As of 12/11/2024: Nikola Jokic is: 2nd in Points 1st in Rebounds 2nd in Assists 6th in Steals 1st in Triple Doubles 4th in Double Doubles 2nd in Field Goals 2nd in Field Goal % (min 400 att) 2nd in 3p Field Goal % 6th in Free Throw % among Centers 1st in Offensive Rebounds 2nd in Defensive Rebounds 1st in PER (all time record) 1st in Offensive Box +\- (all time record) 1st in Total Box +\- (all time record) 1st in Offensive Win Shares 1st in Win Shares 1st in Win Shares per 48 1st in Value over Replacement Player 1st in Player Impact Estimate 1st in Estimated Wins Added 1st in Value Added
If the Nuggets didn't have Joker they would by far be the worst team in the league. Joker has a historic On/Off percent, and a historic Box Plus Minus number. He's by far the best player in the league.
I mean, a lot of teams can say if they didn't have their top player, they'd be the worst team. Not arguing if Jokic is great or not. Team success matters when deciding MVP and it always has.
@@OnBallPodcast so, what's the cutoff, if the nuggets end up in the 4th seed would he be your MVP? does by how many games count? if he's one game off second but that one game is the 5th seed? what if the celtics win 68 games, would that mean tatum is the MVP? like what's the min status? like if SGA wins the conference by 5 games, but is behind jokic in every meaningful stat category? what about conference, what if giannis is the 3 seed in the east, his numbers are way better than SGAs? essentially, how much does team success weigh in on the MVP discussion?
@@actorajrivera1266 historically, team success has been a very big deal. Just look at the last 25-30 years. I did say their outliers, but SGA is the engine on the best team in the west and one of the best teams in the NBA. Jokic gets grace for being in a tougher conference. Giannis would have to prove more just because the east is super top heavy. Your numbers only become meaningful when you're leading your team to be one of the best.
@@OnBallPodcast let’s throw this scenario then; averages stay the same and games played stay the same. OKC wins 60 games and are 1 in the west, Denver finishes with 52 wins and are the third seed in the west. Who’s your MVP then?
So what's your NBA stats if it doesn't matter... the artistic experience? He can have 15 points, 6 rebounds and 7 assists and be the best because he is the first and he has three expensive stars in the team and that raises him?
@@tomicrade stop it. 15 points, 6 rebs, 7ast would not suggest that someone is the engine on their team. You have to be the best player on your team. Jokic is the clear cut best player on the Nuggets obviously but where they stand in the standings is not good enough for MVP when you have SGA leading his team to be the best in the west and one of the best teams historically
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As of 12/11/2024:
Nikola Jokic is:
2nd in Points
1st in Rebounds
2nd in Assists
6th in Steals
1st in Triple Doubles
4th in Double Doubles
2nd in Field Goals
2nd in Field Goal % (min 400 att)
2nd in 3p Field Goal %
6th in Free Throw % among Centers
1st in Offensive Rebounds
2nd in Defensive Rebounds
1st in PER (all time record)
1st in Offensive Box +\- (all time record)
1st in Total Box +\- (all time record)
1st in Offensive Win Shares
1st in Win Shares
1st in Win Shares per 48
1st in Value over Replacement Player
1st in Player Impact Estimate
1st in Estimated Wins Added
1st in Value Added
@@GraceAloneThroughFaithAlone and his team? You can't leave that part out when deciding who is MVP
If the Nuggets didn't have Joker they would by far be the worst team in the league. Joker has a historic On/Off percent, and a historic Box Plus Minus number. He's by far the best player in the league.
I mean, a lot of teams can say if they didn't have their top player, they'd be the worst team. Not arguing if Jokic is great or not. Team success matters when deciding MVP and it always has.
@@OnBallPodcast so, what's the cutoff, if the nuggets end up in the 4th seed would he be your MVP? does by how many games count? if he's one game off second but that one game is the 5th seed? what if the celtics win 68 games, would that mean tatum is the MVP? like what's the min status? like if SGA wins the conference by 5 games, but is behind jokic in every meaningful stat category? what about conference, what if giannis is the 3 seed in the east, his numbers are way better than SGAs? essentially, how much does team success weigh in on the MVP discussion?
@@actorajrivera1266 historically, team success has been a very big deal. Just look at the last 25-30 years. I did say their outliers, but SGA is the engine on the best team in the west and one of the best teams in the NBA. Jokic gets grace for being in a tougher conference. Giannis would have to prove more just because the east is super top heavy. Your numbers only become meaningful when you're leading your team to be one of the best.
@@OnBallPodcast let’s throw this scenario then; averages stay the same and games played stay the same. OKC wins 60 games and are 1 in the west, Denver finishes with 52 wins and are the third seed in the west. Who’s your MVP then?
So what's your NBA stats if it doesn't matter... the artistic experience? He can have 15 points, 6 rebounds and 7 assists and be the best because he is the first and he has three expensive stars in the team and that raises him?
@@tomicrade stop it. 15 points, 6 rebs, 7ast would not suggest that someone is the engine on their team. You have to be the best player on your team. Jokic is the clear cut best player on the Nuggets obviously but where they stand in the standings is not good enough for MVP when you have SGA leading his team to be the best in the west and one of the best teams historically