Cohh's Thoughts On Wolcen: Lords of Mayhem
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- Опубликовано: 9 фев 2025
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I bought this because of off line single player for days when the internet is wonky on my end.. haven't had more than a few crashes on exit and 2 way point losses but i figured out if I quit to menu before exiting the game then no way point loss. Other than that I am having fun. If you find the bosses too hard you can switch to the easier mode if needed. Both my boyfriend and I are having fun
I have always crash when i exit the game,don't know how this affect the game since my character and progression doesn't reset ( after i change my user name in windows because Wolcen.. )
@@The_Warlord_of_Blood I used to crash like that too back in beta, but ever since I made a clean install of the game for the release I never got this bug again... you might want to do a clean reinstall if you had the game installed during the beta testing, might be the cause since leftover files from the beta might not be getting along.
@@retromastery7010 i have made like 4 clean installs,i believe this has something to do with the fact that i have change the folder where wolcen save offline characters,but it is o.k.. 🙂
@Евгений Богатырёв i am sorry,i don't understand what you want to say..
I’m glad I got the early access when I did. I’m having a blast in offline mode though
If they can iron out the critical bugs such as the money duping, unlimited magic find stacking, character progress loss etc, and then some of the other bugs (weird ui bugs, hitboxes etc) as well as the server issues in a timely manner (like in a week) I believe we may have a very very good game on our hands. I personally am remaining pretty optimistic as I see a lot of potential in the future.
But that's only IF they manage to solve all the major problems quickly.
The thing is that they had to release the game since they ran out of money essentially. That's why they had very low expectations for launch online players and why it has been a shitshow regarding that part of the game. I think the issue is that they set out (on kickstarter) to do an impossible task with their size.
@@NewbOoyNS Yeah that's what me and my friend had deduced as well. Considering that I'm more than willing to be patient and give them the benefit of the doubt and see where it goes in the next couple of months, on top of that I'm actually having a lot of fun with the game.
When you look at disasters like Fallout 76 and Warcraft 3 Reforged it's kinda hard not to be forgiving in this case considering those companies have several billions in their pockets LOL.
GamerGogeta fucking getting sick of games coming out broken but still full price
It's a team of 20 people, they fix stuff but I'd bet it won't be quick
i allways support small team and buy the game if its decent.
Fun fact about lost characters on exit..If your user name on Windows has any character besides english,Wolven doesn't recognise it there for it doesn't save your character..Yeap that's the reason..
Wow thats weird.
Anestis huh. Do numbers count?
'english characters' I don't think the english invented our writing, rather some sumerians/egyptians.
@@gamingmedley6619 i have no idea..If you have numbers and you loose your character then yes..
@@Zaitekno i don't know what the invented or not..i know that if you want to play wolcen and save your offline character then your username in windiws have to be in english without special letters like "ε" or "ä"..
i will say this, the game has potential... however it still needed at least 6 months in the oven. and im not even talking about the server issues, i understand that multiplayer games now have to deal with an absurd influx of players that they just might not be ready "day 1"... but its a diferent story when you talk about skill modifiers and passive nodes not working or gameplay aspects being half baked.
if you dive into their forums you will notice ALOT of things just dont do what they are supposed. and this is a MASSIVE nono for this type of game.
There were two passive nodes I selected that did nothing. I was penalized with the currency used to respec.
Bro this is a kickstarter game made by 20 people and you're expecting it to have less problems than games like diablo?
no, im not expecting it to have less problems than diablo, i do however expect it to have the skills working as intended.
@@marcosdheleno the skills do work as intended. As far as passives, some may not work OR the benefit isn't clearly explained leading to confusion about how it should be working. I've had 0 issues with passives
@@theartistformerlyknownasth8612 the point is kiddo, you dont release products that were PAID FOR when the product is NOT FINISHED. thank god you dont run a business.
Devs abandoned the game on GOG during alpha without any warning or reason given to those who backed it there. Not going anywhere near either game or devs after that.
If I could use a controller to move with the analog stick, this game would be pushed to another tier. Devs said they are working on it, so I’m excited.
There's already a configuration for steam called blaggies or something similar, I've been using my xbox controller since release
you have to see this: WOLCEN IS A PERFECTLY BALANCED GAME WITH NO EXPLOITS - How to be the richest person in the world from The Spiffing Brit
I hate all of his titles. I liked him for a second but his titles fucking kill me.
10 hours played over the weekend and not a single bug or crash.
I gave up on this game yesterday. It is so god damn buggy and glitchy. hits from my abilities dont even register that alone is something that just ruins the game for me. I'll give a try again in 1 or 2 months til they fix this mess.
We live in an age where it's best to wait a year or 2 when games release to get the proper experience.
Unfortunately true. Essentially gone are the days when you could buy a complete game on release day. It takes multiple patches and updates for most games to be release worthy.
The game sounds really fun and I would buy this in an eye-blink.
That being said, losing progress is the largest red flagg that a game could have.
I don't even have to wait till the devs fixed it, I will have to wait till nobody mentioned for a while that this happened again.
I lost mine at the beginning to and was realy angry,but i give the Game a GO again after 1-0-3-0.And no lost again.But if you afraid about loosing Progress,play offline and save your Saves from Time to Time.Its lang ago that a Hack n Slay get me so hard like Wolcen.
There was never really any progression wipes, it was a database issue and they fixed it. Even now if it happens, all you have to do is reload the map a cpl times
@@theartistformerlyknownasth8612 "Even now if it happens, all you have to do..." is absolutely f*cking nothing, since I surely won't jump through hoops in order to avoid problems.
The only thing that I would do afterwards is refund the game and play something that works.
@@keen7youtubeistoast796 well since you haven't played it and are only going off unconfirmed internet rumors, I'd say what you'd do theoretically is irrelevant.
@@keen7youtubeistoast796 as I said before, there was never any actual progression loss. Everybody has all the gear and levels they had before the crash. The problem is that sometime things that were in one database weren't being transfered to another but you still had those items. They've fixed it now and it's not an issue. I've got a lvl 60 character and I've had 0 issues
I don't understand how can these games justify these prices when Path of Exile the current Industry leader in ARPG is Free
This game is great, from an indie 40 person studio its quite the achievement. Disappointing about the online thing but they will get it worked out, for now its been fun playing offline.
So, is this the "new norm" in the video game industry where games will be released when they are not really ready to be released and then the devs spend the next year fixing it? The first huge one that I remember being like that was No Man's Sky, but maybe there were others. Is this just the way that things are going to be from now on?
Been the 'norm' for years now.
I wouldn't throw no man's sky in there. They just went way way to big the map is toooooooo much, and atleast they did and still are fixing problems
You just realized that?
The game was ready, the developers were accustomed to a server load of around 2k people. No way in hell is a indie development team of 39 people with this first game lauch EVER is going to be prepared to handle 100k+ people jumping onto their servers. My guess is they just didn't know how much their game was gonna sell.
i paid $30 a few days before release and it's up to $40 now in the USA. glad i bought early even though servers have been down for 2 days. i'm patient.
just play offline w tf
This game is awesome. But I made a mage, put everything into ferocity, and then the whole game was way too easy.
I played offline with a ferocity bleeding edge build, and it was great. Now that online works, I'm trying out a full wisdom poison mage, which looks like a lot of fun.
Than play Stormfall after that Campagne and you will get your kick in your Ass))
Crit builds are definitely op in this game. Fun game, but I wish there was more build variety.
The game is $15 where I live (South Africa) So I find the $45 price you give here to be quite strange seeing as a $30 price difference is quite huge.
the glory of regional pricing.
It was only 30 5 days ago they increased the price before release. Kind of shady
@@ZackyDaley That is NOT shady, wtf are you talking about!? Its totally normal for EA games to be cheaper, and with the price rises when the final release is there. Are you new here?
I paid 10 back in 2018 😎
@@Nookiezilla go away plebe.
im in Act 3 atm, loved the game so far. Act 2 was extra nice. Last boss on that arc was extra interesting.
After reaching Act 3 in Offline Mode my game has been either completely resetting my progress through the game, or it crashes every 15 minutes.
Online play back up with numerous fixes as of a few minutes ago.
Aaaaand it's down again.
Nope it's still up I was online 10min ago
@@crystalgraham86 Aaaaand it's up again.
Sounds like the D3 launch all over again.
I'll give an actual small indie company a break though lol.
When they were in beta, ea whatever ya wanna call it. Their peak player base was around 2k. Release day...95k players. 30 man dev team was in no way prepared for that kind of wild spike in player base
@@shea7323 They are now over something like 120k+ players lol, No way in hell a indie dev of 39 people with their first game launch EVER is prepared to handle that amount of server load. They probably had no idea how popular their game was going to be.
Grim dawn on gog for 5$ I rest my case
This is better
Yes old games tend to be cheaper, what's your point? Are you never gonna buy a newer game because you can buy old ones for cheap (or even get them for free)? Wolcen is a new experience and also does a lot of things better than Grim Dawn. There's no reason to automatically go to a cheaper option.
@@btnhstillfire If you have a low IQ and Like Sheablo 3
whats your point?? Why people keep acting like you should only play 1 game for *** sake just play both they are both fun. I love POE i love D2 and D3 i like Grim Dawn and i like Wolcen whats the problem with liking more games. Why does everybody wants to say no no no THIS IS THE BEST ARPG! Dont play that one?
POE free , I rest my case. BUT this is not POE, it is not Grim Dawn, it is Wolcen. If you want to go play Grim dawn then I am happy you know where to get it for $5.
Dude you are the best.. I don't watch you enough but when I do I enjoy it so much! Keep up the good work!
Mentions the price with playtime in a game that has endgame that continues, but not about the latest star wars game that includes back tracking in it's playtime :)))
Yeah, seemed very strange to pick on this game, and yet not all those "AAA titles" of 5-6 hours playtime and "press X to win" mechanics plus a $60 price tags. It's almost like he's working for IGN these days (it's a 10/10 game guys, as the cheque arrived in the post..) :)
Extant competition in a genre is relevant to that, though.
@@trickyrat483 Fallen Order is around 16 hours of gameplay. So I am not sure whats your point here.
I don't get why people mention the campaign/story in arpgs when it comes to justifying prices. I wouldn't say people don't care about the story, but I'd hazard a guess most players don't just play these games for the story then drop it lol. So i think it's a silly point to even bring up in this genre.
As someone who has played wolcen since the first day it released in Alpha years ago, this game was looking to be revolutionary in the genre. However, as time went on the game transformed into a simple linear clone of POE and Diablo 3 but less fun than both of those. This was so unfortunate as the open world, skills, weapons, progression were so much better and exciting. The character customization had so many options with sliders that made every character you created extremely unique. RIP the Wolcen that could have been.
I'm glad I paid like $15 for this back in EA. Haven't able to get online all weekend, they should have delayed launch another month.
if u think ur pc is buggy playing this check ur temps....my were in the 85 degree range for cpu and gpu
Oh Dear,if your PC runs with 85dg than you need a bigger Vantilator,mine is running with all MAX at 55-60 Degree.I got I7-7700k last Gen with Geforge 2060/8 g and 16 gb ddr4 3400
@@woolfman9394 seems a lot of people are making the same assumptions online but my original comment was to make ppl aware it not always the game being buggy... it's the games optimisation being really harsh on the cpu, if you can play red dead 2 at high settings with med temps but wolcen is 85 pints not justifiable to blame the hardware imo when I have 100 games that run fine
My PC was plugged into an extension where a family member plugged two extra devices in with it reducing the available power...I'm guessing the fan couldn't do what it needed to... so it's now plugged directly into the wall and thriving at reasonable temps tho still the highest of all my games lol, learned my lesson but u never know this might help someone out.
@@2killzore Hm idk,
I testet today with some no Cooldown for skill cheats and go in a lvl 60 Dungeon.I used alltime the biggest aoe Skill and have 50 Enemys around me and my Grafik Card runs with max 65 Degrees and the Cpu run max at 45% with 60 Degrees.Can be that other Stuff makes your Pc running at highest lvl?I dont use any Antivir and WinDevender is off.So check your task Manager next Time you play Wolcen and look what Prozess takes all your Power.
Glad you loved it cohh
Servers have been up consistently since last night EST, smooth as silk with no noticeable bugs. Problems FIXED.
All that stuff is to be expected. Just to get the game released was a huge task. They will get stuff fixed.
Its hard but I have some patience left. I understand its indie. But, i really hope they get the servers back online. I seriously dont even care if they whipe the servers and start fresh. I only have a few hours invested i will start over no worries. Not sure why they are working so hard to restore save states of people who barely even played anyway when they just missed out on their first weekend of launch, seems silly.
I'm able to play online now
I don't know if it's just for few people right now though
@@crystalgraham86 you were right I was able to play. They didnt mention it on their Twitter which is the only place they seemed to update people. I just went to play offline and bam online logged right in and I played for a few hours. Woot.
As expected...a game launching with 70 untested levels, and 2 un-playtested acts. ALMOST FIVE YEARS... this game...in the making, and they release like this. After having two characters get bogged down in act 2 around lvl 30. Uninstalled.
In those 5 years they only had 13 ppl working on it
People also need to bear in mind that not only is the dev team only around 39-40 people, this is also their first game and first Launch EVER. If you love ARPG's, you'll stick it out. I'm willing to cut them a tremendous amount of slack, something I would never be willing to do with Blizzard for example. The game has massive amounts of potential to dominate the ARPG market, It just needs time.
Was having ton of fun until Act 2 where I now suffer from crash after crash in one specific area. Very frustrating.
The amount of customization and abilities in this game is insane, so many variants ! Other than the bugs this game is awesome..
This made me wanted to wait to buy it. I was ready to put in my credit card numbers but then i saw this video xD . Thanks man.
They didn't bother to fix major bugs and exploits from alpha and beta from like 3 years ago
Thanks for the review man!.
My personal opinion is that the game is still in beta and the release was a money grab... Let's not be naive and think that they didn't knew about the major bugs and current game state... Anyhow, hope you guys are having fun!.
even if you do 0 endgame 10 hours of smooth game play for 40$ looks fine on my books, the campaign was top quality with pretty nice moments, act2 was way better than anything i have seen on any other arpg and i have played everything else.The game has been in development for 5 years so all this money was overdue for the developers, it looks promising if they keep updating it.
@@JohnOldman I wouldn't call current state of the game "smooth" and the game being 5 years in development... Insane that what is being delivered is still a Beta and not a finished product.
@@DunklaAlfabet just because you call it "beta" doesn't mean it is. Have you bought ANY game in the last 5-10 years that hasn't had an update at some point that fixes bugs, improves performance, or adds something new to the game? No. Because of technology, this is what gaming is now. So yes, it's got some issues, but the 40 man Dev team is going to keep working on it, and the game will improve. I've come across less bugs in this indie game in the 5 hours I've played than the first two hours of ANY Bethesda game in the last 7 years. And those were "finished" launches.
I don't get how you say the campaign takes 10 hours when your playthrough that you filmed is almost 20 hours?
The campaign can take up to average 10 hours to finish but carnage could’ve just taken his time playing the game
@@evancrazy906 The reason I'm asking is because I didn't watch his playthrough. I've been taking my time playing through the game and am just finishing the first act of the three at around 11-12 hours or so.
This has been with me exploring literally every nook and cranny and doing every random dungeon along the way though.
And it's not as if I'm some pleb who can't play an ARPG lol-- I've probably had a thousand + hrs in D3 and a few hundred into PoE... not to mention the years as a teenager playing D2 etc.
I just was really surprised at the discrepancy in the time taken in his playthrough, the time it's taking me albeit intentionally slow, and the 10 hours mentioned in the video and want to make sure this small indy game created by 12 people is getting a fair shake.
Hence me asking the question. Not trying to be a dick or anything lol-- legitimately curious.
Dont know where you bought it but on steam its 34,99 Euros. = 37,79 US Dollars.
Honestly I love your honesty and fantastic content.
Wolcen is a peice of mess with zero testing before launch, DO NOT BUY! The last uber boss doesn't even drop loot!
The game is $40 US. Don’t know why he’s saying 45. Also I bought it from the developers’ site for 30.
Apparently the price depends on the region. Quite common.
happzy not when Cohh and I are the same region.
It is 38.55 Dollars in Denmark when converted from Euro to Dollars. He probably just made a mistake.
No offence but the current endgame feels more like what other games would have as a placeholder so i wouldn't call it developed. Especially considering that the game has no sets, very few unique items and legendaries are just better rares. The whole city thing is basically just an immense gold sink with a few interesting rewards.
if i play single by myself would it matter if i'm playing offline or online?
Then you can play offline so you'll be able to play even if servers are down.
offline and online are 2 seperate characters, so only if you never care about doing anything with anyone else.
Took 10 hours to do all 3 acts? That's crazy. I'm 15 hours in and not even done with act 2.
I don't think he realized how long he took, his videos add up to about 20 hours of play time.
I got my ass handed to me from some bosses lol, I never thought arpg story could be challenging
Unfortunately the challenge is kind of because of unfair systems and just bad game design. First encounter with the act 1 boss was frustrating and after winning didn't even feel satisfying.
Act 1 boss Edric is borderline unfair without the right build. Unfortunately, the right build really boils down to dumping most of your points into Ferocity and crit related stats to mow down everything. Fun game, but I wish there was more variety beyond "go crit or die".
@@tizodd6 that's because edric is what's called a gatekeeper. He's hard like that yo force you to have a good build, for what coming in the later levels. Many RPGs do this
@@lorenzomorgan9458 since when is learning bosses attack patterns, unfair and bad design?
@@nightshade7240 what level are you in wolcen?
So strange the price is 45 there? Here inn eu its 30
I feel like Skill Up did a better job here honestly. Clearly there's the difference between a 3 minute video and a 30 minute video, but there was just... not a lot of depth into the actual game here.
I bought this game because im tired of lazy ass Blizzard and wanted to supports the devs.
After five years, this?!
Keep in mind it's from a small dev team, around 25 people, and it's a lot better than Diablo 3 with 1000 devs team and billions behind the production. Also it gonna get improved more and more, with updates etc. It's just released, give it some time.
No Cohh Op element? monkaW
Wait, this is a released game?
Honestly thought it was in some sort of beta or another.
It's beta, but these days open or closed beta tend to mean release... IMO this game is in the classic closed beta stages, could do with a few more weeks/months of polish.
Bugs and server issues aside, this game is not as good as what's already on the market.
Like Diablo Immortal? hahahahaha
ColdWavE Grim Dawn, PoE, Last Epoch, Diablo 3
@@Francisah grim dawn has been dead a while and wasn't that good, d3 is on season 500 and played out and Poe is to much grind and shitty drops for 99% of the player base
@@Francisah bro wolcen is a kickstarter made by 20 people, that fact that you're even comparing it to bigger titles really says a lot in favor of the game
mmmh... weird, I see a ton of comments about people having huge game breaking bugs but... I've yet to run into one of these, even minor bugs like animation getting stuck or not being able to pick up stuff on the ground never happened to me... I guess it's just me who is super lucky since I rarely get bugs like these in any game I play... only Skyrim or bethesda games in general had bugs like these for me personally
There are more likely ppl commenting with issues than ppl with no issues.
In endgame you can find actual maps (treasure maps) they have standart colors, blue =magic, yellow=rate etc. You even can farm uber bosses (harder bosses from campaning) more im in endgame more things i can do and after they will fix most of the major bugs and will add more content wolcen will be much better than diablo 3 imo it already is.
I'm playing it right now, lv33 finishing Act 2. The game is good but very buggy, you can tell it's a small studio's first game, it still needs polishing. Quite expensive for what it is tbh.
nm.. just went up to 40$ on steam... but it will be on sale again .. no worries
I love the campaign, completed it offline, but due to bugs still can't play online :(
Online servers are now working.
I'm enjoying it. That's all that matters.
Online us working fine now
The only thing i realy didnt like about the game is the low amount of skills. Like the fireball is the only fire spell in the game.
The passiv skilltree could be a little bit bigger.
The rest is relly great so far.
the online is working now and the other bugs coming this week
Can I play my offline char online or do I have to create a new char?
Still have massive issues getting past “authentication failed.” So rip online
ive been enjoying this alot , but the freezing is painful :/
Why is everybody acting blind, and not saying this is DIablo 3 with reskin and bigger passive skill tree. other than that it is same fucking game ,even some maps look insanely similar, and armors look like Diablo 3 crusader. Iwas really hyped for them game, nut got my refund yeasterday, after being unable to play online and seeing how shallow it is. no repetitivnes. why would anyone play this over POE
In south east Asia this game is a little over 10 dollars, such a bargain!
dont think its worth 30 euro. alot of buggs and thing dont work in offline like talents, pets build . in online much worse... they gona need more time then 3 day to fix it...
I have two questions.
Is there a hardcore mode and how is the pvp?
Thanks for a good insight video. 👍
// best regards
No hardcore mode and no pvp yet but is planned.
After completing game on normal I believe a Veteran difficulty mode opens up?
bleeding edge is broken I do 500K Crits with bad gear and i cant post my guide on reddit
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I feel this game isn't ready yet. I bought it and played till the end of ACT I. Killed last boss, which is challenging because he hits hard and moves quite fast.
I will wait a feel months, maybe even a year, just keep an eye on its progress. Sad that nowadays games come out unfinished. This should be a closed beta version, not a final release.
Game has some nice elements, but overall nothing special... got bored after 3 hours (poor man's mix of PoE and Diablo)!
same
Can't call it poor man's Poe since POE is a free game XD.Still it's hard making a game as good as Poe since it's has years of polish.More competition is always good for the market so I don't mind.
That pretty much sums it up nicely.. they probably invested lot of money into advertisment like this one here (all these positive opinions about nothing special at all..) they should invested that money into the game instead...
In 3 hours u havent done shit. U dont even have all the modifiers unlocked. Why even try talking about a game u have seen maybe 10% of?
@@btnhstillfire lol, I've seen what's game based on... I've seen most of the skills, I've seen whole tech tree... the rest of the game is just pointless click fest untill I get better gear. I have life and lot of hobbies, I don't play games to research some specific build to be "the best" or get 1% better dmg after 900000 our of grinding for some specific item roll... game is just boring after 3 hours, ok I played like 5 or 6 to be honest.
In PoE at least you need some time untill you get all the gems + the variety of mixing is insane...
Not a bad game, just not as good as its competitors
Even with the bugs it's still miles ahead of D3 and PoE in terms of visuals and customization, but ok lol.
Freezes and boots me back to main menu constantly. Actually unplayable. :(
Online Co-op game? Good luck trying that in PoE/D3... people just run off in random directions, doing THEIR things... Glad this one has an offline mode.
D3 for all its flaws in the end did have a fantastic co-op feel to it. 2, 3 or 4 players always felt balanced in terms of clearspeed and movespeed. Always super fun to play with friends and even randoms back in the day on that game. Poe on the other hand is an absolute mess for co-op. Always has been and GGG don't seem to have any intention of trying to make co-op any better.
@@truuuupR Yeah, so much fun, some speed runner killing rift guardian 5 level ahead of the rest, no time to even get the loot, so much fun, yeah. People running in all directions, aggroing mobs, yeah, so much fun... You wanna do rift, some dude opening Grift, some other doing bounties... so much fun...
@@hubertET damn you need some better friends lol.
stop reporting old issues guys. patch 1.0.2.0ER doesnt have any character lost or progression lost issues in offline! in online read the news there is a problem with the databases they are fixing it if not already fixed!
Maybe for you, i using the new patch but still can't keep my characters in offline, yes i can do the edit thing but i wait for a better fix.
@@arck2n you are losing progress? or the entire character file? if is progress issue make sure your have all your AV amd especially windows defender disabled...and that folder has security.access to the user "everyone" full permission rights, and that when you want to exit... first exit to main menu and then the game.
@@johnnyxp64 Still no luck, and i lose the progress only. Not even my options save, i put all in very high but need to restart to apply and when i reset everything is in medium again. I don't have much time to play or only this game to play, i hope they find a solution for everyone in future. Gonna wait for a fix until new league of POE starts before i refund it.
Thanks for the help anyways.
@@arck2n something is very strange with your system. go to wolcen forums. post screenshots and details. i cant help more here
Multistage boss fights infuriate me. Rage quit the game. Still glad there is an offline option and happy my money went to support a company that still sees value in offline game play.
Is it $45 CAD? AUD? Because its $40 USD.
60 AUD
I am having tons of fun playing POE, this game is incredible
Love him but I don’t know why Cohh defends broken games and saying “ the developers are working their assess off to fix it”. That should’ve be done before releasing the game.
It's a great game with easy to fix problems. Give it a month or two and it will be amazing.
Rike TCO “ Easy to fix” should’ve been done before releasing, like I said. No wonder devs can release so many unfinished games this generation because folks like you defend them
They did. But since u havent followed the game for 5 years u wont know shit.
@@rentadawg bro they are an indie dev who were swamped by demand they didn't expect. This isnt blizzard backed by Activision this isnt bioware backed by EA it's like a 30 person team in France that had a player base spike from 1-2k concurrent players to 80k literally overnight. Y'all need to grow up waiting a few days to fix servers isn't going to kill you.
@Colin Deal ya even with paid promotors they maybe planned for 20-40k players not fucking 80k lol. Like really think about that number. On any given day path of exile doesn't do anywhere near those numbers and it's probably the 2nd most popular ARPG behind Diablo
I need PC my PC is strugling with game. But the game is great rly
How does it compare to Hades?
I would get HADEs over this Garbage. If you like Sheablo 3 you will like Wolcen. If you like Your character to lose all progress over half way through the game you'll love wolcen. If you like Passives that dont do anything you'll love Wolcen.
I have hades, it's not bad at all. But I prefer this any day.
Wouldn't really compare the two, their kind of different. But both are fun.
I saw some videos of Hades on steam and it looks really good and the reviews are extremely good. How does it compare to a game like this or D3?
@@Adol666 are you on a crusade or something, man go outside and take a walk LUL
Some1 isnt happy that he "lost" his hard earned money (from his mom)
30-40$/€ isnt even alot
At least i dont have to pay real money to transmod loving the game the game looks better then some of the others aswell
Curious to know how you completed the game in just 10 hours. Did you just completely skip the cutscenes and skip every dungeon?
i did not skip anything, reach endgame by hour 15 or 16.
10 $ for early access
It's a no from me fam
With PoE being free... is this worth the $$$????
I think so. Path of exile is great, but it still feels like a free to play game IMO. When looking at what a game is worth, the only thing that should matter is "Will I be entertained?" If you can enjoy a game regardless of some bugs and technical issues (which will be fixed eventually. Servers are already doing much better) then I think this game is very much worth it.
@@NBLDMN I'll wait for a sale...or darksiders genesis gets my money first atm it's more complete
@@nonnel0355 and that's entirely up to you and I respect your choice 😁
Ranged bug annoying
a mash up of Path of Exile and D3....i kinda lost interest the moment i came across the loot goblin from D3 in the levels.
If something like caused you to "lose interest" I highly doubt you were that interested to begin with. Especially considering it's way more polished and better looking than both PoE and D3 combined.
@@veliona8920 I was interested as alot of reviews said this game was awesome, but when a company blatantly uses a concept from Diablo instead of coming up with a new idea...well...no. Yes its polished and looks ok, but i couldnt play online, the hacking/duping/exploits has already started and from what im hearing the offline game play is only about 10 hours....does this ring any bells?? Like the launch of D3 ?????
@@catlee8064 Ironic that you would talk about using concepts from another company, especially when it has been a big part of what Blizzard does for years. It's not a bad thing to refine concepts and make them better, most videogame company have done this, even board games... I understand being bored by the game, but that line made me laugh sorry.
@@goglux2 make them better? Polish them? You did read about the hacking/duping etc part of my comment? The offline only as the servers drop out? the crap off line play? At which point is this better than D3 or PoE apart from the gfx?
@@catlee8064 Honestly when they have has much time as those dev to make the game stable maybe? People forget that the game they compare this to had weird starts too. POE less than D3 which was a mess on launch. I mean D3 of all things you'd have expected to go smooth, yet it didn't and they had experience and they had ressources of a AAA studio. I'm not saying Wolcen is perfect, but you have to take into account that they are an medium indie game dev. It's also their first game. I'm not saying people shouldn't be angry at those fail, just that it should be put in perspective when criticizing the game. Most games with an online aspect will have a hard time on launch day no matter what, it's a numbers thing. In this case the overwhelming number of people trying to log at the same time exploded their login server. In the end I think Cohh basically resumed it pretty well. In the end I don't mind it much because of the factors I said earlier and I'm willing to give new studios a chance....
Just talking about the bugs isn't really fair. The game runs fine, is great so far, and I am playing on an old laptop with Nvidia GT 755m crappy card. Hasn't crashed. It's also well priced. There are some mechanics in the game that are worth talking about with the skill system and thats its an actual RPG, unlike Diablo 3
I am curious about the end game though.. If it sucks then meh
Take it from someone who has put in 30 hours in offline mode... stay far, FAR away from this game. They made sure the game looked good but little else. The skills/skill trees are boring and most of them do not work as advertised or at all. There is a total of TWO(2) builds I was able to make work, and it's more like a variation of the same build. There's only a handful of passives in the skill tree that are worth grabbing/function properly. If you watch streamers you'll notice they are all using mostly the same abilities on their characters, that is because there's some that are MUCH better than the rest. For instance, thinking about playing a summoner build? LMAO. They literally do not scale. At all. The passive increases in the skill tree for summons are either broken or just far too weak. Even the items are lame as hell. There's hardly any build defining stuff at all. It's like early D3 where well rolled yellows were bis. Campaign was short(forgivable for an arpg, I guess) and the endgame is far too repetitive. Your character feels complete way too soon and doesn't evolve much, you're basically just making the numbers bigger. I would have refunded but by the time I realized how shallow and buggy the game really is, it was passed the 2 hours played grace period.
going on 4 days without online play rn... -.-*
Has anyone ever been around for any game release ever? Releases are always buggy and even companies like Blizzard, who at least used to be known as being perfectionists, have tons of bugs on release (as well as cheap exploits).
Wolcen is Diablo 3 lite, and that's embarassing.
How
It's literally 100 times better than D3 in both visuals and customization. I'll have whatever it is that you're smoking lmao.
Full game fully tested lots of fun this game is not
I'll get it when it'll costs 20 €
Why, as gamers in 2020, we're oki with these mediocre terrible value early access pieces of crap? The games a buggy mess, peoples saves being deleted etc.. but because people are so desperate for a new game they'll overlook anything.. This game was only released in it's current state because the developers knew it wouldn't hold up to future release and they wanted their cosmetic system added before the competition wipes them out.
But hey ARPG LIKE DIABLO BUY BUY EVEN THOUGH IT'S A BUGGY UNFINISHED CRAP.
You got no right to speak for "everyone"
Yeah...early access, beta, and games-as-a-service are three things I really wish would go away. I miss the days when I could buy a complete game that didn't need to patched/updated umpteen times in the first few days/months of release. Now adays it's a crap shoot as to whether you're going to get a finished game or not.
@@NextBatterUp I can't help that you live under a bridge mate :D. It's got 55k viewers on twitch, all the poe streamers / arpg, even a few mmo streamers are playing it and I mean the youtube video your replying on is also currently playing it?
"we" was aimed at gamers.
@@PhoenixLive_YT Don't I? I have many rights and speaking is one of them? This isn't a personal only opinion, it's a fact.. The game is a buggy mess for EVERYONE, not just one or two people with different hardware, every body is suffering from bugs. Not release day bugs, the servers died for that, but Early access unfixed issues that have plagued the game throughout EA. Literally because of people like you that developers manage to get away with this crap over and over.
Because this is a kickstarter game with a very small design team. Get your refund and move on, what you're whining about comes off as entitled.
Love it 2....love U 2
29$ on steam
so all BLA BLA BLA AND BLAAA....