I wonder what the overlap is between people who say "You're not old enough to work here!" and people who say "Young people today won't go out and get a job!"
@Luis Martinez While it might be true some of these stories are fake fact is I've seen equally stupid shit people do on many occasions. Not everyone's lives are as mundane as yours. Crazy shit does in fact happen. You probably spend more time behind the screen than you do interacting with the world.
On that first story, I would originally have been going to throw the book at him, humiliate and fire him but not after he maned up to it. Do you realize how many people would try to bluster or make excuses? He apologized and offered to pay for everything. While his behavior was not ok, manning up and doing the right thing is rare these days and earned him back a great deal of the respect he lost. I would probably have done exactly what they did here because he owned up.
It's that he owned up to it and was willing to make amends that probably got him that second chance. It proves he's willing to confront his own failures and deal with them.
@@stephanginther9051 Agreed. He was full of ambition. While he acted incorrectly on that ambition, he had the honor and integrity to admit his mistake and desire to fix it. Not only does he have good character; he is also teachable.
That first story- I'm impressed that Chad actually admitted to fucking up, most people would usually rather DIE than admit they made a mistake, there is hope for this guy
I got one of those "There is a problem with your Windows" scammers once. I did something I had read on a blog about scammers. "Windows? windows? The ones in this room are fine - lemme go check the ones in the bedroom..." Those rude people hung up on me!
New hires were always fun. Context, I had really long hair, hated shaving. New guy walks in, asks me "Where's the idiot I'm supposed to report to?" I stepped back, told him to have a seat with the rest and walked out. When I came back, he realized the mistake. No, didn't send him out. Turned out to be a good worker. Why? Because he apologized. And he watched me fire a few people that morning.
I love that they gave that first story guy another chance to prove that he can do better. Admitting to his mistake and apologizing shows promise! he has been humbled! he will hopefully make a great leader some day!
I love the ending to that first story, cause it could have gone SO differently. I’m glad things worked out, lesson learned and hopefully he’s a great employee.
That first guy should've never been hired on. That's just a lawsuit waiting to happen. One serving of humble pie won't be enough to keep someone that presumptuous and busy from doing something like that again!
"17, 20, what's the difference?" Well for starters there totally different numbers. And I thought my maths was crap. This person's in charge of a bloody cafe.
And see stole the girls tips. Rewerds the Nasty old man for acting 13 and rips off the employee for doung her job. I hope when qutie she screwed em over
If I'm not mistaken a 16 year old can even get a job. Going off the job aspect of what the FM might have been referencing then yes there's no difference between 17 and 20 if you're legally allowed to work at the age of 17.
Had one like the scammer one happen at work. The energy company called around the same time as a scammer faking being that energy company was harassing us. (We know one was a scammer because they threatened to shut down power in 30 minutes if we didn't pay them Right then... Something against real power company's policy/ what the real company's website warned about.) Well we told the boss about it, and they found out that the card had expired and the real company was trying to let us know we were a month over due. The boss called and explained the situation to the real company and they understood. I'm pretty sure that I actually told one of the real company's people how shameful they were and hung up. They were probably pretty confused about why I was calling them a scammer. 😅
I had someone ask me how they knew I really was from the company I said I was from. I said, I can hang up and you can call back. They said "no that's OK." I guess just the offer was enough.
More likely not. More likely they knew about the scammer and that's why they were patient enough to give your company time to pay. You probably had a few people at the power company cursing out the scammers.
Personally, my breaking point would have been the FM calling me 17 and then asking what's the difference. I'd have slapped them, screamed "I quit!" and stormed out. Probably not before flipping them off and calling them fascist bastards. I'd probably return whatever was left of the waitstaff uniform by mail after it was given a nice gasoline soak and then burned. Because that kind of clothing is both degrading and childish.
@@haworthlowell805 Misogynistic pricks just don't like brutal honesty. And if you find any kind of workplace bullying acceptable, then I'm glad I don't work with or for you. I'd say "Fuck you" but even that much is too good for you.
I was 23, fresh out of the Army, and a 6' 200lbs gorilla, never thought I had a babyface, but this exchange changed my mind, I started growing my life long beard after. I'd gone back to work at a factory, but worked weekends as a bouncer at a strip club. More than once I've had guys question my age, but one became quite adamant about it when I asked him to leave for grabbing at the dancers. Now I always assume fools like this are just trying to pick a fight, after all, alcohol makes everybody 10' tall, and bullet proof. But I still try to talk them out, one of the other bouncers came over, and told him I was a full grown man, and a fully bonded security specialist in bouncing idiots out the D** door. That was it, no more Mr nice Guy, he took a swing, and got a harsh lesson in Army hand to hand combat training. He became a regular, and was always willing to back our play when trouble started.
Second story - In most settings like this, a FM is not allowed to take tips earned from an employee weather they realized they earned it or not. In most places I worked, this practice is illegal and could be considered theft. You’re a FM with possibly a salaried income so you know you’re getting the same income no matter your work situation, she is an employee living from check to check at below minimum wage because Murica says it’s the common practice in a restaurant setting. That tip is the difference for her being able to afford to get to work or not, even having food on the table or not (these are big issues depending how big of a family she could have) and could break her if she doesn’t have a safety net to support her at home.
Being a 62 yr old disabled man not only do I listen to your program, but re listen to them just about all day. I'm In a lot of pain and your voice relaxes me so for a few minutes each program I'm at least smiling and not thinking about hurting. Thanks.
So, on the first story, the guy stole personal/company property (the towing sticker) and called the towing company without authority and they let him keep his job? Wow, talk about setting the guy up to walk all over you.
If that is the only mistake he makes in the first 3 months they can call themselves lucky. In my month on the job i managed to input a part number in the quantity field for a reservation on a production order. Next morning i got a call from accounting asking me if we really nedded more than 2.000.000 Tag readers (100 euros a piece) for a folding machine. The ladies from accounting still laugh about that to this day.
And, as I mentioned, he also bullied and blocked OP when she tried to enter the building. So, no, I wouldn't have hired him. He was dishonest, arrogant, stupid, and only retreated when he found out she was his boss. I wouldn't hire that guy to clean up dog waste in a public park.
He apologised and tried his best to make it (what he thought had happened) right again. That shows honesty and integrity, which is rare and also usually a valuable employee characteristic for a company.
Interesting first story. Lots of young new hires in the 1980s and 1990s had similar attitudes. They were going to redesign the products even though they did not know how they worked. I am glad this young man was given a second chance and displayed an attitude change. We can all learn if we do not act like we know it all.
Not true. They actually went to school to learn about changing said companies. Because that's when a lot of thinks were changing. Computers, cell phones etc etc. So yeah, things would run better if you were using a computer instead of a 3 ring binder. Yeah it's easier to get ahold of your delivery driver when they have a cell phone. I guess using a map is better than a GPS. Kids actually went out and got jobs. Not like kids today that think they know everything and are owed everything.
@@ralphtrynor9719 The problem is that they did not learn all they needed in school (bachelor's degree) to become in charge of product design. The company hired Phds for that work. They were hired to write code. But they did not know the internals of how the operating systems they were working actually worked. Nor the products they wanted to be in charge of redesigning. My company produced tower pcs, laptops, unix servers, mainframes but never cell phones. They produced operating systems for those computers. They produced other products for those platforms . They were coming straight out of college knowing one or two computer languages only and the only type of computer they knew about was the ones owned by their university for students to use and practice running programs on, not my company's computers. They did not know the machines they had to work with in my company at all. Their expectations of being basically research fellows with a bachelors degree were unrealistic. Sure Bill Gates did it with no degrees but his MS-DOS was actually not designed nor written by him. It was designed and written by some guy who was induced to sell the rights to Gates who remarketed it. Did you ever notice how MS hardware never made it big except for their gaming systems? Ah, yes, I remember well the days of the blue screen of death on pcs running Windows OS. A big no-no in design, to have a problem and crash the whole operating system.
@@ralphtrynor9719 Eh, they also were paid a living wage back then, so a little abuse was okay. I'm out here risking my life for 11.73 an hour, and before you gripe, I'm in my mid 30's and the boomers are even more pissed at the wages. Hell, I had 2 jobs in highschool AND worked at my uncle's ranch on the one day off a week I had. Still I got called lazy because any free time I'd want to nap, because I was so busy all the time. Hell, my first car was worth 4 and a half tanks of gas and my mother blew the engine. The most entitled people I've met were boomers.
Story #1 yup nh was very lucky that the boss was forgiving, but he should have been fired on the spot. His behavior was unforgivable in my eyes, he acted like he owned place on his first day. In time he will be a major detriment to the company.
The moral of the last story: 1)If you are a legit business, leave a voicemail message so the person you are calling can call you back if they don't answer. 2) If you're going to answer, don't automatically assume "scammer" or "telemarketer" just because you don't recognize the number. If you listen for 10 seconds, you'll *know* whether they are a scammer or telemarketer, and you won't make an ass of yourself. This is especially true if one of your loved ones has a medical alarm. Doing what this person did, could potentially kill someone you care about, because you wasted time that could've been spent calling an ambulance.
Op may have had a bad start to his new job, but the GM AND FEMALE employee took in their stride and let this guy make mistakes on his 1st day. If this had been in the UK the GUYS FEET WOULD HAVE NOT TOUCHED THE GROUND, AS HE WAS SHOWN THE DOOR.
A friend of mine, at one time, did look slightly younger than she actually was, and she was of age to buy beer, but the clerk, who was same age as her, and had gone to school with her, refused to serve her because she "looked underage", She had to sell it to her after she produced her ID, but still the clerk acted as if she had fake ID.
I look mid 20's but I'm 50 yrs old. I got several people thinking that I was young like mid 20's. But when they hear that I am like 50, they can't believe it. I tell them if I was in my mid 20's, it would be the year 1990's, and their jaws drop. I had to show one my DL before they believed me. They said that I couldn't be 50 as I look too young. When they saw my birth year, they asked how do she get my genes, I laughed and said, the ladies on my mom's side always aged gracefully. The photo of my mom on my cell phone was taken when she was 63 years old in 2005. They just couldn't believe that I was as old as I stated.
Long ago and far away, I was filling out paperwork to work at the in house cafe at the Bon Marche.... that last part may be misspelled. Sounds like mar'-shay. It's a food service position, and I have a set of papers 1" thick to fill out. I'm 17 at the time, and have never to this day had to fill out so many papers to get hired ANYWHERE else... and this is over 30 years ago, and not including aptitude testing, which wasn't a thing back then. A guy I've never seen comes through the room I'm in to pass through to somewhere else, and I commented, "Sure is a lot of paperwork," with a bemused smile. He glances at me without stopping or speaking. I finally finish, and go home. Couple of hours later, a woman I don't know calls me up and informs me that they won't be needing me. I ask why, and she refuses to tell me "over the phone." I check the time. "How long will you be there today?" She tells me, and I have JUST enough time to catch one of the local buses and arrive before she goes. "Okay," I replied, hung up and ran off to catch it. THIS time I'm not in my "I Want To Be Hired!" best, but in casual "I Fit In" style of tidy dove-gray jeans that fit (but weren't painted on), darker gray tank under a white with pink pattern big shirt, with clean tennis shoes. Fans of 80's movies will know the style well enough. I manage to get there before she leaves, and I'm quiet and respectful in asking why she let me go before I even worked, and she tells me it's because of my comment on the paperwork. I give her a disbelieving look, and she decides since I was =so= prompt to turn up after she called me, that she'll give me a chance. One month later, working split shifts (which I've never agreed to work again), and while the man who hired me is on vacation, she terminates me again, because she still doesn't feel I'm a good fit for them. I hadn't really been enjoying the work, so I shrugged and moved on. Having been just under a month of working there, I didn't even bother putting it on my work history, not even once. Feel free to use this, if you like.
I keep them interested as long as I can in order to keep them from fleecing someone else. You can tell the 'seasoned' ones because they will 'play along' for a short while then without any indication they simply DISCONNECT... no warning or attempt to say the 'connection' was bad! Regardless, they know each minute I delay them that is another potential 'mark'!
I worked for decades in hotels & restaurants both behind the bar & at table service. I loved the hospitality industry. I was good at it & always got great tips. In Australia tipping is fairly common but not really expected or essential. We happily have good wages. Esp in licensed places. I only ever worked in one restaurant where the manager openly stole our tips. I quit immediately. It's not a good idea to rip off your front of house staff. It certainly won't motivate staff loyalty.
I get calls every day from someone that can "help with the extended warranty that's about to expire" on my car (don't have the 'extended warranty'), help get a better APR on my student loans (that I NEVER had!), or can help me get a rebate from XXX Electric company (that I haven't had since I moved SIX YEARS AGO). I usually tell them F**K OFF (if it's the robocall, just in case they're listening) or ask them when was the last time they checked the national do not call registry, then hang up on them. My favorite is the Election Poller. It went something like this: EP: Hi, I'm XXX from the XXX for president committee. I'd like to ask you a few questions about who you're voting for this year. ME: You do know it's called a secret ballot for a reason, right? EP: Um - ok - so we were asking people who they are voting for and why. ME: Before I answer that, can I ask you a question? EP: Um - sure. ME has anyone ver hung up on you before? EP: um - - - yes. ME: Did it sound something like this? *click*
In that first story, the clown that tried to have a car towed should have been booted out for it. Why would you hire someone that proved on his very first day that he was a back stabbing sneak?
That 3rd (?) story- that old man's complaint was very specific, he's probably had that happen to him- or done it himself when he was younger- old dude was totally projecting
Yes, youtube wants to make it so all videos are in a "child friendly" language or not using words that hurt fragile fee fees. I think censorship is stupid to begin with, but youtube have taken it to a whole other level of stupid.
Child friendly? You mean infant friendly. How low have we gotten to where kids aren't allowed to grow up naturally anymore... Coddling them so will only hinder their mental development. If you love your kid, don't hide the world from them
@@alpharabbit2353 I agree, shielding kids from the world is what has led to the insufferably oversensitive adult sized children we are dealing with now. Plus there is already a youtube kids, keep the kid friendly content there and stop censoring regular youtube.
On the scammer story, I used to let my7 good friend "Special Ed" handle all spam calls, "Hi I went to school today... what's your name... mama got me a new pair shoes... what's your name... I went to school... what's your name" CLICK
@@ruthdeckman9781 I thought you were calling them silly children over Dr. Seuss' Whoville until I saw a reference to "a Doctor Who phrase ❤️". L - O - L (I have never watched Dr. Who, but did read to 5 children and 3 grandchildren.)
The first employee should have been terminated before they even brought him on board. An a$$hole is an a$$hole and he showed his true colors. I bet he was still a problem after that, once he got comfortable.
In the first one, around 3:50, I understand looking mad due to the strain of trying not to laugh. The other person thinks you're wanting to tear into them, but all along you'll killing yourself trying to hold off the laughter.
What's with the "This is on mobile" ? Someone please explain? I'm aware these stories come from reddit. I don't do reddit. Just never was interested. Does it act differently on your phone than on your PC/laptop/tablet?
Not to mention the interface is entirely different on PC than on Mobile. Mobile version of Reddit has a much smaller screen so long stories take longer to type up and you can't easily check for spelling errors and the lot. You also are more likely to be interrupted while typing by a phone call or text.
Ahhh, student loans. I deferred mine each year until 2019 when I turned 50. I then got a lovely letter saying that as I was now an old man, they were going to write off my loans. Which was nice.
I love the student loan scammers, they call me all the time wanting me to settle up with them, but there's just one hitch .. I don't owe a dime for college, I know this because when I graduate I made sure to settle any debts I may have had out with the school before leaving and I have all the paperwork to prove I didn't owe anything. Yet I still get calls from both scammers and the real deal, I explained I am debt free with paperwork to prove it and there's no reason to pursue this any further. Still love the scammers saying I have outstanding fee of $150 for graduation, but my college doesn't and never has had a graduation fee. Still, I called the administration office at the college and checked to see if I really had outstanding loans and fees to pay. I did not, but it's still fun to play along with it and eventually laugh at them for trying.
My favorite was the time I was called and my grandson was in jail in Miami and I needed to wire 10K to get him out of jail. I told them to keep him! They obviously didn't know I had no children or grandchildren.
I know I'm months behind on this, but this is actually pertinent. I the parking story, when the new hire blocked OP from entering the building when she tried to walk past him, he was breaking the law. that behavior, that he would block and try to bully a woman who was walking towards a door is a big red flag, and I would never trust him.
Seems that people of a certain age, sees everyone as much younger than they are. I remember having to speak with a neighbor about a matter involving my kid; this was sometime before the lady passed. I think she must have been like late 80s or something. I'll never forget her looking at me in surprise, saying that I looked like a kid myself. I looked too young to have a kid. I was early 40s around the time.
The third one could be cut easy if the called for informations that only they could have provided. That is how things normaly work. If they are the real deal they can identify the called with only a few specific safe answers and yeah. Same goes the other way as well. Such companies legitimate their customer first and then do the business. Scammers should not have access to some of the deeper personal questions/answers.
One tip which stops most telemarketers and scammers is to get an answering machine and let it screen your calls. Their dialling machine waits for the ring tone to stop and for someone to say "hello" before transferring the call to a person, but if an answering machine message starts up, the dialling machine will usually hang up the call automatically. The telemarketer would still have to pay for the call since the call was answered, unless they're on some kind of flat price plan. If you're absolutely certain that you'll never get a legitimate caller using such a machine, you can try adding the universal "number unobtainable / no such number" signal at the start of your answering machine recording. It should work even if it's mixed in with your voice. The dialling machines can "hear" that tone and automatically delete your number from their dialling list since the telemarketers don't want to waste time calling non-existent numbers.
@@theresahall8206 Try this: Instead of answering with "hello?" instead answer with "This is (your first name), who's calling, please?" (if you don't know the caller ID). If they're using an auto-dialler, it may mistake your long greeting for an answering service and hang up. In general, the longer your greeting is, the more likely it is to be mistaken for an answering machine by the auto-dialler. My usual method of dealing with anyone who gets through that is to simply hang up without even talking to them, since you can usually tell that it's a telemarketer just from the way the call goes from total silence to the person speaking with more talking in the background.
The parking Nazi needs to get with the program. But the company needs to correct signs. “Admin parking only, keys must be available to maintenance”. Or just Employees only. On student loans. I would expect they sent a snail mail notice?
Yeah, I would not have been so nice. Showing up at a company and tell them how you're going to run the place. If you are not the President or CEO, no. I would have just told him, sorry, you are not a good fit for our company. Thank you, have a nice day.
Never can understand why people can not be aware that a payment (for example student loan repayment) has not gone out of their account for several months. Don’t they reconcile their accounts? Don’t they wonder why they have extras money showing in their account?
I think the first guy just wanted to do an amazing and impressive job making the office run as perfect as possible and make a good impression, he was probably a bit distracted in thinking of what he could do and missed a bit of orientation being in his own head
You're the best reader of any of these. If your program pretending to be human that I congratulate whoever wrote you. If on the other hand you are as I suspect, human, then I congratulate you on being both the most personable of all the readers, the one of the true sense of drama, and the ability to pronounce words correctly and emphasize the sentences properly. You appear to read through them in advance, which some of the others clearly don't.
In the second story, I would have pulled out my driver's license in front of the manager and said "Why did you just lie about me to this pompous old clown?"
A mates reaction to scammers is to ask them what they are wearing, more specifically their underwear. Male or female, doesn’t matter. Either way it apparently makes them uncomfortable enough to hang up when you ask them if they like lacy lingerie. Go figure 🧐
1st story doesn’t make a whole lot of sense, as any police officer would ticket a vehicle in a no parking zone, doesn’t matter if you are an employee or owner. No parking is a city/state sign, not a private property. I get they are trying to be nice but the young man is not in the wrong for what he did.
He did mess up really bad. He's very lucky other people caught it before it turned out even worse. Good for him for speaking up, that probably saved him.
Someone once tried to call my house phone claiming to be a third party calling on behalf of the university I was attending about a discrepancy in my student loans. My grandmother answered the phone and told them that she knew damn well that if there was a problem, then the financial aid advisor would have asked to speak to me directly because I was already on campus. She texted me about it and I went to my advisor straight away to inform them of what just happened and they assured me that they do not have third party companies call students for any reason. The last time the scammers called, I tore them a new one about how I wasn't stupid enough to believe their obvious bullshit and hung up. I wish I also told them to screw off.
Yeah first story sounds fake or exaggerated. If he really did all that against a coworker on his first day, that would have been grounds for dismissal right there or risk further lawsuits caused by the knuckle head.
can someone please tell me what they are going to take from you if you default on your student loans? are they going to take your diploma away? maybe the knowledge you got? its so funny listening to those because their is literally nothing they can do if you do default on your student loan.
@@jacklow9611 what credit rating? either your parents pay for your college or you do and are 100k in debt from the minute you graduate. so your credit can only go up from there.
@@teacher555555: What GRADUATE? I was told to start paying mine back after only two semesters. Luckily, it wasn't that much to begin with, but I was having trouble with finding reliable employment, but I did manage to get it all paid off, a few years later.
@@jacklow9611 let me guess, you went to a community college right? nothing wrong with it, you get the same education as an ivy league school but at a much cheaper rate but also means what you said, you had to start paying for it soon after starting. ivy league schools expect you to pay it all as soon as you graduate.
@@teacher555555: No. Business school, I wouldn't go to an "Ivy league" school unless it was on a full-ride scholarship, and even then, I'd have to deeply consider if I wanted to try to be so "Hoity Toity".
a place i worked at some years ago had no dresscode at all, but then aigen a stable isent realy the best place to force a dresscode like only thing they could realy force is maybe wear shoes with a steel cap toe or something like that for safety reasons (if riding a horse it was obiously mandetory to use a riding helmet for safety reason)
I wonder what the overlap is between people who say "You're not old enough to work here!" and people who say "Young people today won't go out and get a job!"
1:1, I'd bet on that
In a Venn diagram it's an overlapping circle
Well, to be fair, if he really thought she was 13, it would be illegal for her to be working there. Unless her parents owned the joint.
Luis Martinez Clearly you’re unaware of just how stupid some people can actually be.
@Luis Martinez While it might be true some of these stories are fake fact is I've seen equally stupid shit people do on many occasions. Not everyone's lives are as mundane as yours. Crazy shit does in fact happen. You probably spend more time behind the screen than you do interacting with the world.
On that first story, I would originally have been going to throw the book at him, humiliate and fire him but not after he maned up to it. Do you realize how many people would try to bluster or make excuses? He apologized and offered to pay for everything. While his behavior was not ok, manning up and doing the right thing is rare these days and earned him back a great deal of the respect he lost. I would probably have done exactly what they did here because he owned up.
It's that he owned up to it and was willing to make amends that probably got him that second chance. It proves he's willing to confront his own failures and deal with them.
@@FirstIsa exactly
I would have still have fired the dude
@@stephanginther9051 Agreed. He was full of ambition. While he acted incorrectly on that ambition, he had the honor and integrity to admit his mistake and desire to fix it. Not only does he have good character; he is also teachable.
@@ricardomontez8063 and that is why you don't have a high end office job
That first story- I'm impressed that Chad actually admitted to fucking up, most people would usually rather DIE than admit they made a mistake, there is hope for this guy
I got one of those "There is a problem with your Windows" scammers once. I did something I had read on a blog about scammers. "Windows? windows? The ones in this room are fine - lemme go check the ones in the bedroom..." Those rude people hung up on me!
New hires were always fun. Context, I had really long hair, hated shaving. New guy walks in, asks me "Where's the idiot I'm supposed to report to?" I stepped back, told him to have a seat with the rest and walked out. When I came back, he realized the mistake. No, didn't send him out. Turned out to be a good worker. Why? Because he apologized. And he watched me fire a few people that morning.
What asswipe would come in saying something like that? People are truly stupid!
I love that they gave that first story guy another chance to prove that he can do better. Admitting to his mistake and apologizing shows promise! he has been humbled! he will hopefully make a great leader some day!
I love the ending to that first story, cause it could have gone SO differently. I’m glad things worked out, lesson learned and hopefully he’s a great employee.
The first one is an excellent example of 'the burnt hand learns fastest.'
That first guy should've never been hired on. That's just a lawsuit waiting to happen. One serving of humble pie won't be enough to keep someone that presumptuous and busy from doing something like that again!
"17, 20, what's the difference?"
Well for starters there totally different numbers. And I thought my maths was crap. This person's in charge of a bloody cafe.
What's the difference? Legally, a whole lot actually...
Also, the FM stealing the tips was illegal.
And see stole the girls tips. Rewerds the Nasty old man for acting 13 and rips off the employee for doung her job. I hope when qutie she screwed em over
ikr smh
17 is a minor, and 20 is an adult
If I'm not mistaken a 16 year old can even get a job. Going off the job aspect of what the FM might have been referencing then yes there's no difference between 17 and 20 if you're legally allowed to work at the age of 17.
Had one like the scammer one happen at work.
The energy company called around the same time as a scammer faking being that energy company was harassing us. (We know one was a scammer because they threatened to shut down power in 30 minutes if we didn't pay them Right then... Something against real power company's policy/ what the real company's website warned about.) Well we told the boss about it, and they found out that the card had expired and the real company was trying to let us know we were a month over due. The boss called and explained the situation to the real company and they understood. I'm pretty sure that I actually told one of the real company's people how shameful they were and hung up. They were probably pretty confused about why I was calling them a scammer. 😅
I had someone ask me how they knew I really was from the company I said I was from. I said, I can hang up and you can call back. They said "no that's OK." I guess just the offer was enough.
More likely not. More likely they knew about the scammer and that's why they were patient enough to give your company time to pay. You probably had a few people at the power company cursing out the scammers.
Instead of offering free tea, should've told him "Either stop harassing my employees or be removed from the establishment"
Second story: I would have handed in my notice right away after the FM swiped my tip...
I question if that is legal
Personally, my breaking point would have been the FM calling me 17 and then asking what's the difference. I'd have slapped them, screamed "I quit!" and stormed out. Probably not before flipping them off and calling them fascist bastards. I'd probably return whatever was left of the waitstaff uniform by mail after it was given a nice gasoline soak and then burned. Because that kind of clothing is both degrading and childish.
@@rickypedia999: It's not.
@@TheNekoMimiGamer You don't keep a job long do yoi?
@@haworthlowell805 Misogynistic pricks just don't like brutal honesty. And if you find any kind of workplace bullying acceptable, then I'm glad I don't work with or for you. I'd say "Fuck you" but even that much is too good for you.
I really hope you get big soon. You have a unique way of narrating and showing the emotion necessary for proper storytelling.
Exactly, thank you for writing what I was thinking.
Try seeing rslash basically the Same thing but sorta different
He sounds like Vince Gant or Sant from the Shred weight loss commercials.
His voice the best Cave Johnson I've ever heard.
I was 23, fresh out of the Army, and a 6' 200lbs gorilla, never thought I had a babyface, but this exchange changed my mind, I started growing my life long beard after. I'd gone back to work at a factory, but worked weekends as a bouncer at a strip club. More than once I've had guys question my age, but one became quite adamant about it when I asked him to leave for grabbing at the dancers. Now I always assume fools like this are just trying to pick a fight, after all, alcohol makes everybody 10' tall, and bullet proof. But I still try to talk them out, one of the other bouncers came over, and told him I was a full grown man, and a fully bonded security specialist in bouncing idiots out the D** door. That was it, no more Mr nice Guy, he took a swing, and got a harsh lesson in Army hand to hand combat training. He became a regular, and was always willing to back our play when trouble started.
Second story - In most settings like this, a FM is not allowed to take tips earned from an employee weather they realized they earned it or not. In most places I worked, this practice is illegal and could be considered theft. You’re a FM with possibly a salaried income so you know you’re getting the same income no matter your work situation, she is an employee living from check to check at below minimum wage because Murica says it’s the common practice in a restaurant setting. That tip is the difference for her being able to afford to get to work or not, even having food on the table or not (these are big issues depending how big of a family she could have) and could break her if she doesn’t have a safety net to support her at home.
Being a 62 yr old disabled man not only do I listen to your program, but re listen to them just about all day. I'm In a lot of pain and your voice relaxes me so for a few minutes each program I'm at least smiling and not thinking about hurting. Thanks.
So, on the first story, the guy stole personal/company property (the towing sticker) and called the towing company without authority and they let him keep his job? Wow, talk about setting the guy up to walk all over you.
Just teaching him a little object lesson.
If that is the only mistake he makes in the first 3 months they can call themselves lucky. In my month on the job i managed to input a part number in the quantity field for a reservation on a production order. Next morning i got a call from accounting asking me if we really nedded more than 2.000.000 Tag readers (100 euros a piece) for a folding machine. The ladies from accounting still laugh about that to this day.
And, as I mentioned, he also bullied and blocked OP when she tried to enter the building. So, no, I wouldn't have hired him. He was dishonest, arrogant, stupid, and only retreated when he found out she was his boss. I wouldn't hire that guy to clean up dog waste in a public park.
He stole nothing - as he "worked" for the company...
He was an arsehole ,but you needn't make silly comments, you know.
He apologised and tried his best to make it (what he thought had happened) right again. That shows honesty and integrity, which is rare and also usually a valuable employee characteristic for a company.
Interesting first story. Lots of young new hires in the 1980s and 1990s had similar attitudes. They were going to redesign the products even though they did not know how they worked. I am glad this young man was given a second chance and displayed an attitude change. We can all learn if we do not act like we know it all.
Not true. They actually went to school to learn about changing said companies. Because that's when a lot of thinks were changing. Computers, cell phones etc etc.
So yeah, things would run better if you were using a computer instead of a 3 ring binder.
Yeah it's easier to get ahold of your delivery driver when they have a cell phone.
I guess using a map is better than a GPS.
Kids actually went out and got jobs.
Not like kids today that think they know everything and are owed everything.
@@ralphtrynor9719 The problem is that they did not learn all they needed in school (bachelor's degree) to become in charge of product design. The company hired Phds for that work. They were hired to write code. But they did not know the internals of how the operating systems they were working actually worked. Nor the products they wanted to be in charge of redesigning. My company produced tower pcs, laptops, unix servers, mainframes but never cell phones. They produced operating systems for those computers. They produced other products for those platforms . They were coming straight out of college knowing one or two computer languages only and the only type of computer they knew about was the ones owned by their university for students to use and practice running programs on, not my company's computers. They did not know the machines they had to work with in my company at all. Their expectations of being basically research fellows with a bachelors degree were unrealistic. Sure Bill Gates did it with no degrees but his MS-DOS was actually not designed nor written by him. It was designed and written by some guy who was induced to sell the rights to Gates who remarketed it. Did you ever notice how MS hardware never made it big except for their gaming systems? Ah, yes, I remember well the days of the blue screen of death on pcs running Windows OS. A big no-no in design, to have a problem and crash the whole operating system.
@@ralphtrynor9719 Eh, they also were paid a living wage back then, so a little abuse was okay. I'm out here risking my life for 11.73 an hour, and before you gripe, I'm in my mid 30's and the boomers are even more pissed at the wages. Hell, I had 2 jobs in highschool AND worked at my uncle's ranch on the one day off a week I had. Still I got called lazy because any free time I'd want to nap, because I was so busy all the time. Hell, my first car was worth 4 and a half tanks of gas and my mother blew the engine. The most entitled people I've met were boomers.
@@LegendStormcrow We aren't all.
@@haworthlowell805 I know, but I've met more than my fair share.
I love the fact that he used a Doctor Who phrase ❤️🖤❤️🖤❤️🖤❤️🖤
Story #1 yup nh was very lucky that the boss was forgiving, but he should have been fired on the spot.
His behavior was unforgivable in my eyes, he acted like he owned place on his first day. In time he will be a major detriment to the company.
The moral of the last story: 1)If you are a legit business, leave a voicemail message so the person you are calling can call you back if they don't answer. 2) If you're going to answer, don't automatically assume "scammer" or "telemarketer" just because you don't recognize the number. If you listen for 10 seconds, you'll *know* whether they are a scammer or telemarketer, and you won't make an ass of yourself. This is especially true if one of your loved ones has a medical alarm. Doing what this person did, could potentially kill someone you care about, because you wasted time that could've been spent calling an ambulance.
Op may have had a bad start to his new job, but the GM AND FEMALE employee took in their stride and let this guy make mistakes on his 1st day. If this had been in the UK the GUYS FEET WOULD HAVE NOT TOUCHED THE GROUND, AS HE WAS SHOWN THE DOOR.
That's messed up the floor manager took her tips because some old guy was being an asshole. That has to be at Karen/Steve in the making.
How is that last girl, who is still in school, paying on her student loans ?? You don't start paying those until nine months AFTER graduation !
Just cuz you *can* wait, doesn't mean you should. Why not start paying on it sooner, if you can?
As someone who looks a lot younger, I get mistaken as a high schooler a lot. I'm 20.
Same here, I'm 20 but apparently look 14 to some people
26, but I think I vacillate between looking 16 and looking 40 :/
A friend of mine, at one time, did look slightly younger than she actually was, and she was of age to buy beer, but the clerk, who was same age as her, and had gone to school with her, refused to serve her because she "looked underage", She had to sell it to her after she produced her ID, but still the clerk acted as if she had fake ID.
I look mid 20's but I'm 50 yrs old. I got several people thinking that I was young like mid 20's. But when they hear that I am like 50, they can't believe it. I tell them if I was in my mid 20's, it would be the year 1990's, and their jaws drop. I had to show one my DL before they believed me. They said that I couldn't be 50 as I look too young. When they saw my birth year, they asked how do she get my genes, I laughed and said, the ladies on my mom's side always aged gracefully. The photo of my mom on my cell phone was taken when she was 63 years old in 2005. They just couldn't believe that I was as old as I stated.
Long ago and far away, I was filling out paperwork to work at the in house cafe at the Bon Marche.... that last part may be misspelled. Sounds like mar'-shay. It's a food service position, and I have a set of papers 1" thick to fill out. I'm 17 at the time, and have never to this day had to fill out so many papers to get hired ANYWHERE else... and this is over 30 years ago, and not including aptitude testing, which wasn't a thing back then. A guy I've never seen comes through the room I'm in to pass through to somewhere else, and I commented, "Sure is a lot of paperwork," with a bemused smile. He glances at me without stopping or speaking. I finally finish, and go home.
Couple of hours later, a woman I don't know calls me up and informs me that they won't be needing me. I ask why, and she refuses to tell me "over the phone." I check the time. "How long will you be there today?" She tells me, and I have JUST enough time to catch one of the local buses and arrive before she goes. "Okay," I replied, hung up and ran off to catch it.
THIS time I'm not in my "I Want To Be Hired!" best, but in casual "I Fit In" style of tidy dove-gray jeans that fit (but weren't painted on), darker gray tank under a white with pink pattern big shirt, with clean tennis shoes. Fans of 80's movies will know the style well enough. I manage to get there before she leaves, and I'm quiet and respectful in asking why she let me go before I even worked, and she tells me it's because of my comment on the paperwork. I give her a disbelieving look, and she decides since I was =so= prompt to turn up after she called me, that she'll give me a chance.
One month later, working split shifts (which I've never agreed to work again), and while the man who hired me is on vacation, she terminates me again, because she still doesn't feel I'm a good fit for them. I hadn't really been enjoying the work, so I shrugged and moved on. Having been just under a month of working there, I didn't even bother putting it on my work history, not even once.
Feel free to use this, if you like.
Should have just gone into the bank and check on the student loan. And no mention of if a paper notice was sent.
I was going to say there should have been mailed notices as well.
I love scammer calls, I offer advice on how to improve results. They normally try to deny being a scammer then toss a insult and hang up.
I keep them interested as long as I can in order to keep them from fleecing someone else. You can tell the 'seasoned' ones because they will 'play along' for a short while then without any indication they simply DISCONNECT... no warning or attempt to say the 'connection' was bad! Regardless, they know each minute I delay them that is another potential 'mark'!
I worked for decades in hotels & restaurants both behind the bar & at table service. I loved the hospitality industry. I was good at it & always got great tips. In Australia tipping is fairly common but not really expected or essential. We happily have good wages. Esp in licensed places. I only ever worked in one restaurant where the manager openly stole our tips. I quit immediately. It's not a good idea to rip off your front of house staff. It certainly won't motivate staff loyalty.
I get calls every day from someone that can "help with the extended warranty that's about to expire" on my car (don't have the 'extended warranty'), help get a better APR on my student loans (that I NEVER had!), or can help me get a rebate from XXX Electric company (that I haven't had since I moved SIX YEARS AGO). I usually tell them F**K OFF (if it's the robocall, just in case they're listening) or ask them when was the last time they checked the national do not call registry, then hang up on them.
My favorite is the Election Poller. It went something like this:
EP: Hi, I'm XXX from the XXX for president committee. I'd like to ask you a few questions about who you're voting for this year.
ME: You do know it's called a secret ballot for a reason, right?
EP: Um - ok - so we were asking people who they are voting for and why.
ME: Before I answer that, can I ask you a question?
EP: Um - sure.
ME has anyone ver hung up on you before?
EP: um - - - yes.
ME: Did it sound something like this? *click*
In that first story, the clown that tried to have a car towed should have been booted out for it. Why would you hire someone that proved on his very first day that he was a back stabbing sneak?
I am scammer wary as well. What is so funny is their reaction when you call them out and the adamant denials. HILARIOUS!!!
LOVE the Doctor Who "Wibbly-wobbly timey-wimey" reference!!
That 3rd (?) story- that old man's complaint was very specific, he's probably had that happen to him- or done it himself when he was younger- old dude was totally projecting
Why is the word "sexy" censored? Is the word "sexy" really too risque to have in print?
Yes, youtube wants to make it so all videos are in a "child friendly" language or not using words that hurt fragile fee fees. I think censorship is stupid to begin with, but youtube have taken it to a whole other level of stupid.
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Child friendly? You mean infant friendly. How low have we gotten to where kids aren't allowed to grow up naturally anymore... Coddling them so will only hinder their mental development. If you love your kid, don't hide the world from them
@@alpharabbit2353 I agree, shielding kids from the world is what has led to the insufferably oversensitive adult sized children we are dealing with now. Plus there is already a youtube kids, keep the kid friendly content there and stop censoring regular youtube.
Here's the trick to how to deal with parking violations: Unless someone is literally paying you to care, it's not your fucking problem.
On the scammer story, I used to let my7 good friend "Special Ed" handle all spam calls, "Hi I went to school today... what's your name... mama got me a new pair shoes... what's your name... I went to school... what's your name" CLICK
Wibbly wobbly timey whimey is literally the best phrase to hear with literally no context.
it's the best phrase ever. lol
Are the two of you whovians?
@@ruthdeckman9781 I thought you were calling them silly children over Dr. Seuss' Whoville until I saw a reference to "a Doctor Who phrase ❤️". L - O - L
(I have never watched Dr. Who, but did read to 5 children and 3 grandchildren.)
@@jalyc8515 lol that's alright!
That banker was a saint.
Last one: learning about how adulthood works is a tough learning curve.
The first employee should have been terminated before they even brought him on board. An a$$hole is an a$$hole and he showed his true colors. I bet he was still a problem after that, once he got comfortable.
In the first one, around 3:50, I understand looking mad due to the strain of trying not to laugh. The other person thinks you're wanting to tear into them, but all along you'll killing yourself trying to hold off the laughter.
What's with the "This is on mobile" ? Someone please explain? I'm aware these stories come from reddit. I don't do reddit. Just never was interested. Does it act differently on your phone than on your PC/laptop/tablet?
I think it's just that you're more apt to make typos.
Not to mention the interface is entirely different on PC than on Mobile. Mobile version of Reddit has a much smaller screen so long stories take longer to type up and you can't easily check for spelling errors and the lot. You also are more likely to be interrupted while typing by a phone call or text.
Alls good until the grammar/spelling nazi's jump in.
Anyone trying to help me with a student load is scamming. I do not have any.. never have had one.
You never had a student load?
That must have given you blue balls!
i don't get scammer's calls. wish i did give me something to do .lol
Really? i get 3 or 4 a day.
@@dperry19661 never idk y wish i did for some fun lol
First story, the world doesn't deserve its saints like the GM.
Ahhh, student loans. I deferred mine each year until 2019 when I turned 50. I then got a lovely letter saying that as I was now an old man, they were going to write off my loans. Which was nice.
I like #1 that was good - truthfully I would not have been that nice
Me either, he wouldn't have gotten to finish his paperwork before he was out the door.
I love the student loan scammers, they call me all the time wanting me to settle up with them, but there's just one hitch .. I don't owe a dime for college, I know this because when I graduate I made sure to settle any debts I may have had out with the school before leaving and I have all the paperwork to prove I didn't owe anything. Yet I still get calls from both scammers and the real deal, I explained I am debt free with paperwork to prove it and there's no reason to pursue this any further. Still love the scammers saying I have outstanding fee of $150 for graduation, but my college doesn't and never has had a graduation fee. Still, I called the administration office at the college and checked to see if I really had outstanding loans and fees to pay. I did not, but it's still fun to play along with it and eventually laugh at them for trying.
My favorite was the time I was called and my grandson was in jail in Miami and I needed to wire 10K to get him out of jail.
I told them to keep him!
They obviously didn't know I had no children or grandchildren.
I know I'm months behind on this, but this is actually pertinent. I the parking story, when the new hire blocked OP from entering the building when she tried to walk past him, he was breaking the law. that behavior, that he would block and try to bully a woman who was walking towards a door is a big red flag, and I would never trust him.
There are free college courses and the only thing you have to pay for is your certificate of completion or diploma, no student loans
Seems that people of a certain age, sees everyone as much younger than they are. I remember having to speak with a neighbor about a matter involving my kid; this was sometime before the lady passed. I think she must have been like late 80s or something. I'll never forget her looking at me in surprise, saying that I looked like a kid myself. I looked too young to have a kid. I was early 40s around the time.
Am I the only one that now has the urge to obtain uniforms from restaurants, go in, take an order, and then leave?
Complimentary afternoon tea/apology?
I'd have said "we don't need rude customers here - so piss off elsewhere"!
If you’re the owner you shouldn’t get pissed at a person for trying to do the job you pay him to do.
The third one could be cut easy if the called for informations that only they could have provided. That is how things normaly work. If they are the real deal they can identify the called with only a few specific safe answers and yeah. Same goes the other way as well. Such companies legitimate their customer first and then do the business. Scammers should not have access to some of the deeper personal questions/answers.
One tip which stops most telemarketers and scammers is to get an answering machine and let it screen your calls. Their dialling machine waits for the ring tone to stop and for someone to say "hello" before transferring the call to a person, but if an answering machine message starts up, the dialling machine will usually hang up the call automatically. The telemarketer would still have to pay for the call since the call was answered, unless they're on some kind of flat price plan.
If you're absolutely certain that you'll never get a legitimate caller using such a machine, you can try adding the universal "number unobtainable / no such number" signal at the start of your answering machine recording. It should work even if it's mixed in with your voice. The dialling machines can "hear" that tone and automatically delete your number from their dialling list since the telemarketers don't want to waste time calling non-existent numbers.
Got a tip to get them off the cellphone?
@@theresahall8206 Try this: Instead of answering with "hello?" instead answer with "This is (your first name), who's calling, please?" (if you don't know the caller ID). If they're using an auto-dialler, it may mistake your long greeting for an answering service and hang up. In general, the longer your greeting is, the more likely it is to be mistaken for an answering machine by the auto-dialler.
My usual method of dealing with anyone who gets through that is to simply hang up without even talking to them, since you can usually tell that it's a telemarketer just from the way the call goes from total silence to the person speaking with more talking in the background.
Don't say your name when answering.they can use it to commit fruad.
@@starandfox601 Well, not your full name for sure. First name only should be okay unless you have a wildly unique name.
FM stealing tips needs her car keyed.
The parking Nazi needs to get with the program. But the company needs to correct signs. “Admin parking only, keys must be available to maintenance”. Or just Employees only.
On student loans. I would expect they sent a snail mail notice?
Not pronounced brooch, it’s a long o.
. . .on the last story, Karma is a beeeeech! . . . fortunately, the REAL DEAL feller was unnerstanning!
I love your comments and the way you deliver the stories. You are funny and sarcastic and I really enjoy your videos.
I like how the first story ended, those people were kind with that goose of an employee.
4 minutes in. I need a boss like this.
Yeah, I would not have been so nice. Showing up at a company and tell them how you're going to run the place. If you are not the President or CEO, no. I would have just told him, sorry, you are not a good fit for our company. Thank you, have a nice day.
In Australia student loans are only paid back once the 'student' starts working in his or her chosen field.
Never can understand why people can not be aware that a payment (for example student loan repayment) has not gone out of their account for several months. Don’t they reconcile their accounts? Don’t they wonder why they have extras money showing in their account?
This continues to be my favorite channel by far. Thank you for your wonderful delivery and stories. ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️❤❤❤❤❤❤
Yeah that’s the problem with scammers
On that fist story the GM must’ve needed that slot filled for him not the fire the know it all.
That's 1 hell...of GM, probably a good place 2 work.
R/reeeeeeee
I think the first guy just wanted to do an amazing and impressive job making the office run as perfect as possible and make a good impression, he was probably a bit distracted in thinking of what he could do and missed a bit of orientation being in his own head
*Last Story:* I fear OP was left feeling like a pretzel stick...
Yes, if I was the GM and a new employee showed up on the first day and tried telling me how to do things, that first day would be his last day.
First story, dude wouldn't have been hired.🤷🏿♀️
Always enjoy your stories far more compared to the other sites like yours!
yeah id keep a CLOSE eye on the garage nazi. he talked about everything hes gonna change.... not a safe employee
You're the best reader of any of these. If your program pretending to be human that I congratulate whoever wrote you. If on the other hand you are as I suspect, human, then I congratulate you on being both the most personable of all the readers, the one of the true sense of drama, and the ability to pronounce words correctly and emphasize the sentences properly. You appear to read through them in advance, which some of the others clearly don't.
In the second story, I would have pulled out my driver's license in front of the manager and said "Why did you just lie about me to this pompous old clown?"
A mates reaction to scammers is to ask them what they are wearing, more specifically their underwear. Male or female, doesn’t matter. Either way it apparently makes them uncomfortable enough to hang up when you ask them if they like lacy lingerie. Go figure 🧐
Augh! Complimentary tea? Never reward entitled jerks!
I would have FIRED HIM!!!
Wibbly wobbly timey wimey... Who else is a whovian?
1st story doesn’t make a whole lot of sense, as any police officer would ticket a vehicle in a no parking zone, doesn’t matter if you are an employee or owner. No parking is a city/state sign, not a private property. I get they are trying to be nice but the young man is not in the wrong for what he did.
Really enjoyed your story telling
Im so happy the first one ended so well. Poor guy honestly thought he messed up really bad lol
He did mess up really bad. He's very lucky other people caught it before it turned out even worse. Good for him for speaking up, that probably saved him.
That backstabbing sneak should have been kicked out right on his first day
I swear you sound like Kermit after puberty. Good narration
I didn't know Kermit was pre-pubertal. No wonder Miss Piggy never got any action😟
Ikr
Love this
Is it just me or do all these stories sound like the same person wrote them?
4:48
i love this person already :)
Doctor Who reference for the win!
Keep it coming, I haven't stopped laughing. Just love how stupid some people can be. I'm retired, and no longer work for customers. YEA!!!
I love all your stories. You all are the only one I subscribe to!
Did you hear about the one where somebody from the "police station" called the police captain
Someone once tried to call my house phone claiming to be a third party calling on behalf of the university I was attending about a discrepancy in my student loans. My grandmother answered the phone and told them that she knew damn well that if there was a problem, then the financial aid advisor would have asked to speak to me directly because I was already on campus.
She texted me about it and I went to my advisor straight away to inform them of what just happened and they assured me that they do not have third party companies call students for any reason. The last time the scammers called, I tore them a new one about how I wasn't stupid enough to believe their obvious bullshit and hung up.
I wish I also told them to screw off.
@@TheNekoMimiGamer: What's fun is when a call comes in, from your OWN number, and they start in with some spiel. Definitely a scammer.
@@jacklow9611 that actually happened to me twice a week for a whole year
Thank you red wheel, very cool
FM encourages bad behavior from customer and then engages in her own bad behavior. Loser.
Edit: Typo.
Yeah first story sounds fake or exaggerated. If he really did all that against a coworker on his first day, that would have been grounds for dismissal right there or risk further lawsuits caused by the knuckle head.
How do you not notice the money in your bank account didn't get taken out for TWO months?
can someone please tell me what they are going to take from you if you default on your student loans? are they going to take your diploma away? maybe the knowledge you got? its so funny listening to those because their is literally nothing they can do if you do default on your student loan.
Perhaps ruin your credit rating?
@@jacklow9611 what credit rating? either your parents pay for your college or you do and are 100k in debt from the minute you graduate. so your credit can only go up from there.
@@teacher555555: What GRADUATE? I was told to start paying mine back after only two semesters. Luckily, it wasn't that much to begin with, but I was having trouble with finding reliable employment, but I did manage to get it all paid off, a few years later.
@@jacklow9611 let me guess, you went to a community college right? nothing wrong with it, you get the same education as an ivy league school but at a much cheaper rate but also means what you said, you had to start paying for it soon after starting. ivy league schools expect you to pay it all as soon as you graduate.
@@teacher555555: No. Business school, I wouldn't go to an "Ivy league" school unless it was on a full-ride scholarship, and even then, I'd have to deeply consider if I wanted to try to be so "Hoity Toity".
a place i worked at some years ago had no dresscode at all, but then aigen a stable isent realy the best place to force a dresscode like only thing they could realy force is maybe wear shoes with a steel cap toe or something like that for safety reasons (if riding a horse it was obiously mandetory to use a riding helmet for safety reason)