Another very thoughtful for discussion. The other thing to watch is when people seem to like "everything" that you do. It can cause a very false sense of confidence.
Thanks Ed, I appreciate that. Yeah, the whole fake praise thing is bad too. Learning to know what we like and pleasing ourselves is a huge step forward…
Great point about over-processing and removing atmosphere. I find some of my older work over-processed, in retrospect, but being in need of cataract surgery at one stage partly explains why. It's sometimes interesting to reprocess older images using newer techniques with the benefit of experience. Photography is an interesting journey and your videos are insightful. Thanks for what you do.
👍🏻👍🏻 your videos and words always make me think. A Care has been taken deficit is concern for me. Finding that line in the sand between care and spontaneity. Sometimes focus in the field is sufficient for what I’m intending in the field, but not sufficient in post or with a heavy crop. I appreciate being in the EP Forum where intentionally breaking rules is celebrated. And I’m also sitting with your recent comment on one of my images having tension due to out of focus areas. I’m now reflecting, I wonder if the out of focus was intentional or due to lack of care. I’m going to be more conscious next time out in the field. If people don’t appreciate my images that’s ok, but if it’s due to my lack of care, that’s not ok with me. Another great learning experience 🤔👍🏻👍🏻
Cheers for that, many thanks. Spontaneous creativity is such a gift and care being taken is a product of subconscious awareness which comes with practice - the craft. Take time, but don’t obsess is my mantra. ❤️
"The good news is you're not paranoid", Cute. I recently heard the recommendation to sit on a picture for 6 months before you decide to post it so you can look at it again without the emotional attachment. I might also add that if our personal taste has a very small following of others with similar tastes, be prepared for a small amount of feedback.
YES! Nicely done as always Alister … love your approach to photography … especially liked the part about taking care (sensor spots, horizons, border patrol etc)
When we toss out those photos that have obvious mistakes and publish our best work, a hate reaction to our photos posted online is nothing more than an expression of preference.
If I might add a slightly different perspective, I think we DO want an emotional reaction to our photographs, whether positive or negative. If you think of the iconic images of our time, the photographs we most value as a society are those that have evoked an emotional response - joy or pleasure or horror or disgust. What personally scares me most is work that evokes no reaction at all. That said, I fully support play and experimentation, as long as the result doesn't just look like a careless mistake. The points mentioned about tidying up speak to that.
Thank you very much, Alister, care and craftmanship are „conditiones sine qua none“ in my opinion. Sometimes I am kind of offended, when I show photographs to people and I notice mistakes like those you talk about and they tell me that it’s just o.k. and that I shouldn’t care. Honestly speaking they don’t like photography at all and don’t take it seriously. B.t.w. nice one about paranoia😅.
There's no doubt how Picaso, Dali or Pollock would have responded (e.g. F*&k 'em). Did photography ever enjoy a cycle/s when creativity was rewarded vs the herd mentality? (perhaps Adams???) Realizing the artistic talent is rarely recognized during the creator's lifetime, the vast majority of us remain encaged in our day jobs. I still feel doomed, that's two weeks back to back. Bill
Sorry for your feeling of doom! I’ve developed a really chilled relationship with the whole thing. I’m just out here to enjoy myself and hopefully allow people to see that there is life beyond likes
@@Alister_Benn As a former educator, I do think it is a generational issue. Dare we blame FB for instituting the younger group's obcession with how many "friends/likes" they could collect? Oh well, I always enjoy your thoughts and our exchanges. Bill
@@dwrisdon2487 All of social media is specifically engineered to exploit our weaknesses, and it's only going to get more sophisticated. It's essentially become a drug, and we're all headed into some treacherous territory (as a society, I mean, not this specific community lol).
Love the how you use the word "care" here. Wonderful way to approach it.
Great advice Alister, enjoyed the video as per usual (:
Another very thoughtful for discussion. The other thing to watch is when people seem to like "everything" that you do. It can cause a very false sense of confidence.
Thanks Ed, I appreciate that. Yeah, the whole fake praise thing is bad too. Learning to know what we like and pleasing ourselves is a huge step forward…
Well Done - Thank You!
Great point about over-processing and removing atmosphere. I find some of my older work over-processed, in retrospect, but being in need of cataract surgery at one stage partly explains why. It's sometimes interesting to reprocess older images using newer techniques with the benefit of experience. Photography is an interesting journey and your videos are insightful. Thanks for what you do.
Great video! Thank you
Edit to what was seen that day is what I prefer to do so I am sharing the beauty that caught my eye. Great video as always!
thank you Alister, always learning so much from your videos :)
I aspire to trigger hate but tend to hold back.
good point that there's a difference between style/choice and a mistake.
👍🏻👍🏻 your videos and words always make me think. A Care has been taken deficit is concern for me. Finding that line in the sand between care and spontaneity. Sometimes focus in the field is sufficient for what I’m intending in the field, but not sufficient in post or with a heavy crop. I appreciate being in the EP Forum where intentionally breaking rules is celebrated.
And I’m also sitting with your recent comment on one of my images having tension due to out of focus areas.
I’m now reflecting, I wonder if the out of focus was intentional or due to lack of care. I’m going to be more conscious next time out in the field.
If people don’t appreciate my images that’s ok, but if it’s due to my lack of care, that’s not ok with me. Another great learning experience 🤔👍🏻👍🏻
Cheers for that, many thanks. Spontaneous creativity is such a gift and care being taken is a product of subconscious awareness which comes with practice - the craft. Take time, but don’t obsess is my mantra. ❤️
@@Alister_Benn Take time but don’t obsess. OMG words to live by ❤️🙏🏻
"The good news is you're not paranoid", Cute. I recently heard the recommendation to sit on a picture for 6 months before you decide to post it so you can look at it again without the emotional attachment. I might also add that if our personal taste has a very small following of others with similar tastes, be prepared for a small amount of feedback.
YES! Nicely done as always Alister … love your approach to photography … especially liked the part about taking care (sensor spots, horizons, border patrol etc)
I actually love the photo taken at the hebrides. If I'd taken it myself I'd probably hang it on the wall😊
Great video as ever!
When we toss out those photos that have obvious mistakes and publish our best work, a hate reaction to our photos posted online is nothing more than an expression of preference.
If I might add a slightly different perspective, I think we DO want an emotional reaction to our photographs, whether positive or negative. If you think of the iconic images of our time, the photographs we most value as a society are those that have evoked an emotional response - joy or pleasure or horror or disgust. What personally scares me most is work that evokes no reaction at all. That said, I fully support play and experimentation, as long as the result doesn't just look like a careless mistake. The points mentioned about tidying up speak to that.
Thank you very much, Alister, care and craftmanship are „conditiones sine qua none“ in my opinion. Sometimes I am kind of offended, when I
show photographs to people and I notice mistakes like those you talk about and they tell me that it’s just o.k. and that I shouldn’t care. Honestly speaking they don’t like photography at all and don’t take it seriously. B.t.w. nice one about paranoia😅.
Yep, don't be like Barb and get tunnel vision. 😂. More like rushing through a scene. Very good video Alister. ☺️
Thanks so much Barb ❤️ I’m so happy you’re active on the forum now, stick at it ❤️
@@Alister_Benn I was just thinking about going to my computer and logging on. Got one from last night with lots of tension 😬.
@@blivieriphoto excellent, I’ll look forward to that ❤️
There's no doubt how Picaso, Dali or Pollock would have responded (e.g. F*&k 'em). Did photography ever enjoy a cycle/s when creativity was rewarded vs the herd mentality? (perhaps Adams???) Realizing the artistic talent is rarely recognized during the creator's lifetime, the vast majority of us remain encaged in our day jobs. I still feel doomed, that's two weeks back to back. Bill
Sorry for your feeling of doom! I’ve developed a really chilled relationship with the whole thing. I’m just out here to enjoy myself and hopefully allow people to see that there is life beyond likes
@@Alister_Benn As a former educator, I do think it is a generational issue. Dare we blame FB for instituting the younger group's obcession with how many "friends/likes" they could collect?
Oh well, I always enjoy your thoughts and our exchanges. Bill
@@dwrisdon2487 💯❤️
@@dwrisdon2487 All of social media is specifically engineered to exploit our weaknesses, and it's only going to get more sophisticated. It's essentially become a drug, and we're all headed into some treacherous territory (as a society, I mean, not this specific community lol).
What an excellent video Alister. Thank you 😀