Peter Boghossian: 'If you're unwilling to change your mind, your belief isn't based on evidence'
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- Опубликовано: 27 май 2023
- If you're not willing to change your mind about something, then the belief isn't held on the basis of evidence.'
Philosopher Peter Boghossian joins Andrew Doyle to discuss whether the tide of public opinion is turning against woke ideology.
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This is why we need GB News. It has it failings, but no other news channel does this sort of stuff.
Bang on
Agree.
GB is OK, but still have to work within censorship, people have the Internet, they should use it, assuming they have critical thinking, alternative media is the only way to get indepth info and who's behind this Wokeness.
@@francescostello1377 Couldn't agree more. RUclips is my news.
Funny you say that. GB News seems to dedicate its output at planting trivial issues in certain people's minds and then water them over and over to make them stick. As a result, we have a demographic that's totally incapable of dealing with a complex, ever changing reality.
*I'm sick of wokeness have you ever wondered why dra g monsters*
*aren't queuing up to read to the elderly only young kids....... strange don't you think?*
Too busy turning kids against Jesus. 🤦♂
Sexual fetish legalised through protected status laws ☹️
@@darrencowell2247 Such status laws contravene the Biblical laws of Moses. Jezeus is getting angry right now.
The groomers i read about are not in drag
Yes I often wonder that. There are plenty of elderly in homes that are lonely that would love to be entertained. So strange they only want to read to children....🤔
When these women (and some men) say "all transwomen are women and should be in womens sports/spaces/jobs" etc etc, what someone needs to do as an experiment is go their Uni course or job and tell them they are finished and to pack their stuff up. Simply say their space has gone as they had to make space for a transwoman in that class/job etc etc. Then see how happy they are to have transwomen taking womens places. It would be great to see their reactions when it affects them directly, and we can see how moral and true they really are.
It may eventually come to that. Problem is it’s mostly in sports right now. These are the same people that support illegal immigration but would never in a million years open their home up to an immigrant
Yes! That would be great to see
Their argument is like saying all wheelchair users should be employed as steeplejacks. Totally ridiculous.
I guess I would say its not an either or thing. Transwomen can participate along with cisgender women. There aren't that many trans people in the world so their participation doesn't radically change anything.
@@bgbgbg123 'Cis' women - you mean women - and then there's men. There - fixed it.
I totally agree this “woke” attitude is being forced upon students at uk universities. I sent my son happily off to university and the absolute nonsense he faced there was ridiculous. He also felt afraid to speak out about this for fear of being kicked off his course and out of the university.
Something similar happened to people in Germany in the thirties. Eventually hardly anyone spoke out
Which uni? Though they’re all like it…
I've been excluded from university because I'd be kicked out in five minutes flat. 😵
My ex got humiliated in front of a class and ridiculed by the professor when he asked who was voting labour or Tory and he was the only one who said Tory about 10 years ago. No idea why the professor was asking.
Marxists slyly taking over! The minorities shout everyone else down.
Thank you for having me on, Andrew, and thank you for your friendship.
The stridency and arrogance of young female students, who know almost nothing, and whose experience is even less, is so disappointing...they appear to have no critical self awareness, and even less of that 'tolerance' they claim to support, for any opposing view
I noticed most people who believe in changing gender also have poor familiy relationships, several mental illnesses, strange fetishes, believe in horoscopes, and use/have used drugs
Yeah the demographic is mostly middle class white women and teens. The most privileged class of people and the most social media obsessed class of people. They don’t research they quote info they’ve seen in 20 second tik tok videos and that’s the depth of knowledge they have. They can’t defend their positions at all.
WOT? ;;;; + U + ;;;; No debating societies any longer. And they pay £10,000 a year for this sh!t.
This is so going to backfire on them in a few years when all their hard won rights have disappeared and they and their daughters face the repression older women fought all their lives against….on their own heads be it.
@janetmullender282 it's so easy to think you know everything when you're young. It's only as you get older, you realize you were wrong. The 60s-70s Hippie Generation learned it. Today's activist generation will hopefully learn that too. I just hope I am still alive to see it.
"Trans women are women and they should be allowed to compete in women competition, that should be the end of the conversation. "
This has got to be said by a girl who never in her life sweats blood and tears to achieve any gold medals in sports..
Trans women are men dressed up as women ,it's quite simple really.
She has never had to complete for anything, that is one of the major problems. These people never had to struggle in their lives. These are the privileged people telling the rest of the world how it should be? This is a class war. You won't find any woke people down your local boozer, but you will at private rowing club event.
She likely has never had a job. I'll bet her mother did her homework for her throughout school. You can generally spot these brats a mile away.
Peter seems to be a person of exemplary intelligence and character. Thanks for the insights into this lunacy.
That young bratty woman who said that women shouldn't complain about having to compete with s transperson needs a slap.
As I often say, Authoritarians don't want you to believe them, the want you to obey them. If it requires evidence then it doesn't reinforce their authority.
I couldn't handle what Peter is doing without losing my patience; however, he is currently gathering some highly valuable information.
I must say this man has so much patience. People like the women in the video who yell & speak rudely in an illogical way, really makes you feel angry. Because they are full of false virtue but is actually a very hateful & intolerant person in reality.
"Know thy enemy!", as someone famously once said. Peter is doing sterling work by letting the patent irrationality of Woke dogma be exposed from the mouths of its' own believers, and THAT has real value to those who care about truth and reason still!
The generational damage is scary
I have been following Peter Boghossian for a few years now on Joe Rogan etc. He is brilliant.
But he's a pedagogue.
@Andrew Kendall Yep. Joe Rogan's channel has it all. You really have to discern, and most of its viewers are not discerning and will believing anything. That channel went down the conspiracy theory rabbithole a long time ago.
@@martynblackburn9632 You have a lot of freetime don't you. Suggestion if you can't emotionally or intellectually deal with another viewpoint don't expose yourself to other viewpoints. You'll find yourself much happier. As will everyone else.
@@Belisarius1967 You assume a lot of stuff.
Academics for dummies.
He is brilliant. Thank God for people like Peter using calm reason to attempt to bring people back to the land of reality and common sense.
Someone once asked a trans person to "define a cat". It didn't end well. You could literally see the trans person short circuit.
😂😂👏
it must be something with the food! in North Korea there are no trans-people at all! none!!!
A quadruped mammal of the feline family that has been domesticated by humans since approximately 3000 bc
The transvestist to name him correctly, was talking a man that he could not define a woman, because he was not a woman, so he asked the transvestite can you define a cat, because you’re not a cat - does that mean you can’t define one, the transvestite walked away. It was excellent
@@pervazkhaliq4598 Good one! If I were to ask a cat to define cat I imagine it would behave like a cat thus expressing it's nature.
Jonathan Swift, "You cannot reason someone out of a position, he did not reason himself into in the first place".
Swift was the author of Gullivers Travels, quote from early 1700's.
Great guest, love listening to Peter.
Thanks to Peter for his work in helping bring reason back into the world. Thanks to Andrew for his great interviewing style.
Well done Andrew and GB News! Peter is fantastic! It's very admirable what you're doing.
Two of my favorite people. Peter and Andrew. Bravo! 💚 Peter is brilliant.
Peter is brilliant, thank you Andrew.
Never heard of him before this. I like what I'm hearing from him.
If you hear someone use the word 'like' more than twice in one minute, you know that the other words they use aren't going to impress you either.
haha spot on Sir
It shows the extent of their intellect. Women like that are the problem more than trans people. They are working against their own sex by saying that trans women are women. (In the context of sport it’s totally unfair). Women like this are totally illogical. So they don’t accept reality.
Great observation.
Curse words aren't all vulgar.
That's like so spot on dude! You can like add "literally" to the list as well.
"it doesn't matter I just refuse to be transphobic" basically you just want to fit in.
"... I just want to signal my moral superiority."
@@octomancer Yup. There wasn't much substance backing it up huh.
Criticise anything about transgenderism and they call one transphobic, which suggests the claim is irrelevant.
Fundamentally, the language is flawed. A phobia is a debilitating fear of something, even though dictionaries, yes even dictionaries, are being re-written to alter the meaning of that word and many others. So, for example, I have arachnophobia. Truly, I am unreasonably afraid of spiders. I am not, however, afraid of screaming, crying men who wear dresses and have emotional breakdowns if you, no matter how calmly, inform them that having a penis (among a million other things) does not make them a woman. Honestly, I cannot possibly fear someone like that. If our starting point is a complete discarding of language, pronouns very much included, then everything that follows has to be wrong. It's kind of a version of "fruit from the poisoned tree," which is a legal concept used to judge evidence in a court trial. Therefore, I am not, nor can I be, transphobic. I simply dislike their cause and consequently, I dislike them. This hasn't always been the case with me. These people have changed my outlook on them, which seems to be a contradiction of their stated aims. Or is it?
@@drew6194 Good comment, thank you. I used to accept/sympathise with transsexuals with no thoughts about the matter. But having had the transsexual issue rammed down my throat for years, along with the feminist-, gay-, black-, Woke issue, I now refuse to see/read anything that has a protagonist belonging to one of those categories. Their ubiquity and militancy have trampled my natural sympathy to dust.
Look into the work of Alfred Kinsey and be prepared to be disgusted beyond belief. This work is being pushed into all our lives especially our children's in the form of education!!.
The work of John Money is just as disgusting, maybe worse
I enjoy listening to Mr Boghossian
If systemic racism existed in the UK how would we also have high social mobility across a lot of minority groups which we do?
Having studied in the UK, I cna say that it's actually the opposite. The university I attended had free tuition for select minorities. Al the students who got it were black. While everyone else had to pay.
Those are the exception to the rule. And its not really social mobility since a lot of the successful minorities in the Uk comprise of people who already had similar success in their home countries.
The poorest performing group in UK schools are indigenous British boys.
Any country that undergoes colonisation by massive influxes of foreign cultures damages the indigenous people.
Apart from suffering from an unwarrented sense of entitlement to the land their parents (and they) were raised on, they also take the resources their forefathers have provided them with (their heritage) for granted and freely give it away for short term gain, unaware it is their birth right wing through the sweat if their forefathers.
I live in Australia, Aboriginal people here are suffering the same symptoms for the same reasons.
The English have never really rid themselves of the shame of being colonised in 1066.
To this day the pronunciation of English is warped by a distinct class of people who do not belong to any region or place.
Received English is consciously dislocated from place, is non-parochial.
Words of French origin are used to intimidate and impress, Anglo Saxon is perceived as brutish - we aren't allowed to use Anglo Saxon in polite company.
Ever tried calling beef 'cow' or pork 'pig' at the dinner table? It's "infra dignatum" and a "faux pas" to do so don't you know?
Defeated people fail, state support merely weakens them further, denying them the ability to appreciate the value of something that has been earned, and engendering resentment rather than respect for those who have won more than they have.
@@PaddyIrishman Therefor "system racism" really does exist. Just not what those who pimp the term intend it to mean.
and an indian PM
My views and opinions change constantly because I’m always learning always.
" *The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie, deliberate, contrived and dishonest, but the myth, persistent, persuasive and unrealistic* "
― John F. Kennedy
Great talk, PB is great in the way he articulates conversations via his Street Epistemology, those are crucial exercises of much needed, crucial conversations.
Peter! Big fan.
As a fellow philosopher - I would love to bump into Boghossian on campus - love his work!
As soon as they started messing with the children people had to do something about it
It can be very hard to deprogram hardened cult followers.
They Promised, The Jetsons , They Are Forcing On Us , The Flintstones 🤫🇬🇧
Yabbadabbadoo!!!
not forcing bad grammar though.
Wil-maaaaaa
Free Speech Nation is one of the best shows on GB News. Absurdly grateful for an open platform.
The real problem is that being woke and hence irrational (and often tyrannical) has no real life negative consequences for them!
Reality will catch up with them…eventually.
great chaps
Can't wait to see the videos for London!
I hope this insanity DEI will dissipate. Each good person I have met that’s has been accused of the systemic laws is shamed out of their position.
Peter’s patience is astounding. I can’t even watch some of the street epistemology videos because the people he talks to are painful to listen to.
Perhaps I'm using semantics to prove my point but....I can't be Transphobic. To be "Phobic" of anything, I'd necessarily have to FEAR it. I don't fear Transgender folks; I simply disagree with their pathological belief they can change physiology. Phobic, few of us are!
They need to believe that we fear them because they fear everybody
@@babysis6.059 excellent point!
They believe that science is racist but also that you should "follow the science".
that's because to them there is a difference between science and The Science
I heard an indigenous researcher here in Canada say you can't believe in science generally because it's all wrapped up in white colonialism.
Thank you for introducing me to Peter Boghossian 🙏
Thank goodness for this man's common sense and understanding of human behaviour.
What a nice man. And I think he's right. Treat people how you want them to treat you, I'm working on it. :)
Next time I visit a dairy farm here in South Australia, I'll ask the owner if any of the calves gender confused, then I'll ask him are there any cows you're milking here transgender, then I'll ask would these animals you're milking rather be called cows or mummy bulls
It wouldn't do any good. The farmer probably knows gender ideology is bunk.
Massive hero of mine. I was brought up with western an understanding of western philosophy thanks to my dad and always taught the value of critical thinking. All he did was essentially prove the point he was trying to make. The students are not the problem. They are young an inevitably are going to rebel or think they know better. It's the adults that are the problem. There should be an absolute commitment at every university to promote academic freedom and faculties should tell students that if they don't like a professor because of their ideology or elements of their course they should leave and that a classroom is not a place where you should always feel comfortable but a place where if you are nor being challenged with at least one thing you think of as fundamentally true to your core your education has failed you.
Looking back to when I was a child, anyone over a certain age was an adult… uncle , aunt. Miss, Mr or Mrs. …
After I too was an adult I still thought of those individuals as much older people as “adults” and although we might become friendly to each other we never became “mates”.
Same is true when I met children in the neighborhood or family members; after they reached “adulthood ” the image of them as children was always there in the background as a barrier and we never would be called “mates”.
Difference is if I had never met them as children and met the individuals as an adults then we could be “mates” or we were children together and grew up together then we could be “mates”.
My Lamborghini has decided it's a man and wants to enter the 100 metres race at the next Olympics games. Hahaha.
You are confusing gender with a completely different category: an animate object. A Lamborghini cannot decide anything so Brandolini's Law can be invoked here.
Good luck my dear Lamborghini! Show them men how great you are 😂😂👏
Sounds like you're having "trans-mission" issues lol.
This just made me laugh so much, thank you 😂😂😂
Peter is an amazing man
Politicians can be blown with the wind....
The overuse of the word “like” makes me switch off from listening.
Great interview. I'll be watching more of Peter 👍👊
I seen video of billboard Chris in Glasgow the other night and the Glaswegian girls were embarrassing and proved the intolerance angle instantly.
Peter is fantastic!!!
“ *What is objectionable, what is dangerous about extremists is not that they are extreme, but that they are intolerant. The evil is not what they say about their cause, but what they say about their opponents* ”
― Robert F. Kennedy
Extremists are not about honest truthful debate. They are ONLY about DOMINATING you to submission, totally and completely.
Even simpler. If you can't explain the logical steps your mind took to arrive at your conclusion, it was given to you by someone else.
Ideology blinds. Absolute ideology blinds absolutely.
The method of selecting high performing candidates at university has nothing to do with free speech, or independent thought.
It highly correlates to how easily you can be programmed.
We are told to give back exactly the answer that the lecturer asks.
This is not a place for independent thought.
This I think is why university students have such a high level of this woke virus.
They are singularly susceptible to swallowing and regurgitating stuff, whatever it is.
Its scary how indoctrinated and uncapable of logical thought these youths are.
Thanks for this. I had never heard of Mr. Boghossian and I will now look into his videos.
Just brilliant
Peter=HERO
Would watch a long form interview with these two.
Thank you, Peter!!!
Thank god that change is on it’s way and we can get our human rights back.
Brilliant professor! Very creative & practical approach to opening difficult conversations!
The ideology is groundless.
The measure of true conviction is the ability to have your beliefs challenged- whether that is religious, philosophical, or scientific. Setting out to disprove a hypothesis makes your final position all the stronger. That's what separates these incessant ideologies from all else- they are built on pillars of sand. They know this, hence the 'no debate' rhetoric they cloak themselves with under the falsehood of inclusion.
Keep up the great work Peter!
If trans women are women, then why not just call them women without the "trans" prefix 🤔
EXACTLY!!!!! THEY ARE LYING TO EVERYONE AND THEMSELVES.
If trans women are women, and trans men are men, there is no need for the trans label, there is no need for trans rights and there is no need to push for inclusion when they are already included based on them being men and women. Yet they know that are not. It's all a lie.
Because you know the context. Right wingers alway disregard context. The thing is, that they will lose. They always do. Right wingers are bigotted and cannot accept change.
Because they know they're men and wouldn't be treated as superior if they were actually women.
Exactly. That is the argument I make all the time. Why the need for a clarifying word if they just ARE women. Just say women are women
im unwilling to change my mind because of the evidence and not the narrative
Not seen Peter before, interesting guy. I work in London and would love to be on of his “discussions”.
I love Peter Boghossian’s questioning style and willingness to brave the hostile unis. I wonder what issues Peter would change his mind on?
I live in Boston. Im 62 and have noticed the past year a weird thing. At least twice, black males, young teens, completely ignore me on public. One even made the comment "yechhh" when I walked by. Very rude.
They don't want to talk because they have nothing to say and even if they did they wouldn't know how to say it.
Peter is a legend and his approach is perfect for dealing with this ridiculous woke agenda. I get infuriated with how these idiots acts but he is totally correct "model the behaviour you wish to see in others" very wise words.
Let's have more.
I ucking hope so!!!
I love the expression "street epistemology".
wokeness = narcissism
"If you're unwilling to change your mind, your belief isn't based on evidence"
Describes religion perfectly
Mr Boghossian has the patience of Job. I couldn't care less about these fanatics' beliefs and would happily let them wallow around in the muck. Their problem.
Excuse me, but I hadn't noticed any politicians turning anti woke apart from Trump and De Santis. Kari Lake, Kristy Noem. Can't recall any others.
Nice!
Very interesting interview. People put a lot of effort into their beliefs and dumping them is seen as a loss. The more effort they put in the less likely they are to change their mind. I actively do not believe in anything. There is only evidence and my interpretation of it. I never put any worth on my thoughts so they can be discarded.
Peter how were you received in Australia, because as an Aussie I didn't hear a thing about your visit? 🤓🇦🇺
"If you're unwilling to change your mind about something, then the belief isn't held on the bases on evidence"
That line made no sense whatsoever. I Can't change my mind about the earth being round because that belief is held on the basis of evidence. The same reason that I can't change my mind that a man is a male and a woman is a female. Yes you can have transition procedures to make you 'look' like the opposite gender, but the sex still can't be changed no matter what, hence why I think it's fair to have a third category in sports.
Let’s see how she gets on with a partner who is a fake woman who then cannot produce children. Because they’re MEN
Not here in Canada, sadly.
University idealistic doctrine is about one point of view and any questions are viewed as fascists veiws that should be silenced.
Irrationality breeds violence!
If you're unwilling to change your mind, you're no longer alive.
Wokeism is a species of Marxism.
What is the definition of Woke. Awake knowledge. Justice constituon rights. Freedom of exspression. But no one defends this. Yes totalky discrimination.
"Point, blank, period" ... well i guess she won the argument then 😂😂😂
Beliefs themselves are essentially notional. They are not factual, evidenced proof, or appropriately balanced thinking. People mistakenly use the words believe and know interchangeably, which consequently causes unclear thinking. To be fooled, even by ourselves, we must first believe. To not be fooled, we must avoid beliefs, and use knowledge, experience and reason.
Smart guy x
Oh god it's him! I've seen loads of his vids and didn't even know his name. I do now! :)
Ladies and Gentlemen, we have ourselves a new cult.
The woke crowd shows the same hatred toward reason as creationists.