Well evidently not, because the chickasaws were not marched at the point of a bayonet, I don’t care how “right it feels to you”. Why don’t you take the time to read the history. There is a reason they were called the five civilized tribes, by the time they came to Oklahoma they had Christian names, many were educated and ran businesses, the Chickasaw nation relocated with most of their household goods and stock which an enormous amount of material. They choose their on course and came straight across rather than going up through Ohio and then south west to the new home. They purchased the Chickasaw nation with part of the trust fund proceeds from the sale to the federal government for their portion of south eastern United States. That portion was transferred to the Choctaw nation, because the chickasaws negotiated with the Choctaw nation for the western portion of their land. The chickasaws and Choctaw have a very long relationship back to a time before they migrated to what became the southeastern United States. My great great grandfather made the trip to Oklahoma, his name was Solomon Goforth, buried in the maytubby cemetery, along with my great grandfather, and my great uncles
HORSE - D $5 Indian is a myth. There were rolls before allotment and you had to live on the reservation. White people would’ve been noticed. Also, Elizabeth Warren is not a $5 Indian. She has no CDIB or tribal card. Her mom was born in Indian Country and is buried on the Creek Reservation in Muskogee. Blood degree has nothing to do with it. At 1% she could still be a Cherokee or Creek Citizen. They have no minimum blood quantum requirements. Now bye bye!
It goes back before 1492. Basque fishermen were here in 1425 of the coast of what is now Newfoundland. As the history shows, the brought indingiious peoples back. But that doesn't say" AMERICA" so you don't have it in your history. If it doesn't say USA it didn't happen. But your point well taken. To well dressed man.
@@toddmaek5436 If you wanna get pedantic then, Columbus didn't reach America proper in 1492, but the "West Indies". So that's as much "over there" as Newfoundland is. Europeans didn't touch North America proper until, what, 1499? When João Fernandes Lavrador explored Eastern Canada (Labrador)? Or perhaps 1521 when Ponce de Leon visited Florida (and thus the United States proper)? So it really should be "Homeland Security since 1521"... Or maybe we should just go back to Lief Erickson and say "Homeland Security since 986"?
It's a good decision for the Muscogee Nation! It is a surprise that Neil Gorsuch wrote the majority opinion re-establishing Native American sovereignty in this particular case. However I must say that I do hold Supreme Court Justices to a high moral standard, and frankly appreciate the fact that Neil Gorsuch saw to it that he would uphold Muscogee sovereignty in this instance is a reflection of that higher moral standard then I think we expected to see possibly another decision all together given the makeup of the Supreme Court. The history of the federal government in relation to Native American First Nations early in the history of the United States, and specifically the Trail of Tears is extremely dark tap chapter revealing the imperialist in colonial mentality of the United States government throughout much of the 18th and 19th century. U.S. government policies amounted to genocide generally and little more!
Not just Genocide But also, it’s a legal form of Forfeiture by Eugenics. Instead of the land going back to the Last Aboriginal Inhabitant, It is sent up for sale on the open market. And the Theft continues and Upheld by the Courts, I might add! The Court is, not without blemish.
@ohsevenone This is DIVINE providence and most fail to even be aware. From the Macro-view, highly appropriate to the original usurpers. Your conclusion is preposterous as the mind that created it! "Loopholes are just assholes stretched beyond its limit"
@ohsevenone No, it is because our Government is not entitled to half a state that a child molester is also not entitled to prosecute him. You are flipping the cause and effect around. Ans as you may have heard in this very video, this decision does not mean he gets out of jail, it means a different jurisdiction has the right and the obligation to prosecute him.
The tribal council loves to claim federal land when it suits them. State law legalized marijuana cultivation and the tribes still wont grow until their federal Wardens specifically say they can.
@@billfoster5257 Federal land was never federal land. who decided, what person in government decided they owned all the land. Our declaration we the people and constitution is flawed. we need to start again. make we the people for All our people. Americans.
This is fascinating.. What about The First Treaty of Prairie du Chien 1825 which "gave" all of North and South Dakota and part of western Minnesota to the displaced tribes of the Great Lakes region? The US government broke that and subsequent treaties once gold was discovered in The Black Hills. How could that effect the status of DAPL and what about Mt. Rushmore? What about the 38 Dokota prisoners Lincoln had executed as punishment for U.S.-Dakota War of 1862, which was brought on by US' continued infringement of native sovereignty? When are we going to recognize that as a war crime? The time has come, the chickens are coming home to roost.
@ohsevenone You understand the "our" government already gave these lands to the tribes after chasing them of the lands that some of them had lived on for centuries to the east of OK? You really should brush up on the historical progression of our double dealing and re-nigging on many agreements in the past. Btw, who is the "our" in your statement? Which citizens do you think the government belongs to, 'cause I thought it was every US citizen..
@@dreamingrightnow1174 chases off the lands. sounds like you should be happy those boys did not make your tribe disappear. no we had a war for 100years and we won sorry not sorry.
@@thedog4499 I guess "we" means the government... what happened to the 2nd Amendment, hypocrite? Ask the Bundy's who "we" is. You can't love the government storm troopers when it's convenient, and then scream about a communist state taking over individual rights the next. You can't cherry pick the Constitution, or spout off about stuff the "founders" wrote and then say the treaties are old and we need to move on.
@@thedog4499 And, btw, since you seem to think of yourself as a historian, what was this war we supposedly had for "a hundred years"? I'm curious what you're going to pull outta your ass next.
How can we forget? One of the very first stories We are told as children in school Is about a juvenile Aboriginal girl. Who is viciously raped by Captain, John Smith! Her father, the chief of the tribe, wants to kill the son of a bitch. She pleads for his life and her father cannot stand the pain. His daughter, now dead to him as she, Leaves then. For he knows she, will never be seen by him again! Today, Her bones are on display, Another skull of humanity, stuck on their bloody wall. Like, What? Some kind of Great Trophy over Aboriginals, everywhere! They don’t get to. The people want Her back‼️ Nothing can be healed until The bones of “Pocahontas” Are RETURNED to her People.
Jah and Jahnes love. This was a great segment. Great questions from Amy Goodman, and Professor Deer spoke solo eloquently. I learned a lot. Blessed love.
My big brother had a document entitling him to 165 acres of land from the government treaty. He never collected on that can you imagine ! It is a sore spot between governments, Sooners, & the five Civilized tribes.... Love is the greatest force on Earth love is the only Force, that can turn an enemy into a friend, love one another .
Rosewood. Tulsa. Native Americans are not the only citizens entitled to land reparations. After seeing too many videos of police brutality and Karen harassment, we are owed. The Supreme Court can keep that same energy with FBA.
@larry baily Actually you're wrong technically, research this 1866 treaties required the 5 civilized tribes to enroll the African Americans as members of their tribes and was backed by SCOTUS ruling.
The court ruling does not necessarily mean that state and county authority is nullified. It means that legal jurisdiction will switch from state to federal in cases involving indigenous folk either as victims or perps. The state and county services will still be operational. I'm personally hoping to be exempt from state property taxes , because of the ruling. There is also an effort to take down the oklahoma land run monument, I hope that succeeds as well. It will be a real can of woop *as for the racists in this state!
Call it a loose end, or a lead, but it is both Daniel Immerwahr's "How to Hide An Empire: A History of the Greater United States" and the NBC's Sander Vanocur's 1967 interview with Martin Luther King Jr. at Ebenezer Baptist Church that has me here folding a dog-ear. As The Revolutionary War completed the transition of the self-identifying term 'Colonialist' to 'American', the steady stream of European settlers arriving in 'the new world' still continued. Plantations of slavery were still an thriving industry in this era and the westward 'land grab' expansionism took place under the United States federal government policy of assimilation towards the First Nations; and as result, the Choctaw, Creek, Seminole, Cherokee, and Chickasaw tribes were forcibly moved to this area between 1830 and 1843, which was officially named the Indian Territory at that time. After the American Civil War (1861-65), many other tribes FROM THROUGHOUT the United States were forcefully or by treaty moved off their lands and settled in the adjoining lands of The Indian Territory called Oklahoma; and this transfer of people was referred to as the "Trail of Tears". There were about 80,000 Indigenous peoples in Oklahoma when the entire area would become known as The Indian Territory. In essence, this land would be a reservation of 181,037 kilometres squared. It is here that I start to look upon Oklahoma equally to that of Guam, Costa Rica, Hawaii and The Philippines despite it being a 'territory' within the continental borders of The United States. I never could 'fact check' Mr. Immerwahr's comments of 'white population percentage' within territories to gain statehood as he cited the Northwest Ordinance; wish that I did, maybe my literacy skills at reading between the lines needs an upgrade. Then, it was comments by Dr. Martin Luther Jr. that indirectly suggested that though Juneteenth Independence had made the slave a 'free man', they were" left to use the rivers and trees for their shelter", that no 'land grab' was offered to the ex-slave, and they were left with no where to go. The simultaneous plight of the Indigenous and of the ex-slave is somewhat a corruption of the term, "never allow the left hand know what the right hand is doing"; racism has deep systematic and culturally inherent roots. In the United States, you have "Wounded Knee", while here in Canada we have the "residential schools". We have immeasurable historical shame in regards to Indigenous Rights and Treaties. One contemporary issue in particular is called the "Highway of Tears". Since the early 1970's many Indigenous women have been reported missing and murdered along a British Columbia highway corridor and have remained unsolved to this very day. It is a disgrace how many. Meanwhile, during a 1983 Canadian Constitutional debate, then British Columbia Chief Bill Wilson tells then Canadian Prime Minister Pierre Trudeau than his young daughter at home would like someday to become Prime Minister, to which Trudeau suggests that she should "stick around". In 2015, Pierre Trudeau's son Justin, appoints Chief Bill Wilson's daughter, Jody Raybould-Wilson as Federal Minister of Justice......and quite frankly, I really thought that honest investigation and justice into the "Highway of Tears", as well as many other Indigenous Rights and Treaties, would actually see the light of day. Anyway, the status quo in the States and in Canada with regards to racism I keep hearing Martin Luther King Jr.'s echo, "If not now, when?".
Thanks for the comment. I'll have to give it a closer look because it's packed with lots of info. More and more people are seeing how the history of all BIPOC interweave with regard to the systemic subjugation by the white European US and Canadian governments. Lincoln was a big part of this too, despite the common belief that he was a champion of black and indigenous people. Btw, we had the same "boarding schools' in which Native children were kidnapped from their families and constantly bombarded with propaganda from a murderous white supremacist US State. Also, as a side note, there's a good YT channel (Canadian) who does a lot of excellent US political commentary. It's called The Rational National, and I'm always impressed by how well he understands and is able to dig down into current political issues here in the US.
@@dreamingrightnow1174 I really can't say that I was expecting any response, just my way of sorting out all the information to help appease the frustrations. I must admit that I was unaware that the 'boarding schools' were also south of the 49th. I remember the "apology" that Canadian First Nations National Chief accepted while standing in Parliament in Ottawa, then his audience with the Pope. I am not a television watcher, haven't been for 20 years, but I will seek out The Rational National online. My father was in the Federal Department of Northern and Indian Affairs when I was a child in Winnipeg, Manitoba and he always brought home moccasins and soapstone from his road trips.. I lived for a brief time in the Northwest Territories with the Dog Rib and Slavey in the Dehendeh and I learned what it was to be a visible minority as I enjoyed first hand genuine kindness they offered me during my stay. The subject has always been a 'thorn in my flesh' so to speak. I presently live in a ethnically and religiously diverse neighborhood and we respect the boundaries and religion, language and color. I just cannot seem to fathom that after 500 years society can't seem to see to understand what was done. It triggers a need to vent with a keyboard...and I didn't mean to offend you if I had...just wish more people were blind. Sorry to trouble you for your time.
Good job Neal, better late than never. How about those freaky leaky pipelines? We all know they are soooo wrong for soooo many reasons. I see you may be a fair person after all. That is very promising. Thank you.
Thank for you clarifying the land ownership misconception but could we stop using the term RESERVATION. It is misleading and not accurate. I am Choctaw, work for the Tribe, and live in on Tribal land. The the correct term is TERRITORY. We are great mix of races, culture, and private land owners and are not FEDERAL lands as RESERVATIONS are.
lena pettay don’t be silly, you act as if the Indian nations are governed by savages. That are referred to as civilized tribes for a reason. We went to white mans schools and got book learning. You don’t bite the hand that feeds you.
If they added up the annuities they promised you and then didn't pay + interest and in today's dollars that would be a good start. They'll say they can't afford it, but somehow they keep affording the billions to militarize the police and build more weapons of mass destruction, and STILL not take a cent from the 1%.
Do we know which group of people was the first on this continent? And would it be right to call any of today's groups "first"? "Native people" is problematic because everyone born on the land is native to it. "Indigenous" might be most correct, though every group migrated to the land at a different time. Maybe"pre-European"?
I gladly would and will deal with my homestead as an indigenous, rightful heritage of the Swinomish (or) Samish. lets talk? Gorsuch may have a conscience, thank gawd.
@Freedom Of the press I felt like that too at onetime but their here to stay and there are a lot of good and bad people who are white and of all races so we should try to make peace with each other. On my reservation there are some whites living there.
@Freedom Of the press That's not true. Non-natives can and do live on reservations. As for you, @Levi Herne , that is to be determined. There will be many changes in the future.
@Freedom Of the press Of course reservations were made for tribes, but plenty of non-native people live in them. It is completely legal and completely okay. Calm down.
I don't know how Indian tribe/justice courts work, but it would be funny and ironic if the tribe gave him the rapist death penalty on elder tribal vote.
Like all great men Great Nations keep thier word!!!!!! States think that they own everything even the children of native Americans and they don't !!!! God Bless these Great People!!!
Let's also be mindful that these tribes enslaved Africans and brought them to Oklahoma on the trail. The freedmen of these tribes were equally dehumanized by the so called civilized tribes. To this day the descendants of those freedmen are still fighting for justice in Oklahoma
The Cherokee Freedman ADOS just recently regained their citizenship provided them by these same treaties. Not sure about the other tribes, but I believe they are STILL fighting for their justices within their respective tribes.
Chief Egunwale Fagbenro Amusan: You must have too much Drano in your meth mix. You can't equate the new, corporate slavery of white people with Africans with any native activity. North American natives did not build big boats with cannons so they could import foreigners. Where does your racist imagination come from?
May 28, 1830 Indian removal Act " Trail of Tears" This is when a buisness stole their private property. Constitution of the United States Amendments IV, V David James West, a Christian man
Convince gov to let everyone have an acre of free tax free land to live on and grow food on. End farm subsidies Everyone has the right to grow all their own food.
Can we just acknowledge that a Native American, attorney, member of a tribe, referred to Native Americans as Indians, repeatedly, throughout the broadcast? “Indians”? As in from India? Cleveland?
@Deen Bloger their land was wrongfully occupied back in Alabama. this would have been Comanche territory. But we killed them off in this case in order to make way for reservations for less resistant natives back east.
@Jeanne Dillon the thought was that reclaiming the land might happen through the US government, but it could work through the casino too. It seemed the casino approach might bring the change sooner, maybe much sooner. I'd like to see the government operate with integrity, but I'm not holding my breath for that...
Ok now what about the 1866 Indian Treaty? The 1866 treaty says Black "freedmen" , that were held captive by these tribes ,were to be allocated resources as well. Of course none of the native Americans honored the treaty and didn't pay the Blackman anything. No black person should support any Native American tribe in any way. The truth is not told about the discriminatory, and demonic policies of native Americans, against the native indigenous Black Africans of this continent. Native Americans participated in Plantation slavery and owe African Americans reparations, just like the US government does.
Lol, I see someone listens to Dwayne Calloway. Of course the Freedmen did get tribal citizenship and during the Dawes Act did get their allotments, without any restriction put on them. You might remember a thing called Black Wall Street in Tulsa. It was built by black Creek citizens on land allotted to them from the Dawes Act. So your barking up the wrong reparations tree. But yeah, of the over 500 Indian Nations single out the 5 who did practice slavery to demonize all Tribes. You also might not be aware that from the Pequot War to the Tuscarora War American Indians were themselves victims of slavery and sold off to be exported to Caribbean sugar plantations. I probably should not mention how the 9th and 10th Cavalry Buffalo Soldiers showed their love to the Plains Indians, cause that would be cherry picking just to prove a false narrative.
Megalodon Unlocked what are we fighting back ? Obviously things are taking a natural approach. You may not be a Christian but it’s my belief God is judging America for its injustice to the Indians and blacks. It’s falling apart before our eyes. I’d say just sit back and observe.
If all treaties were honored ....all natives would be better off ...as in we would do what were we doing then, and mind our own and live and love our own. We had no dieses no illnesses we had a land that provided abundantly. Now look...smh
So many white peoples $5 Indians look just Senator Elizabeth Warren and these white peoples are not Indians,, some white men married Indians women to kill them later to be entitled their land, wow Absolutely awful,, the white Race have broken all the treaties they had with the Indians
You DNT see a flood of natives not trying to take advantage of this to come home??? Your not looking hard enough there are plenty who want a chance to get out!!!
In a real government cases and penalty against natives on tribal land had to be served by the federal court not the state. The little field judge has no rule there anymore and never did.
How does the tribe go from black to white? The real chataw ( Shataw tribes are still in the south and was given in land return to them 74 -78 thousand acres how is that possible?
they were forced to trade their land for other land, not "tribal rights" or whatever people are focusing on now!!! natives only wanted land like everyone else? the reservation is the land, it was just a word description for the land, just like a game reserve, the animals need land, they are given rights, the deer, bear, and etc, etc, I never heard of squatters moving in on a game reserve, they would be arrested and fined and severe charges, go squat on a 🦆 duck refuge and see the rights to stay there and keep the land, would you tell the ducks you have rights, but no land?
I’m so happy that the Native Tribes finally got a positive outcome 🌺
@ohsevenone He still went to jail.
@ohsevenone did you watch the video? he's still going to prison, just under federal rather than state authority.
@HORSE - D Found the racist in the room.
Sarah Deer is exceptionally well informed- what a Terrific segment...!! this feels exceedingly right. 👁
@HORSE - D senseless dribble
@Annabelle B ...rude bitch...how dare you besmirch my compliment . what ? triggered much. ? wacko.⌛💩
Well evidently not, because the chickasaws were not marched at the point of a bayonet, I don’t care how “right it feels to you”. Why don’t you take the time to read the history. There is a reason they were called the five civilized tribes, by the time they came to Oklahoma they had Christian names, many were educated and ran businesses, the Chickasaw nation relocated with most of their household goods and stock which an enormous amount of material. They choose their on course and came straight across rather than going up through Ohio and then south west to the new home. They purchased the Chickasaw nation with part of the trust fund proceeds from the sale to the federal government for their portion of south eastern United States. That portion was transferred to the Choctaw nation, because the chickasaws negotiated with the Choctaw nation for the western portion of their land. The chickasaws and Choctaw have a very long relationship back to a time before they migrated to what became the southeastern United States. My great great grandfather made the trip to Oklahoma, his name was Solomon Goforth, buried in the maytubby cemetery, along with my great grandfather, and my great uncles
She was very good!Until I realized her last name was deer, I thought she was calling her dear!😄
“...as long as the grass grows and the river flows.”
Do they have grass there? Kind of 🏜 isn't it?
it all depends on covid 20 you got 19 for now 👽 therefore 1492 repairs become unavoidable 😥
We whites have had dams and Roundup for that treaty - no more!!
...you and your descendants...
HORSE - D $5 Indian is a myth. There were rolls before allotment and you had to live on the reservation. White people would’ve been noticed. Also, Elizabeth Warren is not a $5 Indian. She has no CDIB or tribal card. Her mom was born in Indian Country and is buried on the Creek Reservation in Muskogee. Blood degree has nothing to do with it. At 1% she could still be a Cherokee or Creek Citizen. They have no minimum blood quantum requirements. Now bye bye!
Fighting Racism since 1492
It goes back before 1492. Basque fishermen were here in 1425 of the coast of what is now Newfoundland. As the history shows, the brought indingiious peoples back. But that doesn't say" AMERICA" so you don't have it in your history. If it doesn't say USA it didn't happen. But your point well taken. To well dressed man.
@@lawrencea274 newfoundland isnt here, its there
@@toddmaek5436 If you wanna get pedantic then, Columbus didn't reach America proper in 1492, but the "West Indies". So that's as much "over there" as Newfoundland is. Europeans didn't touch North America proper until, what, 1499? When João Fernandes Lavrador explored Eastern Canada (Labrador)? Or perhaps 1521 when Ponce de Leon visited Florida (and thus the United States proper)? So it really should be "Homeland Security since 1521"...
Or maybe we should just go back to Lief Erickson and say "Homeland Security since 986"?
RACE isn't a factor, its about if a CHILD molestor and a BRUTAL murderer gets to walk! IDGAF what your race is... NOT ACCEPTABLE!
Thank you.
There appears a faint light amidst these goings on.
In this we aboriginals are coming out of the gray area or shadows as truth is being shown in the light...
It's a good decision for the Muscogee Nation!
It is a surprise that Neil Gorsuch wrote the majority opinion re-establishing Native American sovereignty in this particular case.
However I must say that I do hold Supreme Court Justices to a high moral standard, and frankly appreciate the fact that Neil Gorsuch saw to it that he would uphold Muscogee sovereignty in this instance is a reflection of that higher moral standard then I think we expected to see possibly another decision all together given the makeup of the Supreme Court.
The history of the federal government in relation to Native American First Nations early in the history of the United States, and specifically the Trail of Tears is extremely dark tap chapter revealing the imperialist in colonial mentality of the United States government throughout much of the 18th and 19th century. U.S. government policies amounted to genocide generally and little more!
Not just Genocide
But also,
it’s a legal form of Forfeiture by Eugenics.
Instead of the land going back to the
Last Aboriginal Inhabitant,
It is sent up
for sale on the open market.
And the Theft continues and
Upheld by the Courts, I might add!
The Court is, not without blemish.
They arent that highly moral because they ruled against byron allen in the civil rights act of 1866 case.
HORSE - D
Your anger is well noted,Brother.
Hands up, wiki wiki 🤟🏽😎🤚🏼
Guess we just have traitors in the garden
So can the tribes seek restitution since half of Oklahoma sits on treaty approved tribal lands?
bookaholic blue
Hell Yeah‼️ That INCLUDES
The STOLEN Profits from
Oil and other resources.
AND let the land heal!
‼️ NODAPL ‼️
@ohsevenone This is DIVINE providence and most fail to even be aware. From the Macro-view, highly appropriate to the original usurpers.
Your conclusion is preposterous as the mind that created it!
"Loopholes are just assholes stretched beyond its limit"
@ohsevenone No, it is because our Government is not entitled to half a state that a child molester is also not entitled to prosecute him. You are flipping the cause and effect around. Ans as you may have heard in this very video, this decision does not mean he gets out of jail, it means a different jurisdiction has the right and the obligation to prosecute him.
ohsevenone he’s not going free. He’ll be tried by the feds or tribal court. It’s about jurisdiction, not acquittal.
@ohsevenone not because. that is just the way the question came before the court.
Non-native americans should have to pay special property taxes to the reservation.
They really should
Ken Wennemar don’t be a greedy asshole.
All of the Americas should be placed under native leadership. Our only chance at survival as a species.
Native Black Americans should be exempt
Personaly, I believe property taxes of any sort is unjust and is a major way greedy racists use to gentrify other people's communities.
Right on! Gov Stitt thot he could 'own' indian casinos. Sovereign nations, dude. Proved. Rightonrighton
The tribal council loves to claim federal land when it suits them. State law legalized marijuana cultivation and the tribes still wont grow until their federal Wardens specifically say they can.
@@billfoster5257 Federal land was never federal land. who decided, what person in government decided they owned all the land. Our declaration we the people and constitution is flawed. we need to start again. make we the people for All our people. Americans.
The whole of the AMERICAS shall be Reclaimed, sooner the better! "Trail of Joy, now..."
"Native Lives Matter"!
This is fascinating.. What about The First Treaty of Prairie du Chien 1825 which "gave" all of North and South Dakota and part of western Minnesota to the displaced tribes of the Great Lakes region? The US government broke that and subsequent treaties once gold was discovered in The Black Hills. How could that effect the status of DAPL and what about Mt. Rushmore? What about the 38 Dokota prisoners Lincoln had executed as punishment for U.S.-Dakota War of 1862, which was brought on by US' continued infringement of native sovereignty? When are we going to recognize that as a war crime? The time has come, the chickens are coming home to roost.
and look at them US crying for Thibet!
@ohsevenone You understand the "our" government already gave these lands to the tribes after chasing them of the lands that some of them had lived on for centuries to the east of OK? You really should brush up on the historical progression of our double dealing and re-nigging on many agreements in the past. Btw, who is the "our" in your statement? Which citizens do you think the government belongs to, 'cause I thought it was every US citizen..
@@dreamingrightnow1174 chases off the lands. sounds like you should be happy those boys did not make your tribe disappear. no we had a war for 100years and we won sorry not sorry.
@@thedog4499 I guess "we" means the government... what happened to the 2nd Amendment, hypocrite? Ask the Bundy's who "we" is. You can't love the government storm troopers when it's convenient, and then scream about a communist state taking over individual rights the next. You can't cherry pick the Constitution, or spout off about stuff the "founders" wrote and then say the treaties are old and we need to move on.
@@thedog4499 And, btw, since you seem to think of yourself as a historian, what was this war we supposedly had for "a hundred years"? I'm curious what you're going to pull outta your ass next.
How can we forget?
One of the very first stories
We are told as children in school
Is about a juvenile Aboriginal girl.
Who is viciously raped by Captain, John Smith!
Her father, the chief of the tribe, wants to kill the son of a bitch.
She pleads for his life and her father cannot stand the pain.
His daughter, now dead to him as she, Leaves then.
For he knows she, will never be seen by him again!
Today, Her bones are on display,
Another skull of humanity, stuck on their bloody wall.
Like, What?
Some kind of Great Trophy over Aboriginals, everywhere!
They don’t get to.
The people want Her back‼️
Nothing can be healed until
The bones of “Pocahontas”
Are RETURNED to her People.
Jah and Jahnes love. This was a great segment. Great questions from Amy Goodman, and Professor Deer spoke solo eloquently. I learned a lot. Blessed love.
Yeah, Amy is doing her best to fill in the huge gaps we have in our education.
Excellent source of information and presenting the perspective from this side of the fence.
wish these dialogues were longer. I learned so much.
My big brother had a document entitling him to 165 acres of land from the government treaty.
He never collected on that can you imagine !
It is a sore spot between governments, Sooners, & the five Civilized tribes....
Love is the greatest force on Earth
love is the only Force,
that can turn an enemy
into a friend,
love one another .
165 acres Was that a Presidential Land Paten given to him by a US President ?
Rosewood. Tulsa. Native Americans are not the only citizens entitled to land reparations. After seeing too many videos of police brutality and Karen harassment, we are owed. The Supreme Court can keep that same energy with FBA.
Sharing, Justice and Peace for All.
👍It's About Time!👍✌
Ral Ral: It's about time, it's about space, it's all about the whole human race!
It's amazing how such a horrific crime has such a bitter sweet result.
Many, many, INFINITE blessings to the female that was part of this story..😥🙏
Wow very good Supreme Court upheld the tribal land in Oklahoma, that is the beginning of getting to the TRUTH of trail of tears INDIANS,,
This story went down the memory hole. Any updates?
What happened to the "Black Indians" !!
@larry baily Actually you're wrong technically, research this 1866 treaties required the 5 civilized tribes to enroll the African Americans as members of their tribes and was backed by SCOTUS ruling.
No such thing as blk Indians but if u mean afro Indigenous as in mixed blood they are around
The court ruling does not necessarily mean that state and county authority is nullified. It means that legal jurisdiction will switch from state to federal in cases involving indigenous folk either as victims or perps. The state and county services will still be operational. I'm personally hoping to be exempt from state property taxes , because of the ruling. There is also an effort to take down the oklahoma land run monument, I hope that succeeds as well. It will be a real can of woop *as for the racists in this state!
Put Sarah in charge. She's got her act together obviously.
Aboriginal/Indigenous-America.
Brown-Black-Bronze- Deep Coloured
Skinned people.
That's what we need too: sovereignty
Outstanding interview. Looked around for more info on the subject. Intellect at its best.
Call it a loose end, or a lead, but it is both Daniel Immerwahr's "How to Hide An Empire: A History of the Greater United States" and the NBC's Sander Vanocur's 1967 interview with Martin Luther King Jr. at Ebenezer Baptist Church that has me here folding a dog-ear. As The Revolutionary War completed the transition of the self-identifying term 'Colonialist' to 'American', the steady stream of European settlers arriving in 'the new world' still continued. Plantations of slavery were still an thriving industry in this era and the westward 'land grab' expansionism took place under the United States federal government policy of assimilation towards the First Nations; and as result, the Choctaw, Creek, Seminole, Cherokee, and Chickasaw tribes were forcibly moved to this area between 1830 and 1843, which was officially named the Indian Territory at that time.
After the American Civil War (1861-65), many other tribes FROM THROUGHOUT the United States were forcefully or by treaty moved off their lands and settled in the adjoining lands of The Indian Territory called Oklahoma; and this transfer of people was referred to as the "Trail of Tears". There were about 80,000 Indigenous peoples in Oklahoma when the entire area would become known as The Indian Territory. In essence, this land would be a reservation of 181,037 kilometres squared. It is here that I start to look upon Oklahoma equally to that of Guam, Costa Rica, Hawaii and The Philippines despite it being a 'territory' within the continental borders of The United States. I never could 'fact check' Mr. Immerwahr's comments of 'white population percentage' within territories to gain statehood as he cited the Northwest Ordinance; wish that I did, maybe my literacy skills at reading between the lines needs an upgrade. Then, it was comments by Dr. Martin Luther Jr. that indirectly suggested that though Juneteenth Independence had made the slave a 'free man', they were" left to use the rivers and trees for their shelter", that no 'land grab' was offered to the ex-slave, and they were left with no where to go. The simultaneous plight of the Indigenous and of the ex-slave is somewhat a corruption of the term, "never allow the left hand know what the right hand is doing"; racism has deep systematic and culturally inherent roots.
In the United States, you have "Wounded Knee", while here in Canada we have the "residential schools". We have immeasurable historical shame in regards to Indigenous Rights and Treaties. One contemporary issue in particular is called the "Highway of Tears". Since the early 1970's many Indigenous women have been reported missing and murdered along a British Columbia highway corridor and have remained unsolved to this very day. It is a disgrace how many. Meanwhile, during a 1983 Canadian Constitutional debate, then British Columbia Chief Bill Wilson tells then Canadian Prime Minister Pierre Trudeau than his young daughter at home would like someday to become Prime Minister, to which Trudeau suggests that she should "stick around". In 2015, Pierre Trudeau's son Justin, appoints Chief Bill Wilson's daughter, Jody Raybould-Wilson as Federal Minister of Justice......and quite frankly, I really thought that honest investigation and justice into the "Highway of Tears", as well as many other Indigenous Rights and Treaties, would actually see the light of day. Anyway, the status quo in the States and in Canada with regards to racism I keep hearing Martin Luther King Jr.'s echo, "If not now, when?".
Thanks for the comment. I'll have to give it a closer look because it's packed with lots of info. More and more people are seeing how the history of all BIPOC interweave with regard to the systemic subjugation by the white European US and Canadian governments. Lincoln was a big part of this too, despite the common belief that he was a champion of black and indigenous people. Btw, we had the same "boarding schools' in which Native children were kidnapped from their families and constantly bombarded with propaganda from a murderous white supremacist US State. Also, as a side note, there's a good YT channel (Canadian) who does a lot of excellent US political commentary. It's called The Rational National, and I'm always impressed by how well he understands and is able to dig down into current political issues here in the US.
@@dreamingrightnow1174 I really can't say that I was expecting any response, just my way of sorting out all the information to help appease the frustrations. I must admit that I was unaware that the 'boarding schools' were also south of the 49th. I remember the "apology" that Canadian First Nations National Chief accepted while standing in Parliament in Ottawa, then his audience with the Pope. I am not a television watcher, haven't been for 20 years, but I will seek out The Rational National online. My father was in the Federal Department of Northern and Indian Affairs when I was a child in Winnipeg, Manitoba and he always brought home moccasins and soapstone from his road trips.. I lived for a brief time in the Northwest Territories with the Dog Rib and Slavey in the Dehendeh and I learned what it was to be a visible minority as I enjoyed first hand genuine kindness they offered me during my stay. The subject has always been a 'thorn in my flesh' so to speak. I presently live in a ethnically and religiously diverse neighborhood and we respect the boundaries and religion, language and color. I just cannot seem to fathom that after 500 years society can't seem to see to understand what was done. It triggers a need to vent with a keyboard...and I didn't mean to offend you if I had...just wish more people were blind. Sorry to trouble you for your time.
@@Mark-fy9iu You didn't offend me at all. I enjoyed your comments. Take care.
That's just fantastic!
That's not India...you'd think Europeans would know where they are after all this time...
Good ✊🏼✊🏼
Good job Neal, better late than never. How about those freaky leaky pipelines? We all know they are soooo wrong for soooo many reasons. I see you may be a fair person after all. That is very promising. Thank you.
Thank for you clarifying the land ownership misconception but could we stop using the term RESERVATION. It is misleading and not accurate. I am Choctaw, work for the Tribe, and live in on Tribal land. The the correct term is TERRITORY. We are great mix of races, culture, and private land owners and are not FEDERAL lands as RESERVATIONS are.
Please don't just focus on crime, which is usually symptomatic of a systemic lack of economic opportunity.
She said... tribal government... So their is nothing to stop them from eminent domain and take your house.
lena pettay don’t be silly, you act as if the Indian nations are governed by savages. That are referred to as civilized tribes for a reason. We went to white mans schools and got book learning. You don’t bite the hand that feeds you.
I wouldn't say that. If people are greedy and petty maybe they would.
gov. give u tax money on the land from then to now
If they added up the annuities they promised you and then didn't pay + interest and in today's dollars that would be a good start. They'll say they can't afford it, but somehow they keep affording the billions to militarize the police and build more weapons of mass destruction, and STILL not take a cent from the 1%.
Wow!I didnt hear about this!So glad I stumbled upon it!
McGurt thought he would get a lighter sentence .. he did not. He got a harsher one.
My cousin, Robert Miller is an attorney and expert on this case. He has several videos on RUclips.
The most high will give it back no body can stop Hawah will it be done
Finally a legitimate united states of america supreme court justice ruling for the truth honestly.
Can I point out the back to the term American Indian historically wrong the official term should be Native Americans or first Nations people
India for "In the End".
@ohsevenone Should the US govt be trying child molestors in France?
Do we know which group of people was the first on this continent? And would it be right to call any of today's groups "first"?
"Native people" is problematic because everyone born on the land is native to it.
"Indigenous" might be most correct, though every group migrated to the land at a different time.
Maybe"pre-European"?
Wrong all our treaties are under the name American Indians and that's the name the Wabos and pretendians are trying to steal from us.
The title: they're not Indans.
I gladly would and will deal with my homestead as an indigenous, rightful heritage of the Swinomish (or) Samish. lets talk? Gorsuch may have a conscience, thank gawd.
It's almost as if the Justices that are nominated by a particular President are their own person with their own thoughts and agency or something...
Why are these important Supreme Court decisions often so close?
Do Cherokee Choctaw Chickasaw seminole and Creek people have to pay land taxes on their land if they live within the new reservation boundaries ?
@Freedom Of the press I felt like that too at onetime but their here to stay and there are a lot of good and bad people who are white and of all races so we should try to make peace with each other. On my reservation there are some whites living there.
@Freedom Of the press Israel?
What about city, county, state and federal land in the boundaries, is that returned? She only said private land won't be effected.
@Freedom Of the press That's not true. Non-natives can and do live on reservations. As for you, @Levi Herne , that is to be determined. There will be many changes in the future.
@Freedom Of the press Of course reservations were made for tribes, but plenty of non-native people live in them. It is completely legal and completely okay. Calm down.
I don't know how Indian tribe/justice courts work, but it would be funny and ironic if the tribe gave him the rapist death penalty on elder tribal vote.
Like all great men Great Nations keep thier word!!!!!! States think that they own everything even the children of native Americans and they don't !!!! God Bless these Great People!!!
Let's also be mindful that these tribes enslaved Africans and brought them to Oklahoma on the trail. The freedmen of these tribes were equally dehumanized by the so called civilized tribes. To this day the descendants of those freedmen are still fighting for justice in Oklahoma
The Cherokee Freedman ADOS just recently regained their citizenship provided them by these same treaties. Not sure about the other tribes, but I believe they are STILL fighting for their justices within their respective tribes.
Some free men of color (freed slaves) in Louisiana also owned slaves.
Doesn't excuse Andrew Jackson's genocide.
Chief Egunwale Fagbenro Amusan: You must have too much Drano in your meth mix.
You can't equate the new, corporate slavery of white people with Africans with any native activity.
North American natives did not build big boats with cannons so they could import foreigners.
Where does your racist imagination come from?
I'm applying for refugee status in Oklahoma. I'm fleeing a racist government, rampant disease and joblessness.
I'm glad for the ruling
May 28, 1830
Indian removal Act
" Trail of Tears"
This is when a buisness stole their private property.
Constitution of the United States Amendments IV, V
David James West, a Christian man
Orange clown will be in prison soon!
Convince gov to let everyone have an acre of free tax free land to live on and grow food on.
End farm subsidies
Everyone has the right to grow all their own food.
Can we just acknowledge that a Native American, attorney, member of a tribe, referred to Native Americans as Indians, repeatedly, throughout the broadcast? “Indians”? As in from India? Cleveland?
$5 Indian
It is better to be a $5 Indian than a no dollar nothing.
Does this decision change who will now issue the property tax?
Depends on you provides services to claim a tax.
49 1/2 states to go.
Those five 'civilized tribes" brought their African slaves with them on that Trail of tears. I wonder how thier journey went?
So if very little changes on the ground, this is largely a symbolic victory then.
@Deen Bloger their land was wrongfully occupied back in Alabama. this would have been Comanche territory. But we killed them off in this case in order to make way for reservations for less resistant natives back east.
Natives has clear cut borders now
I think one thing going to happen is all New construction on the north part of Oklahoma with the reservations.
Weechaw!!
and that is just sad. "private owned land should be vacated. government should relocate them
Govt should honor treaties. Give lands back
Choctaw here. I do not support BLM.
Completely off-topic. And why?
@@philipganchev2306: He probably has too much Drano in his meth mix.
We were not marched at bayonet point! That is is not true, read our history woman.
This is just going to get natives killed and term limits for the supreme court.
Davy Crockett voted against the Trail of Tears. I think that is cool.
Sooo happy!
What is the status as of 8/14/2022 ?
So, essentially nothing changed
Why does the quote say "Indian"?
Because that's what all our treaties are under is American Indian. Federally that's how we are recognized and in the legal system also
Perhaps using casino profits to purchase the privately held properties on the reserved land, as they come available, would support sovereignty.
@Jeanne Dillon the thought was that reclaiming the land might happen through the US government, but it could work through the casino too. It seemed the casino approach might bring the change sooner, maybe much sooner. I'd like to see the government operate with integrity, but I'm not holding my breath for that...
Ok now what about the 1866 Indian Treaty? The 1866 treaty says Black "freedmen" , that were held captive by these tribes ,were to be allocated resources as well. Of course none of the native Americans honored the treaty and didn't pay the Blackman anything. No black person should support any Native American tribe in any way.
The truth is not told about the discriminatory, and demonic policies of native Americans, against the native indigenous Black Africans of this continent. Native Americans participated in Plantation slavery and owe African Americans reparations, just like the US government does.
Lol, I see someone listens to Dwayne Calloway. Of course the Freedmen did get tribal citizenship and during the Dawes Act did get their allotments, without any restriction put on them. You might remember a thing called Black Wall Street in Tulsa. It was built by black Creek citizens on land allotted to them from the Dawes Act. So your barking up the wrong reparations tree. But yeah, of the over 500 Indian Nations single out the 5 who did practice slavery to demonize all Tribes. You also might not be aware that from the Pequot War to the Tuscarora War American Indians were themselves victims of slavery and sold off to be exported to Caribbean sugar plantations. I probably should not mention how the 9th and 10th Cavalry Buffalo Soldiers showed their love to the Plains Indians, cause that would be cherry picking just to prove a false narrative.
Black Americans are the American Indians
@@Sun.of.WaKhan Well then how come they're not getting any of the allocated money? You know the answer .....
@@rawstatustv2358 The answer is Complexed, but yet it can be summed up in two words. ... Identity theft.
@@Sun.of.WaKhan facts
Indian this indian that. Its NATIVE
Rather Indigenous & Aboriginal es even more better...
So does the land become reservation land now ?
No. It just reinforces the boundaries. Gives jurisdiction back to the Muskogee/Creek People
@@leeporwoll2380 Oh that's too bad I thought it was more like a land claim decision
I like to refer to Oklahoma as Texas's hat.🤣
I don't wanna be the person but...Indian?? I thought we left that term.
I'm sorry to say but USA, is still behind the times in that respect.
@7charlierox yes. But we/imgagrints still haven't changed much .
Megalodon Unlocked are you a Christian?
Megalodon Unlocked pretty contradicting but ok. That lady didn’t say anything wrong and you assumed she had blm talking points like what??
Megalodon Unlocked what are we fighting back ? Obviously things are taking a natural approach. You may not be a Christian but it’s my belief God is judging America for its injustice to the Indians and blacks. It’s falling apart before our eyes. I’d say just sit back and observe.
If all treaties were honored ....all natives would be better off ...as in we would do what were we doing then, and mind our own and live and love our own. We had no dieses no illnesses we had a land that provided abundantly. Now look...smh
So many white peoples $5 Indians look just Senator Elizabeth Warren and these white peoples are not Indians,, some white men married Indians women to kill them later to be entitled their land, wow Absolutely awful,, the white Race have broken all the treaties they had with the Indians
Severity means severity!;
Justice. Is America on the mend? Will haters wither and fall away?
What about the indians that were there before the trail of tears
You DNT see a flood of natives not trying to take advantage of this to come home??? Your not looking hard enough there are plenty who want a chance to get out!!!
throw mr blanc onto a reservation
In a real government cases and penalty against natives on tribal land had to be served by the federal court not the state. The little field judge has no rule there anymore and never did.
for several years there has been judges that are about nothing but for profit and control of poor people like the natives there.
Now they just have to Annex the land.
What about the mineral rights?
Why the hell is Oklahoma a solid red state?
March 18 1818...there family's were to be taking care of ....forever....and land.....descendents.....heirs
How does the tribe go from black to white? The real chataw ( Shataw tribes are still in the south and was given in land return to them 74 -78 thousand acres how is that possible?
they were forced to trade their land for other land, not "tribal rights" or whatever people are focusing on now!!! natives only wanted land like everyone else? the reservation is the land, it was just a word description for the land, just like a game reserve, the animals need land, they are given rights, the deer, bear, and etc, etc, I never heard of squatters moving in on a game reserve, they would be arrested and fined and severe charges, go squat on a 🦆 duck refuge and see the rights to stay there and keep the land, would you tell the ducks you have rights, but no land?
the federal government protects wildlife refuge, people can't claim it or never have? the Yellowstone hasn't been looted?
Now if only liberal judges could vote with their conscious and not their political affiliation.
Were is the justice for the killing and stealing of the Indian people s land in the white mans laws
George foreman Pawnee King mole below knee heavy weight champion
What about the 2nd Ammendment, alchohol, etcetera as they are on the Creek Nation Reservation?
the tribal police will be gun downed
What about taxes?
Amazing 😍👌
They're not Indians, they're and this is true, Americans.