I'm here because I tried it in my bronze account and the games were so fun. The emerald teams raged too much to make it fun but my god is it a fun smurf stomper.
my regular team denies how strong this comp is, and when I say we need to learn how to counter it they just blow me off, needless to say, I got double jungled 5 times and was starved, we lost every game against it, idk how they think it doesn't work
Only way I’ve found to counter double jg with team is to try to create prio in solo lanes by 3 camp ganks with camping one early, then using the prio for vertical jgling and using the xp catchup. Doesn’t work as well in solo queue, but then often, neither does dbl jg.
the last game on this actually explains one of my biggest issues with modern league at the moment, this is something which i understand why Riot did but it feels very annoying as a jungler today. catch up XP! currently gaining a lead in jungle doesn't feel as impactful as it does in other roles, the enemy jungle can fall behind on farm/kills and manage to easily catch back up in level regardless of how much the other jungler snowballs which is why invading feels like more of an ego thing than an actual advantage these days
There are more mechanics behind that wall that I’ve not explained. Everytime you kill a camp it respawns with a higher level granting more experience. So if a solo jungler counter jungles and steals a camp the next time it comes back it worth more experience allowing the enemy jungle to catch up. In the mean time, you go back to kill your camp that’s worth less exp now. This is another reason double jungle is so strong. Original jungler is still killing his own camps and they’re respawning a higher level so more exp, plus the second jungler is denying the exp and in situations like this where im the one behind in exp, because I’m killing higher level camps I can abuse the catch up exp instead of him.
@@grimmbleaper9981 add this with a Zillean in midlane and fueling your jgl exp to wider the gap in lvl. Yep that definitely much harder to compete lol 😂
thumbs up and fist bump are such a universal language and i cannot be more grateful for those 2 things, no matter what language you speak you speak thumbs up fist bump.
that Command and Conquer Zero Hour music! That game was so fun. Just wanna let ya know the content is great. I don't play LOL as often anymore but you made it very entertaining and the cuts and editing are prime! Great work.
i like how friendly gestures are a crucial early game goal. League jargon is 'securing dragon / blue buff / first tower ' , 'protecting mid , baron ' but its easy to see how securing friends / team mentality is just as tangible and more important. A team can be ahead on gold but if teammates have a high tilt count over individual gold / waves / kills / buffs / lack of help then its amounts to a measurable loss of gold.
having fully quit league when vanguard came out (because i literally was unable to thanks to certain bios settings i have on), you are the only league youtuber I still watch to this day, absolute legend also holy shit the "hold the ult so I can use it against the wall" had me full belly laugh in the middle of the night god damnit lol
Dia 4 is the break through point, the worst hell imagineable, the 1000 games 49% winrate because " I am dia and thats why im better" elo. But things settle once u hit dia 2, then its up to you what you are made of... I feel comfortable in emerald 2, peak was masters with brand and dia 2 with nida
That Lee Sin in the beginning of the 1st game just shows skills and mentality diff. He could have asked your top laner and maybe even mid laner to invade the enemy blue the moment he saw there are 3 people preventing him from taking the enemy red.
You and Kirei inspired me. I'm not playing support, Smite Elise, in Iron and invading every game using Kirei's Narnia Strat. I had 2 in games and still won with my team complaining the entire time and in 1 game I MASSIVELY popped off - and lost hilariously the game I dominated in was the one I lost due to a hopeless team that wouldn't group with a Barron every tower on map inhib soul and 15 kill lead was insane. But again thank you I'm loving league again even if I get raged at by all 9 players every game so far haha.
Bro you are so freaking good been subbed for a minute and trying to use this strategy in my online matches. Once I get off my 14 day ban imma keep at it. Keep up the good work my man jokes aside im actually a huge fan I love off meta stuff
It's amazing how you came up with this playstyle and not only prove that is is efficent but actually master it. I think eventually Riot will nerf this playstyle in some way, they love to shut down fun and unique playstyles
I recall Tilterella doing own side raptors and then go for enemy opposite buff, if the junglers there, try to steal it. (try and be stealthy when moving in) If not, do, put a ward on buff to see when they come, do gromp/krugs (careful they don't see you on top side krugs) and then either try steal/kill if you get a bush full charge Q, or take if the enemy goes for an early gank.
@@ephremcortvrint2376 said it well. Theres plenty of options as it's very versatile, just try figure out a method that works best for you in your elo. If you're low leo you can probably literally walk up and no ones gonna care.
20:00 Cait was like you're gonna get banned LOL Anivia: like is this like shaco jungle? Cait: he's stealing our own camps, thats just troll Thats some strong mental fortitude you had that game
What you said about diamond 4-3 is something I've noticed so many times in EUW. I'm currently learning jungle after reaching master on mid, and I just got to D3, it's been so much easier to carry through D4 than all of emerald lol
I guess the mentality for the first game here is the enemy would be relaxed and think you're trolling so they didn't try hard the game. Until they realize the sion is everywhere around the map helping everyone and it's already too late
I've been watching you for about a year now, love hate relationship. I can now confirm you are the most successful degenerate, congratulations and good work.
Here's my little theory about "player quality" dropping as you climb up : Multiple things are at play to achieve victory. You can have good mlechanics, and good picking/counter picking skills, that can carry you far, without having to look at the whole game/strategy
Sion ult is one of the worst feeling ults in the game, so rare it can pay off unless you combo it or they're completely out of dashes, and the hitboxes on it makes you hit terrain often. Most times I just save it to try and get out of a tough situation instead, or to cancel cc.
Its funny because people are not getting into double jungle and be like "öh me göd this is söö greet" and here I had done this already in the first 3-4 seasons :'d
11:18 I'm nowhere near those brackets so this is just speculation on my part but could the skill level be "dropping" because there is a fundamental shift in strategy/play that needs to occur around this level and so a lot of people are trying a bunch of different things to improve? so you're going to either get more failures or climb out. I notice when I hit a plateau on other skills (climbing, music, other games) it suddenly feels like I got worse at the game and can't do a lot basic things correctly all of a sudden, but then eventually I figure something out and I get out of the plateau. Or I take a break LOL
that's potentially part of it, but it's also about the general chokepoint between emerald and diamond, because you need to win multiple games in a row against people with diamond mmr, there's a bit more volatility and luck involved, whereas once you're past that breakpoint, you can have a lower mmr, but as long as you're maintaining at around 50% you won't demote
i'm main sp and i learned from you this style play. Then i mastered this style and opponent's jungle was always crying too hard when i got all burst from him =))). lol.
@Tilterella thanks for the reply!! I've been loving your videos since before you took a little break. Love the time and effort you put in your videos, music choice and breakdowns. Also love your accountability! Do you know Nathan & Curtis from OCE?
Who's here from Midbeast's Recent video?
It's funny how late his video was it was the first video you uploaded wondering if you were going to climb out of emerald
@@Tilterella I was here before !! Midbeast flames you but can't deny the off meta strats
I'm here because I tried it in my bronze account and the games were so fun. The emerald teams raged too much to make it fun but my god is it a fun smurf stomper.
I watched before his video but saw it too - i'm surprised he doesn't like your playstyle nearly as much as baus's
This randomly showed up on my feed and I clicked because I thought you were gonna be a girl jungler. WTF with your name?
4:30 "so i can use it against the wall." Truly a Sion otp
I laughed so hard 🤣
Came to comment exactly this!! So funny 😂
hahahahahahah actually made me crack the fk up
he got what he deserve to be placed that inconveniently.
Maybe it will inspire Riot for the next map change :)
Even Baus does that too, he did vs T1
The phrase "We didn't fly all the way over here to make friends" just made me really smile and like this video.
NGL you had me good at 4:20 you get a like for that one
Bro I went to comment literally the exact same thing and you alrdy said it
Really enjoying this series, interesting choice to ult the zeri instead of the wall though in game 3
it was a choice I didn't make lightly
my regular team denies how strong this comp is, and when I say we need to learn how to counter it they just blow me off, needless to say, I got double jungled 5 times and was starved, we lost every game against it, idk how they think it doesn't work
This shit is so good in clash lol, we had the enemy jg ragequit twice
i face double jg on my first game as a jg, idk how to counter it. quick play on South america is something diferent.
Counter double jungle with proxy comp
Off meta vs off meta
and then they blame you
Only way I’ve found to counter double jg with team is to try to create prio in solo lanes by 3 camp ganks with camping one early, then using the prio for vertical jgling and using the xp catchup. Doesn’t work as well in solo queue, but then often, neither does dbl jg.
Tilt i repeat:
Love This Series
💓💓
Love these videos, the icing on top is the command and conquer music lmao😂
animeballsdeep plays league n watches tilterella ??
Yes@@kujojacobo
Remember the old tilterella rap at the end of videos? Pepperidge farms remembers
the last game on this actually explains one of my biggest issues with modern league at the moment, this is something which i understand why Riot did but it feels very annoying as a jungler today.
catch up XP! currently gaining a lead in jungle doesn't feel as impactful as it does in other roles, the enemy jungle can fall behind on farm/kills and manage to easily catch back up in level regardless of how much the other jungler snowballs which is why invading feels like more of an ego thing than an actual advantage these days
There are more mechanics behind that wall that I’ve not explained. Everytime you kill a camp it respawns with a higher level granting more experience. So if a solo jungler counter jungles and steals a camp the next time it comes back it worth more experience allowing the enemy jungle to catch up. In the mean time, you go back to kill your camp that’s worth less exp now. This is another reason double jungle is so strong. Original jungler is still killing his own camps and they’re respawning a higher level so more exp, plus the second jungler is denying the exp and in situations like this where im the one behind in exp, because I’m killing higher level camps I can abuse the catch up exp instead of him.
@@Tilterella thats so clever. your the best
@@grimmbleaper9981 add this with a Zillean in midlane and fueling your jgl exp to wider the gap in lvl. Yep that definitely much harder to compete lol 😂
That wall bit got me good, was expecting some 200IQ strat, and the disappointment in your voice was palpable.
thumbs up and fist bump are such a universal language and i cannot be more grateful for those 2 things, no matter what language you speak you speak thumbs up fist bump.
4:21 never change bro 😂
6:26 vanguard?
@@Gormezzz he got bounced by the trundle pillar, why he bounced off of it and didn't just collide and stop the ult is just regular sion jank
@thest0mpa Gracias señor but we all know Tilterella is a proven hacker. No one can legitimately get this many cheeses off
The wall would have been a dangerous foe if you had not constantly ulted it 6:09
If you look at soon support pick rate / game count you can see a clear uptick from just this series
Really? which stat site are you using to check
that Command and Conquer Zero Hour music! That game was so fun.
Just wanna let ya know the content is great. I don't play LOL as often anymore but you made it very entertaining and the cuts and editing are prime! Great work.
Always love when one of your videos pops into my feed, they always trick me into thinking league is actually fun :D
Man this guy's narration is always so good 🔥
i like how friendly gestures are a crucial early game goal. League jargon is 'securing dragon / blue buff / first tower ' , 'protecting mid , baron ' but its easy to see how securing friends / team mentality is just as tangible and more important. A team can be ahead on gold but if teammates have a high tilt count over individual gold / waves / kills / buffs / lack of help then its amounts to a measurable loss of gold.
Bro the wall ults were so cleaaan 😂
having fully quit league when vanguard came out (because i literally was unable to thanks to certain bios settings i have on), you are the only league youtuber I still watch to this day, absolute legend
also holy shit the "hold the ult so I can use it against the wall" had me full belly laugh in the middle of the night god damnit lol
Dia 4 is the break through point, the worst hell imagineable, the 1000 games 49% winrate because " I am dia and thats why im better" elo.
But things settle once u hit dia 2, then its up to you what you are made of... I feel comfortable in emerald 2, peak was masters with brand and dia 2 with nida
shutup
Love your vids. Been watching for years now and your content genuinely never gets old, pure quality.
That Lee Sin in the beginning of the 1st game just shows skills and mentality diff. He could have asked your top laner and maybe even mid laner to invade the enemy blue the moment he saw there are 3 people preventing him from taking the enemy red.
You and Kirei inspired me. I'm not playing support, Smite Elise, in Iron and invading every game using Kirei's Narnia Strat. I had 2 in games and still won with my team complaining the entire time and in 1 game I MASSIVELY popped off - and lost hilariously the game I dominated in was the one I lost due to a hopeless team that wouldn't group with a Barron every tower on map inhib soul and 15 kill lead was insane. But again thank you I'm loving league again even if I get raged at by all 9 players every game so far haha.
strategically targeting walls is key for when playing Sion.
I love the fact that basically all your videos have the tf2 soundtrack in them.
love the series, love the channel, best LoL content on youtube rn
Bro you are so freaking good been subbed for a minute and trying to use this strategy in my online matches. Once I get off my 14 day ban imma keep at it. Keep up the good work my man
jokes aside im actually a huge fan I love off meta stuff
that 5Head move from not immediately using R (blindly) -> using it straight in to a wall instead caught me laughing out loud, well played
4:23 Best joke I've heard in league in a minute. Had me cracking up.
6:47 how the hell do you have 477k RP in live server
Wait... Wtf
Riot acc
It's amazing how you came up with this playstyle and not only prove that is is efficent but actually master it. I think eventually Riot will nerf this playstyle in some way, they love to shut down fun and unique playstyles
That yasuo on game 3 actually popped off at the end 😂
Love this series! Great content!
If the team doesn't follow the invade call on the strat what should I do?
I think you should 1v5 invade in that situation
Rage quit
I recall Tilterella doing own side raptors and then go for enemy opposite buff, if the junglers there, try to steal it. (try and be stealthy when moving in) If not, do, put a ward on buff to see when they come, do gromp/krugs (careful they don't see you on top side krugs) and then either try steal/kill if you get a bush full charge Q, or take if the enemy goes for an early gank.
@@ephremcortvrint2376 said it well. Theres plenty of options as it's very versatile, just try figure out a method that works best for you in your elo. If you're low leo you can probably literally walk up and no ones gonna care.
"Strategically target the wall"... you had me in stitches! :'D
I haven't played league in years but your editing, commentary, humor and unique playstyle have got me watching every video
Glad to have you here Ryan
20:00 Cait was like you're gonna get banned LOL
Anivia: like is this like shaco jungle?
Cait: he's stealing our own camps, thats just troll
Thats some strong mental fortitude you had that game
Tilt, I was questioning your music choises but bro...
Your plays are inspiring. Nice music on this vid keep it up
Very cool vid! Now I want to learn Sion :). I like the music too!
love your content man, keep it up!
I'm glad I found you from the greatest player of all time. Your video structure style is bar none, great content.
Loving this Korean arc. Big stuff tilt
great vid man! Super entertaining
What you said about diamond 4-3 is something I've noticed so many times in EUW. I'm currently learning jungle after reaching master on mid, and I just got to D3, it's been so much easier to carry through D4 than all of emerald lol
those jokes abt ulting the wall were so damn funny dude, I cant stop laughing
4:39 you had me in the first half I ain’t gonna lie 😂
The way you matter of factually explained about holding the ult to target the wall was so hilarious.
the first game really shows the different mentality in the korea servers
always love a tilt video keep it up!!!!
Super entertaining and informative video, Tilterella!
Love this series man, absolute pique content.
I reckon you could actually be starting to influence the meta in a larger way now man
just wait till we go NA and mess them up
As a JG main myself this strat is so interesting. I love watching your vids but if someone does this in my solo queue game i'm gonna scream lmao
This is my favorite series. Please can we get daily or every other day? I can’t wait a week between episodes!
Hey man love you thanks for the content
Love your videos hope you keep it up!
These videos are so gooood - learning a lot!!
For the algorithm, your content is consistently amazing
Another awesome vid well done Tilt
can’t beleive yt recommended a lol. video after I uninstalled almost a year after the malware update lmao
I think you’ll like this series
you’re right, I do, cuz it’s you who makeswatching actually fun. and.not a Neace, damn, I was a fool
This double smite strat is really good as long as the adc doesnt die or get too far behind
Love the series. Keep it up!
Remember guys Hold ur R to use it against the wall LOL what a statment , great video again , im addicted to this series.
I’m quite tempted to do this strategy as well now. I’ve been trying it with skarner and it seems to work from time to time
I guess the mentality for the first game here is the enemy would be relaxed and think you're trolling so they didn't try hard the game. Until they realize the sion is everywhere around the map helping everyone and it's already too late
man I quit this game but I love watching these videos.
I play very little league but this play style reminds me of my dota 2 days, great vid
Finally, dude I am loving the Korean content
I've been watching you for about a year now, love hate relationship. I can now confirm you are the most successful degenerate, congratulations and good work.
Here's my little theory about "player quality" dropping as you climb up : Multiple things are at play to achieve victory. You can have good mlechanics, and good picking/counter picking skills, that can carry you far, without having to look at the whole game/strategy
That yasou play on 16:29 was sick
Finally saw someone comment on that, bro was smooth with it
Sion ult is one of the worst feeling ults in the game, so rare it can pay off unless you combo it or they're completely out of dashes, and the hitboxes on it makes you hit terrain often. Most times I just save it to try and get out of a tough situation instead, or to cancel cc.
Love this series!!
Thx for the good videos man
the tf2 osts make your videos even better, gg
Like your videos man. Very educative.
Another great vod of showing us the good and the bad.
Its funny because people are not getting into double jungle and be like "öh me göd this is söö greet" and here I had done this already in the first 3-4 seasons :'d
11:18 I'm nowhere near those brackets so this is just speculation on my part but could the skill level be "dropping" because there is a fundamental shift in strategy/play that needs to occur around this level and so a lot of people are trying a bunch of different things to improve? so you're going to either get more failures or climb out. I notice when I hit a plateau on other skills (climbing, music, other games) it suddenly feels like I got worse at the game and can't do a lot basic things correctly all of a sudden, but then eventually I figure something out and I get out of the plateau. Or I take a break LOL
that's potentially part of it, but it's also about the general chokepoint between emerald and diamond, because you need to win multiple games in a row against people with diamond mmr, there's a bit more volatility and luck involved, whereas once you're past that breakpoint, you can have a lower mmr, but as long as you're maintaining at around 50% you won't demote
they never expect the double wall gambit
love the timeline of anger to acceptance from the lee
There is something fucking hilarious of the screen shaking from the fist bump. My humor has to be brain dead if I think that’s hilarious 💀
This is so fun to watch unironically
Always a legend, for years now.
That wall ult buildup killed me
The R restraint to use it in the wall made me laugh xD
i'm main sp and i learned from you this style play. Then i mastered this style and opponent's jungle was always crying too hard when i got all burst from him =))). lol.
Don’t even play league but love the series, nice quality 👍
Like always, incredible :D
Whoever edits your videos really loves TF2 music
Tilterella: We are not on a timer, they are on a timer.
Enemy team: Smolder Jinx Zac.
The only one of those three I worry about is Zac
Because he has the potential to change the outcome the others not so much
Keep it the content and keep ulting those walls!
You are an inspiration to my support/jgl gameplay
Wonder how many new fans you got from midbeasts vid - ily tilt
lets find out
@Tilterella thanks for the reply!! I've been loving your videos since before you took a little break. Love the time and effort you put in your videos, music choice and breakdowns. Also love your accountability!
Do you know Nathan & Curtis from OCE?
@@ayyzapp I do, they don't like me. 🤣🤣
@@Tilterella how come!? They run a pretty badass podcast
3:14 Bruh, I love so much this ult ping
NO WAY, did he ult?
pinged it in chat so he can track the time. chat timestamps you know
@BruiserProdigy oh, ok
Makes sense
those korean walls hit different man.
I don't want to comment to help the algorithm because I never want to see this in my games lmao, but very well done!
Most problem in this playstyle are ADCs that cant play safe the laningphase and intfeed the hell outta game. So enemy bottom takes copnotrol over map
i used to play sion supp aswell, love to see im not the only1 to believe