This guy's reviews are definitely the most worthwhile you can get on RUclips, I've already watched hours of those and other guys are just the talking to talk, while this guy... he knows what he's talking about, and it's the most relevant things for a viewer.
Great decision by Garmin to use an upgraded MIP screen. As beautiful as AMOLED is, MIPS is still the most practical screen to use in a sport oriented watch which is the target group of the Fenix line up.
I have been deliberating on which Garmin to go for, I love tech (although not fully conversant with all) I am a 68 year old guy with COPD (33% lung capacity) I exercise as hard as I can, I can’t constantly run it’s just interval training. On and off road up to 10 miles, I did my first half marathon about 6 weeks ago, no land speed record, but age and condition happy enough. I do 3 gym visits a week also. Primary monitoring HR and VO2, I am in the UK they have their Black Friday deals at the moment the Fenix 7 Pro (47mm) Solar Sapphire was reduced from $1035 To $725 seemed too good to pass up, I admit it’s a far more superior piece of tech that I will ever need or use. But on the plus side, I won’t need to upgrade. Your review was great in helping me decide thank you. Looking to try and dispense with the separate timer for interval training and do it all through the Garmin. Can it be set up for interval with audible and vibrate alerts… once again thanks
Wow, Now I am 100% on Garmin Fenix 7 Pro... I was waiting for the Garmin Fenix 8 (this is it?) with the GF7pro not the largest but with a flashlight! I cant wait!
Can't wait to pick this up for 500 bucks in 3 years. It's not a joke, I seriously can't wait but also can't justify 1k on a watch right now Also great review, I watched Chase the Summit and DC's vids first and still had no idea the MIP display had improved as much as it did. I was atarting to sway to the dark (epix) side, but this will help the Fenix a ton.
Maybe less than 3 years... In 2021 I bought a brand new 945 for 260€ while the retail price was still around 500€. Sometimes you can pick real good second-hand deals only 1 or 2 years after the launch 🤞
@@highseastrader4190 Nah, it's more like I just bought my Fenix 6 when the 7 was released. I don't mind being a generation behind when it means I get all the bug fixes, all the variations have been released and I can get a new watch at 40-50% what it retailed at launch. Especially when it does far more than I'll ever need it too. But I can't say no if I happen upon one at a really good price before I'm done with my 6, some guys out there are constantly trading watches, can't argue with them when it comes to getting one cheap.
@@sfygy32 Better is subjective. I was cross shopping the Fenix 6 with the Instinct 2 Solar at the time. The Fenix was slightly more than I was looking to spend but contained full topo mapping and routing, whereas the instinct had an excellent battery life. The Fenix 6x Pro went on sale for the same price as the Instinct 2 Solar and made the decision for me. The Forerunner line, outside of the 955, is really of no interest to me. They are simply worse in ways that mattered to me at my time of purchase.
The fenix 7x pro sapphire solar is awesome. I've had mine for three weeks now, and coming from a G shock mudmaster, it's a big change up. There's definitely a lot to learn. So I'm going through as many videos as I can. Thank you for an awesome review
@shane031237 Once you have put your stride into the Garmin fenix, I've found it to be really accurate. I walked a thousand counted steps and my watch told me a had stepped 991 steps
I have a Gshock rangeman and never worry about it in the water. I tried an Apple Watch and killed it just doing normal swimming and water park type stuff. Will I be good with a fenix 7 pro?? Thanks
Great review as always, i didn't feel the need for an upgrade from the Fenix 6X to 7X, however after seeing this video of the new 7 Pro Series, I was convinced. I just purchased the the 7X Pro Sapphire solar and i love it. Thanks very much!
When I was running hardcore and doing sub-3 marathons, wrist based heart rate sensors weren’t around yet. Honestly, all the sensors and data really don’t make you a better athlete; just do the work outs. GPS accuracy and battery life are the most important things. What I love about the Fenix series is that case and sapphire glass and full color maps. Add in solar charging and the flashlight and I’m considering the upgrade from a Fenix 6 Pro Sapphire.
Its nice they improved on the MIP colors. I put my Enduro 2 on the second from the highest brightness and i have no display/battery issues. Enduro 2 is still a good purchase but if i had to call it an upgrade, definitely 7xpro. Thanks again 👍🏾
Would you be able to tell me what that after market band is? That orange/gray band is pretty sweet. But I can’t seem to find it. Again, thanks for everything! You and DC are the standard bearers!
Looks to be this one: www.garmin.com/en-US/p/pn/010-13280-02 That's the 22mm version by the way but they have the other sizes too 👍 Thanks for the kind words!
@@DesFit thank you sir! It’s the 22mm that I’m looking for. I know you hear it all the time, but I am being genuine. I watch your videos for a product I’m not even going to buy. You can tell how much work and heart that you put into all of your work. Just wanna let you know it does not go unnoticed.
Just here justifying my purchase of a 7 pro solar sapphire after seeing it discounted to £470 at John Lewis! Hope I don’t miss the Epix standard amoled, this will be my first MIP Watch
@@T3CHKN0to shock everyone here…I actually retuned it! I think MIP sounded great in principle but in the cold, constantly dark north of England I was needing the backlight for any runs between 8am-3pm so the outdoor visibility didn’t deliver. I really want to understand the benefit of MIP but for the same price you are sacrificing so much detail when navigating etc.
@@calcom193 The only real benefit would be if that is what you prefer. I just bought the Enduro 2, but coming from the Fenix 5x Sapphire, I do not think I'll be disappointed. Never once though: Ah, wish my watch was much brighter or clearer. Live in Norway, so no light in winter here either 😅 If you feel a feature will annoy you, get the other. Only you can decide what you like best ☺️
Thank you for this review. Looking to switch to Garmin. Looking at the Fenix 7 Pro Solar, as I want to go into UTMs. But quite pricey in South Africa still. Will check out Black Friday deals or see if the rumours are true of the Fenix 8 release next year, that might push the prices down a bit. Hopefully the ZAR doesn't keep on tanking against USD, EUR and GBP.
Just ordered a fenix 7 pro solar sapphire. It was only the equivalent of 649 usd so I kinda had to. My old garmin instinct is probably close to 5 years now and the battery is getting kinda bad. So time for an upgrade although I'll probably still use it for some workstuff. @Desfit thanks for the always great reviews
Great video!! Can i ask you if you heard about water inside the Garmin Fenix 7 pro? A friend of mine went in the Sea and that happened!! And i'm seriously thinking about It! Thank you for your content
Thank you the video. Can I enter coordinates to navigate me anywhere in the world? For example I've got a trip to the Sahara desert where there is no data connection or Internet can I use the watch to guide to my destination?
So when bicycling do you guys recommend flipping the watch over so that the sensor us up against the inside of your wrist for easier access to your pulse?
Some may have better results with that orientation but most often times people just wear it facing up. I'd just say if you're not getting OK results facing up to try it facing down.
@@DesFit Hello! Please tell me, Enduro 2 have all programs as new Fenix 7x Pro ? And what is now top Enduro 2 or Fenix 7x Pro ? Now I have a choice of what to buy, but I don’t know what to choose
Thank you for this. What are your thoughts on wearing the watch on your ankle for times when you can't have it on your wrist (I'm a massage therapist) or for during some sports like mountain biking?
I only run one day a week, but do a lot of HIIT and CrossFit type workouts. I think the Fenix may be more than I need. Does Garmin have a more affordable model that has the features like Pulse Ox, HRV, Stress, Training readiness, body battery
You mentioned a comparison video between the Fenix 7 Pro and the Epix Pro with a link in the description; I didn’t see it there or as a pinned comment. Thanks-
Like the review. I've been looking for a review that would compare the Fenix7 pro Sapphire with the Enduro2 Saphire, but don't seem to find one. Seem the main differences are the HR sensor Gen4 vs Gen5 and some comments suggest that the Enduro2 has a weaker contrast/not so clear image on the screen. Any thoughts on this?
Have you had problems with wrist-based accuracy on other watches? If so, is the new sensor much better? I had a Fenix 6 and it would lose my HR at about 120bpm and then start to half the reading... Awful. I'm wondering how the new sensors would do with me? I have a whoop 4.0 now, and it seems to be spot on. Thanks for your comments.
I had both, the epix was nice, but for me the pretty screen wasn’t needed. The f7 pro is nice enough with nice colors and contrast and the backlight is much better now. The difference in display between the fenix and epix wasn’t big enough for me to justify keeping the epix. Also, the epix isn’t bike friendly, when you use the watch as a bike computer and put it on your bike! The display wants to turn off, and there’s no always on backlight for the epix. To each their own.
Hello, Can you please confirm if the compass on the new Pro models is also highly sensitive and affected by the movement of the strap? (Was this an issue with the seventh-generation models)
Great review , i can't seem to get an answer for this question, even from Garmin. I want the brightest led light, i would normally go for the fenix 7 pro 47 mm, but if the led is bigger and brighter on the fenix 7x pro then i would get the 51 mm, not sure if it is brighter, it's definitely got a bigger led light screen but that might be just bigger for aesthetics.
I've checked Garmin's UK website and it says the Fenix 7 Pro has a MIP display and the Epix pro has the amoled display where as reviews on RUclips say the opposite.
That's correct, the Epix series uses AMOLED and the Fenix series uses MIP. This video highlights an updated MIP display on the Fenix 7 Pro and the Epix Pro shows the AMOLED display. I'm not sure I've seen reviews that say the opposite.
Apparently they are variable but thats just what I noticed is the outer ones firing up during activities. Likely contributes to battery life savings I would imagine too.
@@DesFit Would love a feature to change that.. Just fire them all up 24/7, beacause my bold guess is that there not that big of a difference from the old sensor to this with everyday use
I'm impressed. Garmin seems to have implemented a lot of useful features (solar, map overlays) that the new MIP G-Shocks are missing. I have just one question: MIP G-Shocks have a very low screen refresh rate, so the stopwatch does only seconds, which is lame. How does the Garmin stopwatch functions on a MIP screen?
nice nice.... how about the new solar panel? is it this time doing any effect? on my 7X it seems the solar panel isn't providing any energy plus even in brigthest sunlight :( that is very disapointing.
@@DesFit that is a pitty .... i wear the most time of my life casio g-shocks and all the solar models doesn't need to be charged. hoped that the new pro model has got an more efficent panel 😕 also en eSIM is missing like the apple watch. that would make it round in total.
May come down to the activities that you do which may risk damaging the watch. Gorilla glass is generally fine if there’s no impacts like let’s say a crash on a bike.
I really need a tactix 7 vs new Fenix 7 Ppro comparison. Specially the display, brightness, visibility in sunlight, brightness with solar and non-solar.
If it’s any help I have had both, and the screen is noticeably clearer with the F7X Pro vs T7 Solar. The contrast is better, but also the brightness levels are better. My unscientific guesstimate is 40% brightness on the F7XP = 60% on T7 Solar. Also, I think the Enduro 2 screen is clearer than T7. However, Auto-Brightness is poor, and hopefully that will be improved in a future firmware update. Hope this helps.
Hey Boomix, I'm planning a more tactical review review of the 7Pro Sapp Solar. I have some interesting feedback more suited to my mil/L.E brothers and sisters out there.
I noticed this too. Trying out a fenix 7s and I upgraded from a forerunner 45. Dude... the forerunner 45 is wayyyy more responsive and quick from pressing buttons. No excuse for a watch that costs that much to not be as quick as one thats $700 less lol
@@rosedcurt2865 Yeah, when on a run activity and you have a route loaded, it takes literally a whole second for the watch to respond when cycling through the screens. Not good enough. I don’t see it improving, each software update adds new features which makes the software run more slowly.
The 42mm Pro doesn't have an orange button top right - Does this mean that it has different funcionality than the standard size with the orange button? If that has any potential ECG function on the standard watch will that be missing on the 42mm?
@@DesFit Thanks, you are very helpful. I was on my way to buy the regular 7s sapphire solar, but at this point i will go for the pro instead. Too bad the Black one is the only choice for titanium (7 grams difference in terms of weight) instead of the the 4 options. I really like the dark bronze one.
Which has more accurate optical HR: Forerunner 965 vs Fenix 7 Pro? ie. does the Gen 5 sensor compensate for the increased weight of the Fenix 7 Pro vs Forerunner 965?
great review, as always, Des. Too bad there isn't option without solar in 7X ranges, regular or Pro. as far as I can tell, solar adds just a little bit more with decent increase in price. Keep up with the great work Des!
Yeah, and decreases screen visibility by absorbing 7% of the passing ambient light... Can't stand it even on my Fenix 6x pro solar (where it actually absorbs 10% if I remember correctly, but there is no sapphire or touch screen digitizer to absorb enemy more ad on the Fenix 7) Please Garmin, give us back a NON solar Fenix in 51mm....... There's people out here wanting this
@@fendermon if you mean in comparison with 7 solar or sapphire solar... My point exactly. And the 6 base (with backlight off...) Was even a bit better since it has no touchscreen digitizer on the screen. Now, I do understand that going back to no touchscreen would make no sense, but at least a plain gorilla glass version... Camon!
@@frankysour I agree fully. I played with a 7x Saphire solar in the store and was shocked how poor it looked. Maybe it's much better in the sun...but I wouldn't know. -Cheers
hi, great content as usuall 👍👍✅✅; In my opinion a lot of people will grabb discounted 7series without pro. but if more options exist that better for everyone with personal chooses.
I have a 7x sapphire solar and a descent g1 solar. On the 7x the solar is a joke. On the g1 I actually manage to charge the watch completely from a very low state. Have you tested the solar on the 7 pro?
Solar charging capabilities are the same from the Fenix 7 Pro to the Fenix 7. Reasons for the difference in charging capabilities to the G1 include a display that requires more power on the Fenix 7 as well as the surface area for solar charging being much larger on the G1.
The full, in-depth comparison of the Epix Pro vs the Fenix 7 Pro is here! 👉 ruclips.net/video/ypiQybI64RA/видео.html
Hi! What is your wrist size?
This guy's reviews are definitely the most worthwhile you can get on RUclips, I've already watched hours of those and other guys are just the talking to talk, while this guy... he knows what he's talking about, and it's the most relevant things for a viewer.
Glad to hear that the information is helpful 👍
Great decision by Garmin to use an upgraded MIP screen. As beautiful as AMOLED is, MIPS is still the most practical screen to use in a sport oriented watch which is the target group of the Fenix line up.
Agreed. I hope they keep it for at least some of the Forerunner models too.
I have been deliberating on which Garmin to go for, I love tech (although not fully conversant with all) I am a 68 year old guy with COPD (33% lung capacity) I exercise as hard as I can, I can’t constantly run it’s just interval training. On and off road up to 10 miles, I did my first half marathon about 6 weeks ago, no land speed record, but age and condition happy enough. I do 3 gym visits a week also. Primary monitoring HR and VO2, I am in the UK they have their Black Friday deals at the moment the Fenix 7 Pro (47mm) Solar Sapphire was reduced from $1035 To $725 seemed too good to pass up, I admit it’s a far more superior piece of tech that I will ever need or use. But on the plus side, I won’t need to upgrade. Your review was great in helping me decide thank you. Looking to try and dispense with the separate timer for interval training and do it all through the Garmin. Can it be set up for interval with audible and vibrate alerts… once again thanks
i feel the same. thank you Des
Thanks for all the time you put into these real time user tests and reviews.
You’re welcome Chad and thank you for the super thanks!! 🙌
His endurance score is over 9,000!
Goku is amazing isn't he.
😂😂😂
Shadap!!! I just got my knees replaced so mine is only 3000 and change 😅
Animal 😊🎉
For some reason I'm really excited about the new MIPS display. I may go back to the Fenix from an Epix now.
Me too. It looks good!
Wow, Now I am 100% on Garmin Fenix 7 Pro... I was waiting for the Garmin Fenix 8 (this is it?) with the GF7pro not the largest but with a flashlight! I cant wait!
Just picked up a new 7x pro for $740! Still have my tactix 7 but selling that bad boy! Great review as always!
Can't wait to pick this up for 500 bucks in 3 years.
It's not a joke, I seriously can't wait but also can't justify 1k on a watch right now
Also great review, I watched Chase the Summit and DC's vids first and still had no idea the MIP display had improved as much as it did. I was atarting to sway to the dark (epix) side, but this will help the Fenix a ton.
Maybe less than 3 years...
In 2021 I bought a brand new 945 for 260€ while the retail price was still around 500€. Sometimes you can pick real good second-hand deals only 1 or 2 years after the launch 🤞
@@highseastrader4190 Nah, it's more like I just bought my Fenix 6 when the 7 was released. I don't mind being a generation behind when it means I get all the bug fixes, all the variations have been released and I can get a new watch at 40-50% what it retailed at launch. Especially when it does far more than I'll ever need it too.
But I can't say no if I happen upon one at a really good price before I'm done with my 6, some guys out there are constantly trading watches, can't argue with them when it comes to getting one cheap.
@@AHungryHunky good strategy 👌🏻
@@AHungryHunky forerunner 265 or 255 even is better AND cheaper than fenix 6
@@sfygy32 Better is subjective. I was cross shopping the Fenix 6 with the Instinct 2 Solar at the time. The Fenix was slightly more than I was looking to spend but contained full topo mapping and routing, whereas the instinct had an excellent battery life. The Fenix 6x Pro went on sale for the same price as the Instinct 2 Solar and made the decision for me. The Forerunner line, outside of the 955, is really of no interest to me. They are simply worse in ways that mattered to me at my time of purchase.
watching this as 29/08 after the F8 release. 7 pro sapphire solar price dropped considerable!
i ordered a Fenix 42mm solar 7s pro for 2/3 price compared to 8. I think I made a good decision especially because no solar version from it.
Thanks Des, Given your extensive experience and exposure to these Garmin models, how would you rate your 'Enduro 2' among this ever expanding group?
The fenix 7x pro sapphire solar is awesome. I've had mine for three weeks now, and coming from a G shock mudmaster, it's a big change up. There's definitely a lot to learn. So I'm going through as many videos as I can. Thank you for an awesome review
Is the watch accurate with daily steps and distance? I currently have the Apple Ultra and it does well, but I’d like to know about the fenix 7
@shane031237 Once you have put your stride into the Garmin fenix, I've found it to be really accurate. I walked a thousand counted steps and my watch told me a had stepped 991 steps
I have a Gshock rangeman and never worry about it in the water. I tried an Apple Watch and killed it just doing normal swimming and water park type stuff. Will I be good with a fenix 7 pro?? Thanks
Great review as always, i didn't feel the need for an upgrade from the Fenix 6X to 7X, however after seeing this video of the new 7 Pro Series, I was convinced. I just purchased the the 7X Pro Sapphire solar and i love it. Thanks very much!
Thanks and glad you're enjoying your watch!
Thanks!
Thank you!! 🙌
When I was running hardcore and doing sub-3 marathons, wrist based heart rate sensors weren’t around yet. Honestly, all the sensors and data really don’t make you a better athlete; just do the work outs. GPS accuracy and battery life are the most important things. What I love about the Fenix series is that case and sapphire glass and full color maps. Add in solar charging and the flashlight and I’m considering the upgrade from a Fenix 6 Pro Sapphire.
Well, Sounds like now you have what you wanted.
just what i need ~ thank you for such a thorough review!
Very welcome!
Have Fenix 7 Solar... will jump this version and upgrade when Fenix 8 comes out
Hi, so is the backlight brighter or the display itself?😀
that is my question too. Because if only the backlight than I don't really care.
Can you do a more deep dive into the HR monitoring, with comparison to the old fenix 7 model?
i realized that Garmin is king of the Hill. they have no competition . 🎉🎉 love my Enduro 2 .
great video… cannot wait to see that screen in person
Thanks!
Would love to see a comparison between the Pro and non pro versions
Lamp vs no lamp
Do the new larger sensors allow for reading through tattoos?
Apparently not so effectively.
Excellent review as always. Would be good if you could review for swimming with the HR etc I have definitely noticed the better GPS signals for golf!
Its nice they improved on the MIP colors. I put my Enduro 2 on the second from the highest brightness and i have no display/battery issues. Enduro 2 is still a good purchase but if i had to call it an upgrade, definitely 7xpro. Thanks again 👍🏾
Is the Enduro 2 MIPS display an older or inferior display to the one in the newer Fenix 7 Pro?
excellent review as always. can you post a vid comparing it to the enduro 2?
yes pls do
Still on my 3HR. Thinking about upgrading to this later this year.
Would you be able to tell me what that after market band is? That orange/gray band is pretty sweet. But I can’t seem to find it. Again, thanks for everything! You and DC are the standard bearers!
Looks to be this one: www.garmin.com/en-US/p/pn/010-13280-02 That's the 22mm version by the way but they have the other sizes too 👍 Thanks for the kind words!
@@DesFit thank you sir! It’s the 22mm that I’m looking for. I know you hear it all the time, but I am being genuine. I watch your videos for a product I’m not even going to buy. You can tell how much work and heart that you put into all of your work. Just wanna let you know it does not go unnoticed.
Thanks so much!!
Great vid, as always. Do you know when the new software features will be coming to the Fenix 7 line?
No exact date but in the past it’s usually a few months or so
Will these features be coming to the tactics seven also?
Just here justifying my purchase of a 7 pro solar sapphire after seeing it discounted to £470 at John Lewis! Hope I don’t miss the Epix standard amoled, this will be my first MIP Watch
Doing the same thing 😅 Seemed like an extremely good deal. What are your thoughts now?
@@T3CHKN0to shock everyone here…I actually retuned it! I think MIP sounded great in principle but in the cold, constantly dark north of England I was needing the backlight for any runs between 8am-3pm so the outdoor visibility didn’t deliver. I really want to understand the benefit of MIP but for the same price you are sacrificing so much detail when navigating etc.
@@calcom193 The only real benefit would be if that is what you prefer. I just bought the Enduro 2, but coming from the Fenix 5x Sapphire, I do not think I'll be disappointed. Never once though: Ah, wish my watch was much brighter or clearer. Live in Norway, so no light in winter here either 😅 If you feel a feature will annoy you, get the other. Only you can decide what you like best ☺️
How is the sleep tracking at recording sleep cycles? My fenix 7 rarely captures deep sleep, compared to my Whoop, which seems to do a much better job.
Same
Sleep Tracking ist terrible.
I have to use my Fenix 7 paired with Oura Ring.
It looks like the Sleep tracking is not improved.
Nice review Des! Curious, was there any indication that the software features will be available later on the 265 or the 965?
Only confirmation for Fenix 7 and Epix but I’ll definitely let you know if I hear anything. Thanks Victor!
@@DesFit Thanks for the clarification!
I have Fenix 7 standard and i love my watch! 😊💪 Nice video sir!
Great video as always do you think that the fenix 7x will have this widget with the forecast on-the- maps soon??
Thanks a lot 😊
No word on timing but they usually push updates within a few months or so. Thanks!
My 6 pro has just got the blue triangle of death… 😢 not sure if I want to risk it again but what a watch when it works.
Sold my 7x pro to the 47mm ones coz the 7x was quite heavy for daily
Thanks for this video it was super informative!
Happy to help!
Thank you Des. That's a really helpful video, especially the information about the upgraded display.
Glad to help. Thanks!
Interested in how well the new sensor supports SPO2 measurements. I'm running a Fenix 5 and looking to upgrade.
Thank you for this review. Looking to switch to Garmin. Looking at the Fenix 7 Pro Solar, as I want to go into UTMs. But quite pricey in South Africa still. Will check out Black Friday deals or see if the rumours are true of the Fenix 8 release next year, that might push the prices down a bit. Hopefully the ZAR doesn't keep on tanking against USD, EUR and GBP.
Just ordered a fenix 7 pro solar sapphire. It was only the equivalent of 649 usd so I kinda had to. My old garmin instinct is probably close to 5 years now and the battery is getting kinda bad. So time for an upgrade although I'll probably still use it for some workstuff.
@Desfit thanks for the always great reviews
Great video!!
Can i ask you if you heard about water inside the Garmin Fenix 7 pro?
A friend of mine went in the Sea and that happened!!
And i'm seriously thinking about It!
Thank you for your content
Great review. Thank you😀
Glad it was useful, thanks!
Thank you the video. Can I enter coordinates to navigate me anywhere in the world? For example I've got a trip to the Sahara desert where there is no data connection or Internet can I use the watch to guide to my destination?
So when bicycling do you guys recommend flipping the watch over so that the sensor us up against the inside of your wrist for easier access to your pulse?
Some may have better results with that orientation but most often times people just wear it facing up. I'd just say if you're not getting OK results facing up to try it facing down.
@@DesFit I was just wondering. I've ordered the chest strap so I suppose that's all I need for accuracy
@Jonasegway that’s the way to go for the best accuracy 👍
@@DesFit got it! Thanks
Amazing review
Thanks!
Great review as always :) Is there a difference in screen when not using backlight or is it the same as F7?
Not a huge difference from what I can tell. Thanks!
@@DesFit Hello! Please tell me, Enduro 2 have all programs as new Fenix 7x Pro ?
And what is now top Enduro 2 or Fenix 7x Pro ?
Now I have a choice of what to buy, but I don’t know what to choose
Hello is a training load only for running or all sports?
Training load is based on heart rate, so for all sports
Thank you for this. What are your thoughts on wearing the watch on your ankle for times when you can't have it on your wrist (I'm a massage therapist) or for during some sports like mountain biking?
I only run one day a week, but do a lot of HIIT and CrossFit type workouts. I think the Fenix may be more than I need. Does Garmin have a more affordable model that has the features like Pulse Ox, HRV, Stress, Training readiness, body battery
I have a Venu 2 … also look at venu 2 plus…
@@lewislee150 thanks. I caught the Garmin Epix on a good sale, so I snagged that one. Probably way more than I need.
Remind yourself the data is forgettable in the gym without a chest strap
You mentioned a comparison video between the Fenix 7 Pro and the Epix Pro with a link in the description; I didn’t see it there or as a pinned comment. Thanks-
Sorry, running a little behind...should be up soon!
In his other video He chose the Epix pro over the Fenix 7pro he said because of the brighter screen, he became a custom to amongst other things
Like the review. I've been looking for a review that would compare the Fenix7 pro Sapphire with the Enduro2 Saphire, but don't seem to find one. Seem the main differences are the HR sensor Gen4 vs Gen5 and some comments suggest that the Enduro2 has a weaker contrast/not so clear image on the screen. Any thoughts on this?
Have you had problems with wrist-based accuracy on other watches? If so, is the new sensor much better? I had a Fenix 6 and it would lose my HR at about 120bpm and then start to half the reading... Awful. I'm wondering how the new sensors would do with me? I have a whoop 4.0 now, and it seems to be spot on. Thanks for your comments.
Very informative love your reviews.
Thanks Chris!
Since Fenix 7 PRO has a new brighter display, how noticeable is the difference when compared to the Epix Pro? Would you still choose the Epix?
I had both, the epix was nice, but for me the pretty screen wasn’t needed. The f7 pro is nice enough with nice colors and contrast and the backlight is much better now. The difference in display between the fenix and epix wasn’t big enough for me to justify keeping the epix. Also, the epix isn’t bike friendly, when you use the watch as a bike computer and put it on your bike! The display wants to turn off, and there’s no always on backlight for the epix. To each their own.
Hello, Can you please confirm if the compass on the new Pro models is also highly sensitive and affected by the movement of the strap? (Was this an issue with the seventh-generation models)
Excellent Video. Is there a link to where you compare the Fenix 7 and the Epix ?
Is it the screen much brighter and how much brighter?
I just bought the Fenix 7 sapphire solar...so pissed off.....let's at least hope that the sw will come to the fenix 7 too....
Are the weather overlays available when out in the backcountry?
Awesome video! Thank you!
You’re welcome and thanks!
Great review , i can't seem to get an answer for this question, even from Garmin. I want the brightest led light, i would normally go for the fenix 7 pro 47 mm, but if the led is bigger and brighter on the fenix 7x pro then i would get the 51 mm, not sure if it is brighter, it's definitely got a bigger led light screen but that might be just bigger for aesthetics.
Do we know when the previous Fenix 7 will receive that update for the extra metrics introduced? Your videos are amazing btw
Will there be all black version of the fenix 7 pro? I don’t really like the look of carbon gray
I've checked Garmin's UK website and it says the Fenix 7 Pro has a MIP display and the Epix pro has the amoled display where as reviews on RUclips say the opposite.
That's correct, the Epix series uses AMOLED and the Fenix series uses MIP. This video highlights an updated MIP display on the Fenix 7 Pro and the Epix Pro shows the AMOLED display. I'm not sure I've seen reviews that say the opposite.
I wonder what material is more scratch resistant stainless steel vs. titanium, and black vs. silver.
In general, stainless steel but both can be scratched
Are all LEDS on the sensor only activated during activities?
Apparently they are variable but thats just what I noticed is the outer ones firing up during activities. Likely contributes to battery life savings I would imagine too.
@@DesFit Would love a feature to change that.. Just fire them all up 24/7, beacause my bold guess is that there not that big of a difference from the old sensor to this with everyday use
I just bought the Fenix 7 saffire black duck titanium
I'm impressed. Garmin seems to have implemented a lot of useful features (solar, map overlays) that the new MIP G-Shocks are missing. I have just one question: MIP G-Shocks have a very low screen refresh rate, so the stopwatch does only seconds, which is lame. How does the Garmin stopwatch functions on a MIP screen?
How does the pro compare to the Suunto vertical solar?
Does the USB C cable work in the Enduro 2 or Fenix 7x? Thanks in advance 🤙🏽
Yup, same standard Garmin charging port
nice nice.... how about the new solar panel? is it this time doing any effect? on my 7X it seems the solar panel isn't providing any energy plus even in brigthest sunlight :( that is very disapointing.
Solar charging capabilities are the same from the Fenix 7 Pro to the Fenix 7 where it delays discharge but it's not meant to recharge the device.
@@DesFit that is a pitty .... i wear the most time of my life casio g-shocks and all the solar models doesn't need to be charged. hoped that the new pro model has got an more efficent panel 😕
also en eSIM is missing like the apple watch. that would make it round in total.
Those G Shocks have a much lower power display than the full color touchscreen display on the Fenix 7s which is a reason for the difference
@@DesFit thaht is right, but they also had a model with GPS an stuff. that also worked only by solar power ;) so they could if they want to. :D
That’s why they have the Instinct series where those use more similar displays to the G Shocks and can actually charge.
Awesome video 🤘🏼
Thanks!
Question for you, is it worth getting the sapphire version or is the gorilla glass strong enough?
May come down to the activities that you do which may risk damaging the watch. Gorilla glass is generally fine if there’s no impacts like let’s say a crash on a bike.
I really need a tactix 7 vs new Fenix 7 Ppro comparison. Specially the display, brightness, visibility in sunlight, brightness with solar and non-solar.
If it’s any help I have had both, and the screen is noticeably clearer with the F7X Pro vs T7 Solar. The contrast is better, but also the brightness levels are better. My unscientific guesstimate is 40% brightness on the F7XP = 60% on T7 Solar.
Also, I think the Enduro 2 screen is clearer than T7.
However, Auto-Brightness is poor, and hopefully that will be improved in a future firmware update. Hope this helps.
Hey Boomix, I'm planning a more tactical review review of the 7Pro Sapp Solar. I have some interesting feedback more suited to my mil/L.E brothers and sisters out there.
Is the UI any faster / more responsive than the standard 7? My 7S feels a bit laggy compared to my friend’s Forerunner 255 which costs way less
I noticed this too. Trying out a fenix 7s and I upgraded from a forerunner 45. Dude... the forerunner 45 is wayyyy more responsive and quick from pressing buttons. No excuse for a watch that costs that much to not be as quick as one thats $700 less lol
@@rosedcurt2865 Yeah, when on a run activity and you have a route loaded, it takes literally a whole second for the watch to respond when cycling through the screens. Not good enough. I don’t see it improving, each software update adds new features which makes the software run more slowly.
What about Fenix 7x Pro new watchfaces. Will they be avaliable on fenix 7x?
What would you recommend the Fenix Pro or Tactix 7 Pro?
I’m looking for a durable Garmin watch capable of military use that is also good for training especially running? What’s the best watch for me?
@@Tmacademia Thank man looks like an awesome watch
In garmin site has no titanium band options orange display not bad but infra red and night vision green display will be good
The 42mm Pro doesn't have an orange button top right - Does this mean that it has different funcionality than the standard size with the orange button? If that has any potential ECG function on the standard watch will that be missing on the 42mm?
Would you be able to wear the Fenix 7 Pro whilst doing boxing, bag work, would it not become unstable on your wrist when hitting pads or the bag?
i would not keep it on
Is 7 pro screen as good as 6 pro in terms of contrast?
Does it have gallery for photos or dosuments?
Ara all The 7s pro solar sapphire in titanium or just the black one?
Just the black one, the soft gold pro sapphire has a stainless steel bezel.
@@DesFit Thanks, you are very helpful. I was on my way to buy the regular 7s sapphire solar, but at this point i will go for the pro instead. Too bad the Black one is the only choice for titanium (7 grams difference in terms of weight) instead of the the 4 options. I really like the dark bronze one.
Which has more accurate optical HR: Forerunner 965 vs Fenix 7 Pro?
ie. does the Gen 5 sensor compensate for the increased weight of the Fenix 7 Pro vs Forerunner 965?
Would have to do further side by side testing but possibly a slight edge to the 7 Pro
Can this watch be used for ESports?
What features can i utilise?
So is the screen on the 7 PRO now better than the 7x pro? or are they now just the same?
The pro models have the updated MIP display, regardless of size
garmin nailed it with this new sensor. I wish i have this🙄
Which one is better this or the Garmin epix Pro (Gen 2) ?
hey bro is that watch garmin fenix 7 pro compatible with all ios devices thanks
Does this has ECG feature ?
It appears to have the hardware but ECG functionality requires regulatory
great review, as always, Des. Too bad there isn't option without solar in 7X ranges, regular or Pro. as far as I can tell, solar adds just a little bit more with decent increase in price. Keep up with the great work Des!
Yeah, and decreases screen visibility by absorbing 7% of the passing ambient light... Can't stand it even on my Fenix 6x pro solar (where it actually absorbs 10% if I remember correctly, but there is no sapphire or touch screen digitizer to absorb enemy more ad on the Fenix 7)
Please Garmin, give us back a NON solar Fenix in 51mm....... There's people out here wanting this
@@frankysour The base model 7 and 7s screen is a joy to look at in comparison.
@@fendermon if you mean in comparison with 7 solar or sapphire solar... My point exactly. And the 6 base (with backlight off...) Was even a bit better since it has no touchscreen digitizer on the screen. Now, I do understand that going back to no touchscreen would make no sense, but at least a plain gorilla glass version... Camon!
@@frankysour I agree fully. I played with a 7x Saphire solar in the store and was shocked how poor it looked. Maybe it's much better in the sun...but I wouldn't know. -Cheers
Is this a touch screen and how fluid is it?
Yup it's a touchscreen. You can see how it works in my original Fenix 7 video (it works exactly the same): ruclips.net/video/3620mR7nZL8/видео.html
hi, great content as usuall 👍👍✅✅; In my opinion a lot of people will grabb discounted 7series without pro. but if more options exist that better for everyone with personal chooses.
what is the accuracy of the unit was in SatIQ mode? is it less than 1m?
Consumer satellite accuracy is around 3 meters regardless of manufacturer
Where to buy? I am considering Fenix 7 pro solar sapphire 7x
I have a 7x sapphire solar and a descent g1 solar. On the 7x the solar is a joke. On the g1 I actually manage to charge the watch completely from a very low state. Have you tested the solar on the 7 pro?
Solar charging capabilities are the same from the Fenix 7 Pro to the Fenix 7. Reasons for the difference in charging capabilities to the G1 include a display that requires more power on the Fenix 7 as well as the surface area for solar charging being much larger on the G1.
Waiting for ecg/ekg on a fenix