@@tigrispanthera5496 Fiona lost everything and went on a spiral for a couple episodes (mind you… Lip and Ian and others had season or multiple season arcs where they went off the wall) which resulting in Lip blaming for her getting his sponsee drunk (someone she didn’t know or had even heard of previously) and the fact lip didn’t get to adopt this random girl (because he neglected to tell anyone DCFS was coming by and Fiona woke up and answered the door) so lip tried to kick her out, all the others talked shit on her, and she was painted as an out of control monster because she lost her property, investment, relationship, and everything she had spent a few seasons building up and in response to that she started drinking a lot and acting kinda like Frank (which Lip also did yet Fiona supported him). In the end, she wound up with 100,000 dollars from one of her investments and she still split half of it with her siblings before she left town.
This whole scene was the first time ever, you see Frank was ashamed. But he doesn’t say it. What can you say when your oldest is sitting there telling it like it is and you know it’s the truth?
Frank knows Fiona is right, but the problem is he doesn’t have the will to be the kind of father they need. Plus he knows that at this point, it’s too late for him to ever have a good relationship with any of his kids so he just continues being the despicable person he is.
Jimmy literally went into a relationship with her KNOWING what her life was like and still had the nerve to be surprised when she was gonna do whatever it took to care for her siblings 😂 Meanwhile, he was Steve, then, Jimmy, then, Jack and she was supposed to just be like ‘ okay. ‘ 😂
Yeah, a lot of the people who still wanted her with him tended to forget how selfish a piece he was. Tbf, yes, he went in being told that she was devoted to her siblings and tried to convince her it wasn't healthy for her to be taking care of all of them on her own without looking after herself. But to then hear her legally making herself more than just a sister but their official guardian with all the responsibility that comes with it, that's putting any relationship and future plans on a distant backburner. He was fully right to be upset about that, but not to blame her for it because it wasn't shocking that she made the choice. He chose to then try and still be with her, but couldn't even handle living a normal life or a normal job, and back to trying to make easy money, got in huge trouble, and then made it worse to the point that he got some guy killed and then he had to be taken away. Even by the end he was still living a dishonest life, was willing to try to wreck Fiona's 'stability' (even though we know it was a ticking time bomb) just to get her back and to go with him leaving everything and everyone behind Again.
@@maxfr142 she kind of did though. While she had every right to focus primarily on the Several children she not only raised but became legal care holders for, Jimmy was right in that his problems (however small) should matter to her as well, and she never really gave much attention to it because it really wasn't a big deal, but because he was as sheltered and odd as he was, having a gay dad was big for him. However, nothing she did could rival the fuck up that Jimmy himself caused multiple times, and the lies he told from situations or circumstances he himself caused, and then still expecting her to leave her life behind while he was still lying in his last appearance. Be hadn't changed, that was what we saw, and that was why he never would've worked for her.
To be fair, he wasn’t mad that she did it, he was mad that she didn’t ask him how he felt about it, he even responded thag if she asked he woulda said hell yeah. It wasn’t the fact that she made this huge life decision, it was the fact that she did it without so much as asking him, making him feel like they weren’t building a future together as a team and that she still considered herself alone despite everything he’d done up until that point to prove otherwise
@@nataliehill1472 I'd argue that's not entirely true considering how much he tried to get her to distance herself from her family, asking her to come with him in various ways, not to mention even asking her to leave it all behind again during their last encounter. Sure, he definitely wasn't wrong in wanting to have discussed the ramifications with her (specifically on their relationship and future together) prior to the decision even if the choice was ultimately hers to make in order to keep her family from being broken up because of Frank's selfish scheming
The look of shame on franks face when he heard Fiona basically say that Ian could’ve died because of his negligence, He literally could’ve killed his son. Carl chubby face was sad to hear what Fiona went through. 💔💔💔💔🥺🥺🥺🥺
I feel like deep down Frank really does love his kids and regrets not being a better father to them but he also realizes there's really no fixing anything at this point and him trying would only do more harm than good. So he may as well be who he is and be happy with it.
@@stevenceja4706 I don’t agree at all. He doesn’t love his kids, nor does he care about them. Even after a story like that, he’s so quick to hand over the responsibility to Fiona and walks out the room without saying another word. He doesn’t love them and doesn’t want to fix anything. He wants to carry on doing as he damn pleases. He’s not their father, he’s their sperm donor. He’s embarrassed by his own behaviour when it’s brought up but doesn’t care to change it because he enjoys it too much. He wouldn’t change anything other than having kids in the first place. No sympathy for people like this. They deserve nothing.
@@chadamwilson8268 While I agree with most of what you said, I think it’s more complex than that. Deep down, Frank does care about his kids in his own twisted way where he wants their respect despite how neglectful he’s been to them. But you’re also right, he doesn’t really care about them enough to be the kind of father they need him to be cause he would rather spend his time fulfilling his own happiness than putting his kids first and making sacrifices for them. I think the other commenter makes a good point at how Frank continues his despicable behaviour, cause it’s too late for him to try and develop a relationship with his kids where he’s more of a father than just an awful human that’s their “sperm donor” What I love so much about William H. Macy’s subtle acting is how layered he makes Frank. For the most part we hate Frank cause of how fast he’s willing to destroy everything he touches, but he also adds a sense of vulnerability to Frank where in another life maybe he could’ve been a good father if circumstances were different.
I feel so bad for Fiona, her family treated her like sh^t despite all the things she did and sacrificed for them. Did she make mistakes? Yes. BUT she did her best and I feel like they never fully appreciated her.
Oh for sure. He's the worst. But he plays the role Soo well and it's very well written. It's hard for me not to like the character. William H. Macy made it believable.
his character is entertaining, u can hate n enjoy the character at the same time yet sometime i really wish he die when he f**k over his kids especially Fiona
The worst/funniest part about this, is that it’s something that actually happens in the real world, taking some of the exaggerations the show has, this is such a realistic show that just brings modern problems to the public to make conscience.
He was the one who called cps on Fiona when he couldn’t get his way. He saw the way Fiona struggled at 6 years old raising kids who weren’t even her’s while he was out getting drunk and high off whatever he could find. She knew if she didn’t take care of them she probably wouldn’t see them again if cps got involved yet he couldn’t find it in his heart to make it easier on her and when she finally got to leave and have a chance at life he couldn’t even admit to himself that she was the one who did it ALL. Goes to show how rough life is and how selfish and self-centered a person can be.
I love this scene so much; Fiona gave up so much for her siblings and that’s why I couldn’t bare watch Debbie’s teen mon storyline and the coke problem and Liam almost dying with Lip and Ian just hating Fiona
This scene made me appreciate my parents more. Considering the fact my parents never drank, use drugs, beat each other up, or cheated on each other, and their were always there for their kids no matter what. Thanks Mom & Dad. Thank you so much for always being there for my siblings and I. I’ll always love you. Never knew how good I had it til now.
The worst thing about Frank wasn’t even his utter negligence. It’s the fact that he actually actively drags those children down every chance he gets. Abusing them, stealing from them, the DFS thing, literally countless of other things that would take me years to list out. And some people seem to have more grace for him than Fiona or Debbie in their later years. Makes the show unwatchable at times.
Debbie and Lip will break that cycle through the love they have for their children. Debbie got a real job and Lip quit drinking, so they're on a good path.
The child Frank pushed her to keep, even Ian took Debbies side just because he was mad at Fiona. Not thinking about how that would mess up their lives. @@colingibson1998
Never will understand the hatred towards Fiona. Doing this took a lot of balls and she still did it. It pretty much meant that she had to sign her life away for these kids pretty much forever. She was still human and still had a life to live for herself as well. As they got older, she didn't really need to take care of them anymore as they were all pretty much doing things on their own. She didn't leave them while they were still young, she left when they were all old enough to actually fend for themselves. Liam wasn't a baby anymore. They still treated her like garbage in the end and it was really sad
I feel like some people envy the strenght and intelligence someone like Fiona has, she is admirable. Even if this just a character I feel like seeing this makes some people feel bad about themselves, bc they know they could never
When I first watched this scene I was so happy Fiona made this selfless sacrifice for her younger siblings to protect them from Frank….. Jump forward to the later seasons; Fiona made a *HUGE* mistake here. Her siblings are truly ungrateful, selfish, reckless and destructive delinquents who show no gratitude whatsoever, make her out to be selfish when she tries to have her own life and do things that doesn’t revolve around them and they completely turn a blind eye when Fiona is in most need of help! I am not saying she’s a saint either but after all she’s done without asking for anything in return some respect is deserved.
She tried so hard to give them their best chances and yet they still throw it away. They act like they’ve only been raised by Frank. Carl wanting to go to Juvie, Debbie getting pregnant on purpose, Lip throwing everything away…
i dont understand why Debbie loves his father just as much as Fiona it seems, I remember i didnt like my father and i loved my mom, and he wasent this bad, someone pissed in her bedroom, she saw everything he did, how is that even possible
@@apple5101 yeah its the same with my sister she's a teetotaller raises her kids well our mum was an addict and alcoholic she was exactly like Monica but less nice, less in and out leaving her kids and i suspect had BPD and bipolar lol my dad was also an alcoholic for a time he had the DTs and was hallucinating in hospital etc not everyone's family escapes the cycle unfortunately you're lucky your parents didn't turn out like their parents it can be a thing sometimes handed down in families I myself was an alcoholic for a couple of months when I was 13/14 and I've had an on/off thing of binge drinking shows like Shameless are basically how my childhood was but in Shameless its less horrific in some ways 😂
Why did the judge let Frank keep 'parental rights'? Shouldn't it have raised flags/ concerns when he said she'd have all the responsibilities? he was corrected but probably didn't take that on board
It worked out later on when Fiona went to jail for leaving her coke out, and Liam getting into the coke and almost dying. Fiona was in jail, so they used Frank to get Liam out of the hospital.
It is incredibly hard to get parental rights terminated. Especially on the basis of neglect (like in this scene). It basically has to come down to severe physical/sexual abuse
Agreeing to be the guardian of family children is so powerful. She’s given everything to them and the what she looks when she”# telling the story is so heartbreaking and powerful. She should have won something for the role of Fiona.
That's what i never understood. their was a huge scene in this where she says yes she will be here till Liam turns 18 whenever one is an adult. Then the second she started making some money she said nah fuck that made everyone agree that she will not mainly take care of them as well as leaves
She sacrificed her whole life to single handed raise her siblings and they all grew up and treated her like crap. I’m glad she left them all behind and moved on
Liam, Carl and Ian were the ones who didn’t treat her horribly. Yes Carl and Ian both had their moments like with Ian’s bipolar episodes and he was learning to live with it. Carl with just being a moody teenager and not wanting Fiona to mess with his stuff. Those three at least for the most part didn’t treat her horribly
I love how she values family.. not too many people like that especially these days. Family is all you got in this world. Wish some of my family would understand that. Only one member who doesn't and that's why I have nothing to do with em. How didn't Emmy win an award for this... She's an amazing actress she deserves it she made this show it has sucked ever since she left and killing frank off with covid was the worst this show stopped being good at season 7 I'd say
Frank straight up handed over the kids to Fiona because he didn't want any responsibility... I hate that he got off without even having to pay them money or even face charges for child neglect. He should've been in jail for leaving them on the sidewalk at night to get drugs
😢😧😧😢😧😢😢😢😢😢😨😧😢😧😢😧😢😧😢😧😢😧 "*He takes what he pleases and offers nothing in return, no money, no support. Am not asking for your pity nor admiration*" OMG!, in this scene, Fiona made me shed deep tears, really touching story from fiona. Frank did a lot of shameless acts and really gave the show title "shameless" more clearity. O frank Gallagher 😂
the moment he walked into her house he should’ve known what he was getting himself into. he decided to stay so the only person he can really blame is himself
Think about like this before if the kids got into trouble she wouldn't be fully responsible for what they did. Now she is legally bond to stay with them until everyone and I mean everyone until they are 18.
Sometimes I hate her brothers and sisters because the mistakes she had made and that they blamed her to have done were obviously not her faults.She raised herself while raising her siblings.The people that they should hate is their parents because if they had treat them properly then they wouldn’t have done that. (Sorry for the mistakes ,i’m french so i tried my best)
I think that jimmy steve was a jerk and I didn’t like him and almost all of fionas siblings took her for granted and I was kinda mad about that I’m glad she finally got away after so much sacrifice for them
I've never seen this show, I don't really know why i watched this clip, but the way frank just walks out of the court room immediately is quite powerful
Frank in this scene made me so fucking angry. I hate how he just went on and on about how he loves his kids most of all and how pretended like he was a good father.
Fiona wasn’t perfect by far and she had her ways, but she most definitely loved her brothers and sister and she fought for them hard. Signed away her life and they treated her terribly.
He was terrible tbh he went In knowing Fiona’s situation and then surprised when she would do anything for the kids and he was Jimmy,Steve then jack like girl-
It's a sad story for sure. However, DFS would have been involved if three children, 6 & under showed up at a clinic in the middle of the night. They would've been placed in a group home (I would assume).
I worked in child welfare. It’s so difficult to terminate the parents rights, judges don’t tend to favor that route so kids could be in foster care for years and years. In my mind, you should be given 12 months to get it together, that’s a year your untreated addiction and mental health can affect your child. After that, termination and finding them a good home
If this is true, how the hell did they not get put in foster care? They say that all the times they got put in foster care, Fiona got them out. But she was 6 in this story. Foster care would of put the three of them (Fiona, Lip and Ian) and who would of got them out?
And at the end most of all treat her like crap, most of them didn't supported her and help her when she was down. The only one who treated her with respected all the time was Carl and Liam. But Lip, Ian and especially Debbie was so mean to her.
@@gabriela806 yeah i guess that's screwed up to do that to them though I wouldn't do that to my niece and nephew and they're the same age Fiona was when she lived in the car
* SPOILER ALERT * This stuff comes in the later seasons where we find out that Monica slept with one of Frank’s brothers who actually ends up being Ian’s biological dad who’s wife makes him kick Ian and Lip out of the house when they try to find out the family history. Also the other brother looks almost identical to Frank plus/minus some facial hair, so it could be possible they don’t get along because Frank probably pulled a scam in his brothers’s name, got away with it and his brother ended up paying for it. Also, throughout the show, in the extended family scenes, there is mention of how many times Frank and Monica have tried to steal and scam from the family to buy drugs and alcohol and also the number of family occasions and gatherings that have been ruined by either one or both being inebriated. So I think it’s safe to assume, the uncle kicked them out either because he thought they were pulling a scam, or because he realised Frank and Monica being such unreliable parents would add the burden of taking in so many kids for life and unwelcome drop ins from Frank and Monica for the rest of their lives
MF just said "I can keep my parental rights and she'll took all the responsibility" and "work for me" he still being a deadbeat father he shouldn't be getting parental rights because he's not a F🤬🤬🤬ing parent this just made me mad😡🤬🤬🤬
Too bad Frank lived so long people like that always live way too long (I know it’s a show but there are many Franks in the world and they are very real)
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they seem all to be smart, but also like characters in a horror movie. just pure bad decisions from beginning til the end. especially Fiona and Lip. there are other dramas in life but the writers consistently want them to be fine for a minute and then devastatingly lose it all in the next, nothing new. It's really exhausting. I kinda understand why Emmy left the show.
Ok they took it too far they should say she was left whit 1 kid at 6 not 2 . How can she carry 2 kids at the age of 6 and even walk to the clinic whit 2 kids 1 in each arm even as an adult it's not easy talk less of a 6 years old child. Sounds ridiculous
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the funny thing is fiona was warned that she would be responsible until they all turn 18 and then bitched at them because she couldnt have a life of her own lmao and then just left everyone just like monica did 😂 im glad she left though. she was one of those actresses that i just couldnt stand
That's what I was thinking the judge literally said you're gonna have them till the youngest is 18, and then a few seasons later she doesnt want them anymore?
@@taylormorgan2503 because she’s been doing it since she was 9…. And they were already grown adults who didn’t need her help. Other than Liam. Who was like 10 when she left
She was tired. She took on raising them since she was 9 years old. By the time she left, they we’re basically all grown and acting wild anyway. Her staying wouldn’t have mad much of a difference. She did all she could. Debbie was out here being an unfit teenage mom, Lip threw his whole college education away and was walking around with nothing going on, Carl was causing chaos and Ian was also causing chaos along with Mickey. She had to take care of herself.
I don’t understand how this woman didn’t win ANYTHING for this damn role
Criminally underrated actress in this role
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She basically signed away her life for them, and that is why I can't stand how they treated her character by the end of this show
what happened in the end? sorry i don’t watch the show
@@tigrispanthera5496 Fiona lost everything and went on a spiral for a couple episodes (mind you… Lip and Ian and others had season or multiple season arcs where they went off the wall) which resulting in Lip blaming for her getting his sponsee drunk (someone she didn’t know or had even heard of previously) and the fact lip didn’t get to adopt this random girl (because he neglected to tell anyone DCFS was coming by and Fiona woke up and answered the door) so lip tried to kick her out, all the others talked shit on her, and she was painted as an out of control monster because she lost her property, investment, relationship, and everything she had spent a few seasons building up and in response to that she started drinking a lot and acting kinda like Frank (which Lip also did yet Fiona supported him). In the end, she wound up with 100,000 dollars from one of her investments and she still split half of it with her siblings before she left town.
@@mkwhite5054 Ian was still nice to her consistently
Right???
@@eaahaha2030 his attitude was because of his BP
“He takes what he pleases and offers nothing in return” this is one of the most powerful lines Fiona has ever spoken
Especially Debbie’s treatment towards her like did she forget who was THERE for her for the last 18 years? Wtf 🤦♀️
This whole scene was the first time ever, you see Frank was ashamed. But he doesn’t say it. What can you say when your oldest is sitting there telling it like it is and you know it’s the truth?
Frank knows Fiona is right, but the problem is he doesn’t have the will to be the kind of father they need. Plus he knows that at this point, it’s too late for him to ever have a good relationship with any of his kids so he just continues being the despicable person he is.
Yet right after he is hapoy to have no responsibility of yet still claim on his kids. @@lindsaywentworth9144
Jimmy literally went into a relationship with her KNOWING what her life was like and still had the nerve to be surprised when she was gonna do whatever it took to care for her siblings 😂 Meanwhile, he was Steve, then, Jimmy, then, Jack and she was supposed to just be like ‘ okay. ‘ 😂
Yeah, a lot of the people who still wanted her with him tended to forget how selfish a piece he was.
Tbf, yes, he went in being told that she was devoted to her siblings and tried to convince her it wasn't healthy for her to be taking care of all of them on her own without looking after herself.
But to then hear her legally making herself more than just a sister but their official guardian with all the responsibility that comes with it, that's putting any relationship and future plans on a distant backburner.
He was fully right to be upset about that, but not to blame her for it because it wasn't shocking that she made the choice. He chose to then try and still be with her, but couldn't even handle living a normal life or a normal job, and back to trying to make easy money, got in huge trouble, and then made it worse to the point that he got some guy killed and then he had to be taken away.
Even by the end he was still living a dishonest life, was willing to try to wreck Fiona's 'stability' (even though we know it was a ticking time bomb) just to get her back and to go with him leaving everything and everyone behind Again.
@@juliantapia1407 People wanted him with her only realised that she wouldn’t fuck up that relationship, like she did to so many others.
@@maxfr142 she kind of did though.
While she had every right to focus primarily on the Several children she not only raised but became legal care holders for, Jimmy was right in that his problems (however small) should matter to her as well, and she never really gave much attention to it because it really wasn't a big deal, but because he was as sheltered and odd as he was, having a gay dad was big for him.
However, nothing she did could rival the fuck up that Jimmy himself caused multiple times, and the lies he told from situations or circumstances he himself caused, and then still expecting her to leave her life behind while he was still lying in his last appearance.
Be hadn't changed, that was what we saw, and that was why he never would've worked for her.
To be fair, he wasn’t mad that she did it, he was mad that she didn’t ask him how he felt about it, he even responded thag if she asked he woulda said hell yeah. It wasn’t the fact that she made this huge life decision, it was the fact that she did it without so much as asking him, making him feel like they weren’t building a future together as a team and that she still considered herself alone despite everything he’d done up until that point to prove otherwise
@@nataliehill1472 I'd argue that's not entirely true considering how much he tried to get her to distance herself from her family, asking her to come with him in various ways, not to mention even asking her to leave it all behind again during their last encounter.
Sure, he definitely wasn't wrong in wanting to have discussed the ramifications with her (specifically on their relationship and future together) prior to the decision even if the choice was ultimately hers to make in order to keep her family from being broken up because of Frank's selfish scheming
She is actually a well-trained vocalist, and you can really hear it sometimes.
@@Maria-rx9mr lol no, you aren’t 😂 I think everyone knows.
she was the star of phantom of the Opera and she did AMAZING!
Part of makes her unconvincing as growing up in that milieu.
How can you tell?
@@trose3848 and she was only 16 in that movie! Isn’t that amazing!?!?
The look of shame on franks face when he heard Fiona basically say that Ian could’ve died because of his negligence, He literally could’ve killed his son. Carl chubby face was sad to hear what Fiona went through. 💔💔💔💔🥺🥺🥺🥺
actually Ian is not his son. Ian's father is Frank's brother
@@designbyally he didn't know that when he almost killed him n they both still claim each other as father and son. so..
I feel like deep down Frank really does love his kids and regrets not being a better father to them but he also realizes there's really no fixing anything at this point and him trying would only do more harm than good. So he may as well be who he is and be happy with it.
@@stevenceja4706 I don’t agree at all. He doesn’t love his kids, nor does he care about them. Even after a story like that, he’s so quick to hand over the responsibility to Fiona and walks out the room without saying another word. He doesn’t love them and doesn’t want to fix anything. He wants to carry on doing as he damn pleases. He’s not their father, he’s their sperm donor. He’s embarrassed by his own behaviour when it’s brought up but doesn’t care to change it because he enjoys it too much. He wouldn’t change anything other than having kids in the first place. No sympathy for people like this. They deserve nothing.
@@chadamwilson8268 While I agree with most of what you said, I think it’s more complex than that. Deep down, Frank does care about his kids in his own twisted way where he wants their respect despite how neglectful he’s been to them. But you’re also right, he doesn’t really care about them enough to be the kind of father they need him to be cause he would rather spend his time fulfilling his own happiness than putting his kids first and making sacrifices for them.
I think the other commenter makes a good point at how Frank continues his despicable behaviour, cause it’s too late for him to try and develop a relationship with his kids where he’s more of a father than just an awful human that’s their “sperm donor”
What I love so much about William H. Macy’s subtle acting is how layered he makes Frank. For the most part we hate Frank cause of how fast he’s willing to destroy everything he touches, but he also adds a sense of vulnerability to Frank where in another life maybe he could’ve been a good father if circumstances were different.
"It would have been easier scoring crack than a ride to the clinic" really sums up how much people hate Frank
I feel so bad for Fiona, her family treated her like sh^t despite all the things she did and sacrificed for them. Did she make mistakes? Yes. BUT she did her best and I feel like they never fully appreciated her.
After all this, how could Frank Gallagher be your favorite character? He’s a monster.
Oh for sure. He's the worst. But he plays the role Soo well and it's very well written. It's hard for me not to like the character. William H. Macy made it believable.
He’s not a favorite, William H Macy just does such a good job at being a deadbeat dad, and also, Frank is the embodiment of Shameless.
his character is entertaining, u can hate n enjoy the character at the same time yet sometime i really wish he die when he f**k over his kids especially Fiona
The worst/funniest part about this, is that it’s something that actually happens in the real world, taking some of the exaggerations the show has, this is such a realistic show that just brings modern problems to the public to make conscience.
Same reason people "like" eric cartman
“..because they deserve better.” When no one was there to want the BETTER that SHE deserved. Kills me every time.
He was the one who called cps on Fiona when he couldn’t get his way. He saw the way Fiona struggled at 6 years old raising kids who weren’t even her’s while he was out getting drunk and high off whatever he could find. She knew if she didn’t take care of them she probably wouldn’t see them again if cps got involved yet he couldn’t find it in his heart to make it easier on her and when she finally got to leave and have a chance at life he couldn’t even admit to himself that she was the one who did it ALL. Goes to show how rough life is and how selfish and self-centered a person can be.
Love the way all her siblings look at her but Carl looks at his big sister the most
Love the way Carl hugged his big sister right away
I love this scene so much; Fiona gave up so much for her siblings and that’s why I couldn’t bare watch Debbie’s teen mon storyline and the coke problem and Liam almost dying with Lip and Ian just hating Fiona
Emmy played this role for 9 years and she did fucking amazing I felt everything and every emotion in all her scenes should have won a fucking award f
This scene made me appreciate my parents more. Considering the fact my parents never drank, use drugs, beat each other up, or cheated on each other, and their were always there for their kids no matter what. Thanks Mom & Dad. Thank you so much for always being there for my siblings and I. I’ll always love you. Never knew how good I had it til now.
I felt so bad & sorry for her in this scene 😥
I mean she left drugs out fir a baby to get sooooooo....
@@ggbabydollworld977 this is before that....
@@ggbabydollworld977 she INTENTIONALLY tried to kill her baby brother??? 💀
@@brainanchorstudios879 it was unintentionally, but it still was her fault because she’s their guardian
@@brainanchorstudios879 She didnt
The worst thing about Frank wasn’t even his utter negligence. It’s the fact that he actually actively drags those children down every chance he gets. Abusing them, stealing from them, the DFS thing, literally countless of other things that would take me years to list out. And some people seem to have more grace for him than Fiona or Debbie in their later years. Makes the show unwatchable at times.
Well, Debbie is kind of a bad person too.
@@AlejandroLopez-fc1dg Debbie has fucked up but she at least cares about her child
Debbie and Lip will break that cycle through the love they have for their children. Debbie got a real job and Lip quit drinking, so they're on a good path.
The child Frank pushed her to keep, even Ian took Debbies side just because he was mad at Fiona. Not thinking about how that would mess up their lives. @@colingibson1998
Love the way all her brothers jumped up and yelled
Never will understand the hatred towards Fiona. Doing this took a lot of balls and she still did it. It pretty much meant that she had to sign her life away for these kids pretty much forever. She was still human and still had a life to live for herself as well. As they got older, she didn't really need to take care of them anymore as they were all pretty much doing things on their own. She didn't leave them while they were still young, she left when they were all old enough to actually fend for themselves. Liam wasn't a baby anymore. They still treated her like garbage in the end and it was really sad
I feel like some people envy the strenght and intelligence someone like Fiona has, she is admirable. Even if this just a character I feel like seeing this makes some people feel bad about themselves, bc they know they could never
God Emmy's acting is incredible here, I'm about to cry.
When I first watched this scene I was so happy Fiona made this selfless sacrifice for her younger siblings to protect them from Frank…..
Jump forward to the later seasons; Fiona made a *HUGE* mistake here. Her siblings are truly ungrateful, selfish, reckless and destructive delinquents who show no gratitude whatsoever, make her out to be selfish when she tries to have her own life and do things that doesn’t revolve around them and they completely turn a blind eye when Fiona is in most need of help!
I am not saying she’s a saint either but after all she’s done without asking for anything in return some respect is deserved.
I so fucking love this scene.
She tried so hard to give them their best chances and yet they still throw it away. They act like they’ve only been raised by Frank. Carl wanting to go to Juvie, Debbie getting pregnant on purpose, Lip throwing everything away…
Liam was a good egg…
Carl ended up being a very good person
i dont understand why Debbie loves his father just as much as Fiona it seems, I remember i didnt like my father and i loved my mom, and he wasent this bad, someone pissed in her bedroom, she saw everything he did, how is that even possible
It's hard to believe people have a dad like frank smh
Its only hard to believe if you've had a pampered life
@@apple5101 no lol alcoholism, mental illness and drug addictions aren't exactly a rare thing
@@apple5101 yeah its the same with my sister she's a teetotaller raises her kids well our mum was an addict and alcoholic she was exactly like Monica but less nice, less in and out leaving her kids and i suspect had BPD and bipolar lol my dad was also an alcoholic for a time he had the DTs and was hallucinating in hospital etc not everyone's family escapes the cycle unfortunately you're lucky your parents didn't turn out like their parents it can be a thing sometimes handed down in families I myself was an alcoholic for a couple of months when I was 13/14 and I've had an on/off thing of binge drinking shows like Shameless are basically how my childhood was but in Shameless its less horrific in some ways 😂
Why did the judge let Frank keep 'parental rights'?
Shouldn't it have raised flags/ concerns when he said she'd have all the responsibilities? he was corrected but probably didn't take that on board
Cuz he white
@@averymartin321 lol it's a black judge and this is a show
It worked out later on when Fiona went to jail for leaving her coke out, and Liam getting into the coke and almost dying. Fiona was in jail, so they used Frank to get Liam out of the hospital.
It is incredibly hard to get parental rights terminated. Especially on the basis of neglect (like in this scene). It basically has to come down to severe physical/sexual abuse
@@kellyjokanovich3939 “ Especially on the basic on neglect. “ After the story that she told, that feels like everything wrong with the legal system.
i never liked jimmy/steve but his reaction made me scoff because why did he think she would say no
He wanted to spend the rest of his life with her. Just without her siblings
She was a great sibling to them all but most importantly the best figure mom to them all
He wanted to keep them as kids so that be could manipulate them. When he says "but she'd have the responsibility" I am filled with so much rage
Team Fiona !!!!! Such a beautiful caring and loving big sister/mom for her brother and sisters. ❤❤❤❤
Agreeing to be the guardian of family children is so powerful. She’s given everything to them and the what she looks when she”# telling the story is so heartbreaking and powerful. She should have won something for the role of Fiona.
She was a better parent to them then frank and monica ever were.
Why couldn't she take Liam with her? She's his legal guardian.
take him where?
@@brendaarcher2046 Not sure if you're caught up, but it's something that happens in a later season.
That's what i never understood. their was a huge scene in this where she says yes she will be here till Liam turns 18 whenever one is an adult. Then the second she started making some money she said nah fuck that made everyone agree that she will not mainly take care of them as well as leaves
I was okay with Fiona leaving because it seemed like it would be best for her, but leaving Liam behind without a guardian always bothered me.
I think the actress wanted to leave the show and that was that. Otherwise Im sure she would have stayed throughout this show
And even after all that those kids especially lip never treated her respectfully
Other than Liam. He’s the only good one
She sacrificed her whole life to single handed raise her siblings and they all grew up and treated her like crap. I’m glad she left them all behind and moved on
Liam, Carl and Ian were the ones who didn’t treat her horribly. Yes Carl and Ian both had their moments like with Ian’s bipolar episodes and he was learning to live with it. Carl with just being a moody teenager and not wanting Fiona to mess with his stuff. Those three at least for the most part didn’t treat her horribly
I love how she values family.. not too many people like that especially these days. Family is all you got in this world. Wish some of my family would understand that. Only one member who doesn't and that's why I have nothing to do with em. How didn't Emmy win an award for this... She's an amazing actress she deserves it she made this show it has sucked ever since she left and killing frank off with covid was the worst this show stopped being good at season 7 I'd say
I don't know how Emmy Rossum never got any award consideration for this role!
The way lip is listening to her…😭👏🏻
What a powerful scene what a great scene I’ve ever scene in television
Frank straight up handed over the kids to Fiona because he didn't want any responsibility... I hate that he got off without even having to pay them money or even face charges for child neglect. He should've been in jail for leaving them on the sidewalk at night to get drugs
Frank dies finally.. Fiona was a wonderful woman... As for Frank what a pathetic human..
He still had good moments when he was francis
@@khalidbutnotthesingerkhalid he was bad person and father period.
I always cry so much listening to her. My bio mom was soooo much like Frank and Monica. My brother and I were soooo young.
This is the scene that made me watch shameless, I saw it on tik tok and went to Netflix straight away
She is a amazing beautiful actor. Emmy is my favorite actor. Honestly I didn’t know who she was until I watched this show. She is so strong.
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"*He takes what he pleases and offers nothing in return, no money, no support. Am not asking for your pity nor admiration*"
OMG!, in this scene, Fiona made me shed deep tears, really touching story from fiona.
Frank did a lot of shameless acts and really gave the show title "shameless" more clearity.
O frank Gallagher 😂
i still don't get jimmysteves problem, she was already those kids sister, mom, and dad. it was just then on paper
I never got it either. Like did he really think she'd say no? This should have been done a long time ago if we're being honest.
the moment he walked into her house he should’ve known what he was getting himself into. he decided to stay so the only person he can really blame is himself
Think about like this before if the kids got into trouble she wouldn't be fully responsible for what they did. Now she is legally bond to stay with them until everyone and I mean everyone until they are 18.
@@riftwalk2546 she left though
Sometimes I hate her brothers and sisters because the mistakes she had made and that they blamed her to have done were obviously not her faults.She raised herself while raising her siblings.The people that they should hate is their parents because if they had treat them properly then they wouldn’t have done that.
(Sorry for the mistakes ,i’m french so i tried my best)
I think that jimmy steve was a jerk and I didn’t like him and almost all of fionas siblings took her for granted and I was kinda mad about that I’m glad she finally got away after so much sacrifice for them
I cried in this scene
If Terry didn't exist, Frank would sure be number 1 as the worst parent in the show
This was her biggest mistake, but at the end she did it all for love
I've never seen this show, I don't really know why i watched this clip, but the way frank just walks out of the court room immediately is quite powerful
Frank in this scene made me so fucking angry. I hate how he just went on and on about how he loves his kids most of all and how pretended like he was a good father.
Take ur children home best part to hear after her heartbreaking speech 💬
damn is Emmy talented
Frank is a bad Parent. And will be.
This may have been the happy ending of the show. BUT NO of course, it had to keep going on for a heart breaking events and storyline.
Fiona wasn’t perfect by far and she had her ways, but she most definitely loved her brothers and sister and she fought for them hard. Signed away her life and they treated her terribly.
“Works for me!”
Jimmy is literally so selfish
When my life is just like this but I'm Ian, lip and a mix of debbie...
Fucking love shameless us
Jimmy’s face 🤧 I wish him and Fiona ended up together 😭
He was terrible tbh he went In knowing Fiona’s situation and then surprised when she would do anything for the kids and he was Jimmy,Steve then jack like girl-
Can someone upload the scene where the judge talks to Fiona about what being a guardian for the kids really means
I hate about shameless how the ones who deserve the worst win like Debbie and frank and the ones who try so hard to succeed never do like Ian and Lip
It's a sad story for sure. However, DFS would have been involved if three children, 6 & under showed up at a clinic in the middle of the night. They would've been placed in a group home (I would assume).
I was Fiona with present parents.
The disrespect her character got especially in the finale is obscene
I worked in child welfare. It’s so difficult to terminate the parents rights, judges don’t tend to favor that route so kids could be in foster care for years and years. In my mind, you should be given 12 months to get it together, that’s a year your untreated addiction and mental health can affect your child. After that, termination and finding them a good home
If this is true, how the hell did they not get put in foster care? They say that all the times they got put in foster care, Fiona got them out. But she was 6 in this story. Foster care would of put the three of them (Fiona, Lip and Ian) and who would of got them out?
And at the end most of all treat her like crap, most of them didn't supported her and help her when she was down. The only one who treated her with respected all the time was Carl and Liam. But Lip, Ian and especially Debbie was so mean to her.
Why did her uncle kick them out when they were kids? Wtf
most likely frank pissed him off
@@gabriela806 yeah i guess that's screwed up to do that to them though I wouldn't do that to my niece and nephew and they're the same age Fiona was when she lived in the car
* SPOILER ALERT * This stuff comes in the later seasons where we find out that Monica slept with one of Frank’s brothers who actually ends up being Ian’s biological dad who’s wife makes him kick Ian and Lip out of the house when they try to find out the family history. Also the other brother looks almost identical to Frank plus/minus some facial hair, so it could be possible they don’t get along because Frank probably pulled a scam in his brothers’s name, got away with it and his brother ended up paying for it. Also, throughout the show, in the extended family scenes, there is mention of how many times Frank and Monica have tried to steal and scam from the family to buy drugs and alcohol and also the number of family occasions and gatherings that have been ruined by either one or both being inebriated.
So I think it’s safe to assume, the uncle kicked them out either because he thought they were pulling a scam, or because he realised Frank and Monica being such unreliable parents would add the burden of taking in so many kids for life and unwelcome drop ins from Frank and Monica for the rest of their lives
MF just said "I can keep my parental rights and she'll took all the responsibility" and "work for me" he still being a deadbeat father he shouldn't be getting parental rights because he's not a F🤬🤬🤬ing parent this just made me mad😡🤬🤬🤬
Fiona did so much for her siblings and then they turn around and treat her like trash!
Too bad Frank lived so long people like that always live way too long (I know it’s a show but there are many Franks in the world and they are very real)
What the hell !!! She was 6 at that time
Bye Frank.
why is lane there
i can’t watch this scene cause i always get pissed off at debbie and carl for almost fucking it up
SHE deserved better NOT them.They deserve shit after treating her like one.
I'd have BEEN killed Frank.
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WTF?
This is the saddest shit I've ever seen
they seem all to be smart, but also like characters in a horror movie. just pure bad decisions from beginning til the end. especially Fiona and Lip. there are other dramas in life but the writers consistently want them to be fine for a minute and then devastatingly lose it all in the next, nothing new. It's really exhausting. I kinda understand why Emmy left the show.
If you watched the show, it's kind of the premise 😂 Nothing is suppose to be going good for them.
Ok they took it too far they should say she was left whit 1 kid at 6 not 2 . How can she carry 2 kids at the age of 6 and even walk to the clinic whit 2 kids 1 in each arm even as an adult it's not easy talk less of a 6 years old child. Sounds ridiculous
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the funny thing is fiona was warned that she would be responsible until they all turn 18 and then bitched at them because she couldnt have a life of her own lmao and then just left everyone just like monica did 😂 im glad she left though. she was one of those actresses that i just couldnt stand
That's what I was thinking the judge literally said you're gonna have them till the youngest is 18, and then a few seasons later she doesnt want them anymore?
@@taylormorgan2503 because she’s been doing it since she was 9…. And they were already grown adults who didn’t need her help. Other than Liam. Who was like 10 when she left
She was tired. She took on raising them since she was 9 years old. By the time she left, they we’re basically all grown and acting wild anyway. Her staying wouldn’t have mad much of a difference. She did all she could. Debbie was out here being an unfit teenage mom, Lip threw his whole college education away and was walking around with nothing going on, Carl was causing chaos and Ian was also causing chaos along with Mickey. She had to take care of herself.