Before posting this, I had a conversation with Warstic about our experience - and here's their response. That's how you respond from failure folks 💯 "Many great things started with an epic failure. Ready. Fire. Aim….thats our style. Simple story here. Looks like a heavy percentage of bats the initial production run have this compression and breakage issue. We found out about it about 2 weeks into the release. We have confirmed its only been on 25oz and 26oz bats....not on 27oz and 28oz. So we pulled the 25 and 26's out of inventory. All are being remade bc we have identified what's causing the problem on those sizes. We are replacing any bats with this problem at no charge, free shipping too. Unfortunately we had already sent the bats to the bros upon request. All good in the end bc not only did we fix the issue we got some ideas from this about how to make them better. We don’t quit. #process #longhaul #battle."
Can't wait to see the video I'm curiously optimistic. You guys need another guy to help you test those out I'd be glad to fly up from Albuquerque New Mexico.
Really love the reviews. I can tell y'all really wanted to like the bat but also love the honesty and what Warstic could do better. Keep up the good work 🙏
Been waiting for this a while, even commented to try em in other videos. Hope they can get it dialed cause that knob is money! Bonesaber looked hot before it broke too
Great honest review. Awesome response by Warstic and will be on the look out for their future bats. Got my Miken DC-41 Long barrel today and took it to BP and instantly fell in love with it. I think I like it better than my APG2. But both still need to be broken in better. Again, Awesome reviews 🤙🤙
My buddy Jeff uses a No Knob bat in the MLB he changed to it in Minor leagues. Said it felt way more comfortable in the hands and no worries about the bat flying out his hands.
Any update on the replacement or the Warstic in general since this video? Absolutely beautiful bat and a trusted company in baseball. Paired with that handle I hope they figure it out. But honestly I was about to pull the trigger on one before I watched this. (Would be getting a 27oz)
Thanks for the review! Wish i didn’t buy this before ur review. Used it last night and man it was terrible. Hurts ur hand and is super stiff!!! Thanks guys! Always the best.
You can ship it back and get a replacement for free if it has some of the Issues like Compression and durability. 25-26oz though I stick 2019 and older Miken worth
Hey Will .. if you like that taper bat knob you have to check out Grip-N-Rip LITE Softball Bat Taper. Its a two piece knob taper that goes on before you put on a bat grip. I use them paired with VukGripz bat tape and I freakin love it over any knob grip. It works the same as that taper knob on this Warstick Bonesaber and it don't add that much weight to the end of the bat.
Any chance Warstic has sent you guys new bats yet for an updated review? Reeeeally want to see if they've fixed the production issue, especially with the Bonesaber.
Would love to see you dudes swing the newer Anarchy 240's; same tech as last year but they sound and feel better. Also hoping Monsta is sending you the new U trip Torch for a review once they land. Stoked for that, keep up the killer content.
I wonder if they have anybody actually test these that play versus just compression tests. The handle does look amazing especially since I use a taper on almost all my bats part of the reason why I love the Louisville Jenny's this year that triple crown taper they have is awesome. I am a bit upset that my moshburn within 35 hits put a seam in the paint but still seems to hit fine. My red balance is a monster Geny for me this year.
I was going to drive down to texas and pick up one of these with my season starting this week. I would've been so disappointed if I got it and it broke during the game or just some bp. Thanks for the review!
If you have a Monsta, and use a grip n rip lite with a little thicker grip (1.75 Vulcan on mine) you can kinda make a no knob because Monsta's have a slightly smaller knob, not as good obviously, but closer. At least on my Fallout it is like that, don't know for all their bats.
I cant believe how fast they broke. It's crazy. Makes me even happier I bought the db44 when I did. We have over 1500 swacks on it.. no cracks or any kind
@@klubberlang6035 I swung mine at around 28-30 degrees and it didnt break. Webbed up a bit, but the fire flex bats just do that anyway. It was hitting massive bombs when it was that cold. My home runs are usually around 325 330. When it was below 40 this bat was getting me 375 400. It was crazy
exactly. Thanks for having some perspective. Many great things started with an epic failure. Ready. Fire. Aim….thats our style. Simple story here. Looks like a heavy percentage of bats the initial production run have this compression and breakage issue. We found out about it about 2 weeks into the release. We have confirmed its only been on 25oz and 26oz bats....not on 27oz and 28oz. So we pulled the 25 and 26's out of inventory. All are being remade bc we have identified what's causing the problem on those sizes. We are replacing any bats with this problem at no charge, free shipping too. Unfortunately we had already sent the bats to the bros upon request. All good in the end bc not only did we fix the issue we got some ideas from this about how to make them better. We don’t quit. #process #longhaul #battle.
Can y’all please do a review on the Suncoast bats! I recently purchased one and it’s amazing but wanna see what you guys think because I always watch and listen to your reviews. Competitive Edge Edition is the best in my opinion.
You gotta get the one piece ruckus. I am huge fan of Louisville all the genesis are above everything else but this bat. Extremely hot out of the wrapper totally different the any of the other ruckus. I am dying to know exit velo and compression and your opinion
man... I freakin' love Warstic as a brand. Looks like the knob might be a licensing play! I get to try them out next week... not sure how I feel about that now! LOL!
Totally off topic question, have you thought about doing some vids on throwback bats like Miken freak 98’s or the orange and dark grey OG easton salvos like you do on your baseball channel?
Dang that sucks because the handle looks awesome! Hopefully they will be better on the next go round sounds like a good company they keep trying to improve! Also do you think you’ll be testing the new monsta usssa trippin torch when it come out?
After watching your reviews. Im thinking about buying a Louisville slugger genesis. My question is, I'm just playing in a weekend leauge. What would be the best bat for weekend non testing leauge? Still the genesis?
Lizard Skin worked well on my Anderson cause the knob is large. On my Easton, kinda wish I had left the original grip on it, Lizard Skin just didn't cut it.
This bring up a really interesting argument. How credible can PSI be? If you take two bats that test at 230 shouldn’t the ball come off the same? So does PSI even really matter? I heard a rumor that certain manufacturers are trying to cheat the testing system by changing the outer coating…
Compression is not the same as coefficient of restitution. Compression will dictate how much the bat or ball will flex during a swing. Coefficient of restitution will dictate how fast it will rebound. That's what the 1.2 bpf standard regulates (i don't say it does it effectively though). So whereas the ball has a set rebound property of
@@slowpitchbros 🤣 thank you dude. Your videos are a treat to watch. I enjoy talking about bats because it's my specialty, so a whole channel dedicated to swinging and reviewing bats is my kind of stuff to watch lol I'm glad i can help out and inject little extra bits of info and science into the mix
Looks like you guys got lemons. Hopefully and more than likely somebody will see this and reach out, likely send you a second batch bat with the kinks worked out. Remember the APG2’s were cracking at under 30 hits the first round out and now are the best bats out so give them some time.
Yeah I just watched it. Something seems off: they could have just simply got a reworked version of the bat from another newer batch potentially. Or there could maybe be an issue with the translation or calibration of that ASA tester. Adam is a great dude and I love his channel!
@@slowpitchbros seen it a lot where companies that move over to slowpitch have a inconsistent batch as well. So some bats might be good. Some might be bad. Happened with Junos when they first came out and seen it a lot with the first 240 line of mikens and worths.
Bonesaber's warstic messes with my eyes so hard. Too bad the bats don't have much durability. Maybe toss some durability, fix the hands being wrung up, and a no knob at the suntank ;)
Loved the review… I have the balanced and it tested 290- 300 out of the wrapper. After a 100 swings it was around 265. As for durability I haven’t hit the bat below 70 degrees, so there might be something there. Nonetheless best handle/knob in the business, makes the bat fun to swing.
It sounds like they must have a couple batches going around. I’ve heard of two people that had bats test at 300 out of the wrapper. And our tester is right on and both of these weren’t even at 240 lol
Is the bonesaber not real durable. I bought one online and didn't get it yet. I will probably just game it ND not swing it in BP if it's not real durable
If I play USSSA casual leagues where they don’t test compression and I’m not too concerned with longevity; mostly looking for something with low compression out of the wrapper, what would your top 3 suggestions be?
From this video it looks like Warstic should lease out the rights to this handle and bat knob to some of the other big bat companies who make better bats.
230 NIW is called cheating by a bat company specially for a 240 bat. Even a 220 bat . 1000% or it’s been sent to you shaved. Bats at 230 are senior sticks. Made that way for 40+ senior players.
Actually almost all companies say to break thier bats in now with asa 52/300s because they are a softer ball. Putting 100+ swings on this with harder utrip balls would of broke it faster
Before posting this, I had a conversation with Warstic about our experience - and here's their response. That's how you respond from failure folks 💯
"Many great things started with an epic failure. Ready. Fire. Aim….thats our style. Simple story here. Looks like a heavy percentage of bats the initial production run have this compression and breakage issue. We found out about it about 2 weeks into the release. We have confirmed its only been on 25oz and 26oz bats....not on 27oz and 28oz. So we pulled the 25 and 26's out of inventory. All are being remade bc we have identified what's causing the problem on those sizes. We are replacing any bats with this problem at no charge, free shipping too. Unfortunately we had already sent the bats to the bros upon request. All good in the end bc not only did we fix the issue we got some ideas from this about how to make them better. We don’t quit. #process #longhaul #battle."
Is this there first real entry into composite bats? Isn’t everything else they do alloy?
@@timcrawford7101 yep
Can't wait to see the video I'm curiously optimistic. You guys need another guy to help you test those out I'd be glad to fly up from Albuquerque New Mexico.
Y’all gotta do an updated version once they send you out a new one
I wonder how fast these would break with like a gsl ball or a stadium
Really love the reviews. I can tell y'all really wanted to like the bat but also love the honesty and what Warstic could do better. Keep up the good work 🙏
Been waiting for this a while, even commented to try em in other videos. Hope they can get it dialed cause that knob is money! Bonesaber looked hot before it broke too
Y’all gotta do an updated video once they send you the new and improved model of these
Hope to see what's new this year. Love getting amped up for the upcoming season by checking out your vids.
Great honest review. Awesome response by Warstic and will be on the look out for their future bats. Got my Miken DC-41 Long barrel today and took it to BP and instantly fell in love with it. I think I like it better than my APG2. But both still need to be broken in better. Again, Awesome reviews 🤙🤙
Literally not passing out of the wrapper. Lololol. We need a top 5 non testing list going.
It doesn't seem like these would even do well there. Unfortunate, because they look amazing
@@celica49 agreed
My buddy Jeff uses a No Knob bat in the MLB he changed to it in Minor leagues. Said it felt way more comfortable in the hands and no worries about the bat flying out his hands.
That laser beam you cut at 12:40, sick as those Jordans!
Any update on the replacement or the Warstic in general since this video? Absolutely beautiful bat and a trusted company in baseball. Paired with that handle I hope they figure it out. But honestly I was about to pull the trigger on one before I watched this. (Would be getting a 27oz)
Thanks for the review! Wish i didn’t buy this before ur review. Used it last night and man it was terrible. Hurts ur hand and is super stiff!!! Thanks guys! Always the best.
You can ship it back and get a replacement for free if it has some of the Issues like Compression and durability. 25-26oz though I stick 2019 and older Miken worth
Their baseball bats are fire. Had a buddy get the bone saber and broke it in the first 12 swings
Hey Will .. if you like that taper bat knob you have to check out Grip-N-Rip LITE Softball Bat Taper. Its a two piece knob taper that goes on before you put on a bat grip. I use them paired with VukGripz bat tape and I freakin love it over any knob grip. It works the same as that taper knob on this Warstick Bonesaber and it don't add that much weight to the end of the bat.
Any chance Warstic has sent you guys new bats yet for an updated review? Reeeeally want to see if they've fixed the production issue, especially with the Bonesaber.
That is a heck of a way to debut into a new space. Barrel is both stiff and also failing compression. Cracks day 1. Really wanna try that handle
not that uncommon. Most companies first slowpitch bat sucks - the very first issue Juno/Pure/Proton were all pretty bad in my opinion
Definitely need the no knob, but the barrel wasn't it
@@slowpitchbros I will be right here next year looking forward to the redemption review from you guys!
Would love to see you dudes swing the newer Anarchy 240's; same tech as last year but they sound and feel better. Also hoping Monsta is sending you the new U trip Torch for a review once they land. Stoked for that, keep up the killer content.
That’s insane that the bat broke that fast. I was very excited to see these in action
Almost have to give the bat a shot simply there customer service is top notch.
love they owned up to it and fixed it. Props
You guys got a softball Resident Evil vibe with that 🌁 🌫 going on there
I wonder if they have anybody actually test these that play versus just compression tests. The handle does look amazing especially since I use a taper on almost all my bats part of the reason why I love the Louisville Jenny's this year that triple crown taper they have is awesome. I am a bit upset that my moshburn within 35 hits put a seam in the paint but still seems to hit fine. My red balance is a monster Geny for me this year.
I was going to drive down to texas and pick up one of these with my season starting this week. I would've been so disappointed if I got it and it broke during the game or just some bp. Thanks for the review!
If you have a Monsta, and use a grip n rip lite with a little thicker grip (1.75 Vulcan on mine) you can kinda make a no knob because Monsta's have a slightly smaller knob, not as good obviously, but closer. At least on my Fallout it is like that, don't know for all their bats.
I cant believe how fast they broke. It's crazy. Makes me even happier I bought the db44 when I did. We have over 1500 swacks on it.. no cracks or any kind
Glad I bought the one piece APG and one piece Easton fire flex..
@@klubberlang6035 yeah. I got a fire flex too. Its heat
@@davidjoeseph2646 can’t wait to swing mine, only been hitting rubber indoor league balls
@@klubberlang6035 I swung mine at around 28-30 degrees and it didnt break. Webbed up a bit, but the fire flex bats just do that anyway. It was hitting massive bombs when it was that cold. My home runs are usually around 325 330. When it was below 40 this bat was getting me 375 400. It was crazy
@@davidjoeseph2646 dang that’s crazy, I hope my fire flex holds up with this Canadian weather
Excited for the future. Obviously the first round of bats won’t be the best, gotta get the kinks out. Can’t wait to try out the handle in the future
exactly. Thanks for having some perspective. Many great things started with an epic failure. Ready. Fire. Aim….thats our style. Simple story here. Looks like a heavy percentage of bats the initial production run have this compression and breakage issue. We found out about it about 2 weeks into the release. We have confirmed its only been on 25oz and 26oz bats....not on 27oz and 28oz. So we pulled the 25 and 26's out of inventory. All are being remade bc we have identified what's causing the problem on those sizes. We are replacing any bats with this problem at no charge, free shipping too. Unfortunately we had already sent the bats to the bros upon request. All good in the end bc not only did we fix the issue we got some ideas from this about how to make them better. We don’t quit. #process #longhaul #battle.
@@Warstic hope you guys keep pushing! Look forward to your future, hope you pull out an ASA bat one day as well 🙏🏼
@@Warstic what'd you do with all the old bats, im curious if theres a chance at getting free bats lmao
I have about a dozen of their WS72s for my wood bat league and they’re awesome. Sad to see an epic fail from warstic.
Dang I got mine yesterday, wish I waited for this video
cool to see a review of their first jump into softball bats but sucks to see how bad the durability is on them.
Would love to get one but I play NSA a lot and this bat doesn’t have the NSA stamp.
Can y’all please do a review on the Suncoast bats! I recently purchased one and it’s amazing but wanna see what you guys think because I always watch and listen to your reviews. Competitive Edge Edition is the best in my opinion.
Yessir more on those coming soon
You gotta get the one piece ruckus. I am huge fan of Louisville all the genesis are above everything else but this bat. Extremely hot out of the wrapper totally different the any of the other ruckus. I am dying to know exit velo and compression and your opinion
man... I freakin' love Warstic as a brand. Looks like the knob might be a licensing play! I get to try them out next week... not sure how I feel about that now! LOL!
Dude I LOVE their brand as well
Man these 2 bats you got really stunk. Wonder if it’s something they can improve or if it requires a full redesign
Totally off topic question, have you thought about doing some vids on throwback bats like Miken freak 98’s or the orange and dark grey OG easton salvos like you do on your baseball channel?
When is the 2022 USA Krecher review comin? 👀
Dang that sucks because the handle looks awesome! Hopefully they will be better on the next go round sounds like a good company they keep trying to improve! Also do you think you’ll be testing the new monsta usssa trippin torch when it come out?
Let’s see the new Juno Harvey’s 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Can you do a review on the 2022 Easton Diesel Helmer?
After watching your reviews. Im thinking about buying a Louisville slugger genesis. My question is, I'm just playing in a weekend leauge. What would be the best bat for weekend non testing leauge? Still the genesis?
You can get the same knob as the war stick just go on the lizard skin site and checkout the flared bat taper
Lizard Skin worked well on my Anderson cause the knob is large. On my Easton, kinda wish I had left the original grip on it, Lizard Skin just didn't cut it.
This bring up a really interesting argument. How credible can PSI be? If you take two bats that test at 230 shouldn’t the ball come off the same? So does PSI even really matter? I heard a rumor that certain manufacturers are trying to cheat the testing system by changing the outer coating…
Compression is not the same as coefficient of restitution. Compression will dictate how much the bat or ball will flex during a swing. Coefficient of restitution will dictate how fast it will rebound. That's what the 1.2 bpf standard regulates (i don't say it does it effectively though). So whereas the ball has a set rebound property of
Dude your comments are the best thing that have ever happened to this channel - I need to put you on the payroll 😂
@@slowpitchbros 🤣 thank you dude. Your videos are a treat to watch. I enjoy talking about bats because it's my specialty, so a whole channel dedicated to swinging and reviewing bats is my kind of stuff to watch lol I'm glad i can help out and inject little extra bits of info and science into the mix
Glad to see this review cause I was curious at how these bats were. Now I know it’s awful for now lol.
Looks like you guys got lemons. Hopefully and more than likely somebody will see this and reach out, likely send you a second batch bat with the kinks worked out. Remember the APG2’s were cracking at under 30 hits the first round out and now are the best bats out so give them some time.
what type of bat would be best for a clincher softball
Can we get a top 5 non composite bats lost for the single wall leagues??
Do you have a fastpitch bat bros???? If no, please get one =)
That’s crazy cause fat guy bp did a review on the white one and it tested 300 out of the wrapper. That’s a huge difference between two bats.
From what I can see. BP hero didn’t make a video on one of these
Looks like you saw the fat guy BP one.
Yeah that’s what it was, sorry
Yeah I just watched it. Something seems off: they could have just simply got a reworked version of the bat from another newer batch potentially. Or there could maybe be an issue with the translation or calibration of that ASA tester.
Adam is a great dude and I love his channel!
@@slowpitchbros seen it a lot where companies that move over to slowpitch have a inconsistent batch as well. So some bats might be good. Some might be bad. Happened with Junos when they first came out and seen it a lot with the first 240 line of mikens and worths.
whats the point of the new stamp if certain bats are already failing
Nice review. I went from interested to not interested in 10 minutes lol
Bonesaber's warstic messes with my eyes so hard. Too bad the bats don't have much durability. Maybe toss some durability, fix the hands being wrung up, and a no knob at the suntank ;)
sad debut I was excited to snag one just for that grip. How you going to stamp something 240 and not even hit the mark
I am kinda interested in seeing what the compression is at. If it dropped super fast or only a little bit to break it.
Once bats break they lose all their structural integrity so we wouldn’t be able to test them accurately anyways :/
When is the SBB bat with that knob coming out?
I think they make fast pitch bats too
Loved the review… I have the balanced and it tested 290- 300 out of the wrapper. After a 100 swings it was around 265. As for durability I haven’t hit the bat below 70 degrees, so there might be something there. Nonetheless best handle/knob in the business, makes the bat fun to swing.
It sounds like they must have a couple batches going around. I’ve heard of two people that had bats test at 300 out of the wrapper. And our tester is right on and both of these weren’t even at 240 lol
Suncoast ruckus 1 piece review please
I was playing tennis base ball and I hit at least two dingers or with warstic
only bat I've ever seen break that fast was my tps z1000s lol
Love the Channel
Is the bonesaber not real durable. I bought one online and didn't get it yet. I will probably just game it ND not swing it in BP if it's not real durable
If I play USSSA casual leagues where they don’t test compression and I’m not too concerned with longevity; mostly looking for something with low compression out of the wrapper, what would your top 3 suggestions be?
Easton Fab4, Easton Fireflex 2, anything with the Easton Fireflex OG tech.
Even the Easton Fireflex 240s or comic series bats would be good
@@slowpitchbros awesome thank you man!
@@slowpitchbros why would those be your recommendations? They just drop compression quick?
Can we get a demarini juggy review
Need an ASA/USA warstick
That fog tho. Halloween edition
pacific northwest mornings babyyyyy
@@slowpitchbros nice. I've never been, I hope to one day.
"I need this knob in my life" 🤣
😂
If they’re using the same tech as for baseball then they may be testing the limit of that tech in this space
@warstic is the 27oz passing compression?
yes
We need a Chad sighting soon.
Putting this next to the axe bat I'm choosing this!! no shit the axe bat is garbage
Just put a rubber taper on the handle and throw some grip tape on it, same thing as the Warstick
From my experience, it’s pretty difficult to replicate that handle perfectly
What batting gloves do u use?
Bruce bolt
7:05 Who hurt the doggo?!?!?
Hahaha it saw the softballs and got excited
@@slowpitchbros The fog/mist look in the distance was great atmosphere for this video.
Hittin bombs in Silent Hill
Hecho in China?
From this video it looks like Warstic should lease out the rights to this handle and bat knob to some of the other big bat companies who make better bats.
Do bats for non testing !
On fat guys review. His tested at 300psi
Anarchy Next
230 NIW is called cheating by a bat company specially for a 240 bat. Even a 220 bat . 1000% or it’s been sent to you shaved. Bats at 230 are senior sticks. Made that way for 40+ senior players.
Or someone skipped the cert payment and slapped that 240 on
@@donalda8017 1000%. There is a company out there right now that does it.. been doing it for a while.
@@JasonMcewenJMAC which company is that?
hope they had a warranty...lol
Next year hopefully lol
Yeah I made the mistake of buying the Bonesaber and I hate it.
Knob cuff? Lol
Neeeeewwwwwwwkkkkkkssssssuhhhhh & laaaaaaazeeeeeeeer beeeeeeeeeeeeeemmmmmmmzzzzzzuhhhhhh
NDM2
My daughter tried the warstic fastpitch bats and they were trash!
Cut the handle and weld it to another bat 😂😂
Day 34 of saying 2016 or 2018 Demarini Steele
I don't like the color on that softball version
Dammm nasty bat lol
You lost me at the $350 price tag
Hit usssa balls. New bats are made for what balls used in sanctions
That’s what a Dudley Thunder Zn Pro M is - it’s the official ball of USSSA
@@slowpitchbros yes but they make usssa pro m in usssa 44-375, 40-325, and a 52-200
These ones we’re using are the official USSSA tournament Pro M ball
@@slowpitchbros 10-4 guess it’s all where ya play. In Virginia we gotta hit 40s or 52s
Actually almost all companies say to break thier bats in now with asa 52/300s because they are a softer ball.
Putting 100+ swings on this with harder utrip balls would of broke it faster
So, basically, bottom 5? Lol
It just sounds junky. Wrong sound.
Epic Fail lol.
First?
Sound alone would be enough to make me stay away. Sounded like a worse version of LS bats.
These new bats are such trash. Why would anyone buy a bat that wont even last 1 season?????
Might be the worst bats I've seen you guys review.
Sooo, they suck