Ben Pink Dandelion / “Being Quaker, Being Transformed”
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- Опубликовано: 5 июл 2024
- Quaker historian and theologian Ben Pink Dandelion, of the United Kingdom, visited as the 2015 J.M. Ward Distinguished Quaker Visitor to Guilford College. He delivered his remarks on November 18 at New Garden Friends Meeting.
Greetings Wess and Ben!
"permissive in terms of belief" ?? Just yesterday I listen to a Quaker Speak video that says Quakers don't have a set of beliefs. I thought it was, There is that of God in everyone.
You mean there are other Quaker meetings that I don't know of that prescribe a set of beliefs that all members must adhere to? I am shocked, Ben.
He is British and I have noticed that some (if not all?) British Quakers tend to have a more rules-based form of Quakerism that can even extend to Christian dogma. It's important to remember that there are three "flavours" of Quakerism: Evangelical, Conservative, and Liberal Quakerism. Here in Ireland a more liberal form of Quakerism is dominant, so I have some misgivings about the all-knowing tone and content of this lecture. As I listened, I was constantly reminded of the common Quaker claim that we do not attend meetings for worship in order to have our questions answered but rather to have our answers questioned. The wise words of an elderly Quaker I used to know also came to mind: "Walk with those who seek the truth, run from those who have found it". It made for uncomfortable listening in parts because I feel I might not have attended my first Quaker meeting had this lecture formed my introduction to Quakerism.
@@helenaville5939 don’t think he’s even trying to be ‘all knowing’…but he is an incredibly knowledgeable Quaker…and even though we are a liberal faith group there are key fundamental elements that separate us from other faith groups…and it is important that we Quakers have knowledge of these, not just a free for all attitude and we end up losing what makes us ‘Quakers’!
@@HMFOG77 He's only ""an incredibly knowledgeable Quaker" if you happen to agree with him. Many Quakers do not. Your insinuation that those of us who do not must therefore have "a free for all attitude" is simply irrational thinking. We clearly disagree and this is fine. Goodbye and I wish you well regardless.
@@helenaville5939 …to be honest there isn’t anything he says that can be disagreed with!…people might choose different wording for the divine which is perfectly understandable…the rest is just an explanation of the Quaker way…if you have a problem with that perhaps it’s you who needs to reflect…
@@HMFOG77 Your tone of address doesn't sound like the Quakers I know and have known in my life. I shall leave it there and wish you well.