Thanks for this video 🙂 I searched back through your videos to find it. I bought this lock in a 'best of the available choices' moment. I'm in Australia and I had to find a reasonable lock to secure my dirtbike to my ute (pick up truck) while away from home, after loosing the keys to my junk Master locks. I'd been worried they were horrible after being subbed to the channel a while now. I'll follow your tip and convert the lock to key retaining 👍
another awesome and very quick pick my friend. Thanks for all the tips. I have the 334S45 that I picked in video 109. I can't remember what the pins were like I'll have to go back and look. I know it has all tapered keypins. And I'm pretty sure the spools are the same as those.
Hi Harry, good to see you tackle another Aussie Lockwood padlock. I really have mixed feelings now that Lockwood have gone exclusively to spools. They do their job well against the "modern" attack of raking and bumping etc., but with the original pins they were more of a single pin picking challenge - but then who did that? Even locksmiths had trouble with them! I must admit the factory has made the right choice with these spools, and our guys have had to rethink their picking techniques. I believe the plugs (cores) are still produced in Australia, but the cylinders are apparently Chinese, can't verify this, but if that's the case, tolerances may not be as good. Regards, Brian.
It could be that the change in core required moving away from the tapered pins... tapered pins are not nearly as much of a challenge when they are in cylinders that don't have excellent tolerances (core/lock body fitment). As for this particular lock... I really didn't notice the fitment, which means it was probably not terrible and not excellent (the only times I really take note).
Great job on getting that tricky devil open! It's especially interesting how you can detect and correct overset pins - it's very helpful to see how that's done.
That's a wonderful lock - nice picking on these shallow spools. It interesting that the opposite of making spools deep and sharp can also cause a lock to be more difficult to pick - given tight tolerances.
It's not really a matter of difficulty by design IMO... more like difficulty because it is different from what we are used to. If I picked lockwood spools all day long, they would be as easy as, for instance, the spools found in the Abus 83 series.
Thank you :), I will definitely have a look. I got an old Lockwood from one of LockNoobs challenges open several times, but there is another old one sitting on my desk and laughing at me ;D.
LPL's video 99 isn't just good info for Lockwood beveled pins, it also gives great info on detecting and recovering from oversets regardless of lock type.
Nice picking LPLAWYER! I really like the Lockwood pins! I haven't had a chance to pick one yet but hopefully I will soon. Those spools look like fun and especially fun with the Lockwood tapered keypins. Keep on picking!
+TheAvidPicker 1 these are definitely fun locks to pick. They can be really challenging until you get the hang of the oddly shaped spools and tapered key pins.
L.P.L.always GREAT REVIEW .thank you.i have a complete Library of of you videos .so that means i have is many videos as you do locks lol lol.THANKS for sharing the video. 😎😎😎😎😎
I really wish they changed the warding on the Lockwoods; however, the warding is so ubiquitous that many companies who sell locks in Australia actually move away from their own (e.g., Lane and Yale) to the C4 keyway. That said, I wish they made a shrouded 334M45 - that would be a formidable Lockwood padlock. The core? It needs to be, at the bare minimum, the Gen6T, MT5+, BiLock (Exclusive), or the Galaxy; unfortunately, I am yet to see a Lockwood with an Abloy core despite them being under the same parent company. 😅
You make it look easy but they are good locks. Australia's biggest hardware store chain has two big displays: one for Master and the other for Lockwood. I must admit that whenever I am there and see people reaching for the Masterlocks, I do my civic duty and steer them towards the Lockwoods.
Great locks and the shallow spools are not easy unless you know how to pick em. Hardware stores usually either sell Lockwood & Master or Abus & Master. I have both but prefer Lockwood generally. Both generally use the Lockwood C4 keyway in LW4 (5pin) & LW5 (6pin)...go figure! smaller locks dont use the C4 keyway. Small Abus locks use their own keyway. I will do a matrix of all Lockoods and options etc at some point. You do make it look easy though.👍
Thanks... I'm a little amazed that Master or Abus can get a foothold in the Aussie market. Lockwood makes some nice, domestically-produced products... why look elsewhere (unless you need high security, in which case, BiLock!).
Yes, true but I'm guessing that Abus is Lockwood's direct competitor and provides price regulation as well as a presence where perhaps Lockwood won't sign a deal to supply. Regarding Master, whether liked or despised, Master is the peoples communist lock of the world! Lol Also yes, Bi-Lock has found a good foothold in the High Security sector and deservedly flourishes! Note: possible slight bias towards Lockwood and Bi-Lock! ;)
Cracked it like a lowly Masterlock. And I will use “thin lipped shallow spool” as a drunken insult during my next rant. “You Thin-lipped,easily bypassable, shallow spool of a man! How dare you question my integrity?!” Ah yes, I can see the bewildering looks from the onlookers now...................🤨😳😐😲🙃🤨😠👀🤮🤢🤤
I mentioned on another video that I thought the C stood first for closed shackle someone said that it was for corrosion resistance, but I figured the B covered that.
I've always wondered why they leave a pin out. I understand using the same core for several models. But why not just fill all of the holes? Does it really save that much money? Plus when you consider the companies's reputation, I think many security minded customers would be fine with spending a couple of extra bucks to get ALL of the security they can out of a lock.
Noticed your tension tool has some discolouration which appears to have been heated prior to bending If so, just wondering is using a jet lighter enough or is something hotter required?
Since the bible has that top clip on it, do you think the lock would be substitutable to an attack with a Cap Popper type tool like bosnianbill showed a couple of months ago to attack the Schlage F Series and Kwikset locks?
No I don't think so. That tool was for deadbolt installations, where there is empty room above the core. Take a close look at 3:18. Imagine pushing the cap up in there. There is just no room for it to go, it's solid metal above it.
+Dirk Stabins There's not enough room... also, these top covers are much heavier duty. They might be hard to pop. In any case, it's hard to say for sure until you try.
Jasmine Lognnes I assume the locks or at least the shackles are made from different steels. The M stands for Marine, meaning it's recommended for locking up boats and hence offers more corrosion resistance to combat the salt water. Another difference is the S comes with all 6 chambers pinned and is cheaper than the M
Not true concerning the pin count. The S also comes standard with 5 pins. There is a difference in the shackles though. The M has a stainless steel shackle and the S has a molybdenum shackle.
So at around $80 in Australia is this lock junk? I mean this guy can open it in less than a minute, obviously he is highly skilled but is this good to keep out people or can someone recommend a better lock for up to $100.thanks
If you watch a good selection of his videos, this is more struggle than the average padlock, so not a bad purchase I feel, if you can get it for $56 at Bunnings per the other comment.
LockPickingLawyer i made the comment as i was starting the video. its a nice lock though. i like lockwoods. wish they sold them here, they are. much nicer than american or master.
I'm not sure a 6th pin would have made any difference. The first 5 didn't seem to offer much challenge to you, hard to imagine number 6 would have kept you out of it.
It would not have made a difference for me in the final result, but it can't hurt and certainly would have taken a little longer. Delay is the name of the game.
@@lockpickinglawyer I wonder why companies use a six pin core but only pin up five chambers. Surely the proper key and driver pins and springs are only a few extra cents and it shouldn't really cost any more on either the manufacturing or the consumer side of things. I guess a couple of cents on every lock adds up but surely they could raise the price by a nickel and no one would care if they don't want to use their money to make a superior product
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Oh you make it look so easy LOL
Beautiful lock.
+The Madhatter Thanks.
Thanks for this video 🙂
I searched back through your videos to find it.
I bought this lock in a 'best of the available choices' moment.
I'm in Australia and I had to find a reasonable lock to secure my dirtbike to my ute (pick up truck) while away from home, after loosing the keys to my junk Master locks.
I'd been worried they were horrible after being subbed to the channel a while now.
I'll follow your tip and convert the lock to key retaining 👍
another awesome and very quick pick my friend. Thanks for all the tips. I have the 334S45 that I picked in video 109. I can't remember what the pins were like I'll have to go back and look. I know it has all tapered keypins. And I'm pretty sure the spools are the same as those.
Thanks... I'd guess the same. You have to go back a few years to find them with tapered pins.
Hi Harry, good to see you tackle another Aussie Lockwood padlock. I really have mixed feelings now that Lockwood have gone exclusively to spools. They do their job well against the "modern" attack of raking and bumping etc., but with the original pins they were more of a single pin picking challenge - but then who did that? Even locksmiths had trouble with them! I must admit the factory has made the right choice with these spools, and our guys have had to rethink their picking techniques. I believe the plugs (cores) are still produced in Australia, but the cylinders are apparently Chinese, can't verify this, but if that's the case, tolerances may not be as good. Regards, Brian.
It could be that the change in core required moving away from the tapered pins... tapered pins are not nearly as much of a challenge when they are in cylinders that don't have excellent tolerances (core/lock body fitment). As for this particular lock... I really didn't notice the fitment, which means it was probably not terrible and not excellent (the only times I really take note).
Great job on getting that tricky devil open! It's especially interesting how you can detect and correct overset pins - it's very helpful to see how that's done.
Thanks. See my video #99 if you are interested in an easy way to detect oversets.
That's a wonderful lock - nice picking on these shallow spools. It interesting that the opposite of making spools deep and sharp can also cause a lock to be more difficult to pick - given tight tolerances.
It's not really a matter of difficulty by design IMO... more like difficulty because it is different from what we are used to. If I picked lockwood spools all day long, they would be as easy as, for instance, the spools found in the Abus 83 series.
Awesome got one on the way, that looks fun as.
What a lovely looking lock and well picked.
Thanks.
Thanks for the tip on how to convert it to key-retaining! That's really useful to know. Just made the conversion on mine.
Again a beautiful lockwood :). These spools are nasty, but only half as nasty as the old beveled Lockwood pins ;D. Good tip how to set the spools :).
+redcatimaging I did a video on the old Lockwood pins... iirc, it's number 99. Check it out if you are having trouble with them.
Thank you :), I will definitely have a look. I got an old Lockwood from one of LockNoobs challenges open several times, but there is another old one sitting on my desk and laughing at me ;D.
LPL's video 99 isn't just good info for Lockwood beveled pins, it also gives great info on detecting and recovering from oversets regardless of lock type.
Thanks floorpizza :), I will really have a look :).
Nice picking LPLAWYER! I really like the Lockwood pins! I haven't had a chance to pick one yet but hopefully I will soon. Those spools look like fun and especially fun with the Lockwood tapered keypins. Keep on picking!
+TheAvidPicker 1 these are definitely fun locks to pick. They can be really challenging until you get the hang of the oddly shaped spools and tapered key pins.
L.P.L.always GREAT REVIEW .thank you.i have a complete Library of of you videos .so that means i have is many videos as you do locks lol lol.THANKS for sharing the video. 😎😎😎😎😎
LOL... Thanks.
I really wish they changed the warding on the Lockwoods; however, the warding is so ubiquitous that many companies who sell locks in Australia actually move away from their own (e.g., Lane and Yale) to the C4 keyway. That said, I wish they made a shrouded 334M45 - that would be a formidable Lockwood padlock. The core? It needs to be, at the bare minimum, the Gen6T, MT5+, BiLock (Exclusive), or the Galaxy; unfortunately, I am yet to see a Lockwood with an Abloy core despite them being under the same parent company. 😅
Lovely shiny lock :-) reminds me a little of a similar Yale Closed Shackle lock. Great picking as always :-)
+Lock Noob Thanks... similar to the 221. I actually have several very similar locks. It's pretty common.
Two thumbs up for taper top key pins!
+The Lock Picking Lebowski Yup, they can be tricky.
Ohhhh that looks like a fun lock.
You make it look easy but they are good locks. Australia's biggest hardware store chain has two big displays: one for Master and the other for Lockwood. I must admit that whenever I am there and see people reaching for the Masterlocks, I do my civic duty and steer them towards the Lockwoods.
They are very nice -- I didn't mean to suggest otherwise.
I didn't say you did. You can't help that you are a lock picking master.
He makes anything look easy. That does not mean that the lock is bad.
you made it look to easy, nicely picked as usual ;)
:-) Thanks.
Recently picked one of these up because it was this or masterlock, mine though seems to only have 4 pins, so I might need a better core at some point
That is a sweeeet lock. Love it 🔒
+Jp Mcpinning Thanks.
Great locks and the shallow spools are not easy unless you know how to pick em. Hardware stores usually either sell Lockwood & Master or Abus & Master. I have both but prefer Lockwood generally. Both generally use the Lockwood C4 keyway in LW4 (5pin) & LW5 (6pin)...go figure! smaller locks dont use the C4 keyway. Small Abus locks use their own keyway. I will do a matrix of all Lockoods and options etc at some point. You do make it look easy though.👍
Thanks... I'm a little amazed that Master or Abus can get a foothold in the Aussie market. Lockwood makes some nice, domestically-produced products... why look elsewhere (unless you need high security, in which case, BiLock!).
Yes, true but I'm guessing that Abus is Lockwood's direct competitor and provides price regulation as well as a presence where perhaps Lockwood won't sign a deal to supply.
Regarding Master, whether liked or despised, Master is the peoples communist lock of the world! Lol
Also yes, Bi-Lock has found a good foothold in the High Security sector and deservedly flourishes! Note: possible slight bias towards Lockwood and Bi-Lock! ;)
In addition to BiLock, the Australian Lock Company also produces a lock called Galaxy. Now you have another lock to add to your target list. :)
Very nice, I have one of those on my bench!
Thanks.
Love this Shinny Lockwood series ... but to mutch easy to open
+Den Brass They could definitely be made better... but not that bad as is.
Can you show us how the key retaining pin actually retains the key (and not a "move it from here to here and BOOM retained) please.
I have a Lockwood model 334S45 and it's not a particularly easy pick I'm yet to pick it open.
Cracked it like a lowly Masterlock. And I will use “thin lipped shallow spool” as a drunken insult during my next rant. “You Thin-lipped,easily bypassable, shallow spool of a man! How dare you question my integrity?!” Ah yes, I can see the bewildering looks from the onlookers now...................🤨😳😐😲🙃🤨😠👀🤮🤢🤤
Great insult. Sounds downright Shakespearean!
I mentioned on another video that I thought the C stood first for closed shackle someone said that it was for corrosion resistance, but I figured the B covered that.
+Randy Perkins Interesting, but I think they are wrong. Either M or B is more corrosion resistant.
I have an American padlock that has serrated key pins and a hybrid driver pin that looks like a barreled spool but with ridges on the ends
I've always wondered why they leave a pin out. I understand using the same core for several models. But why not just fill all of the holes? Does it really save that much money? Plus when you consider the companies's reputation, I think many security minded customers would be fine with spending a couple of extra bucks to get ALL of the security they can out of a lock.
I think that they leave the pin of so they can use the same core on 5 pin locks and their more expensive 6 pin variants.
Noticed your tension tool has some discolouration which appears to have been heated prior to bending
If so, just wondering is using a jet lighter enough or is something hotter required?
If the steel isn't hardened, you could easily just bend it without heating it up at all. You could either use a sheet metal brake or just a hammer.
I love these videos! :D
Thanks.
Great job picking as always brother and thanks for sharing it with us
Nice pick!
Thanks.
Hi, I really enjoy your videos but haven't seen them all, is there a lock that has defeated you? Cheers
Many, many locks have defeated me. More than I could even begin to mention.
Did you not mention the key for a reason and just cos you've got a line out the door of impatient locks?
No real reason... forgot, I guess.
Is it worth buying these 5 pin in 6 pin cylinder locks cheap and then adding an extra set of pins?
Since the bible has that top clip on it, do you think the lock would be substitutable to an attack with a Cap Popper type tool like bosnianbill showed a couple of months ago to attack the Schlage F Series and Kwikset locks?
No I don't think so. That tool was for deadbolt installations, where there is empty room above the core. Take a close look at 3:18. Imagine pushing the cap up in there. There is just no room for it to go, it's solid metal above it.
I was wondering if there would be clearance issues, it does look pretty tight in there, thanks.
+Dirk Stabins There's not enough room... also, these top covers are much heavier duty. They might be hard to pop. In any case, it's hard to say for sure until you try.
So both S and M are steel? How do they differ from a physical point of view?
Jasmine Lognnes I assume the locks or at least the shackles are made from different steels. The M stands for Marine, meaning it's recommended for locking up boats and hence offers more corrosion resistance to combat the salt water.
Another difference is the S comes with all 6 chambers pinned and is cheaper than the M
S and C versions are chromed hardened steel. M version is stainless steel. B version is brass. :-)
Not true concerning the pin count. The S also comes standard with 5 pins. There is a difference in the shackles though. The M has a stainless steel shackle and the S has a molybdenum shackle.
Noctis I know you've picked and gutted far more of these than I have but mine has 6. Maybe I got lucky 😊
So, getting special treatment, eh? ;) You lucky basket. :D
So at around $80 in Australia is this lock junk? I mean this guy can open it in less than a minute, obviously he is highly skilled but is this good to keep out people or can someone recommend a better lock for up to $100.thanks
These lock are only $56 at bunnings... I bought one a few days ago to practice on
If you watch a good selection of his videos, this is more struggle than the average padlock, so not a bad purchase I feel, if you can get it for $56 at Bunnings per the other comment.
8+ minute pick video! crap thats a lock i need to get. it probably eats picks as snack.
+metamorphicorder Well, the Picking sure isn't 8 min.
LockPickingLawyer i made the comment as i was starting the video. its a nice lock though. i like lockwoods. wish they sold them here, they are. much nicer than american or master.
I'm not sure a 6th pin would have made any difference. The first 5 didn't seem to offer much challenge to you, hard to imagine number 6 would have kept you out of it.
It would not have made a difference for me in the final result, but it can't hurt and certainly would have taken a little longer. Delay is the name of the game.
@@lockpickinglawyer I wonder why companies use a six pin core but only pin up five chambers. Surely the proper key and driver pins and springs are only a few extra cents and it shouldn't really cost any more on either the manufacturing or the consumer side of things.
I guess a couple of cents on every lock adds up but surely they could raise the price by a nickel and no one would care if they don't want to use their money to make a superior product
@@ZakkandtheJ different models and parts reuse..
Refuse the part you can between models but add upgrades to the better model..
hi can you tell me where i can send you some lock you can review. Do you have e mail where can i send you some private message
See the "about" tab on my channel.
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