The Wiking Division's Combat History (1941 - 1945) - Dutch Waffen-SS Volunteers on the Eastern Front

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  • Опубликовано: 29 окт 2024

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  • @HistoryHustle
    @HistoryHustle  3 года назад +38

    Erratum: at 9.14 - At that point it was the Knight's Cross instead of the Iron Cross.
    Dutch Waffen-SS PART I: ruclips.net/video/bQlF0ia-ABA/видео.html
    Dutch Waffen-SS PART II: ruclips.net/video/MXLjRwGGx4U/видео.html
    Dutch Waffen-SS PART III: ruclips.net/video/GhoVdnNLdfU/видео.html

    • @TomGuideKrakowPoland
      @TomGuideKrakowPoland 3 года назад +3

      Welcome

    • @PremierHistory
      @PremierHistory 3 года назад +2

      That one Swiss soldier must have felt super lonely at the start!

    • @HistoryHustle
      @HistoryHustle  3 года назад +1

      @@PremierHistory Guess so...

    • @rasmuspallesen4599
      @rasmuspallesen4599 3 года назад +1

      Can you tell me anything about the map that is hanging on your wall behind you?😁 I’ve been looking to collect something like that myself!

    • @HistoryHustle
      @HistoryHustle  3 года назад +1

      @@rasmuspallesen4599 These are school maps used in schools (not anymore since digital projection has replaced this). Can't tell you where to get maps like these.

  • @naciremasti
    @naciremasti 3 года назад +73

    Great use of multiple sources, not alot of folks show that. Keep up the good work.

  • @luxembourgishempire2826
    @luxembourgishempire2826 3 года назад +60

    Interesting video History Hustle! Keep up the great work!! 🙂

    • @shwetaseth1352
      @shwetaseth1352 3 года назад +2

      Big fan luxembourgish empire

    • @HistoryHustle
      @HistoryHustle  3 года назад +4

      Many thanks :D

    • @marcoskehl
      @marcoskehl 3 года назад +2

      @@shwetaseth1352 Me too. As well as the History Hustle. Thank you! थैंक

    • @HistoryHustle
      @HistoryHustle  3 года назад +2

      @@marcoskehl Thanks!

  • @stefanadamcik8221
    @stefanadamcik8221 Год назад +2

    Thank you for pronouncing the name of the division correctly

  • @henryschmitt7577
    @henryschmitt7577 3 года назад +26

    As a military veteran going to college my first division I studied was the 2ND SS Panzer “Das Reich” in a book called Knights of Steel by Mark Yeager. My degree is in American military history from 1600 to today! Always happy to see awesome history.

    • @HistoryHustle
      @HistoryHustle  3 года назад +5

      Thanks for your reply. Next video will be about the Dutch Volunteer Legion.

    • @LuvBorderCollies
      @LuvBorderCollies 3 года назад +7

      @@HistoryHustle Be looking forward to that video. Even though my dad's family had migrated to the US 40 years before, we still knew a lot of people in the NL when it was invaded. Specifically the stretch along the rivers from Arnhem to Utrecht.
      They loved the Germans at first, viewing them as cousins. The Germans were polite and paid for any merchandise. Many young Dutch men were attracted to the skill, discipline and dogma of a united Germania and German military which was far more exciting than the Dutch army.
      By 1944 the Germans were getting desperate for supplies and began confiscating farm products and whatever they could use. The honeymoon was over.

    • @ericheuvel7864
      @ericheuvel7864 3 года назад +5

      @@LuvBorderCollies ... the honeymoon was already over earlier. In 1941 there was a ‘huge’ strike as a protest to the measures of the occupiers and the treatment of the jews. It was the only strike in an occupied country as I understand it.

  • @marcusyong4840
    @marcusyong4840 3 года назад +22

    I love how he always reads every single comment

  • @zulubeatz1
    @zulubeatz1 Год назад +1

    Fantastic overview of a contention filled subject. This series of videos is a must watch for people who want to learn about these soldiers from a complicated time.

  • @TheVideoNorm
    @TheVideoNorm 2 года назад +2

    The added color and focus you provide is very much appreciated. It's amazing how nuanced people's motives were to fight on behalf of the Germans and your personal connections and diary excerpts are invaluable. Bedankt!

  • @Bigsky1991
    @Bigsky1991 2 года назад +3

    I have a head to toe "WESTLAND" Dutch Oberscharführer combat ensemble from the plane tree helmet cover to the Leder/filzstiefel, M43 Heeres schnitt Jacke, 44' Pea Patten winterhosen , Totale kampfausrüstung, ALLES from a Dutch Veteran. He was injured in late 44' on Fronturlaub from the Ostfront during a tiefflieger attack on the Dutch/Belgian border. I've owned well over 300 SS uniforms over the years but this ensemble was the most intact and complete. All awards included. WIKING had a very storied history on the Ostfront with horrific losses.

  • @PanzerdivisionWiking
    @PanzerdivisionWiking 3 года назад +5

    Absolutely look forward to your uploads Stefan!

  • @Enthousiasper
    @Enthousiasper 3 года назад +8

    Interesting video dude! Love it how the memoires bring your story alive! 👍🏻

  • @jackinix5145
    @jackinix5145 Год назад +1

    Always find your videos interesting .about things not normally takes about .
    Thank you for what have learned

  • @ZeAngrySnowmongol
    @ZeAngrySnowmongol 3 года назад +17

    One correction tho, 5.SS Wiking did consist Finns already when Barbarassa broke out. 400ish out of total 1200ish men that had combat experience were most immidietly transferred in other units of Wiking division. Rest 900 formed the Finnisches Freiwillige Battalion wich went for training.
    But back to the 400 men. They were most indeed trassferred straight to other units of the division (they came with first patch of Finnish volunteers in first week of june of 41), some got only week long training of German weaponary and commands, and I also ad, most didn't speak German. These men were called "Divisioonan Miehet= Men of the Division" and the rest 900 that formed Finnish battalion were called "Pataljoonan Pojat= The boy battallion". Some saw this as one form of illtreatment from germans toward finns. Cos Finns were promised to be kept as one group, but 400 extra combat experienced troops just before Barbarossa started seemed to be more important to Germans. Tho I have to ad, not all of the 400 went in combat when Barbarossa broke out, numbers are up to debate they are more like suggestions, numbers wary around 50-200men, so truth is hard to say.
    There were already talk of Germans treachery and lack of intrest to keep any promises. Like men with combat experience and officer and NCO ranks were promised to get equal ones, but most got one or two lower or none and didn't get command suitable for the rank. This bred more unsatisfaction among the men.
    Anyway. Most of "Men of Division" were transferred to Finnisches Freiwillige battallion of 5.SS Reg Nordland (forming its 3rd battallion) after it was trained and moved to front, but according to some sources not all did transfer.
    Summa summarum: So some finns were part of Wikings units when Barbarossa started in late june. Small things just wanted to point it out.
    Sources: Mauno Jokipii "Panttipataljoona", and many others (That book i mentioned, is basically the largest and most covering book of the unit, it uses lots of memoirs, interviews, german and finnish documentation etc. Its the pillarstone when Finnish Waffen SS is in guestion. Tho lately it has gotten some controversy cos it didn't include anything about if Finns were involved in warcrimes. But is totally other debate)

    • @setoste
      @setoste 3 года назад +3

      About the panttipataljoona and alledged war crimes: There really isn't that much physical hard evidence to prove them beyond any reasonable doubt.

    • @ZeAngrySnowmongol
      @ZeAngrySnowmongol 3 года назад +2

      @@setoste Yeh thats what I'm referring. There is lots of "ifs and buts" but nothing solid

    • @HistoryHustle
      @HistoryHustle  3 года назад +2

      This was stated in the book VELDGRAUW (Evertjan van Roekel). Henrik Meinander wrote in his article in the book JOINING HITLER'S CRUSADE:
      "In the end, the two parties reached a compromise. A little over 400 of the 1,400 Finnish SS soldiers were sent to various units of the multi-European Wiking Division, which fought its whole war on the eastern front, whereas the rest of the Finns formed a separate Finnish battalion within the Wiking division. The oath dilemma was also resolved smoothly: foreign SS soldiers would swear their loyalty to ‘the Leader of the Great- Germanic Community’. Mobilization began in May 1941, with the last Finnish SS soldiers reaching their training camps in Central Europe less than a week before Operation Barbarossa began."
      (page 33-34).
      I don't assume these men were sent to the front straight away with only twee weeks of training. If so, I stand corrected.

    • @JoriMikke78
      @JoriMikke78 3 года назад +2

      @@setoste The book "Hakaristin Ritarit" paints a very different picture about the volunteers - and it includes personal notes about war crimes too.

    • @JoriMikke78
      @JoriMikke78 3 года назад +1

      @@ZeAngrySnowmongol Nope, no ifs and buts, there are their own records of those crimes.

  • @hihih5h5
    @hihih5h5 3 года назад +7

    Thanks for the interesting video again. The more you study about ww2 the more you have to learn. I really appreciate all your work to help people with more detailed history. Do you planning on making videos about POWs as well? Keep up with the good work! Greetings from South Korea

    • @henrikhilskov
      @henrikhilskov 3 года назад +1

      I copy you on that. Not many videos about that. But a very new one bring the myth down that said that there were high deathrate of german POW in russian. If you take out the POWs of Stalingrad the deathrate would be the same as for the german pows in US and GB. And most agree that the PoWs of Stalingrad was so sick of starvation that they would had died even if the german had succes in breaking the encircelement.

    • @HistoryHustle
      @HistoryHustle  3 года назад +2

      Hope to cover more about POWs in the future. There's an interesting video on that by TIK:
      ruclips.net/video/rS_59PHhO4M/видео.html

    • @henrikhilskov
      @henrikhilskov 3 года назад

      @@HistoryHustle Yes TIK is fantastic. Just sad it is hard to find anything about him on the internet, so hard to discuss his point of view with professors in history here in Denmark. I remember him saying he actual have an university degree in history.

  • @tonnywildweasel8138
    @tonnywildweasel8138 3 года назад +15

    Interesting story. Again well told too!
    Greets, T.

  • @derhansl7666
    @derhansl7666 3 года назад +7

    This was awesome, Do some other units such as the Baltic SS Divisions (most awarded Units of the SS!!!)

    • @HistoryHustle
      @HistoryHustle  3 года назад +2

      Not on my to-do-soon list but sure one day.

    • @derhansl7666
      @derhansl7666 3 года назад

      @@HistoryHustle if not in this way then
      Please
      Please
      Please
      Please
      Please
      :)

  • @Extirpo
    @Extirpo 2 года назад +1

    Thx mate. Nice overview, and also important: no brown tinted glasses that often dominates the subject on YT.

  • @Tronipule
    @Tronipule 3 года назад +1

    Thank you so much for these classes

  • @vonsprague7913
    @vonsprague7913 3 года назад +2

    Very interesting film. A difficult subject to cover without making it look like it's supporting their actions but you achieved it very well, I look forward to your future videos. Thank you

    • @HistoryHustle
      @HistoryHustle  3 года назад +1

      Thanks. Have you seen the previous ones also?

    • @vonsprague7913
      @vonsprague7913 3 года назад

      @@HistoryHustle oh mate I'm watching them all. I love your take on the subject and the crazy Dutch accent. My history teacher was an inspiration at school and I never lost the love of the subject.

    • @HistoryHustle
      @HistoryHustle  3 года назад +1

      Great 👌

  • @toriidawdy8456
    @toriidawdy8456 2 года назад

    As always great topics sourced if more details are desired . Accessible but true to the great ideals of good history . .thanks again!

  • @AwesomeDude272
    @AwesomeDude272 3 года назад +7

    Much respect to those Netherlandic fighters... You proved yourself in every possible way. Greetings from Austria

    • @HistoryHustle
      @HistoryHustle  3 года назад +3

      Yeah... you come across as someone who glorifies the Third Reich. I'm not fond of that...

    • @AwesomeDude272
      @AwesomeDude272 3 года назад +8

      @@HistoryHustle I'm not glorifying NS of course. I like the common struggle of Europeans against communism.

    • @HistoryHustle
      @HistoryHustle  3 года назад +1

      I see.

    • @hallodaar8702
      @hallodaar8702 3 года назад

      "You proved yourself in every possible way"...... Like in killing of thousands of unarmed men, women, children, mentally disabled etc??? Or did you mean something else? These people do not deserve respect, they deserve a rope around their necks. Greetings from the Netherlands.

  • @t.jjohnson6317
    @t.jjohnson6317 3 года назад +3

    Another great vid.. Thank-you sir👍

  • @mikewest5529
    @mikewest5529 3 года назад +12

    Ohh what a great video! No hero’s in war that’s for sure. Only men trying to save their friends and survive them selves.
    War crimes are committed on both sides.
    Only the winners decide.
    But an amazing production as always!!

    • @HistoryHustle
      @HistoryHustle  3 года назад

      Thanks for your reply. I do have to note that some sides committed more war crimes than others. Western Allies far less than the Axis.

    • @mikewest5529
      @mikewest5529 3 года назад

      @@HistoryHustle
      It’s an eye for an eye and the whole world will go blind!
      Yep it’s just important to point out that both sides did some dirty work.
      It’s hard to keep a street fight clean!

    • @caryblack5985
      @caryblack5985 3 года назад

      The Nazi started out dirty sgot dirtier and stayed dirtier ruclips.net/video/EEraxud7vZ4/видео.html

  • @browngreen933
    @browngreen933 3 месяца назад +1

    The parallels between then and now in Ukraine are amazing!

    • @HistoryHustle
      @HistoryHustle  3 месяца назад

      @@browngreen933 please explain.

    • @Paul-v9l5m
      @Paul-v9l5m Месяц назад

      ​@@HistoryHustle defending the free Europe.. 👍

  • @COACHWARBLE
    @COACHWARBLE 2 года назад +1

    Great video!!

  • @MyLateralThawts
    @MyLateralThawts 3 года назад +9

    This is the first video I came across that mentioned the massacre of prisoners by the retreating Soviets in 1941. To me this was a significant occurrence, as it motivated the Nazis and their allies and was used to recruit locals to their cause. Nazis subsequently used Soviet atrocities as the excuse to escalate their own terror campaigns. This is a part of history that deserves more attention.

    • @voshche
      @voshche 3 года назад +1

      author've forgotten to mention of fact that Russians didn't capture the SS officers and soldiers. Russians just finished them off immediately . It was due to all atrocities what they did for civilian people.

    • @MyLateralThawts
      @MyLateralThawts 3 года назад +3

      @@voshche Actually, Red Army was really intent on capturing SS soldiers, but rarely did in the early years of the war. Atrocities by the SS only became known after about the first month of Barbarossa, and that was usually the Einsatzgruppen, with the civilians in the area tending to help the SS round up Soviet sympathizers.

    • @voshche
      @voshche 3 года назад +2

      @@MyLateralThawts Members of the Waffen-SS were involved in numerous atrocities.[12] At the post-war Nuremberg Trials, the Waffen-SS was judged to be a criminal organisation due to its connection to the Nazi Party and direct involvement in numerous war crimes and crimes against humanity.

    • @MyLateralThawts
      @MyLateralThawts 3 года назад +3

      @@voshche you’re getting the timeline confused. Operation Barbarossa began on June 22 1941. No Soviet soldiers had encountered any SS troops prior to that date. In the following months, as the reputation of both the Waffen SS and that of the separate Einsatzgruppen (who did wear nearly identical uniforms, save for the “SD” badge they had on their sleeve) grew to be ruthless in carrying out their assigned tasks. The Soviet forces had already by this point engaged in atrocities against the various local nations recently conquered by the Red Army (Eastern Poland, Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia) as well as atrocities against the Ukrainians, the Kulaks or indeed anyone deemed a threat to the revolution. Let me make this clear, the Soviets early in Barbarossa had never encountered the SS before, so they thought them no different from any other German formation. It was only after a month or more of combat that their reputation grew and only then did they engage in battles in which no quarter was given. However, Soviet troops had long before already engaged in war crimes (see Katyn Massacre, something Putin himself agreed took place, before the first German soldiers even set foot on Soviet territory).

    • @voshche
      @voshche 3 года назад

      @@MyLateralThawts you will tell me about atrocities 😁. I've heard plenty stories from my relatives, and if take into consideration the casualties civilian population --14 million . Thats getting clear of great mission SS divisions to genocide Slav folks.

  • @JanJohanssonmusic
    @JanJohanssonmusic Год назад +2

    Great program

  • @rowanhunter2157
    @rowanhunter2157 3 года назад +2

    I've been waiting for this....big thumb up

  • @DRFelGood
    @DRFelGood 3 года назад +2

    Excellent Research Thank You for sharing 👍👍👍👍👍👍

  • @TomGuideKrakowPoland
    @TomGuideKrakowPoland 3 года назад +12

    130👍🏻 Top interesting, thank you Stefan🤗🌏

  • @marcelgroen6256
    @marcelgroen6256 3 года назад

    Tanks for sharing again, Stefan ...

  • @kmrose
    @kmrose 3 года назад +1

    I stumbled across your channel. I'm glad I did! I just subscribed and will checking out your other videos. I learned something new. Thanks!

    • @HistoryHustle
      @HistoryHustle  3 года назад +2

      Great, thanks for your reply, Kristi. What history are you most interested in?

    • @kmrose
      @kmrose 3 года назад +1

      @@HistoryHustle Right now, it's learning all I can about the two World Wars. My great grandfather frought in France in the first one and my grandpa, his son , frought in the Italian campaign into Germany on the second. I want to understand all I can about their world. My mom and I are waiting for their service records from the US government.

    • @HistoryHustle
      @HistoryHustle  3 года назад

      Thanks for sharing. I do have playlists about WW1 and WW2.
      This one you might find interesting:
      ruclips.net/video/wSRVNRZfswM/видео.html

  • @oveidasinclair982
    @oveidasinclair982 3 года назад +1

    Great video as usual

  • @cthrly
    @cthrly 3 года назад +14

    Would you ever make a video about the Hlinka Guard or just fascist Slovakia overall?

    • @HistoryHustle
      @HistoryHustle  3 года назад +6

      Perhaps one day. Love to cover Slovakian history on location.

  • @toroleulleberg5422
    @toroleulleberg5422 3 года назад +4

    Very interesting, I have red a lot about Wiking and the norwegian volunteers, , greetings from Norway

  • @pcmmulders
    @pcmmulders 3 года назад

    Interessant om beelden te zien bij het boek. Ik ben Veldgrauw aan het lezen en het boek van Kistemaker wordt het volgende boek. Bedankt en ik kijk uit naar het deel over Wiking en de oorlogsmisdaden. (het boek gaf me koude rillingen).

    • @HistoryHustle
      @HistoryHustle  3 года назад +1

      Zeker interessante boeken, dank voor je bericht!

  • @mikeytoddure6382
    @mikeytoddure6382 3 года назад +1

    Thanks for a great informative video👍

  • @davidraper5798
    @davidraper5798 Год назад +1

    Interesting and appalling, as ever. I have heard of the SS Viking Division but knew very little about it until now. Thankyou.

  • @GildedShame
    @GildedShame 2 года назад

    Very interesting content! Thank you 🙂

  • @TimDutch
    @TimDutch 3 года назад +3

    Netjes in elkaar gezet. Altijd handig om mijn geheugen op deze manier op te frissen :)

  • @piavigdalsgaard2230
    @piavigdalsgaard2230 3 года назад

    I like your work. BR From CPH Airport. You do a good work. Keep rolling. It's good storys

  • @MrHeidiHigh
    @MrHeidiHigh 3 года назад +6

    Een Nederlandse historicus vertelt ons Duitsers onze geschiedenis beter dan welke Duitse professor dan ook. Erg bedankt werter Herr 👍
    Grüße aus Hessen

  • @Adonnus100
    @Adonnus100 3 года назад +2

    My great uncle, from a place near Venlo, joined the division in 1944 aged about 19. I don't know what he was thinking, it was so late in the war it was clearly pointless. He was wounded a few months later in battle and died in a hospital shortly thereafter.

    • @HistoryHustle
      @HistoryHustle  3 года назад +1

      Thanks for sharing.

    • @NuclearCow100
      @NuclearCow100 3 года назад +1

      He may have know my grandfather who was part of the artillery unit. He was the one who telescopically measured the distance for the 88mm cannons. He said they had 18 of them. He was 17 1/2 when he joined.

    • @sonjafrahm708
      @sonjafrahm708 Год назад +2

      it's called commitment, something today's youth lacks

  • @mammuchan8923
    @mammuchan8923 3 года назад +9

    Always hustling history in the most interesting way for us, keep up the good work. It is worthwhile to remind the viewers as you did that these men were not heroes and did partake in war crimes.

    • @HistoryHustle
      @HistoryHustle  3 года назад +1

      Many thanks as always!

    • @Albert-Arthur-Wison225
      @Albert-Arthur-Wison225 3 года назад

      Very well put !!!

    • @djharto4917
      @djharto4917 3 года назад +3

      War makes its own rules. It’s worth noting that Stalin committed worse crimes than Hitler.

  • @caslinden1373
    @caslinden1373 3 года назад +2

    Weer een mooie video man 👍🇳🇱

  • @Guadalajara1937
    @Guadalajara1937 3 года назад +2

    Very nice?
    Do you plan on covering the NKFD (germans collaborating with the soviets) in the future?

  • @hansandhismp-4033
    @hansandhismp-4033 3 года назад +1

    Great video as always! But where can I get the thumbnail?

    • @HistoryHustle
      @HistoryHustle  3 года назад

      The photo of the poster is on Wikipedia.

  • @RickJZ1973
    @RickJZ1973 3 года назад +10

    Very interesting and informative presentation! How were the Dutch SS volunteers treated/ viewed after the end of the war once they returned back to their homes?

    • @HistoryHustle
      @HistoryHustle  3 года назад +5

      Bad and in the future more on that. Thanks for your reply.

    • @dickvansteijn4115
      @dickvansteijn4115 3 года назад +9

      Mijn oma heeft haar meisjesachternaam weer aangenomen na te zijn kaalgeschoren, geslagen én verkracht door "mannen" van de BS. Mijn opa is gesneuveld in 1944 in Rusland als Waffen SS Unterscharführer tijdens gevechten om Narva. Ik word altijd onpasselijk als ik die in blauwe overall,s met Oranje armband en stengun verkleedde gasten zie staan op de Waaldorpse vlakte. Nederland heeft kilo,s boter op het hoofd. Prins Bernhard was lid van de SS én de NSDAP, werd op het schild gehesen als held van het verzet dat er amper was en wat er was waren communisten. De veteranen die wél terugkwamen zijn behandeld als beesten, geslagen gemarteld en vermoord. Ach voor enkelen nog terecht óók. Een bizar stuk geschiedenis waar zorgvuldig over gezwegen wordt.

    • @MrSebs2010
      @MrSebs2010 3 года назад +4

      @@dickvansteijn4115 Ssssst.. Dat mag je niet zeggen! Dat is publiek geheim... Je mag natuurlijk het sprookje niet kapot maken dat zo'n beetje iedereen zijn opa in het verzet zat.
      En het koningshuis moet wel beschermd blijven natuurlijk. Je Maintiendrai!

    • @thedrowned5066
      @thedrowned5066 3 года назад +1

      @@dickvansteijn4115 respect voor je grootouders

    • @thedrowned5066
      @thedrowned5066 3 года назад +2

      H. Hitler? You're afraid to say Heil Hitler? What the fuck.

  • @nerf.zombiemikula1394
    @nerf.zombiemikula1394 3 года назад +2

    I hope you'll do a video about Slovakia one day, even if it was only about Slovak National Uprising it would still be amazing if you did only that.

    • @HistoryHustle
      @HistoryHustle  3 года назад +1

      One day yes. Maybe this Summer if I can travel to Slovakia, but I really have to see what's possible. Slovakia is still very underrepresented on this channel (heck, on many channels!) but I will change that. Not today or tomorrow, but in the future I will.

  • @robertm.8653
    @robertm.8653 3 года назад +4

    Your presentation was very well made and wonderfully detailed!
    Thank you for noting the prowess of these men, even if they committed awful deeds as well.
    Have a great day.

  • @bradleybriscoe2608
    @bradleybriscoe2608 3 года назад +2

    Fun fact: Joseph Mengele served with the 5th SS-Panzer Division 'Wiking' on the Eastern Front as a Battalion medical officer. In 1942, Mengele was awarded the Iron Cross 1st class, Wound Badge in black and was appointed to the rank of SS-Hauptsturmführer for saving two German soldiers from a burning tank. Afterwards, he was appointed to Auschwitz-Birchenau concentration camp as a Camp Physician.

    • @HistoryHustle
      @HistoryHustle  3 года назад +1

      I read that too. Thanks for sharing.

    • @stoggafllik
      @stoggafllik Год назад

      Another fun fact: Leon Degrelle was one of the soldiers Doctor Mengele saved

    • @vidcaf8613
      @vidcaf8613 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@stoggafllik Source?

    • @stoggafllik
      @stoggafllik 10 месяцев назад

      @@vidcaf8613 Memoirs on the eastern front Leon degrelle

  • @JB-rt4mx
    @JB-rt4mx 3 года назад

    Excellent Content...Prost !!

  • @michaelschmitz4919
    @michaelschmitz4919 3 года назад +3

    Another great and informative video keep it up man.

  • @aloiseaux767
    @aloiseaux767 3 года назад +1

    Ik hou echt niet van het politieke praatje op het einde, je maakt een educatief filmpje, je hoeft jezelf niet te verontschuldigen of te verdedigen.
    Ik snap het wel, en vind dan eigenlijk ook dat diegenen die hier een verkeerd beeld van krijgen zichzelf goed achter de oren moeten krabben.

    • @HistoryHustle
      @HistoryHustle  3 года назад

      Dank voor je bericht. Reden hiervoor is simpel: veel mensen zien deze strijders als helden. Anderen gooien het weer over een andere boeg door te beweren dat ik het voor ze opneem. Geenszins het geval. Overigens, ik denk dat je deze video ook wel interessant gaat vinden:
      ruclips.net/video/tjlzvbrH76k/видео.html

    • @aloiseaux767
      @aloiseaux767 3 года назад

      @@HistoryHustle Je hebt inderdaad gelijk, gelukkig vinden we beiden dat geschiedenis vanuit een neutraal oogpunt benaderd moet worden. Ik ga de video kijken!

  • @floro7687
    @floro7687 3 года назад +2

    In the sixties I worked in a remote location with a man who had spent about 3 years in the 5th. The Soviets were better equipped, better supplied and better led, he claimed. The Germans had a superior training. Time and again they fell back, creating new positions and were totally exhausted, only to be told the enemy tanks were 25 km past them. So it was abandoning heavy equipement and flee. This was the rule. And, they saw Wochenschau propaganda where it was always said: "Die Luftwaffe ist auch dabei" but nobody had seen a German plane in weeks.

  • @Hugo-vz3eu
    @Hugo-vz3eu 3 года назад +1

    love your content man!! I wish I had a history professor like this

  • @mikehydropneumatic2583
    @mikehydropneumatic2583 3 года назад +5

    Great research by using multiple sources.
    Have a nice weekend.

  • @nikkibaugher2427
    @nikkibaugher2427 3 года назад +2

    Thank you Professor. You are keeping the light on. :-)

    • @HistoryHustle
      @HistoryHustle  3 года назад

      Thank you, Nikki.

    • @henrikhilskov
      @henrikhilskov 3 года назад

      @@HistoryHustle Are you a professor?

    • @HistoryHustle
      @HistoryHustle  3 года назад +1

      High school teacher :)

    • @nikkibaugher2427
      @nikkibaugher2427 3 года назад

      @@HistoryHustle to me you are a Professor

    • @henrikhilskov
      @henrikhilskov 3 года назад

      @@HistoryHustle Still great work you are doing. I remember my high School teachers in history were noone had volunteered for the job.

  • @scrwbl8
    @scrwbl8 3 года назад +3

    You cannot judge about any of their actions, unless you lived in that time in history.

    • @HistoryHustle
      @HistoryHustle  3 года назад +1

      That argument doesn't make any sense. In that way we can never condamn the perpetrated horrors from the past, only because we weren't alive at that time.

  • @stevelobstein3195
    @stevelobstein3195 3 года назад +5

    I like the interactive map

  • @ThePanzer6
    @ThePanzer6 3 года назад

    Good Video

  • @zulubeatz1
    @zulubeatz1 3 года назад +1

    Some great original photographs and material makes this series one of the best I've seen on this subject. However the heroic status of individuals is hard to judge. You could argue that it is individual conduct that defines a hero not the organisation or country he fought for? I'm not sure it is for us to decide.

    • @HistoryHustle
      @HistoryHustle  3 года назад +1

      Thanks for your reply. I did make this disclaimer to distance myself from neo Nazis and revisionists.

    • @zulubeatz1
      @zulubeatz1 3 года назад

      @@HistoryHustle I thought that actually fair enough.

  • @sgtboz9730
    @sgtboz9730 3 года назад +2

    Great video. Question. How long was the initial training of this, and other foreign SS formations before they were ready to be fielded?

    • @HistoryHustle
      @HistoryHustle  3 года назад +1

      Thanks. More on your question here:
      ruclips.net/video/GhoVdnNLdfU/видео.html

    • @sgtboz9730
      @sgtboz9730 3 года назад

      Thank you. I just subbed.

    • @HistoryHustle
      @HistoryHustle  3 года назад

      👍

  • @inpersonaDK
    @inpersonaDK 2 года назад +1

    These men was brave soldiers!

  • @kennykomodo2576
    @kennykomodo2576 3 года назад +1

    The actual photo's of the period are what makes these video's so much more interesting. I wonder how many of those volunteers either Dutch, Swiss, Norwegians or whatever were truly committed to "National Socialism" or were just swept up in the moment. As for the Finns my understanding is that Finnish volunteers joined up mainly in order to be able to fight the Communists who had taken much Finnish territory during the Winter War. I don't recall reading any instances of Finnish troops participating in war crimes.

    • @HistoryHustle
      @HistoryHustle  3 года назад

      Thanks for your reply. I actually did read about Finnish war crimes. These were the first Finnish volunteers that served in the Wiking Division (these were mostly pro-Nazi). Basically what I cover in this video also applied to them. But on the Finnish Front with the draftees it was a different story.

  • @theculturedthug6609
    @theculturedthug6609 3 года назад +11

    They were hero's fighting world Bolshevikism to the end!!!

    • @HistoryHustle
      @HistoryHustle  3 года назад +2

      Another partisan comment.

    • @electronicgrinsch
      @electronicgrinsch 3 года назад +3

      @@HistoryHustle It is more of a factual statement than a partisan comment. He seems to appreciate the sacrifice his ancestors made to live without the bolshevik yoke.

    • @HistoryHustle
      @HistoryHustle  3 года назад +1

      Point being, they didn't contribute to it.

    • @dickvansteijn4115
      @dickvansteijn4115 3 года назад

      @@HistoryHustle I think there is more in this story then a lot of people want to know. To my utter amazement the first time I read about Operation Barbarossa was a preemptive strike was a Russian military historian.

    • @vchk5330
      @vchk5330 3 года назад +2

      @@electronicgrinsch I'm willing the appreciate the sacrifice of great Communist and anti Fascist fighters who removed the Nazi scourge from Europe.

  • @bigrobnz
    @bigrobnz 3 года назад +6

    the exploits of these guys would make a great movie.....they fought hard and were loyal to the end and that deserves recognition......

    • @HistoryHustle
      @HistoryHustle  3 года назад

      A movie would be interesting

    • @jolldoes1515
      @jolldoes1515 3 года назад +2

      Which recognition is deserved when so many atrocities was committed . You probably would have enrolled living in that era .But yes they were good fighters who fought for the wrong ideology while their front man committed suicide leaving that stain on Germany for the next 1000 years .

  • @jlk6315
    @jlk6315 3 года назад +2

    This al came closer to me then i ever expected when i found out a brother of my grandfather joined the Waffen SS and probably this Wiking division in 1944. Now trying to find his persecution files of the ‘bijzondere rechtspleging’ in the National archives of the Netherlands.

    • @HistoryHustle
      @HistoryHustle  3 года назад +1

      Interesting. Did you ever meet this man and talked about his experiences?

    • @jlk6315
      @jlk6315 3 года назад +2

      @@HistoryHustle no i was to young when he passed away and it was a family secret, my parents knew he was convicted but thought it was only for something small like black-market. We think nobody in the family alive today knows about it. We found out about it trough a file send to us passed week. In which Its stated he “fought for the Waffen SS from may 44 till 9 may 45” the place Stublau is Also mentioned, we hope to find more details in the persecution files (CABR)

    • @jlk6315
      @jlk6315 3 года назад +2

      @@HistoryHustle he had a alcohol problem so Its possible he had a trauma about his experiences there.

    • @HistoryHustle
      @HistoryHustle  3 года назад +2

      I can understand. Thanks for sharing this.

  • @tjo4087
    @tjo4087 3 года назад +1

    Man! Your videos are fantastic!

  • @tonys8243
    @tonys8243 3 года назад +3

    Love the Dutch ... all I've known are as good as the best people in the world.

    • @HistoryHustle
      @HistoryHustle  3 года назад +4

      Not all I'd say, but thanks.

    • @dickvansteijn4115
      @dickvansteijn4115 3 года назад +2

      Hé. "If it ain,t Dutch, it ain,t much" thanks but we are only human and make a lot of stupid mistakes in a nice way?

    • @stoggafllik
      @stoggafllik Год назад

      ​@@HistoryHustleHaha yes. Those who are Dutch in Nationality but Muslim in religion..

  • @carter6390
    @carter6390 3 года назад +3

    Great video

  • @oomgawie9175
    @oomgawie9175 2 года назад

    Great stuff I have been to Limburg

  • @jamesbodnarchuk3322
    @jamesbodnarchuk3322 3 года назад +2

    All respect to the Netherlands during the second world war.❤️🇨🇦

  • @gravityskeptic8697
    @gravityskeptic8697 3 года назад +1

    Still a very sensitive topic here in the Netherlands. As a result, the commission that wrote the official history of the Netherlands during WW2, kept most of the details out of it.
    Thanks to German records, we now know that at one stage 21.000 Dutchmen recieved pay through the SS Paymaster General. Next step is that historians acknowledge that the Wiking division was reorganized and fought in the battle of Arnhem.
    I know from a man who served with the SS. Official history is that they reorganized in Poland, and were never to be heard of again in official orders of Battle. Dutch official history does recognise that the majority of SS Wiking members were in Rotterdam at the end of the war.
    Having tough battle hardened SS units beating crack British and Polish paratroopers is also a far more likely scenario than the official history. This states that crack paratroopers were beaten by a rag-tag army of AA gunners, river police, cooks and medics. Imho this is an insult to the heroes that dropped near Arnhem.
    Btw: I am not a Nazi, nor a fascist. I think it's important to learn from history, which will not happen if you lie about it.

    • @HistoryHustle
      @HistoryHustle  3 года назад +1

      Think you're gravely misinformed. Wiking wasn't at Arnhem. Dutch SS-volunteers were, but these served in Landstorm Nederland. Some of its officers were Dutch Eastern Front veterans who might have served in Wiking ór the Dutch Volunteer Legion. Apart of that, the Wiking Division itself wasn't there.

    • @gravityskeptic8697
      @gravityskeptic8697 3 года назад

      @@HistoryHustle I did some additional digging, and you are right, no Wiking at Arnhem.
      However, I am still convinced that there were other Dutch SS units than Landstorm at Arnhem, definitely SS and definitely units with East-front experience.

  • @thepokum8963
    @thepokum8963 3 года назад

    my grandpa was a part of that division, fun to learn about it 🙃

    • @HistoryHustle
      @HistoryHustle  3 года назад

      Thanks for sharing. Ever spoken to him about his experiences?

  • @harrywalker1621
    @harrywalker1621 3 года назад

    My friend grandad was in the division fought in the French foreign legion in Indochina fought all the way till he died in Cyprus

    • @HistoryHustle
      @HistoryHustle  3 года назад

      Interesting to read, thanks for sharing.

  • @ivanzajec5291
    @ivanzajec5291 6 месяцев назад

    I have a Question did the Foreign Volunteers of the SS Wiking did wear SS Sleeve Patches for Example the Flemish one?

  • @tankace653
    @tankace653 3 года назад

    I have an illustrated book on this division! Really nice! Well put together plenty of pictures of the commanders, troops and their equipment! Great video!

  • @jarikinnunen1718
    @jarikinnunen1718 3 года назад +1

    Their interest in the northern peoples is explained by the belief that the Aryans came from Karelia (east of Finland). They did cultural research there just before the war. It has been made into a book by Himmler's (SS-leader) kantele player. In English?
    Karelia also has its roots in Finnish mythology. Called the Kalevala.

  • @krisfrederick5001
    @krisfrederick5001 3 года назад

    "Are you crying? There's no crying in Barbarossa" ~ 06:35

  • @Savabo
    @Savabo 3 года назад +1

    My grandfather's brother served in westland. He was told he would get a police education in germany by a recruiter and sent to munich where he was trained en eventually placed in the waffen-ss. he served untill Uman where he was wounded and sent to austria to recover and then back to the Netherlands to work as a police instructor at the schalkhaar police school. he was awarded the iron cross, black wounded badge and the infrantry assault badge. in early 44 he was recruited by the SD and later fought in a penal battalion till the end of the war. The americans released him and sent him back home and in 1946 he was arrested in the hague, the netherlands and served long sentences till 63 for treason and other crimes.

    • @HistoryHustle
      @HistoryHustle  3 года назад

      Thanks for your reply. Did you ever meet him and speak about his experiences? How did he reflect on the war after it?

    • @Savabo
      @Savabo 3 года назад

      @@HistoryHustle It was kept secret, not even their sons and daughters knew, I found out accidentally by looking in old news papers from 1945/46, there were multiple articles describing him and that he was wanted. I have known him but he passed in 2002 before i found out. His son told me his dad mentioning that he went bald because he wore a helmet during the war, just not that it was a german helmet. My grandfather served in the Landstorm division near Arnhem, transfering from the jeugdstorm to the SS when he turned 17 in 1944, he eventually surrendered to the Americans aswell, spending a year in a pow camp, He never spoke about the war, just that he hated it and that he worked at a farm in germany, everything i know comes from files from the national archives in the hague and germany.

    • @HistoryHustle
      @HistoryHustle  3 года назад

      Very interesting. Thank you for taking the time to write this down!

  • @fern8580
    @fern8580 3 года назад

    to point out that Dutch Waffen-SS Volunteers (like French Waffen volunteers) had an employment contract, with salary,
    they benefited between 1946 and 2021 from their rights accumulated at retirement between 1940 and 1945! with the complicity of their administration ...

    • @HistoryHustle
      @HistoryHustle  3 года назад

      Not sure what you're trying to point out.

  • @Groovy_Bruce
    @Groovy_Bruce 3 года назад +1

    Viking was mentioned in a book I just read Sniper On The Eastern Front. Pretty sure he said they basically got wiped out. Guess I’ll see how it goes with this video/

    • @Groovy_Bruce
      @Groovy_Bruce 3 года назад

      8 thousand die at Budapest and how many for the Ardennes? Some of these guys are Pretty lucky to have survived that outfit.

    • @HistoryHustle
      @HistoryHustle  3 года назад

      Indeed. I appreciate you take the time to watch and comment. Great!

    • @HistoryHustle
      @HistoryHustle  3 года назад

      For the Ardennes I didn't have exact numbers, sorry!

    • @Groovy_Bruce
      @Groovy_Bruce 3 года назад

      @@HistoryHustle I appreciate you taking the time to reply to viewers. I feel like learning about word war 2 never ends. I’ve been watching and reading about it since I was a little kid, and I still learn totally new things. It’s crazy.
      Thanks for the Videos, I look forward to continued content.

    • @HistoryHustle
      @HistoryHustle  3 года назад

      👍

  • @reikomi
    @reikomi 3 года назад +9

    The swiss and the swedish dudes be like : Anyone can speak swiss/swedish??
    Guess i'm alone here

    • @coreylevine3856
      @coreylevine3856 3 года назад +2

      The Nazi believe everybody are Germanic no matter what countries they from

    • @reikomi
      @reikomi 3 года назад

      @@coreylevine3856 except the swiss...

    • @fm1668
      @fm1668 3 года назад

      @@reikomi Swiss mostly speak German.

    • @reikomi
      @reikomi 3 года назад

      @@fm1668 kinda german, but that wasn't my point
      H. Didn't like the swiss

    • @HistoryHustle
      @HistoryHustle  3 года назад +1

      I see...

  • @briantarigan7685
    @briantarigan7685 3 года назад +2

    As an indonesian, i hear that a lot of these man are being deployed in indonesia during the independence war to "redeem" themself, is that true? Like the video though, very comprehensive and detailed, kudos to you for that.

    • @dickvansteijn4115
      @dickvansteijn4115 3 года назад +2

      Yes it is. A lot of Dutch Waffen SS veterans fought in Indonesia during the "Politionele Acties" not only to redeem themselves but also because they had actual combat experience, the rest of the Dutch Army were amateurs hiding behind their backs and shitting their pants while fighting in the jungle
      During the trip to Indonesia per schip these veterans were mocked and beaten. "Just you wait" a lot of them warned.

    • @lebronjames6267
      @lebronjames6267 3 года назад +2

      Probably true...many former Wehrmacht and SS men couldn't return home for many reasons including the fact that their homes were now in Communist control. ....its a little known fact that many of the French forces who fought in what became known as Vietnam were ex Wehrmacht. ....

    • @HistoryHustle
      @HistoryHustle  3 года назад +2

      @Brian: more on that in the future.

    • @dickvansteijn4115
      @dickvansteijn4115 3 года назад

      @@lebronjames6267 At Dien Bien Phu most foreign Legion soldriers were former German Fallschirmjäger.

    • @lebronjames6267
      @lebronjames6267 3 года назад +1

      @@dickvansteijn4115 interesting. .. i had read that many were former SS both German and volksdeutsch who were unwelcome in their former home countries and were eagerly recruited by the French Foreign legion to try to subdue the restive Viet Cong of Ho Chi Minh......

  • @shouryajitbhattacharya2900
    @shouryajitbhattacharya2900 3 года назад +2

    Hello Stefan... I must say, ur channel is awesome... Would love if u could do a video on Polish, Dutch and other country volunteers who fought in the British army... And also a vud on Canada in Normandy
    Thanks
    Love from India🇮🇳

    • @HistoryHustle
      @HistoryHustle  3 года назад +2

      Thanks for your reply. Hope to cover these formations in the future!

  • @shutup2751
    @shutup2751 2 года назад +1

    interesting fact - a member of the wiking division went onto become a state minister in some west german state and became a notable pacifist

  • @fern8580
    @fern8580 3 года назад

    Great work ! I have the same story, but with the "Mediterranean Europeans" who lived in the "european empire of africa"' Europeans who left Spain, Italy, France, for for economic and religious reasons,between 1800 and 1920, and who joined the American forces to defeat the "viking", in 1944, "mano a mano" "en corps à corps" , and win!
    in their generosity as a victorious , they left the land rights to the vanquished! who became "viking" multimillionaire landowners between 1950 and 2021 ...

    • @HistoryHustle
      @HistoryHustle  3 года назад

      Not sure what you're trying to point out.

  • @folkerthuisman8382
    @folkerthuisman8382 3 года назад

    Welk boek zou je aan kunnen raden? veldgrauw of Wiking?

  • @TimDutch
    @TimDutch 3 года назад

    Ik ben benieuwd :)

  • @davidraper5798
    @davidraper5798 3 года назад

    Interesting and well presented.

  • @kimwit1307
    @kimwit1307 3 года назад +1

    I learned the other day there were dutch SS in Auschwitz. None of them were tried for war-crimes... May be worth lookin into.

    • @HistoryHustle
      @HistoryHustle  3 года назад

      Source?

    • @kimwit1307
      @kimwit1307 3 года назад

      @@HistoryHustle Ik zag het van de week als een item in EenVandaag.

    • @HistoryHustle
      @HistoryHustle  3 года назад

      Oké. Zal een handjevol zijn geweest. Vermoed dat dit OT'ers (of NSKK'ers) waren. Overigens zijn veel collaborateurs wel gestraft. Daarover meer in de toekomst.

    • @gunterpawlitzki1370
      @gunterpawlitzki1370 3 года назад

      In January 45 the Red Army reached
      The KZ Auschwitz. a Shirt time after, Reporters from russian Newspapers
      Like "Prawda" , Iswetia, and from the Red Army interviewed the remained priseners.
      Ist IT possible to get the articles from anyone?

  • @krzysztofwozny3002
    @krzysztofwozny3002 3 года назад

    Sir. Your history lessons are So ..Well researched. Polish descent give are take 10% 1650years of personal history. Your Excellent presentations of Not only Polish/Central European history with a Realty...Rarely seen in a historian let alone a teacher. Your pupils are Truly Privileged. Thank you for presenting the TRUTH. Take care in this 100yr. Cycle

  • @nadiamarsile3049
    @nadiamarsile3049 2 года назад +1

    Thank you very much for this clear instructive lesson. And at last , a beware against lucifer fascination. ...

  • @gennarosavastano9062
    @gennarosavastano9062 3 года назад +1

    Top👍🏻👍🏻

  • @dustyomg1337
    @dustyomg1337 3 года назад +2

    Voor het vaderland

    • @HistoryHustle
      @HistoryHustle  3 года назад

      Nah, niet echt. Tenzij je Duitsland bedoeld.

  • @est_tazer7725
    @est_tazer7725 3 года назад

    Fascinating video!

  • @skylongskylong1982
    @skylongskylong1982 3 года назад +3

    I look forward to a video of Free Dutch Forces that fought for the allies.
    Interestingly how many served for the allies, as we know 55000 Dutch served for the Axis/ Nazis.

    • @HistoryHustle
      @HistoryHustle  3 года назад

      Sure something to cover in the future. First, soon more about the Dutch Volunteer Legion.

    • @dickvansteijn4115
      @dickvansteijn4115 3 года назад

      Prinses Irene Brigade approx 3000 volunteers, trained in England.

    • @skylongskylong1982
      @skylongskylong1982 3 года назад

      @@dickvansteijn4115 They were real heroes.
      Thank you for your comment.

  • @henrymoore7921
    @henrymoore7921 3 года назад

    Where can I get large wall map like the yours ?

    • @HistoryHustle
      @HistoryHustle  3 года назад

      School maps. Can't tell where you can get them from, apart from schools.

  • @000hellraiser666
    @000hellraiser666 7 месяцев назад

    Interviews with SS Veterans | Das Reich Panzer Division
    ruclips.net/video/oJ6iog8XYBk/видео.html