For reference the twin turbo 300zx cost $40,000 in 1998 which is equivalent to $75,000 today. I think a lot of people walk around wearing rose colored glasses and are struck by sticker shock of the number when in reality these top of the line sports cars have always been for the business men and the wealthy
@CyFi6 reality? Nobody wants to see reality. Get the truth out of here. Everyone came to complain, stamp our feet, feel bad, do nothing, and be told what to parrot.
15:42 "That is about $12,000 more...that is a pretty big bump for Recaro seats and an extra 20hp." My guy doesn't even know how comprehensive the Nismo package actually is. This is the most incorrect take on the Nismo package I've seen on any of the reviews. The new Z is not a baragain by any stretch, but the Nismo package - just the package - is actually a great deal from the factory. Custom Rays forged wheels, higher performance tires, larger front brakes, revised body kit, Recaro seats, revised 9AT with more clutch packs and retuned logic, larger oil cooler, ignition timing system from the GT-R, totally revised suspension including firmer bushings and sway bars, added underbody chassis braces, more power, and special paint colors. As just a package, the Nismo option offers quite a lot for $12,000. The issue is the "base" price for the performance trim is too high for too little. Final thought: there are dealers near me offering the Nismo Z for under MSRP ($3,300 discount). You can get these for less.
A friend of mine has this exact nismo z, and honestly coming from a Supra owner the nismo z is more fun than my own Supra, plus the steering wheel and seats are just chefs kiss real talk.
And people complain about it because its a old platform and doesn’t have big screens and good technology that it should have in todays date, but honestly the nismo z simplicity is top notch, makes you feel like you inside of a space ship ready to take off but also remembering all the ogs such as the 240z, 300z, and with its 370z chassis and interior.
Incredibly overpriced for what it is. For $66K, You can get an M2 which is much more capable, better equipped, higher HP, superior technology and more comfortable at the same time. A Mustang Dark Horse is also a more capable competitor. These will need heavy discounts to move
Just don't get the ugly one. I'd much rather go for the previous gen's classic look. Either way, they're both more capable and enjoyable than the Nismo Z. But I also agree with Alex. Building up from the Base or even the Performance is a more attractive option.
There isn’t any indication the M2 is a better performer at this point since that head to head hadn’t happened yet. But yes they have more space and a nicer interior.
What they did to the Nismo is what needed to be done to the regular new Z, not an addon overpriced trim. That front end and styling is so much better. The regular Z looks so ugly
The only reviewer that made the more fair comparison to the Supra which is the 45th anniversary edition. In my area, the 45th Supra is marked up by 15-20K more whereas you can get a Z Nismo at or even a bit below MSRP.
Aye I’ve long hoped they would redesign the Q50/60 with the Z changes. Alas they seem content to let it wither on the fine till they have an EV replacement.
Great video. Yea the warranty is key here. Also finding someone who does a good job if you blow up your engine isn’t easy. Also, the stress of having all this happen. This car is pretty cool. I think it’s a great car too. Need to drive it one day.
The price is off putting... But I guess if you're someone like me that doesn't want to do all the aftermarket work, it's the price of entry in 2023-2024. Everything is expensive. But I think I'd still go with a 6-spd Performance with a better set of tires and maybe an ECU tune. I don't plan to track it, and live in Houston so there's not much in the likes of nice backroads nearby.
If I were designing it, the fenders would actually be wider than the performance model, not widened with stick ons. BMW does this with the M2, it actually is wider, not with stick on plastic. Also it needs magnetic ride and manual and the choice of colors on other Z's. They are pretty far away from competing with the Supra yet.
I have tried to buy a 2024 Nismo today and unfortunately Nissan is selling their cars through chiselers. After being quoted $68,500.00 for the car by a Nissan dealers salesperson, I agreed to buy the car. Two hours later I get a communication from the chiseler/dealer saying there is $10k up charge being applied to the agreed upon price. Shame on Nissan for allowing such dishonorable sales practices. I have owned a Datsun 240z and 260z and was really excited about the new Z, but now "to be honest" I could not be more disappointed by this business practice, allowed by Nissan.
The new z has be out two years is not like old z especially twin turbo not be like 350z & 370z those cars when the Came out they were under $40k for top of line now u pay $70k plus for top of line with taxes and twice turbo !
Nice review I'm not sure I agree with everything but you didn't go into the review having already decided to hate this car like the people replying It's sad this car is so close to being a great car but falls short but at least Nissan uses it's own engine .And one last thing for sure it's over priced but cars like this are about to disappear so long term the used price might come back up .
$66,000! Makes the Z Performance seem like a bargain. Hope Nissan will offer a “track package” for the Z Performance with suspension/tire upgrade and bigger brakes for $3500. Get it with the manual, and you have the perfect Z!
1970-73 240 Z much better "investment". This will depreciate. An original 240 will appreciate and is way ahead in the cool factor. It's the same story, the original designs of the 60s and 70s cars have never been improved. Yes, safety, emissions, suspensions, etc are all better, but if you gave me one of these new Z cars I'd sell it fast and find a restored 240. Hey Alex, were you speeding on that winding road? 🤔 Be careful out there.
I call B.S. on Alex. If no one ever told him the Supra had a German chassis and engine after driving it, he would have never know the difference between that and a Japanese version. 🤥
Meh - I’ll stick with my paid off 370z. No car payments = good place to be during an economic self destruction mode…. There will be deals to be had in the used market for those facing inevitable job losses and “she took everything maaaaaan” divorce specials 😀
Way overpriced. Yikes. This should have been the Z for $45k, especially considering this is a 350Z underneath which the tooling has been paid off for decades now. I would normally complain about the lack of a manual transmission option, but truthfully this is so overpriced I would never consider it anyways
Shame on the Federal Reserve for enabling daddy government to monetize its haphazard debt spending and socializing the cost back onto the working class via inflation all while gaslighting the public and blaming covid ukraine and climate bs. What we really have going on here is corporate welfare via legalized racketeering via fiscal spending policies. And This behavior transcends BOTH sides of the isle.
Subaru coming for *EVERYONE* given an absolute *BOSS* of Rally Car even as standard. Huge fan of standard transmissions but totally understand why automatics with paddle shifters still remain all the rage. Drive modes I would presume but maybe not? If not huge oversight for the Nismo Z would be my gig on this a very impressive lineage going back an entire Lifetime(s) now. Long $hmc Honda Motor Corporation strong buy
Yooo can we stop with the Supra and BMW thing plz, it's getting old. The Supra is a great car for the price, if no one it wasn't from BMW no one would mention it.
Wow - once the regular guy’s sports car, these cars are out of reach for many of us.
You have inflation to thank for that. Everything is inflated with the exception of wages!
The World Economic Forum approves this message, now go eat bugs and own nothing
Was a regular working guy really able to afford a brand new Z back in the day? These Japanese sports cars have always been expensive brand new
For reference the twin turbo 300zx cost $40,000 in 1998 which is equivalent to $75,000 today. I think a lot of people walk around wearing rose colored glasses and are struck by sticker shock of the number when in reality these top of the line sports cars have always been for the business men and the wealthy
@CyFi6 reality? Nobody wants to see reality. Get the truth out of here. Everyone came to complain, stamp our feet, feel bad, do nothing, and be told what to parrot.
Now my first Nissan Z Nismo I want to buy.
Alex knows his cars !! great video !
15:42 "That is about $12,000 more...that is a pretty big bump for Recaro seats and an extra 20hp." My guy doesn't even know how comprehensive the Nismo package actually is. This is the most incorrect take on the Nismo package I've seen on any of the reviews. The new Z is not a baragain by any stretch, but the Nismo package - just the package - is actually a great deal from the factory. Custom Rays forged wheels, higher performance tires, larger front brakes, revised body kit, Recaro seats, revised 9AT with more clutch packs and retuned logic, larger oil cooler, ignition timing system from the GT-R, totally revised suspension including firmer bushings and sway bars, added underbody chassis braces, more power, and special paint colors. As just a package, the Nismo option offers quite a lot for $12,000. The issue is the "base" price for the performance trim is too high for too little. Final thought: there are dealers near me offering the Nismo Z for under MSRP ($3,300 discount). You can get these for less.
A friend of mine has this exact nismo z, and honestly coming from a Supra owner the nismo z is more fun than my own Supra, plus the steering wheel and seats are just chefs kiss real talk.
And people complain about it because its a old platform and doesn’t have big screens and good technology that it should have in todays date, but honestly the nismo z simplicity is top notch, makes you feel like you inside of a space ship ready to take off but also remembering all the ogs such as the 240z, 300z, and with its 370z chassis and interior.
they lost their mind with that price. this car was build for influencers
...or, you just need a better job...
Incredibly overpriced for what it is. For $66K, You can get an M2 which is much more capable, better equipped, higher HP, superior technology and more comfortable at the same time. A Mustang Dark Horse is also a more capable competitor. These will need heavy discounts to move
Just don't get the ugly one. I'd much rather go for the previous gen's classic look. Either way, they're both more capable and enjoyable than the Nismo Z. But I also agree with Alex. Building up from the Base or even the Performance is a more attractive option.
@@chiemekaai rather have the ugly one, not into pretty boy cars.😂
There isn’t any indication the M2 is a better performer at this point since that head to head hadn’t happened yet.
But yes they have more space and a nicer interior.
Alex knows his cars !! great video ! good ideas also !
That gear shifter looks special needs. Not sure WHAT Nissan was thinking but that POS need to go and put in a regular vertical shifter
The thumnail reminds me of.. Hyundai N. The color looks bit brighter than actual one.
1:19 255s in the rear 285s in the back
That's a tail happy car.
Haha I noticed that too. Was funny.
What they did to the Nismo is what needed to be done to the regular new Z, not an addon overpriced trim. That front end and styling is so much better. The regular Z looks so ugly
The only reviewer that made the more fair comparison to the Supra which is the 45th anniversary edition. In my area, the 45th Supra is marked up by 15-20K more whereas you can get a Z Nismo at or even a bit below MSRP.
As an Infiniti owner, this Nismo Z seems intriguing. It has all the performance my Q50 lacks, even with my mods. Looks like a fun car.
Aye I’ve long hoped they would redesign the Q50/60 with the Z changes.
Alas they seem content to let it wither on the fine till they have an EV replacement.
I bought this exact car. People are going CRAZY over it.
Nissan was like let us get a piece of the markup pie.
Great video. Yea the warranty is key here. Also finding someone who does a good job if you blow up your engine isn’t easy. Also, the stress of having all this happen. This car is pretty cool. I think it’s a great car too. Need to drive it one day.
No manual no buy.
If I wanted an automatic I'd buy a Buick.
So OTD prices will be similar to a Corvette?
A base/stripper Corvette that you'll never actually see on lots.
A base corvette. This is the Z’s top trim… and today it’s almost imposible to get a C8 at $67k+
Good luck finding a Corvette at those prices.
Base corvette with no options.
The price is off putting... But I guess if you're someone like me that doesn't want to do all the aftermarket work, it's the price of entry in 2023-2024. Everything is expensive. But I think I'd still go with a 6-spd Performance with a better set of tires and maybe an ECU tune. I don't plan to track it, and live in Houston so there's not much in the likes of nice backroads nearby.
If I were designing it, the fenders would actually be wider than the performance model, not widened with stick ons. BMW does this with the M2, it actually is wider, not with stick on plastic. Also it needs magnetic ride and manual and the choice of colors on other Z's. They are pretty far away from competing with the Supra yet.
Its actually a BMW so ...
It's literally part of the title but I still felt that sticker shock.
The new m2 is about 63k for base 🥶
And a much better car. Just ugly.
@@schmo7777 true but comparing performance to money it’s a better car
@@schmo7777i rather kick ass than look pretty.
Alex, No Manual? No bueno. 🤨
Epic thumbnail 👌 😎
I have tried to buy a 2024 Nismo today and unfortunately Nissan is selling their cars through chiselers.
After being quoted $68,500.00 for the car by a Nissan dealers salesperson, I agreed to buy the car.
Two hours later I get a communication from the chiseler/dealer saying there is $10k up charge being applied to the agreed upon price.
Shame on Nissan for allowing such dishonorable sales practices. I have owned a Datsun 240z and 260z and was really excited about the new Z, but now "to be honest" I could not be more disappointed by this business practice, allowed by Nissan.
the sped up exhaust note lol
The price is high... but keep in mind they don't keep their value very well. Wait a year or two. It'll be affordable at that point.
Nismos tend to hold their values compared to normal Z’s
The new z has be out two years is not like old z especially twin turbo not be like 350z & 370z those cars when the Came out they were under $40k for top of line now u pay $70k plus for top of line with taxes and twice turbo !
@@Nismo1983crazy it’s been two years already? I’ve still never seen one.
Nice review I'm not sure I agree with everything but you didn't go into the review having already decided to hate this car like the people replying It's sad this car is so close to being a great car but falls short but at least Nissan uses it's own engine .And one last thing for sure it's over priced but cars like this are about to disappear so long term the used price might come back up .
$66,000! Makes the Z Performance seem like a bargain. Hope Nissan will offer a “track package” for the Z Performance with suspension/tire upgrade and bigger brakes for $3500. Get it with the manual, and you have the perfect Z!
That's the only way I'd buy it.
Alex how tall are you ?( for Helmut roof height reference
1970-73 240 Z much better "investment". This will depreciate. An original 240 will appreciate and is way ahead in the cool factor. It's the same story, the original designs of the 60s and 70s cars have never been improved. Yes, safety, emissions, suspensions, etc are all better, but if you gave me one of these new Z cars I'd sell it fast and find a restored 240.
Hey Alex, were you speeding on that winding road? 🤔 Be careful out there.
Wow, a true congratulations on your big weight loss. You look twenty years younger.
I call B.S. on Alex. If no one ever told him the Supra had a German chassis and engine after driving it, he would have never know the difference between that and a Japanese version. 🤥
😂🤣
Nothing is quiet as smooth as an in-line 6, if it had a manual you can quickly tell it’s a bmw shifter as well. Lol
I would get the performance model with the manual transmission and swap out the tires and I'd be a happy camper! :-)
Supra interior seems to be more premium
Cause it’s a BMW interior, and probably it looks better cause of the carbon fiber. The Nissan’s interior has a better layout tho
BMW
Meh - I’ll stick with my paid off 370z. No car payments = good place to be during an economic self destruction mode…. There will be deals to be had in the used market for those facing inevitable job losses and “she took everything maaaaaan” divorce specials 😀
At 65K, I would take the Manual Supra Premium trim for 59K. Supra just have much better engine and a manual.
Hey Alex are you gonna look at the 2024 Ram 1500 soon?
Just give the z Performance a tune Program performance!!
I am sure RACER X would have raced Speed Racer in his Mach 5 using this Z
Neither Racer X nor Speed Racer would want anything to do with this car LOL
I Never Thought I'd See The Day a Z Car Would Cost $66k, That's Just Crazy and Not In a Good Way!!!
$66k is WAY over priced .... Maybe $3k over the performance but thats it.
I will agree its a bit over priced over the performance model.
Way overpriced. Yikes. This should have been the Z for $45k, especially considering this is a 350Z underneath which the tooling has been paid off for decades now. I would normally complain about the lack of a manual transmission option, but truthfully this is so overpriced I would never consider it anyways
He says if we're taller than him we might not fit a helmet. How tall is he? I didn't hear him mention his height
I think that he said he's 5-foot, 5-inch in another video, but I could be wrong
@@TJDST4he’s 6 feet tall
Nissan please learn from Dodge charger…put the most powerful engine in it and watch everyone wants it…..dont bring the Z and let it dies..
This car is awful value. Shame on Nissan for pricing it as they have.
Shame on the Federal Reserve for enabling daddy government to monetize its haphazard debt spending and socializing the cost back onto the working class via inflation all while gaslighting the public and blaming covid ukraine and climate bs.
What we really have going on here is corporate welfare via legalized racketeering via fiscal spending policies.
And
This behavior transcends BOTH sides of the isle.
Price of a GTR back in 2008
Subaru coming for *EVERYONE* given an absolute *BOSS* of Rally Car even as standard. Huge fan of standard transmissions but totally understand why automatics with paddle shifters still remain all the rage. Drive modes I would presume but maybe not? If not huge oversight for the Nismo Z would be my gig on this a very impressive lineage going back an entire Lifetime(s) now. Long $hmc Honda Motor Corporation strong buy
best pic!
Yooo can we stop with the Supra and BMW thing plz, it's getting old. The Supra is a great car for the price, if no one it wasn't from BMW no one would mention it.
BMW ....
20k more than base. Same price as supra. Supra overrated. Honestly a corvette at msrp is best.
M2 is much more capable my butt.
Meh 😒
Just buy a Camaro and it will leave this for Dead ☠️.
not worth the 80k
yep overpriced, and also to heavy
That car looks like an AI generated be-all sports car. Confused design. Yuk
For the same price you can get an M2😮 I really like the Nismo Z..but I can get an M2 without the dealer mark-ups as well🫡