Is The Monte Carlo Catalyst Worth It? (Season Of The Witch)

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  • @friendlyelites
    @friendlyelites 10 месяцев назад +190

    I can see this being absolutely insane with the new strand titan Aspect, you can also run Flechette storm in lower tier content for a ranged option between bayonets.

    • @DitzyDollie22
      @DitzyDollie22 10 месяцев назад +5

      With synthoceps and Monte flechette storm melts even high level enemies

    • @Changingtesting
      @Changingtesting 10 месяцев назад +5

      Was running monte and synthoceps with the new strand aspect, flechette storm, with a glaive(or maybe a one two punch shotgun) and crown splitter. Was using this loadout while farming for the monte cat. Crown splitter is absolutely insane, most bosses hit their health gate or death before I was able to get whirlwind blade to 10x and use the heavy attack but I was doing 90k+ for a heavy swing on a boss so do with that as you will. Very enjoyable playstyle. Fun for lower end content. Maybe swap synthos with strongholds and you could possibly take this loadout into end game content.

    • @doomskull7549
      @doomskull7549 10 месяцев назад +2

      Flechette storm + synthos does more damage than tcrash

    • @SpliffyHusk
      @SpliffyHusk 10 месяцев назад

      Ran a melee build in GMs, fletchette storm Can burn a champion with syntho active

  • @Arteps1
    @Arteps1 10 месяцев назад +114

    Over 600k is nuts, but then again this is an exotic primary and I have a feeling that the 40% damage buff against minors is mostly responsible for it. In any case, I'll be trying it out against a champ once I get the caty since that's where I'll probably use it the most

    • @badeye7623
      @badeye7623 10 месяцев назад +9

      240k against yellow bar

    • @Arteps1
      @Arteps1 10 месяцев назад +10

      @@badeye7623 thanks, spares me the wait. 240k isn't too bad, is this with or without synthos?

    • @DaHoonter
      @DaHoonter 10 месяцев назад +4

      ​@@Arteps1with

    • @Blahblahblaafmn
      @Blahblahblaafmn 10 месяцев назад +5

      @@badeye7623 Gonna be somethin seeing champs getting le big knife rammed into their foreheads

  • @lonewolf-0459
    @lonewolf-0459 10 месяцев назад +81

    I was honestly hoping for a bit more blade action instead of just a singular swing but it does got good damage all things considered.

    • @LIscariot
      @LIscariot 10 месяцев назад +7

      After the swing, if you got a kill you get markov chain refreshed and you can load another bayonet right away

    • @RlVlN
      @RlVlN 10 месяцев назад +7

      @@LIscariot saying load another knife reminds me of the ballistic from Black Ops. Shooting out the bayonet would’ve been pretty cool

    • @thesavagegummybear7341
      @thesavagegummybear7341 10 месяцев назад +3

      @@LIscariotbut it sucks you still have to hold the button, it should just automatically stay in bayonet mode

  • @Honed-
    @Honed- 10 месяцев назад +4

    i think markov chains is great for a clean up kill. im woundering if synthos incresse the damage of it in pvp as well.

  • @AnonEMus-cp2mn
    @AnonEMus-cp2mn 10 месяцев назад +8

    For Solar Hunters the explosive throwing knife is _very_ easy to get PvE kills with. Any final blow with one (no matter if a weaker wounded enemy is running past the intended target) will instantly refresh a new throwing knife again. Considering I run Monte Carlo exclusively with throwing knives, Goldtusk sword, and Shards of Galanor (to increase blade barrage frequency). You better believe I find a ton of utility in adding another blade attack to my arsenal. Not to mention that it rewards a mobile close-and-personal playstyle.

    • @alifismy5689
      @alifismy5689 10 месяцев назад +1

      Holy shit, that's a lot of knives!
      I'm gonna try using your build

    • @artdog0100
      @artdog0100 10 месяцев назад +3

      If Stylish Executioner works with it, this void build of mine will work too? Vorpal backstabs.

    • @AnonEMus-cp2mn
      @AnonEMus-cp2mn 10 месяцев назад

      @@alifismy5689 Only a week ago I encountered another hunter, both of us wearing Iron Companion cloaks with nearly identical builds, but he took it a step further with a glaive as a secondary for yet another pointy-stabby weapon. At that point your hunter would be throwing an entire kitchen's worth of silverware at the enemy.

    • @AnonEMus-cp2mn
      @AnonEMus-cp2mn 10 месяцев назад

      @@artdog0100 That sounds like a solid PvP build. Got through Iron Banner many times with invisible dodges, desperate melee kills, and specter blades.

    • @alifismy5689
      @alifismy5689 10 месяцев назад

      @@AnonEMus-cp2mn BRUH 🤣🤣🤣

  • @BersrkirCrusader
    @BersrkirCrusader 10 месяцев назад +14

    Perfect, I just like the bayonet stuff (and the pve damage is insane). Now I'm gonna make a weird niche build that will be for my liking.

  • @blitzgear02
    @blitzgear02 10 месяцев назад +2

    Have you tried using this with Dunemarchers in Crucible? Not only that, but do you consider it feasible to soften up the target with a bit of chip damage using Monte itself before striking?

    • @coinisinorbit
      @coinisinorbit 10 месяцев назад

      Necrotic grips and a glaive would be your friends here

  • @yzer9975
    @yzer9975 10 месяцев назад +1

    Doing it in Momentum sounds like a riot, you'd become an ambush melee killer with a deadly lunge

  • @exile9024
    @exile9024 10 месяцев назад

    I could see it being pretty good if you have a team of them in PvP or if you are playing a solar hunter with proc knives.

  • @randomgamer4458
    @randomgamer4458 10 месяцев назад +1

    I was hoping you’d have the option to choose between using it as a glaive or a gun

  • @tenderquirkydragon8643
    @tenderquirkydragon8643 10 месяцев назад

    I have a feeling Liar's Handshake might benefit a lot from this caty too

  • @giantslayer9335
    @giantslayer9335 10 месяцев назад +1

    The bayonet melee might actually have a purpose as a sort of finisher in PvP. Get someone down to low health as you approach then finish them off with a melee that can lock on at high range

    • @SpliffyHusk
      @SpliffyHusk 10 месяцев назад

      Not happening often

    • @ToaOfFusion
      @ToaOfFusion 10 месяцев назад

      @@SpliffyHuskIn all fairness, the season just started a few days ago so give it several weeks and we'll see if this catches on in the PvP meta

  • @emraldxd6797
    @emraldxd6797 10 месяцев назад +1

    If it gives extra melee ability, strand hunters are saved. Slap on 2 impact induction mods and you got grenades for days

    • @AnonEMus-cp2mn
      @AnonEMus-cp2mn 10 месяцев назад

      I already get explosive throwing knives returned with every final blow. Now Monte Carlo having more methods of getting it it back is insane. Slap on some melee-to-Super mods with Shards of Galanor and any Solar Hunter will be yeeting an entire kitchen of silverware!

  • @mjollnirjc
    @mjollnirjc 10 месяцев назад +1

    Now is the time to unlock my inner Kriegsman.

  • @quadratic5392
    @quadratic5392 10 месяцев назад

    Maybe try it with arc hunter combination blow and dodge aspect

  • @xenohari251
    @xenohari251 10 месяцев назад

    so what is the bayonet damage with 5x markov?

  • @vaepuer2290
    @vaepuer2290 10 месяцев назад +2

    I think the Hunter Exotic from last season - Triton Vice - Could interact well, if it's considered a glaive in game?

    • @theoutlaw6044
      @theoutlaw6044 10 месяцев назад +4

      Why? It's strictly worse than Synthoceps. Triton is only a 30% buff while near 3+ enemies while Synthoceps is a 50% buff while near 3+ enemies which lingers for another 8 seconds.

    • @vaepuer2290
      @vaepuer2290 10 месяцев назад

      @@theoutlaw6044 now buddy, dont get your panties in a twist. I was just making a suggestion. Yes, titan can use syntho but im trying to look past the same old exotics we use every season, and since Hunters dont have syntho I thinks pretty reasonable to try it. If you find a way to equip synthos on hunter, please, do let me know

    • @Bloodhurl67
      @Bloodhurl67 10 месяцев назад +2

      Yeah just, no. The best exotic that synergizes the best with Monte is Athrys Embrace. You'll not only be able to have a strengthened heavy throwing knife(Which is a one tap in pvp) after a few precision hits youll be able to have max monte stacks after getting a kill with it.

  • @onine4515
    @onine4515 10 месяцев назад

    Does it also stack with one two punch and worm husk

  • @crabbypatty10fefrefe
    @crabbypatty10fefrefe 10 месяцев назад

    Try it with Arc Hunter. Combination Blow and Liars' Handshake.

  • @gunr4
    @gunr4 10 месяцев назад

    Does it work with necrotic grip?

  • @jeffreys.hobbies
    @jeffreys.hobbies 10 месяцев назад +1

    The PVE usage of this gun reminds me of melee zer0 builds from borderlands. Looks fun, but disappointing that it's not better in pvp

  • @Joini_LwS
    @Joini_LwS 10 месяцев назад +3

    This just adds to my burn the world build

    • @AnonEMus-cp2mn
      @AnonEMus-cp2mn 10 месяцев назад +1

      Another blade for my Solar Hunter build, complete with a GoldTusk sword, Shards of Galanor, and Iron Champion armor (aesthetics with blades strapped everywhere). I actually found someone rocking a similar build but they took it a step further with a glaive for extra stabby-stabby.

  • @a118studios7
    @a118studios7 9 месяцев назад

    my granpa told that many times the bayonete would get stuck on the enemy's body, and the only way to get it out was shoting...

  • @Averagedestiny2addict
    @Averagedestiny2addict 10 месяцев назад +1

    Still gonna get it

  • @usurpererenyeagar4587
    @usurpererenyeagar4587 10 месяцев назад +1

    iam wondering if it can proc liars handshake melee damage boost if so iam pretty sure it will be the arc build this season

    • @AnonEMus-cp2mn
      @AnonEMus-cp2mn 10 месяцев назад +1

      I hope it procs explosive throwing knives. Those things are so easy to get PvE final blows they practically proc themselves.

    • @giga-egg
      @giga-egg 10 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@AnonEMus-cp2mnit procs on bonk hammer so probably

    • @usurpererenyeagar4587
      @usurpererenyeagar4587 10 месяцев назад

      season looking lit too bad iam in final year oh highschool and wont get to play a lot@@giga-egg

  • @MildsandThatYac
    @MildsandThatYac 10 месяцев назад

    *Smiles in Solar Titan*

  • @MrNuclearz
    @MrNuclearz 10 месяцев назад +2

    Where does the catalyst drop?

  • @LutherMahoney
    @LutherMahoney 10 месяцев назад +2

    So come back next Season? Gotcha!

  • @softlyraining2025
    @softlyraining2025 10 месяцев назад

    ...I have a winter's guile build idea

  • @liamkane5453
    @liamkane5453 10 месяцев назад

    Maybe I'm crazy, but I feel like a cooler idea would have been a bayonet charge that did more damage based on the number of enemies you hit in a single run

  • @ytaussiewolf8619
    @ytaussiewolf8619 10 месяцев назад

    Is the catalyst random drop?

  • @makeouthill_17rv7
    @makeouthill_17rv7 10 месяцев назад +73

    Perfect season to finally give thorn a cat and we get monty instead. What happened to getting more than one cat a season

    • @cosmogyre
      @cosmogyre 10 месяцев назад +13

      Maybe cuz this one was so hard to make?

    • @pricemedlin5651
      @pricemedlin5651 10 месяцев назад +21

      @@cosmogyreboo hoo it’s a 2 billion dollar game studio, not that hard they just don’t care about the game

    • @quixotic_mind
      @quixotic_mind 10 месяцев назад

      @@pricemedlin5651 3, 3 billion

    • @Seals_R_us
      @Seals_R_us 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@pricemedlin5651alright, then you make it lil bro💀

    • @chronoside
      @chronoside 10 месяцев назад +15

      @@cosmogyremy brother in light they put glaive mechanics on an alt fire it cannot be that hard

  • @glitchframe6784
    @glitchframe6784 10 месяцев назад +1

    I feel let down, kind of bummed on this. I dont use monte carlo for uncharged melee, I only use it to regen my charged melee. Honestly i would have liked the catalyst to improve the melee regen without having to swap to a stab mode, or at 5 stacks, hold reload to consume all stacks and grant all melee charges based on stacks consumed etc.

    • @YardsaleAbsurdity
      @YardsaleAbsurdity 10 месяцев назад

      Just keep shooting. The melee Regen is amazing on its own. This catalyst is great with the inherit swashbuckler

    • @glitchframe6784
      @glitchframe6784 10 месяцев назад

      @@YardsaleAbsurdity haha, so basically just use it without the catalyst, like i have been doing this whole time. Still bummed that the catalyst wont do anything for my playstyle

  • @jagan9235
    @jagan9235 10 месяцев назад

    why not try knockout in pvp?

  • @reidwynja7236
    @reidwynja7236 10 месяцев назад

    Does the catalyst drop from ritual playlists?

    • @sexy
      @sexy  10 месяцев назад +1

      yes

  • @llennnotfound7001
    @llennnotfound7001 10 месяцев назад

    Blunt execution rounds, question mark?

  • @MD-rf9ok
    @MD-rf9ok 10 месяцев назад +1

    The god killer weapon!

  • @xavierhoward24
    @xavierhoward24 10 месяцев назад +3

    Ima use it bc stabby

  • @alpine6610
    @alpine6610 10 месяцев назад

    Would it work with 12 punch?

    • @acanofwhoopass4599
      @acanofwhoopass4599 10 месяцев назад

      I think the shotgun has to be out for one two punch to proc but I’m not sure

  • @bryanmckinney5639
    @bryanmckinney5639 10 месяцев назад

    ITS AMAZING SOO MUCH FUN!!

  • @4d4m444
    @4d4m444 10 месяцев назад

    Bonk hammer without the hammer

  • @AndrewOnYoutube
    @AndrewOnYoutube 10 месяцев назад

    The way i see it, it's some extra awesome looking shit on top of a gun that was already dope

  • @dontme6996
    @dontme6996 10 месяцев назад

    Might not be 660k+ on bosses, but it'll still be pretty high

  • @smurphy55656
    @smurphy55656 10 месяцев назад +2

    Seems a bit annoying to have to reactivate it every time you use it would be nice if it automatically procs again if you got a kill

    • @YardsaleAbsurdity
      @YardsaleAbsurdity 10 месяцев назад

      Then you can't use charged melee?

    • @smurphy55656
      @smurphy55656 10 месяцев назад

      @OmegaThot_762 can't use charged melee while you activate it anyway so i don't see any harm in having the ability to chain bayonet kills until you hit something you can't kill in 1 shot

  • @hansiesilver2991
    @hansiesilver2991 10 месяцев назад

    Yes please

  • @aliteralfrog7005
    @aliteralfrog7005 10 месяцев назад

    it would be very cool if you put me in your next vid
    (Its Beep Boop from that momentum control match)

  • @ReapThySorrow
    @ReapThySorrow 10 месяцев назад

    Hell yeah monte carlo is my baby

  • @arbiter530
    @arbiter530 10 месяцев назад

    GYAAT 😍

  • @lordgrub12345
    @lordgrub12345 10 месяцев назад

    Stab stab stab- sniper tf2

  • @jakenotjake899
    @jakenotjake899 10 месяцев назад

    The bayonet doesn’t even one shot in pvp lmao

  • @saikopomp
    @saikopomp 10 месяцев назад

    Niche build
    Monte-liars handshake/assassins cowl
    invis pow
    Or arc pow
    Shit even on strand swing pow monte pow 😂

    • @theoutlaw6044
      @theoutlaw6044 10 месяцев назад

      pow?

    • @saikopomp
      @saikopomp 10 месяцев назад

      @@theoutlaw6044 😂 sorry it’s supposed to be like “stab!” instead my bad

  • @RobAaronCrow
    @RobAaronCrow 10 месяцев назад

    finaly

  • @MorikTheRed
    @MorikTheRed 10 месяцев назад +7

    So a useless pvp weapon😂
    Bungie shoulda just make it a permanent uses. Or atless one shot players

    • @RegenAgent
      @RegenAgent 10 месяцев назад +6

      Pvp so nobody really cares anyway

    • @fraserduffy4576
      @fraserduffy4576 10 месяцев назад +4

      God forbid they make a catalyst that’s just fun

    • @MorikTheRed
      @MorikTheRed 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@RegenAgent the way bungie announced, everyone thought it would be like a glaive.. but they under delivered it and so bungie won't make any changes like cerberus+1 catalyst😔

    • @MorikTheRed
      @MorikTheRed 10 месяцев назад

      @@fraserduffy4576 it woulda been a lot of fun. Double glaives

    • @kireative
      @kireative 10 месяцев назад

      Markov Chain x5 grants 33% dmg increasing so I guess it can one-shot if you're fast enough

  • @rebirthmode3437
    @rebirthmode3437 10 месяцев назад

    PVE Nerf inc

  • @eugen5100
    @eugen5100 10 месяцев назад

    How about endgame content, because you don’t need 600k for red bar enemy ☠️

  • @Blackronin357
    @Blackronin357 10 месяцев назад +1

    Crazy good dmg for PvE. Stop caring about PvP 😂

  • @richardespinoza9989
    @richardespinoza9989 10 месяцев назад +2

    Not a one shot in pvp? Its trash

  • @hmmdoh7835
    @hmmdoh7835 10 месяцев назад

    In pvp all u really need is immortal 😂

  • @giga-egg
    @giga-egg 10 месяцев назад

    why are ppl whining about it being bad in pvp
    its monte its not meant for pvp
    im sorry you can only play pvp and find no joy in pve but stop complaining when you havent even used it in pve

    • @akeecheyta
      @akeecheyta 10 месяцев назад

      Notice how bungie panicked when the pvp player base gave up? It's a huge chunk of the community

    • @giga-egg
      @giga-egg 10 месяцев назад

      @@akeecheyta im just saying
      monte has always been for pve not pvp so idk why ppl are whining so much about it
      sure thorn shouldve gotten a catalyst too but its probably going to get one next season anyways since everyone wants it so badly

  • @jeffreyadams9506
    @jeffreyadams9506 10 месяцев назад +3

    Should have been a last word catalyst.

    • @nicholasevans5518
      @nicholasevans5518 10 месяцев назад +1

      No

    • @binguser386
      @binguser386 10 месяцев назад +2

      Thorn would also be a great candidate for a catalyst

  • @user-vn6ol1jn9l
    @user-vn6ol1jn9l 10 месяцев назад

    Not worth the hype, if it was ... bungie would nerf it anyway.

  • @Eshtian
    @Eshtian 10 месяцев назад

    I can think of several cases for this that are all awesome...
    Too bad the game is shit

  • @kit_horror
    @kit_horror 10 месяцев назад

    Didn't expect it to be anything actually unique. It's disappointing, just like the rest of the content so far

    • @sh4d0w-r0ss-8
      @sh4d0w-r0ss-8 10 месяцев назад +2

      cry

    • @kit_horror
      @kit_horror 10 месяцев назад

      @@sh4d0w-r0ss-8 give it a couple weeks and you'll see lol

  • @ExWitDaFacts
    @ExWitDaFacts 10 месяцев назад

    I don’t use the gun so my opinion does not matter at all, but seriously why are people okay with this being the catalyst or even catalyst of the season. It should have just been a perk/trait to begin with. The bayonet has basically been a waste for 6 years (or however long Monte Carlo has been out) and now they wanna do something with it? Get tf outta here. Typical Bungie move.