For me the most fun part of Classic BNS is old gathering and crafing sistem, and then play market, back when crafting was relevant, even with bots spawning on top of the resourses, it sitll was fun.
Classic B&S would be amazing, i myself been thinking about how complex the game has become with gear and boss mechanics. Realrift Supply Chain is an example of what the game should be, simple mechanics but fun overall. Also the pace felt a lot better. But thats just IMO.
Glad to see new bns video, i was dreaming about classic bns some years now lol :D hope evil do us harm and keroppi also give us some videos on this, you have always been holy trinity when it comes to my bns videos holy trinity lol. best wishes to you :)
No thx because I would have to bid on the blight fangs and poh perfumes all over again! Took me forever to get enough of those because for weapon upgrades :(
At this point I'd like them to finish UE4 first. A lot of the OLD content, they didn't even bother to transfer the animations across or even bug test. Rolled a character to play with a friend and half the "story line" stuff isn't even animated anymore. They just stand there like a wooden doll and say their lines.
@@HMNNO That would, just that UE4 version has a long way to go to be "feature complete" and I don't mean in game content. Currently the Anti-aliasing pipeline used by the game is entirely NOVEL and does not utilize either NVIDIA or AMD's internal hardware solutions.. which is odd considering that those pipelines that are compatible with AMD and NVIDIA are built into UE4 itself so they had to break that. You can try it yourself. Set the AA override in your AMD or NVIDIA software and the game just ignores it. I've developed with UE4. I could spend a few days and import the game assets and have fully standard AA, AI (anti-isotropic), and shader support. No "game" but I could load up the levels, textures, and the model assets and animations (presuming they didn't do something strange there) and WASD around. UE4 comes pre-loaded with a ton of features. Nearly all of them were gutted and replaced with half-finished stuff by Bloodlust. I've absolutely never seen anything like it in the "modern" game era utilizing an engine like UE4 or Unity or even Crytek.
@@meatybtz currently I haven’t done any old stuff besides some dungeons. The earlier storyline I haven’t done yet so I believe you but since I’m only doing end game stuff like dungeons and stuff, I haven’t seen huge glitches that really bothered me. I’m glad for the stuttering that is gone and that I can do dungeons and raids now. Im not sure how custom their code was in ue3 and having to custom fit more in ue4 made it more janky. I know that Kr mushin tower is fixed and we should be getting that so I’m hoping they will fix more stuff. I was just thinking if they port classic to ue4, it would make sense to polish the starting areas and killing 2 birds with one stone.
@@HMNNO I agree. My shrewd look at the UE4 implementation comes from knowing it myself. I can't help but see things others would miss. Overall it is am improvement, but Bloodlust did the porting,not NCSoft. So it's on them for the strange choices, rather than NCSoft.
Mah boy Jarke, the idea is good, u know the nostalgia and the UE4 areas and all but NC$oft is gonna make it p2w af and we f2p dont want to struggle doing dailies for a chance of getting 100 gold on a rng box just like in the old days. Great vid as always ;)
i think they made things complex to make new reasons for people to pay in game in the end it's bussiness they cant release content 24\7 to upgrade the specific simple gear such as weapon they need more stuff to ugprade without releasing a content such as psyche
I would actually love a return to level cap 45 or 50, but maybe keeping the new classes, or at least the third specs, because I'm finding some of the new options, like lightning force master, really fun to play and really nice aestethically. I would not mind returning to UE 3 for that, and it would be nice to have the less p2w system there was back then, with crafting actually being useful from the beginning of the game. I also really liked having the evolving gear from the beginning and, most of all, the chance to decide how to edit every single skill to fit my playstyle. I also really miss when people were running the e. fleet supply chain and the other pirate raid content, when it was easy to make parties to take down the bosses and do your dailies even in the middle of the night. I did not mind when the soulstone plains and grand square harvest were also somewhat accessible even with low dps. The content was still ok at that point I think.
Tbh i think ncsoft should pick an update on blade & soul where many people were happy with and just put that in classic. Like lineage 2 many people play the old interlude update becuse they thought it was the best in terms of content and gameplay. Maybe for blade and soul that would be the supply chain update or silverfrost. I would love to play both level 45 stuff and silverfrost in bns too so.
Maybe they shoud do UE5 to the live server and implement the old UE3 but remastered with same graphics and stable with some PvP content but not PTW and some cosmetics aswell
are you ppl serious, how long have you known Ncsoft. Do you really beleive for 1 nanosecond that Nc is going to miss this golden opportunity to milk the hype (just like they did with Aion classic), do you really think they will not put cash grab rng boxes. How long till they make yet another shietshow p2w clownfiesta copy/paste of the original.......2-3 months? Stop lying to yourselfs.
My guess it will be heavily pvp based to moonwater plains. Probably unfinished content that decided to wrap up in UE4 when redoing the areas, but now that the main game is close to shutdown let's do that final milking to the playerbase lol
They let people go so far 60 hm39, you never hit that lv and gear. They need stop power lving and gearing. So new players able to catch up a bit. Or just wipe the server ;)
For those asking why tho. It would be like how it started, more complex. Wether is with Ncsoft or not would be nice, but it could also come by again and again the same progress. I only would wish it stayed that way when things were easier and people talk you back cuz rn they are like stones standing in the server. I hope they can make it for the better instead for the worst.
Its prolly gonna happen for a nice cash grab, but Classic will be just as bad when it comes to gear and p2w after a couple of updates so no point to start again imho.
For me it was the awakening patch that killed the game - that was when they reworked my dark warlock in to a some kind of abomination that was not fun to play anymore. Anything that is up to that point - is good for me, but anything past it - and i have 0 interest.
BnS Classic is big no for me for few reasons: 1. NCSoft will not miss oportunity to implement som p2w bs from the beginning. 2. I still remember how grindy was 24-man instances and how long it took me to collect all materials and accesories to progress my gear. I did it on almost all available classes and I really don't want to do it again. 3. Main reason why I left BnS after four months was forced PvP. Faction quests in Misty Woods was only way how to progress my gear further because of Soulstones. And I still remember how frustrated it was and how players was toxic already in that days. (When I returned back around a year later PvE and PvP gear has separated progress already. So I suppose that forced PvP wasn't cup of tea for many players.) 4. Watching story for 20th time and making just another character for slow pace progression is something that I really don't want to do anymore. 5. This is only my opinion, but I'm sure that classic server will be almost empty after few months. (Many ppl will leave for the same reason why they left 4 years ago and nostalgic feeling can't save that.) So time and money investment will be risky.
Best bns classic would be on UE4, and in not the hands of NCsoft, you know what i mean wink wink. Cause lets be honest, a classic server with ncsoft it will end up in the same shit all over again. And im a launch player that played over more tha 3 years non stop.
It would be great idea but I would not even bother if it was limitied to 45 cap/moonwater. I mean the only content you could do back then was bloodshade harbor/fleet and and wyrm, and wyrm itself is/was TRASH for loot, so basicaly no point in killing it besides saying "hey, we gathered 50 people and spent half and hour killing it for 1 silver worth of loot". With the knowellage we have now it would take max 3 weeks to get max gear and that's about it. I think if they really did classic servers they should cap it around VT so pleople would at least have something to do for a year or two. BnS without raids is not BnS imo.
why the hell would anyone wanna play classic BnS? dont get me wrong if you enjoy it great. im just asking why would you wanna play that? it will just slowly become P2W all over again.
This aged like fine Wine 🍷with the announcement of classic coming soon
The old combat is what I would love where each skill had different paths it was amazing fire light bm
Two years later it's finally happening.
Hype for BNS Classic... keep it up, and keep bump BNS Classic handsome man! 😁😁
For me the most fun part of Classic BNS is old gathering and crafing sistem, and then play market, back when crafting was relevant, even with bots spawning on top of the resourses, it sitll was fun.
Classic B&S would be amazing, i myself been thinking about how complex the game has become with gear and boss mechanics. Realrift Supply Chain is an example of what the game should be, simple mechanics but fun overall. Also the pace felt a lot better. But thats just IMO.
Glad to see new bns video, i was dreaming about classic bns some years now lol :D hope evil do us harm and keroppi also give us some videos on this, you have always been holy trinity when it comes to my bns videos holy trinity lol. best wishes to you :)
literally a year since this video was posted and no classic server in sight yet Dx
No thx because I would have to bid on the blight fangs and poh perfumes all over again! Took me forever to get enough of those because for weapon upgrades :(
At this point I'd like them to finish UE4 first. A lot of the OLD content, they didn't even bother to transfer the animations across or even bug test. Rolled a character to play with a friend and half the "story line" stuff isn't even animated anymore. They just stand there like a wooden doll and say their lines.
I hope they will release classic under ue4 and fix the old stuff, kill 2 birds with one stone
@@HMNNO That would, just that UE4 version has a long way to go to be "feature complete" and I don't mean in game content. Currently the Anti-aliasing pipeline used by the game is entirely NOVEL and does not utilize either NVIDIA or AMD's internal hardware solutions.. which is odd considering that those pipelines that are compatible with AMD and NVIDIA are built into UE4 itself so they had to break that. You can try it yourself. Set the AA override in your AMD or NVIDIA software and the game just ignores it. I've developed with UE4. I could spend a few days and import the game assets and have fully standard AA, AI (anti-isotropic), and shader support. No "game" but I could load up the levels, textures, and the model assets and animations (presuming they didn't do something strange there) and WASD around. UE4 comes pre-loaded with a ton of features. Nearly all of them were gutted and replaced with half-finished stuff by Bloodlust. I've absolutely never seen anything like it in the "modern" game era utilizing an engine like UE4 or Unity or even Crytek.
@@meatybtz currently I haven’t done any old stuff besides some dungeons. The earlier storyline I haven’t done yet so I believe you but since I’m only doing end game stuff like dungeons and stuff, I haven’t seen huge glitches that really bothered me. I’m glad for the stuttering that is gone and that I can do dungeons and raids now.
Im not sure how custom their code was in ue3 and having to custom fit more in ue4 made it more janky.
I know that Kr mushin tower is fixed and we should be getting that so I’m hoping they will fix more stuff. I was just thinking if they port classic to ue4, it would make sense to polish the starting areas and killing 2 birds with one stone.
@@HMNNO I agree. My shrewd look at the UE4 implementation comes from knowing it myself. I can't help but see things others would miss. Overall it is am improvement, but Bloodlust did the porting,not NCSoft.
So it's on them for the strange choices, rather than NCSoft.
Mah boy Jarke, the idea is good, u know the nostalgia and the UE4 areas and all but NC$oft is gonna make it p2w af and we f2p dont want to struggle doing dailies for a chance of getting 100 gold on a rng box just like in the old days. Great vid as always ;)
I really started liking bns when raids came out, I personally thought BT was the height of bns
Nice bns is ❤️
I want that spider dungeon be viable for farming that crafting recipe
Lol that moonwater one that I believe let you craft gems I remember it went for like 100s of gold people were farming like crazy
i think they made things complex to make new reasons for people to pay in game in the end it's bussiness they cant release content 24\7 to upgrade the specific simple gear such as weapon they need more stuff to ugprade without releasing a content such as psyche
I would love to play pvp in classic
I would actually love a return to level cap 45 or 50, but maybe keeping the new classes, or at least the third specs, because I'm finding some of the new options, like lightning force master, really fun to play and really nice aestethically.
I would not mind returning to UE 3 for that, and it would be nice to have the less p2w system there was back then, with crafting actually being useful from the beginning of the game. I also really liked having the evolving gear from the beginning and, most of all, the chance to decide how to edit every single skill to fit my playstyle.
I also really miss when people were running the e. fleet supply chain and the other pirate raid content, when it was easy to make parties to take down the bosses and do your dailies even in the middle of the night. I did not mind when the soulstone plains and grand square harvest were also somewhat accessible even with low dps. The content was still ok at that point I think.
Okay but why tho?
Tbh i think ncsoft should pick an update on blade & soul where many people were happy with and just put that in classic. Like lineage 2 many people play the old interlude update becuse they thought it was the best in terms of content and gameplay. Maybe for blade and soul that would be the supply chain update or silverfrost. I would love to play both level 45 stuff and silverfrost in bns too so.
UE4 with 45 content yes please
UE3 when? 😆
Maybe they shoud do UE5 to the live server and implement the old UE3 but remastered with same graphics and stable with some PvP content but not PTW and some cosmetics aswell
are you ppl serious, how long have you known Ncsoft. Do you really beleive for 1 nanosecond that Nc is going to miss this golden opportunity to milk the hype (just like they did with Aion classic), do you really think they will not put cash grab rng boxes. How long till they make yet another shietshow p2w clownfiesta copy/paste of the original.......2-3 months? Stop lying to yourselfs.
My guess it will be heavily pvp based to moonwater plains. Probably unfinished content that decided to wrap up in UE4 when redoing the areas, but now that the main game is close to shutdown let's do that final milking to the playerbase lol
They let people go so far 60 hm39, you never hit that lv and gear. They need stop power lving and gearing. So new players able to catch up a bit. Or just wipe the server ;)
For those asking why tho.
It would be like how it started, more complex.
Wether is with Ncsoft or not would be nice, but it could also come by again and again the same progress.
I only would wish it stayed that way when things were easier and people talk you back cuz rn they are like stones standing in the server. I hope they can make it for the better instead for the worst.
will it actually happening?
Its prolly gonna happen for a nice cash grab, but Classic will be just as bad when it comes to gear and p2w after a couple of updates so no point to start again imho.
sure
For me it was the awakening patch that killed the game - that was when they reworked my dark warlock in to a some kind of abomination that was not fun to play anymore. Anything that is up to that point - is good for me, but anything past it - and i have 0 interest.
BnS Classic is big no for me for few reasons:
1. NCSoft will not miss oportunity to implement som p2w bs from the beginning.
2. I still remember how grindy was 24-man instances and how long it took me to collect all materials and accesories to progress my gear. I did it on almost all available classes and I really don't want to do it again.
3. Main reason why I left BnS after four months was forced PvP. Faction quests in Misty Woods was only way how to progress my gear further because of Soulstones. And I still remember how frustrated it was and how players was toxic already in that days. (When I returned back around a year later PvE and PvP gear has separated progress already. So I suppose that forced PvP wasn't cup of tea for many players.)
4. Watching story for 20th time and making just another character for slow pace progression is something that I really don't want to do anymore.
5. This is only my opinion, but I'm sure that classic server will be almost empty after few months. (Many ppl will leave for the same reason why they left 4 years ago and nostalgic feeling can't save that.) So time and money investment will be risky.
Best bns classic would be on UE4, and in not the hands of NCsoft, you know what i mean wink wink. Cause lets be honest, a classic server with ncsoft it will end up in the same shit all over again. And im a launch player that played over more tha 3 years non stop.
It would be great idea but I would not even bother if it was limitied to 45 cap/moonwater. I mean the only content you could do back then was bloodshade harbor/fleet and and wyrm, and wyrm itself is/was TRASH for loot, so basicaly no point in killing it besides saying "hey, we gathered 50 people and spent half and hour killing it for 1 silver worth of loot". With the knowellage we have now it would take max 3 weeks to get max gear and that's about it.
I think if they really did classic servers they should cap it around VT so pleople would at least have something to do for a year or two. BnS without raids is not BnS imo.
B&S Classic would be a total failure imo, I'd personally never play it
why the hell would anyone wanna play classic BnS? dont get me wrong if you enjoy it great. im just asking why
would you wanna play that? it will just slowly become P2W all over again.
idk back in the days it was kind of fun
The game used to be fun in the silverfrost days so it would be nice to relive that.
need bns classic? just play on private-server o.O
What server?