My Veteran status got removed when I did the New Light quest when Beyond Light launched. It is nice that they included a backup trigger for the veteran dialogue.
Will note - All Calus related veteran dialogue apply to anyone who played Haunted, EXCEPT for the line where he refers to you as his Shadow. That's opulence only.
@@vogavationthe Title shadow. Basically the season of opulence/crown of sorrow title. The seal thing that you can earn. You actually needed flawless crown to get it.
when nimbus said "hey can you that glowy hand trick thing" when your guardian is a warlock it reminded mewhen cayde asked petra to show the guardian the coolknife trick to us.
When your world is ending, you haven't sat down in months, your family is dead, your planets being invaded by an armada of hell itself....and you're telling me it's WEIRD TO ACT SOLEMN AND DISTANT? Jesus fucking Christ, people must hate you at funerals
Same, I never even got the season pass and only did a few Nightmare Hunts for both the first quest and some triumphs, yet I still got Calus’s veteran dialogue
There was a line in the Spire of the Watcher lore where Clovis said that there were Exos on the colony ships that Soteria was sending out, including the one that (presumably) crashed on Neptune. Additionally, I got a Neomuna Civil News broadcast at one point (during Terminal Overload, I believe?) where Jisu mentioned that Exos had been presumed extinct, and that the Neomunans were surprised to learn that there were several living Exos in the system still. I suspect they had a few surviving Exos on Neptune centuries ago that have all since died out because they had no ability to replicate, but I can't say for sure- the new stuff about the Ishtar Collective landing a colony project here intentionally, in addition (?) to Soteria's wayward ship from Spire, has me a bit confused on the early history of Neomuna.
What we learned from Spire of the Watcher seems to imply that the collapse was already imminent by time the ship was launched, as that’s what caused soteria to launch it earlier
Doesn’t look like he did. It was just some dialogue the uploader missed from shadowkeep from the looks of it. Although, Devrim and Toland share the same voice actor so it’s not out of the question for them to decide to make new lines for that opportunity.
@@pxm2337 Either way, it has been a very long time since Toland was mentioned in the story. Since Nezarec became a person of interest over time, hopefully the same can happen to Toland too.
Iirc, toland merely resides on his tiny rock of a 'throne world' and just roam around like a grumpy ghost whenever taken/hive/ascendant plane relevant. I dont think he would be plot important, so to speak, until his intimacy is needed. Even then, now that Mara Sov is alive and active, she's a much better source of plot and knowledge than Toland in that aforementioned regard If Toland is to be relevant, it's more than likely another focus into Eris and the Hive. Maybe once Xivu comes into play but Mara has already encountered her in a throne world battle so once again, she'll more likely be the medium for plot. A shame, we had a lot of Toland lore in D1 and the best we got is a passive aggressive wisp
@@raptormaverick4774 considering toland was a very mentioned character from even D1, and nezarec its just mentioned en D2 nezarec sin exotic + they hired his VA again + the line between light and dark its now almost completely broken, i would almost EXPECT him to be a major character in the next seasons/expansion
I’m still salty that even tho i played d1 since i didn’t import my character i get dialogues as if i didn’t play it…i think it should be based on account-wide progress
@@mrsneedleton3254 I don't think there should be new light dialogue. Weave the dialogue so that it fills in newcomers and refreshes veterans at the same time.
Given what they have running through the CloudArk, it’s not unlikely that Exos are compatible. But it still doesn’t feel like a good idea……… [Long Slow Whisper]
From Wikipedia: “Argyria or argyrosis is a condition caused by excessive exposure to chemical compounds of the element silver, or to silver dust. The most dramatic symptom of argyria is that the skin turns blue or blue-grey.”
the unknown thing quinn said in the awoken dialogue was “argyrosis”, which is a condition caused by chronic exposure to silver that causes skin to turn blue
Am so happy that I got to play the levitation back in the day still miss it to this day. Calus is my favourite character in D2 right next to Cade-6 and lord-shaxxs. If there ever was an opt to join Calus I would have done it in a heart beat
4:30 Argyrosis - ‘a condition caused by chronic exposure to chemical forms of the element silver. The most recognized symptom is the dramatic blue or bluish-grey colored skin.’
Man it sucks that I wasn't able to experience Vanilla D2. I played D1 before D2, but started playing D2 during Season 15. Probably started playing D1 a little before that. Like around Season 13 time. It makes me so sad. I would have loved playing through Red War, Curse of Osiris, and Warmind. Especially Curse of Osiris(Fan made guardian lore. You wouldn't understand). I was able to play Forsaken tho. W dlc. Went so hard.
I got the Veteran Guardian dialogue for everything except the first line calling you a Shadow. Funny, cause I never played Haunted, but sure as hell did love Leviathan.
It's nice to see some of these things happening, it seems at times elements of the past are ignored in most dialogue and cutscenes. Hell even with the exo stranger she doesn't acknowledge the fact we met her aaaaall the way back in D1 to deal with the vex and the black heart. That would be a neat callback for veteran players... That and callbacks to us being an iron lord, our defeat of various different bosses from the past and so on... It's nice to have the game acknowledge the fact that some of us happen to have played a part in events from the beginning to now.
Congenital Argyrosis, (Argyrosis, derived from the Greek word for silver (argyros), is a condition caused by chronic exposure to chemical forms of the element silver. The most recognized symptom is the dramatic blue or bluish-grey coloured skin) so Congenital Argyrosis would be a form of Argyrosis present from birth. Basically the question is in regards to the skin tones of the awoken people.
It’s such a cool idea that the young wolf could have commanded the entire taken army and oryx’s army . Maybe that’s how the guardian can help overthrow the witness and claim his army of taken and hive from xivu arath.
Maybe that’s how the Hive inevitably join us instead of the Lucent Brood joining us. Although it’s more likely they stay “squandered” and either Savathun or Xivu (more likely Xivu given Sava has discarded the sword logic) eventually take them
@@Lylybeebee what i meant is that the lucent brood will be most likely the first to join us because they lost the sword logic so they don't need to kill to survive (basically evolving back to the krill), and the original hive has to kill to live and grow so it's unlikely they're going to join us
I played the campaign 3 times for each of my characters and I was wondering if I had a fever dream cause some lines were not what I remember from my first play through lol
i wish i played destiny 1 on my own account. i started destiny 1 as a hunter on my uncle's xbox account and did everything there. by the time i got my own xbox account it was too late, i was in too deep on his account to simply restart all the way from the beggining on my account. so i started fresh on destiny 2 on my account. i wish i would be able to hear the d1 veteran lines in d2, but i cannot, even though i was present in all those events and beat the game.
The first two harpy puzzles I didn't even know there was a puzzle, just so happened to kill them in the right order and I was just wondering what the heck they were talking about.
This just makes me angry. The main quest arc still treats our Guardian as if we actually HAVE done all the things the real Guardian has done since the beginning of D1, even if they haven't. And since nothing from before Shadowkeep is playable, new players will never EVER get to experience it for themselves. Not to mention literally the past 19 seasons worth of story content that is completely inaccessible. Bungie do not care about consistency or quality or continuity
Question: isn’t there an idle line spoken by Nimbus on the lines of “Hey, you’ve got some cool hardware!” when you’re an Exo? Or am I imagining things.
Toland: *Is mad at you for not taking over the Hidden Swarm or Oryx’s brood after Crota’s End/Kings Fall.* Guardian: “I killed them so I could get loot, not become a Hive God.”
I wish the care they put into the veteran dialogue would’ve transferred over to the guardian rank. Increasing your guardian rank doesn’t even seem to matter since you get just about nothing out of it but also everyone just resets to rank 6 after every season. It’s like being a “veteran” doesn’t matter, especially since everyone is a “veteran”, including new lights
I am so confused.... I have gotten half these alt dialog and missed the other half. I stopped playing for 2 years and I guess the game knows which seasons I've missed
it really sucks that since ive been playing on pc since release, i gont get the veteran dialogue for the things that require a d1 character despite having played d1 since vanilla. i guess i just have to keep watching these videos for the d1 vet dialouge
The 'veteran' lines appear to also apply to Season of Haunted, not just Leviathan and Opulence.
Also, 4:30, Quinn says 'argyrosis.'
My Veteran status got removed when I did the New Light quest when Beyond Light launched. It is nice that they included a backup trigger for the veteran dialogue.
Can confirm, I was only around for season of the haunted, but not opulence.
1:22 "Alas! This day, I have no bitches in store for you"
I cant unhear it
I love the way he says "At last you have AAARRIIIIIVED" guardian
For Veteran Lights who did Forsaken and the Season of Opulence
i was so glad calus called me his shadow that was a nice little touch after i’ve played every single piece of leviathan content
You poor soul
@@This_Pleases_The_Nut levi was fun wdym
@@xolagix 💀💀 fuck no it wasn’t, literally had me hopping back into D1 to play that still when leviathan was out.
@Jesse Toledo i got like 800 clears of that raid. Absolutly loved it
@@jessetoledo4418 i think what he means is that say why you don't like it and not just comment something meaningless
I'm so glad for these videos. I didn't even think about Shadows getting different dialogue from Calus.
Is that from having the seal or something? I didn't get those dialogue
@@sunnydark1664 Yes it’s a Vaulted Title Seal
@@Zekerington that's explains thing I never got that seal
@@sunnydark1664 Me neither lol, it was vaulted after Beyond Light’s release I believe
@@sunnydark1664 yep season of opulence yu had to do the raid triumphs as well to get it
Will note - All Calus related veteran dialogue apply to anyone who played Haunted, EXCEPT for the line where he refers to you as his Shadow. That's opulence only.
Actually, It's probably tied to titles, because i have gotten all 'veteran'lines except that one
Same
When I heard the “my shadow…”
I quickly freaked out and had to confirm it was with one of my non-shadow friends.
Good thing I wasn't Calus' shadow, or I'd would ended up like Katabasis on the Glykon
what makes you a shadow to get that dialogue? I did leviathan and played during opulence
@@vogavationthe Title shadow. Basically the season of opulence/crown of sorrow title.
The seal thing that you can earn. You actually needed flawless crown to get it.
when nimbus said "hey can you that glowy hand trick thing" when your guardian is a warlock it reminded mewhen cayde asked petra to show the guardian the coolknife trick to us.
1:23
You can’t convince me he said “riches”
I love that the Neomuni don't just sound like they're bored all the time, like others often do
quinn and tse >>>
My Brother
Honestly, I agree. I'll take these guys over a Shaw Han any day
When your world is ending, you haven't sat down in months, your family is dead, your planets being invaded by an armada of hell itself....and you're telling me it's WEIRD TO ACT SOLEMN AND DISTANT? Jesus fucking Christ, people must hate you at funerals
The more bored dark and gloomy it is the better imo, the rest is corny
1:22 i swear to god i hear him say bitches instead of riches everytime i hear this line.
I got the veteran dialogue from Calus, but the only thing associated with the Leviathan I did was Season of the Haunted.
Dito
Ditto, I got the reaper title. So that may be a factor
Same, I never even got the season pass and only did a few Nightmare Hunts for both the first quest and some triumphs, yet I still got Calus’s veteran dialogue
@@gagefarris has your character existed since then? If it was made before or during that's probably why.
Same
1:26 if I have the audio lower it always sounds like he says "no bitches" and its fucking hilarious
I mean Calus has no riches and no bitches
"I have no bitches for you today, Guardian"
Dang Calus, you used to be cool
lmao
Dude same here. Especially playing for hundreds of times. That part was rough.
even with it loud the effect distortion only silences the first letter
The Neomuni not knowing much about Exo is interesting, cause it dates them leaving to before the Exo program started
There was a line in the Spire of the Watcher lore where Clovis said that there were Exos on the colony ships that Soteria was sending out, including the one that (presumably) crashed on Neptune. Additionally, I got a Neomuna Civil News broadcast at one point (during Terminal Overload, I believe?) where Jisu mentioned that Exos had been presumed extinct, and that the Neomunans were surprised to learn that there were several living Exos in the system still. I suspect they had a few surviving Exos on Neptune centuries ago that have all since died out because they had no ability to replicate, but I can't say for sure- the new stuff about the Ishtar Collective landing a colony project here intentionally, in addition (?) to Soteria's wayward ship from Spire, has me a bit confused on the early history of Neomuna.
What we learned from Spire of the Watcher seems to imply that the collapse was already imminent by time the ship was launched, as that’s what caused soteria to launch it earlier
they simply thought the exos went extinct, as was even mentioned in game. the exo program was definitely well underway before the collapse
Hold up. Toland had new dialogue?! I almost forgot about him! Hopefully Bungie brings him back in Season of The Deep
Doesn’t look like he did. It was just some dialogue the uploader missed from shadowkeep from the looks of it. Although, Devrim and Toland share the same voice actor so it’s not out of the question for them to decide to make new lines for that opportunity.
@@pxm2337 Either way, it has been a very long time since Toland was mentioned in the story. Since Nezarec became a person of interest over time, hopefully the same can happen to Toland too.
Iirc, toland merely resides on his tiny rock of a 'throne world' and just roam around like a grumpy ghost whenever taken/hive/ascendant plane relevant.
I dont think he would be plot important, so to speak, until his intimacy is needed. Even then, now that Mara Sov is alive and active, she's a much better source of plot and knowledge than Toland in that aforementioned regard
If Toland is to be relevant, it's more than likely another focus into Eris and the Hive. Maybe once Xivu comes into play but Mara has already encountered her in a throne world battle so once again, she'll more likely be the medium for plot.
A shame, we had a lot of Toland lore in D1 and the best we got is a passive aggressive wisp
@@raptormaverick4774 considering toland was a very mentioned character from even D1, and nezarec its just mentioned en D2 nezarec sin exotic + they hired his VA again + the line between light and dark its now almost completely broken, i would almost EXPECT him to be a major character in the next seasons/expansion
@@HibiscusOrchid Don't know why they did not bring him back for the Season of Haunted, also wish they do something with Praedyth as well
Sam: "back atcha! I couldnt do this without you!"
Me at 3am half asleep running this mission: :')
For the nezarec dialogue you can also hear it using the delicate tomb exotic fusion rifle.
This type of dialogue makes me so nostalgic for the older days of D2!!! It's so cool that they're still acknowledging everything we did back then :D
6:10 you can hear the pride in Ghost's voice
The fact that Bungie still keeps putting effort into veteran dialogue is such a W
Let's be fair, it's more like they're adding New Light dialogue. It often feels like the veteran dialogue is the normal one.
I’m still salty that even tho i played d1 since i didn’t import my character i get dialogues as if i didn’t play it…i think it should be based on account-wide progress
@@mrsneedleton3254 I don't think there should be new light dialogue. Weave the dialogue so that it fills in newcomers and refreshes veterans at the same time.
They need to fix it though, cause my veteran dialogue doesn't work after the bungie Activision split years ago.
Damn, they even made voicelines for Guardians who've been active since the first game? That's some solid dedication to detail, I'll admit.
This is great. Makes everyone feel like the main character
Thumbnail looks like the Witness is blowing a bubblegum. 😂
dammit I just realized it wasn't in the video.
“My guardian is special”-ghost
Given what they have running through the CloudArk, it’s not unlikely that Exos are compatible. But it still doesn’t feel like a good idea………
[Long Slow Whisper]
From Wikipedia: “Argyria or argyrosis is a condition caused by excessive exposure to chemical compounds of the element silver, or to silver dust. The most dramatic symptom of argyria is that the skin turns blue or blue-grey.”
Imagine that becomes a plot point-
@@vV_Viggo well I mean...
the unknown thing quinn said in the awoken dialogue was “argyrosis”, which is a condition caused by chronic exposure to silver that causes skin to turn blue
I remember when ghost said “my guardian is special” I quickly said after “as in needs” 😭
My bungie name is "Your Local Autistic" so i know how ypu feel
1:22 It sounded like Calus said “I have no bitches”
It's weird to think that there was probably more calus dialogue in haunted than in lightfall.
Am so happy that I got to play the levitation back in the day still miss it to this day. Calus is my favourite character in D2 right next to Cade-6 and lord-shaxxs.
If there ever was an opt to join Calus I would have done it in a heart beat
Levithan and it's Raid Lairs were so good, i still miss them.
I fucking LOVE the way Calus says “At last, you have arriiiiiiiiived, Guardian” it gets a chuckle out of me every time
4:30 Argyrosis - ‘a condition caused by chronic exposure to chemical forms of the element silver. The most recognized symptom is the dramatic blue or bluish-grey colored skin.’
1:26 calus has no bitches in store for us
Man it sucks that I wasn't able to experience Vanilla D2.
I played D1 before D2, but started playing D2 during Season 15. Probably started playing D1 a little before that. Like around Season 13 time.
It makes me so sad. I would have loved playing through Red War, Curse of Osiris, and Warmind. Especially Curse of Osiris(Fan made guardian lore. You wouldn't understand).
I was able to play Forsaken tho. W dlc. Went so hard.
My flawless crown of sorrow finally paid of after all these years to hear daddy calus notice me
I think there's some dialog from Misraaks when doing the vexcalibur mission that might be different for Splicers
"I have made you what you are! Now let us see if you were worth the effort"
With Leviathan being the first raid i ever did, It really feels like that
11:28 Isn't this Red War vet dialogue
I hope we get more title based veteran dialog. One more reason to work for those little emblems
I got the Veteran Guardian dialogue for everything except the first line calling you a Shadow. Funny, cause I never played Haunted, but sure as hell did love Leviathan.
It's nice to see some of these things happening, it seems at times elements of the past are ignored in most dialogue and cutscenes. Hell even with the exo stranger she doesn't acknowledge the fact we met her aaaaall the way back in D1 to deal with the vex and the black heart. That would be a neat callback for veteran players... That and callbacks to us being an iron lord, our defeat of various different bosses from the past and so on... It's nice to have the game acknowledge the fact that some of us happen to have played a part in events from the beginning to now.
I'm so glad I get a specific line for having the shadow seal finally justice for us shadows 😭 only dredgens had something...
hearing toland saying new lights killed ghaul now : 👀
I'm amazed that people like yourself are so attentive that they find stuff like this
Doing that partition mission all I screamed was "who the fuck is sammmmm"
Tremendously angry at myself for not getting the shadow title
Congenital Argyrosis, (Argyrosis, derived from the Greek word for silver (argyros), is a condition caused by chronic exposure to chemical forms of the element silver. The most recognized symptom is the dramatic blue or bluish-grey coloured skin) so Congenital Argyrosis would be a form of Argyrosis present from birth.
Basically the question is in regards to the skin tones of the awoken people.
The thumbnail looks like the witness is blowing bubblegum
The thumbnail looks like the witness is blowing a nice big bubble
Ever since Halo Infinite I can't help but hear Darin DePaul as Escharum, even when he's clearly putting in a different persona as Calus.
2:49 legit i completed this first try without seeing what should i do by accident because of volatile rounds lmao
Thanks for compiling these. This is awesome!
Damn going all the way back to vanilla d1 is a nice touch I gotta find that spot that Toland is in for that dialogue
It’s such a cool idea that the young wolf could have commanded the entire taken army and oryx’s army .
Maybe that’s how the guardian can help overthrow the witness and claim his army of taken and hive from xivu arath.
Maybe that’s how the Hive inevitably join us instead of the Lucent Brood joining us. Although it’s more likely they stay “squandered” and either Savathun or Xivu (more likely Xivu given Sava has discarded the sword logic) eventually take them
@@Lylybeebee the lucent brood is slowly losing the sword logic because of the light in savathun's throne world
@@GravitonLance Thats what I meant by "Sava has discarded the sword logic"
@@Lylybeebee what i meant is that the lucent brood will be most likely the first to join us because they lost the sword logic so they don't need to kill to survive (basically evolving back to the krill), and the original hive has to kill to live and grow so it's unlikely they're going to join us
I played the campaign 3 times for each of my characters and I was wondering if I had a fever dream cause some lines were not what I remember from my first play through lol
damn toland stay dissing for not taking the mantle cant blame him i would luv to be the taken king
The ‘familiar’ dialogue applies to anyone who played season of the haunted, not the first quote though
I love how inconvenient the dialogue is sometimes. I got some of the vet dialogue and some of the others I didn't.
I think you mean inconsistent
@@MrFryTastic meant*
@@f1fanatic241 "mean" works just fine here.
Dang dude I feel kinda bad. You coulda just turned on Subtitles with backgrounds and it would've done that job for ya.
I’ve been waiting for this
Very cool complication, thank you 👍
0:25 what did he mean by shadow?
i wish i played destiny 1 on my own account.
i started destiny 1 as a hunter on my uncle's xbox account and did everything there. by the time i got my own xbox account it was too late, i was in too deep on his account to simply restart all the way from the beggining on my account. so i started fresh on destiny 2 on my account. i wish i would be able to hear the d1 veteran lines in d2, but i cannot, even though i was present in all those events and beat the game.
I have the same issue with some stuff, it’s a shame
The first two harpy puzzles I didn't even know there was a puzzle, just so happened to kill them in the right order and I was just wondering what the heck they were talking about.
Hearing Calus call us his shadow was the ultimate payoff for having to grind all those hours of Crown of Sorrow.
This just makes me angry. The main quest arc still treats our Guardian as if we actually HAVE done all the things the real Guardian has done since the beginning of D1, even if they haven't.
And since nothing from before Shadowkeep is playable, new players will never EVER get to experience it for themselves. Not to mention literally the past 19 seasons worth of story content that is completely inaccessible.
Bungie do not care about consistency or quality or continuity
every day i will lament being a single triumph from completion of shadow
How Ghost implies that the Last City doesn't have a clue what an arcade is is just mind boggling to me
Question: isn’t there an idle line spoken by Nimbus on the lines of “Hey, you’ve got some cool hardware!” when you’re an Exo? Or am I imagining things.
Toland: *Is mad at you for not taking over the Hidden Swarm or Oryx’s brood after Crota’s End/Kings Fall.*
Guardian: “I killed them so I could get loot, not become a Hive God.”
I wish the care they put into the veteran dialogue would’ve transferred over to the guardian rank. Increasing your guardian rank doesn’t even seem to matter since you get just about nothing out of it but also everyone just resets to rank 6 after every season. It’s like being a “veteran” doesn’t matter, especially since everyone is a “veteran”, including new lights
Looks like the TTK dialogue is teasing next season
I haven’t played opulence but got some of the hidden arena dialog
“Is it itchy?” Quinn, are you TRYING to trigger Exo psychosis? lol
i like the way he say "Shadow Legion" at the beginning :)
Funny how I have never heard the New Light ones, and they are new for me.
My friends thought I was crazy when I was playing with Nezarec Sin asking if they heard that weird dialogue.
"Alas! This day I have no bishes in store for you."
I love the hunter diss from Mara
I didn’t notice the first line. And my Titan is my only Veteran character
I am so confused.... I have gotten half these alt dialog and missed the other half. I stopped playing for 2 years and I guess the game knows which seasons I've missed
hey, just something interesting, but nezerac diolague was working with the enigma. haven't seen anyone else so it so i'll mention it
"Left fist. And your right fist."
BROTHER IM HIGH ASF 💀
I hate I missed out on shadow dialogue if only I was a little more dedicated back then. Same with not connecting my D1 account 😓
Seeing all these extra lines of monologue makes me regret choosing a human as my race
The time stamps make no sense. Also why does this include Shadowkeep dialogue?
Do you know if there's any changes to the new light introduction mission in the tower with the traveler gone?
I started in Splicer, my wife started in Lost. We both got the vet dialog.
So what I got from this is that WE SHOULD'VE BEEN THE NEW TAKEN KING? WE COULD'VE CONTROLLED THE TAKEN?
That’s how it would’ve been had we not followed eris’s plan to kill oryx and let Mara take his throne world to stay alive
I got Veteran dialogue despite no playing opulence, I started in Lost
This makes light fall way better in my opinion
WAIT A MINUTE THE RICHES LINE IS NOT FOR NEW LIGHTS OMG
I honestly didn’t know new light had its own diologue. I thought the shadow lines was normal haha
What happened to the in-game subs?
it really sucks that since ive been playing on pc since release, i gont get the veteran dialogue for the things that require a d1 character despite having played d1 since vanilla. i guess i just have to keep watching these videos for the d1 vet dialouge
Can we get Taken King Dialogue after finishing the reprised raid in D2?
You know, I didn't think they still did veteran dialogue after nuking the old game.
I don't understand caital saying the voice is similar to the nightmares, that confused me so much
Why does it look like the witness is blowing a piece of bubblegum in the thumbnail
I started during the tail end of season of Opulence, did not understand anything from it lol but Calus do be treating me like a Veteran