
clear old hardcore, old but timeless..very nice
Up in your face....great music...
Killer early H/C!!
Solid Punk..👊
I always wanted to buy this 7"
yep!
Heard I hate school
Then 7 seconds
Life sentence
TSOL
Soia demo early 87
Changed my life.....
in a row... crucial chaos Wnyu
Yup!
It amazes me to see old school 7" eps with 8 songs. Can get away with that at the expense of bass response, but that don't matter to punk music.
Obscurity Stunt at least it's a 45!
better than their album IMO....Classic
only very few 7" as great as this. too bad not to have it hurts
@Gary Dawson ... me too :)
Cool that every song is about high school. Reminds me especially of my jr high school where race riots were very common. This was in Southern California where there is and was tons of Mexican gangs and also the bloods, crips and other sects. It didn’t have to do with being racist, so much as defending yourself and your friends and the attackers were always those of a different race. In time, in certain areas, things would change and you would see the onset of racist skinheads which introduced racism in the punk scenes. Although you wouldn’t consider necros a racist band, nor would you minor threat or black flag (unless of course you took the song “white pride” the wrong way), the skinheads could relate to the lyrics and didn’t mind stomping you if you had long hair, save for the actual punks that had long hair like Henry Rollins for a time and Keith morris. As time passed it became a confusing thing for the youth, the gangs still prevalent, even more so than before and the punks not sure if retaliation made them racist, just knowing that when they did win a fight or a brawl that I felt good and with a young impressionable mind I can see it, and did see it have an effect on the way youth thought about skin color, just most people seem to be in denial about this. Necros nails it on the head.
The real fucking deal, right here.
Studette make some old school HC and post punk. Very cool band i love that style and much more...
Unfortunately, back in the early 80s, punk in S. California was very tribal. Being from Hollywood, we were spoiled, and we had the mentality that our bands were the best and everything else was shit and 2nd rate. A few bands like Minor Threat and all the UK bands were fully embraced but little else. Bands like SS decontrol, the Effigies, Kraut... would play here but never got the love. It's a shame that the majority of punks from our area were like this. Even the Misfits weren't accepted here as punk. We missed out on a lot of good bands like Necros because of our close-minded thinking and tribal attitude.
i was there.
Man Ohio might be a wasteland, but it’s definitely provided us with some fabulous music
Straight up man. Rocket from the Tombs were awesome.
Is Skatopia still around?
This band and Surf Nazis Must Die sound like they have Eric Cartman on the mic
hyviä biisejä !
Reject rejecttttt
yes
fucking badass
This guys were too fuckin sick
It is high time for all of the young punks to reclaim a new scene. We did it in 1981, what are you waiting for?
They're out there. You're so old now, like me that it's hard to stay connected to the underground.
Ohio represent!
216 man starvation army Electric eels dead boys zero dfx
Even though Detroit claimed them as our own:)
@@RacerX-bv9io fuck yeah we did. Hahahah
@@RacerX-bv9io Wherever their from they rock! Love to see them play some shows again
Top 5 punk album
Corey Rusk owns all recordings by The Necros & refuses to rerelease them.Luckily,theres RUclips tho.
Why
@@Fabester71 it's called Bad Blood & Grudges.
It's called Touch and Go people.
@@markcaslin8305 Its Called still Unreleased.
I heard it was a Barry issue....
These guys used to come to our shows in Jackson Michigan and party with my band the Scabz. They asked us to go open for them in new York, but Dave and I hastily decided to not do that... And WHAT the fuck were we thinking, eh David? These cats from Ohio.. Yep. Did the singer have a bad hand or was that someone else's singer.... Shit I'll never know!
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 ! !
Fukc, I miss this band.
chEErs,
93
Barry-Vocals has a 'South Park' CARTMAN sound
Demo #11 brought me here.
Fuck yeah!
Fucking yes
BIG BOYS.....
oh no shit I saw them with Dks and BGK in Houston and BGK was completely rad.
Fuck yeah! always wanted to hear this. Vomit in my mouth! from Dead Babies in Vomit.
Classic shit. Three thumbs way up.
"If you aren't now. You never were." Cyco Mike Muir
Best 9:25 I’ve spent this millennium.
I shouldn't like this but it's really good lol
@Michael Marino I'm not a skin
@@johnnihil1689 Far from Skin !
@@jameswatt4694 nah these guys were racist
John Nihil nah you’re misinterpreting the lyrics. Barry is dissing racists and homophobes. Maybe they got old and became Trump supporters later but I was there back then and still have this 7” Fvck Racism
@@jameswatt4694 How is this satire on any level? Never once does he insult them. The lyrics read like a white supremacist recruitment pamphlet written by a fat high schooler who never got laid.
Sounds like germs mixed with descendents
sounds like minor threat cross descendents
Good call
I'll take this over both
This EP is dope, i prefer the Charles Bronson version of IQ32 though.
they kinda sound like raegan youth
No brother, they don't.
Not even close. Reagan youth is more prog and Sabbath meets new York hardcore. Next is are much faster and thrashy
@@idolthreatpodcast2138 I think he means the vocals sounds similar to Dave Insurgents' .. I could be wrong, but my guess.
Youth camp is meant to be sarcastic, right?
That’s the beauty of music as an art form. I hear satire in “youth camp” and “race riot”. Maybe others don’t. Maybe that’s not what the artist intended and maybe it is. Your world is defined by how you see it.
@@dwaw13 It's not satire - they're pointing out real issues regarding race / racism / racial prejudice in America...this was 1980, and damn do the lyrics of Race Riot really hit home in the current social climate.
Just realized thisEP was produced by Ian MacKaye - Minor Threat wrote / sang "Guilty of Being White.." now THERE is a song that wouldn't go over well today. MacKaye's "white privilege" shines thru in that track 😂
Will Rose you’re right, I think satire was the wrong word. Maybe irony is a better choice.
The thing w punk was that well educated punkers would see the irony. But the small town punkers took this stuff literally and got a charge out of it because it was transgressive.
NOFX covered song 1
Fat Mike = vulture.
FUCK NoFx antifa posterchildren
the first song I don't know if it's satire or he's been dead serious
Shut up
@@chickenwing4080 oh shit sorry i meant the second song, geez didn't notice that sounded mean my mistake
@@Soundeagle3456 it's satire
He's serious, which is why he spams the N word at several points on the EP
Shud have been a 12” record why put so many songs on a single still don’t get it
will bit o hjmj
Still prefer Dead Kennedys or Black Flag
best stuff ever...............