“Whatever it is that you were drawing on the other night… you can tell me about it.” “Hm. Thanks.” “…Well I mean I just told you about my marriage…” “That’s true. :)” Best interaction ever
As a guy with Asperger's, I can say that Barry is probably the most accurate representation of high-functioning autism (comorbid with PTSD and other stuff, though) in media that I've ever seen. His flattened affect, poor emotion regulation, the disjointed way he talks. This is it. This is perfection.
I kinda hate how people have to be so quick to throw a label on someone just because they match their preconceptions for how that label should be portrayed.
@dracos24 it's almost as if the people who actually are autistic, see similarities between them and the characters they're labeling. It's literally not hurting anyone.
@@dracos24Barry’s a character, if people want to have a little headcanon about him being autistic, they can. It would be different if people were labeling the actor Bill as autistic. That’s not really okay because we don’t know him or how his brain works. But Barry is just a fictional character
I sort of problematically assumed so bc he doesn’t ever really laugh, joke, get jokes, when others are sad he doesn’t really process it well, or fully aware of his surroundings (like when ppl react to Ryan’s death, not understanding the priest piece, Sally crying) and is so serious about everything all the time
not to say that autistics are sociopaths i know a lot of them and have worked with a lot of them and they are often great people, but a lot of those traits apply yo socio/psychopaths which is a more accurate diagnosis for barry imo
The part where he didn’t know how to react to Ryan’s death seemed more like a joke on Barry not being surprised by that fact, then remembering he should be surprised and upset about it. But I can see how it is interpreted as him not understanding how to feel.
I’m on the spectrum and I immediately knew Barry was too, he’s so well written and acted, he has a lot of little subtle autistic mannerisms that I have myself and it was nice being able to relate to details like that
adding onto this! i've noticed that barry stims a lot throughout the show, usually in the form of leg bouncing, finger tapping/hand shaking etc, and often after remembering/experiencing something traumatic or generally overwhelming. (5:18 is a good example) However I'm not sure whether or not it's a conscious character choice, as bill also does a lot of the same things* and might've just... added them in without really realising it. * also, this is not me implying that bill himself is autistic (because, of course, NTs stim too and stims are often similar to anxious fidgeting which iirc bill has talked about on a few occasions)
The hand-shaking you timestamped came from one of Bill's daughters. He said in an interview that when she was younger and about to be unhappy, she began shaking her hands like that.
You ever heard of AD/HD? Not everything is fucking autism these day. Also that Neuro Typical shit you gen z'ers always talk about is annoying as fuck. i'M nOt nEuRo-tYpIcAl! Just shut up please for everyone's sake just shut up.
and in the season 3 episode 2 when barry yells at sally, he starts to hit himself on the head, it can be viewed as consequences of his ptds and high anxiety level, but it's kinda reminds me of an autistic meltdown, but i might be mistaken 👀
Bill Hader does have anxiety disorders and panic attacks. He had a handful on the set of Saturday Night Live, and even one in the middle of a live sketch which Lorne Michaels and the crew were essentially forced to pretend it was part of the sketch while Jason Sudekis got Bill off-stage. A lot of this stemmed from how he never really wanted to do live sketch comedy and always wanted to be a more methodical writer-director, but you sometimes have to spend some time in one part of the entertainment industry you might not care for that much in order to get to where you really want to be, and how part of the initial idea behind Barry was reflecting Bill's feelings of being really good at something that was actually really bad for his mental health to keep doing. Some of Barry's most volatile outbursts, like the one at the end of Season 3, required Bill to essentially force himself to have a real anxiety attack in order to make it feel as real as possible. Autism and anxiety do often cone together, as someone with both but generally identifying more with the autistic part. I guess it's kind of like how Sterling Archer is often presented as autistic-coded, although Barry tends to be a lot more emotionally raw than Archer, but I think the comparison still works.
Shes clearly a narcissist. Shes happy for others only when the good things are happening to her too and even then it seems superficial. She almost exposed herself when Barry went to on to audition for a part when she was clearly upset he got the big gig before her even tho she thinks shes best actress in the whole class. You even saw how she switched her emotions to Barry. Its like she didnt even recognise what he did for her. A young girl was able to shift her opinion easily. A ticking time bomb living in her bubble where she is nr.1
her arc in season 3 was great, somehow i still sympathised with her at times (the scene after barry yelled at her, she started freaking out making sure barry wouldn't hurt her - making food and replacing the controller - broke my heart), sarah goldberg is an amazing actress, bill hader is 10/10 too 😌
@@bhayat911 Well yeah. People are selfish. Barry is selfish. He kills people who found him out instead of owning up. People have bad annoying character traits. Sally spent years surviving in an abusive household, a lot of her behaviour is not only human but completely justified in that context as well. Of course she looks out for herself first, no one else will do it for her
It’s funny to put these scenes into the context of him being in the spectrum but most of the instances are Barry trying to act normal while either trying to hide how he feels or what he knows (ie ryans death was known to him when everyone found out but it really hit him once he was in the same room with ryan’s father, or after he had killed a fellow marine but couldn’t tell anyone) or it’s him fitting in to a situation that isn’t really him (ie him at the bar when he just met the acting students, or at the party trying to impress sally) also the scene where’s he’s drunk at the party he was more or less talking like a marine, and an infantry marine at that.
I feel like a lot of his social obliviousness is also there for comedy value. So he doesn’t respond naturally and that’s what makes the show funny a lot of the time.
It's fit's TOO well for it to be coincidental. I'd be 100% up for them confirming it in the show, it wouldn't change a lot of the story, he still crosses the line and seemingly has other psychological problems. but it would humanize him even further, and in a way it could make his story also serve as an example of people in the spectrum who don't get any level of therapy/treatment and instead get emotionally taken advantage of.
@@hannibalburgers477 Even if it was as simple as that, sociopathy is still a real thing that people struggle with, it's not good to associate real anti-social disorder as evil or bad, it's a mental disorder and people people with it get treated. And I'd say this last season is doing plenty to show the complexity of Barry's situation by also showing just how destructive and selfish the people around him have also been.(you can argue Barry 'corrupted' them, but i argue you can see their selfish and cold traits early from season 1, especially on a 2nd watch.) It's posible he also has anti-social disorder and Autism, _and_ PTSD, paired with a bad upbringing.(his male parental figures have both seemingly enforced the role of a soldier ever since little, and the first time he killed he was heavily praised in the military). I'm not saying he should be absolved of all the bad stuff he has done, he is not inocent, he still needs accountability. I'm saying that 99% of his crimes are not rooted in the traditional sense of "evil Hollywood sociopath killer", perhaps he reaches that point this season- he may reach a breaking point, but so far, he's a character that most other characters didn't care to really understand (that Cousineau scene were he enacts Barry's story and pretends to be Barry is kind of telling, he gives Barry what I'd describe as a very 'traditional' rendition of what mentally handicapped people would be portrayed/mocked as by people, i digress-), has been used as a killing Maschine by others, or a prop for fame/money, and he'd be better off in a good mental institution were they'd actually treat and diagnose him rather then in a prison.
Spectrum implies there could be a theoretical limit in either direction., meaning someone could potentially have zero of these qualities. However, the actual explanation is that it encompasses everyone who is thought to have the condition, not the general population as a whole. Being on the spectrum doesn’t mean everyone is on the spectrum;Rather, it means autism has varying degrees of severity that make it difficult to neatly categorize.
@@andrewnibbi nope....it means there's a wide umbrella that covers a bunch of symptoms...ppl who experience these symptoms and the subsequent struggles and obstacles....and let's not forget the Venn diagram of how neurodivergent conditions share some criteria or another with each other
This title seems in bad taste. These behaviors aren't supposed to code Barry as autistic, they're supposed to indicate his psychopathy. Sure, in isolation, they could be associated with either, but as a whole character, Barry is not representative of people with ASD, but people with ASPD.
@@user-xg2tj4qx9h no. I don't identify with Barry at all. And it concerns me that people here do. Calling this character "iconic" representation is like the exact opposite of what the creators were going for. Thanks for the baseless series of assumptions about my identity though, that was hilar
@@user-xg2tj4qx9h the video isn't called "Barry being relatable for 10 minutes." If the character weren't somewhat relatable no one would watch the show. My objection is to the hundreds of commenters saying a character that constantly lies, socially manipulates, and has basically zero empathy or specialized interest is a "canon" "autistic icon."
She's not, she's just the love interest, Barry falls in love with her because she represents a "normal" woman away from the life of a criminal, and Sally clearly likes him when he's not obviously acting too off, and makes it pretty clear that she doesn't like him doing things like thinking that not letting other men talk to her makes him a cooler and tougher boyfriend. And it only gets worse from there in the later seasons because they both get a lot worse at hiding their issues. Girl being nice and sweet to almost-boyfriend-like-guy when he's not being too difficult =/= girl obsessing over guy.
A lot of the characters especially in S3 and some parts of S4 basically say it’s because Barry treats her like a star which is the only thing she’s ever wanted. She kisses and sleeps with Barry in the first season because he says “you’re one of the best actresses I’ve ever seen”
That's the beauty of it....you the viewer is left to believe and think whatever the hell you want from this character... you're as right as anyone else's interpretation
As someone who was misdiagnosed with autism, and had to fight to get it removed from my record to even have a chance of being accepted into normal society, Not everyone who is weird or does not fit the societal norm is autistic. please stop using autism as a catch all for "quirky behavior." Autism is a mental disability.
Ok well as someone who has been correctly diagnosed with autism for years, I know all about how autistic people are mistreated. I am very aware that we are mentally disabled. I find it insulting that you would call autistic traits “quirky behavior”.
Wowzers. The amount of hatred toward autistic people in the OP comment is upsetting. Many many autistic people are accepted and thrive in society. Maybe not by people like Jerma, but you know... By good people.
@@comedypoison7248 You invalidate the actual struggles of autism by comparing film and movie characters who are a little 'weird' to actual autistic people.
@@GarySiniseOfficial I did not miss it. I just did not address it. I was instead focused on the attitude your comment betrayed. You stated that you had to fight your autism diagnosis to have some sort of chance of acceptance. You implied that having autism was some sort of terrible thing, and being diagnosed was somehow damaging. I vehemently disagree. Many people find being diagnosed to be affirming. These same people often identify with fictional characters who, while not be diagnosed as part of their canon, are autisticly coded in their writing (e.g. Sheldon Cooper, Abed Nadir). Noticing and relating to autisticly coded characters is a positive thing. Your opposition to it, and your disgust with your own diagnosis betrays your low and narrow opinion of autistic people.
@@danmentorproductions I'd like to say partially because it shrugs off toxic behaviours as just "haha, neurodivergent! ^w^" but also because this is clearly not a character study at the very least focused on someone who's neurodivergent. It's a character study on a guy who's still trying to pretend he's a good person after doing all of these horrible things. I won't dismiss the idea of a convincing villain who has focuses on his neurodivergence, but as a whole this just feels distasteful and almost a bit like infantilising a man who's in his 40's.
Ehhh I definitely see where you’re coming from, but I really don’t think that’s the case. No one here seems to be excusing his actions because they headcanon him as autistic, it’s mostly just autistic people saying “hey he does some things I do” and drawing this theory from that observation. You don’t have to excuse a characters actions to create headcanons for them, nor do you have to excuse their actions to enjoy them. Saying that Barry might be autistic is in no way justifying him also being a bad person, those two things aren’t connected.
Except that he's not one and make such assumptions for cheap laughs is NOT cool. Why couldn't you just make compilations without bringing specturm or disorders or anything like that in the mix? Smh
“Whatever it is that you were drawing on the other night… you can tell me about it.”
“Hm. Thanks.”
“…Well I mean I just told you about my marriage…”
“That’s true. :)”
Best interaction ever
Lmao as an autistic person I’ve literally had interactions JUST like this
"I just like broth" he's like me fr
I never really thought about it, but it would make sense if Barry was on the spectrum.
As a guy with Asperger's, I can say that Barry is probably the most accurate representation of high-functioning autism (comorbid with PTSD and other stuff, though) in media that I've ever seen. His flattened affect, poor emotion regulation, the disjointed way he talks. This is it. This is perfection.
Only an autistic person would consider him on the spectrum.
I think you’re a genius.
@safsa awe the other spectrum
@safsa awe LMAO
“thirst is not an emotion”
Wink wink
This is both very entertaining and anxiety inducing xD .... Gosh he's relatable
when you murder hundreds of people😄
Hopefully he’s only relatable in a social aspect and not the whole… murder part
No wonder I connect with Barry so much
A murderer
Well he was a marine…
omg yes i was thinking that for the whole show
I normally hate when people use "autistic" as an insult, but after watching this, I think I can really see Barry being inside the spectrum.
shut up you're autistic
except that he's not
I kinda hate how people have to be so quick to throw a label on someone just because they match their preconceptions for how that label should be portrayed.
@dracos24 it's almost as if the people who actually are autistic, see similarities between them and the characters they're labeling. It's literally not hurting anyone.
@@dracos24Barry’s a character, if people want to have a little headcanon about him being autistic, they can. It would be different if people were labeling the actor Bill as autistic. That’s not really okay because we don’t know him or how his brain works. But Barry is just a fictional character
I sort of problematically assumed so bc he doesn’t ever really laugh, joke, get jokes, when others are sad he doesn’t really process it well, or fully aware of his surroundings (like when ppl react to Ryan’s death, not understanding the priest piece, Sally crying) and is so serious about everything all the time
not to say that autistics are sociopaths i know a lot of them and have worked with a lot of them and they are often great people, but a lot of those traits apply yo socio/psychopaths which is a more accurate diagnosis for barry imo
I think it has more to do with ptsd and time spent in the military have similar presentations to autism
Well, he’s a murderer… so
The part where he didn’t know how to react to Ryan’s death seemed more like a joke on Barry not being surprised by that fact, then remembering he should be surprised and upset about it. But I can see how it is interpreted as him not understanding how to feel.
I’m on the spectrum and I immediately knew Barry was too, he’s so well written and acted, he has a lot of little subtle autistic mannerisms that I have myself and it was nice being able to relate to details like that
adding onto this!
i've noticed that barry stims a lot throughout the show, usually in the form of leg bouncing, finger tapping/hand shaking etc, and often after remembering/experiencing something traumatic or generally overwhelming. (5:18 is a good example)
However I'm not sure whether or not it's a conscious character choice, as bill also does a lot of the same things* and might've just... added them in without really realising it.
* also, this is not me implying that bill himself is autistic (because, of course, NTs stim too and stims are often similar to anxious fidgeting which iirc bill has talked about on a few occasions)
The hand-shaking you timestamped came from one of Bill's daughters. He said in an interview that when she was younger and about to be unhappy, she began shaking her hands like that.
You ever heard of AD/HD? Not everything is fucking autism these day. Also that Neuro Typical shit you gen z'ers always talk about is annoying as fuck. i'M nOt nEuRo-tYpIcAl! Just shut up please for everyone's sake just shut up.
I stim too. I have adhd.
and in the season 3 episode 2 when barry yells at sally, he starts to hit himself on the head, it can be viewed as consequences of his ptds and high anxiety level, but it's kinda reminds me of an autistic meltdown, but i might be mistaken 👀
Bill Hader does have anxiety disorders and panic attacks. He had a handful on the set of Saturday Night Live, and even one in the middle of a live sketch which Lorne Michaels and the crew were essentially forced to pretend it was part of the sketch while Jason Sudekis got Bill off-stage. A lot of this stemmed from how he never really wanted to do live sketch comedy and always wanted to be a more methodical writer-director, but you sometimes have to spend some time in one part of the entertainment industry you might not care for that much in order to get to where you really want to be, and how part of the initial idea behind Barry was reflecting Bill's feelings of being really good at something that was actually really bad for his mental health to keep doing. Some of Barry's most volatile outbursts, like the one at the end of Season 3, required Bill to essentially force himself to have a real anxiety attack in order to make it feel as real as possible. Autism and anxiety do often cone together, as someone with both but generally identifying more with the autistic part. I guess it's kind of like how Sterling Archer is often presented as autistic-coded, although Barry tends to be a lot more emotionally raw than Archer, but I think the comparison still works.
Sally kinda sucks with helping Barry, doesn’t she?
Shes clearly a narcissist. Shes happy for others only when the good things are happening to her too and even then it seems superficial. She almost exposed herself when Barry went to on to audition for a part when she was clearly upset he got the big gig before her even tho she thinks shes best actress in the whole class. You even saw how she switched her emotions to Barry. Its like she didnt even recognise what he did for her. A young girl was able to shift her opinion easily. A ticking time bomb living in her bubble where she is nr.1
her arc in season 3 was great, somehow i still sympathised with her at times (the scene after barry yelled at her, she started freaking out making sure barry wouldn't hurt her - making food and replacing the controller - broke my heart), sarah goldberg is an amazing actress, bill hader is 10/10 too 😌
@@siezgrywam she's such a hypocrite about it tho and was so selfish at the start of the series
@@bhayat911 Well yeah. People are selfish. Barry is selfish. He kills people who found him out instead of owning up. People have bad annoying character traits. Sally spent years surviving in an abusive household, a lot of her behaviour is not only human but completely justified in that context as well. Of course she looks out for herself first, no one else will do it for her
She's a shitty, manipulative person overall, a narcissist who hides behind her perceived victimhood while she snipes other people.
It’s funny to put these scenes into the context of him being in the spectrum but most of the instances are Barry trying to act normal while either trying to hide how he feels or what he knows (ie ryans death was known to him when everyone found out but it really hit him once he was in the same room with ryan’s father, or after he had killed a fellow marine but couldn’t tell anyone) or it’s him fitting in to a situation that isn’t really him (ie him at the bar when he just met the acting students, or at the party trying to impress sally) also the scene where’s he’s drunk at the party he was more or less talking like a marine, and an infantry marine at that.
I feel like a lot of his social obliviousness is also there for comedy value. So he doesn’t respond naturally and that’s what makes the show funny a lot of the time.
I think he's just introverted. He just seems like that when surrounded by extroverted performers.
the one that gets me is that he calls Sally his GF after sleeping with her once
I read the title of this video and thought "wtf, Barry's AuTiStiC"
It's fit's TOO well for it to be coincidental.
I'd be 100% up for them confirming it in the show, it wouldn't change a lot of the story, he still crosses the line and seemingly has other psychological problems. but it would humanize him even further, and in a way it could make his story also serve as an example of people in the spectrum who don't get any level of therapy/treatment and instead get emotionally taken advantage of.
Hit the nail on the head.
Just a sociopath
@@hannibalburgers477 Even if it was as simple as that, sociopathy is still a real thing that people struggle with, it's not good to associate real anti-social disorder as evil or bad, it's a mental disorder and people people with it get treated. And I'd say this last season is doing plenty to show the complexity of Barry's situation by also showing just how destructive and selfish the people around him have also been.(you can argue Barry 'corrupted' them, but i argue you can see their selfish and cold traits early from season 1, especially on a 2nd watch.)
It's posible he also has anti-social disorder and Autism, _and_ PTSD, paired with a bad upbringing.(his male parental figures have both seemingly enforced the role of a soldier ever since little, and the first time he killed he was heavily praised in the military).
I'm not saying he should be absolved of all the bad stuff he has done, he is not inocent, he still needs accountability. I'm saying that 99% of his crimes are not rooted in the traditional sense of "evil Hollywood sociopath killer", perhaps he reaches that point this season- he may reach a breaking point, but so far, he's a character that most other characters didn't care to really understand (that Cousineau scene were he enacts Barry's story and pretends to be Barry is kind of telling, he gives Barry what I'd describe as a very 'traditional' rendition of what mentally handicapped people would be portrayed/mocked as by people, i digress-), has been used as a killing Maschine by others, or a prop for fame/money, and he'd be better off in a good mental institution were they'd actually treat and diagnose him rather then in a prison.
We need a updated version of this
yes yes yes I was legit thinking this all throughout the show omg
6:51 he is so me
Beautiful, thank you
why does the audio sound like I'm on a phone call
That’s… one way to think about it lmaooo
The painful scenes 😭
Thirst is actually an emotion
I think it's him having ASPD
2:28 check. Let's get this shit over with.
Ptsd? =parent teacher conference
is bill hader autistic? haven't seen anyone otherwise allistic stage this awkwardness THIS WELL.
where u at right now ? :D
Makes sense& no doubt there’s as many autistic emergency workers on the higher functioning end of the spectrum who save lives too
Wait. Am I autistic?
Possibly, everyone's at least a lil on the spectrum
@@fredley33 I mean that is the definition of a spectrum - everyone is on it.
@@fredley33 lmao the "everyone's a little [insert condition that doesn't occur to everyone]" narrative
Spectrum implies there could be a theoretical limit in either direction., meaning someone could potentially have zero of these qualities. However, the actual explanation is that it encompasses everyone who is thought to have the condition, not the general population as a whole. Being on the spectrum doesn’t mean everyone is on the spectrum;Rather, it means autism has varying degrees of severity that make it difficult to neatly categorize.
@@andrewnibbi nope....it means there's a wide umbrella that covers a bunch of symptoms...ppl who experience these symptoms and the subsequent struggles and obstacles....and let's not forget the Venn diagram of how neurodivergent conditions share some criteria or another with each other
same
wait…
Ok I’m still waiting
You're so right and you should say it
The tone deaf moments are so awkward
6:53 I do that thing that means I am autistic?
This title seems in bad taste. These behaviors aren't supposed to code Barry as autistic, they're supposed to indicate his psychopathy. Sure, in isolation, they could be associated with either, but as a whole character, Barry is not representative of people with ASD, but people with ASPD.
ye this is wild IMO
he was literally confirmed autistic in season 4 episode 3
@@user-xg2tj4qx9h no. I don't identify with Barry at all. And it concerns me that people here do. Calling this character "iconic" representation is like the exact opposite of what the creators were going for.
Thanks for the baseless series of assumptions about my identity though, that was hilar
@@anna-rw6dl How is the narcissistic Fuches comparing himself to Tom Cruise "literal confirmation" of... anything at all?
@@user-xg2tj4qx9h the video isn't called "Barry being relatable for 10 minutes." If the character weren't somewhat relatable no one would watch the show. My objection is to the hundreds of commenters saying a character that constantly lies, socially manipulates, and has basically zero empathy or specialized interest is a "canon" "autistic icon."
shit.
Interesting, I only took him as a socio who is socially awkward as fuck. With anger issues. But now, I can see it a bit.
the fact i relate to so much of this makes me think im actually autistic which is very possible
I wish people would stop trying to make serial killers relatable when the point of the show is to tell you that hes not relatable.
Whys Sally so obsessed with Barry? I don't get it.
She's not, she's just the love interest, Barry falls in love with her because she represents a "normal" woman away from the life of a criminal, and Sally clearly likes him when he's not obviously acting too off, and makes it pretty clear that she doesn't like him doing things like thinking that not letting other men talk to her makes him a cooler and tougher boyfriend. And it only gets worse from there in the later seasons because they both get a lot worse at hiding their issues. Girl being nice and sweet to almost-boyfriend-like-guy when he's not being too difficult =/= girl obsessing over guy.
She's not, she likes the attention he gives her
A lot of the characters especially in S3 and some parts of S4 basically say it’s because Barry treats her like a star which is the only thing she’s ever wanted. She kisses and sleeps with Barry in the first season because he says “you’re one of the best actresses I’ve ever seen”
I don’t think that’s the case here
That's the beauty of it....you the viewer is left to believe and think whatever the hell you want from this character... you're as right as anyone else's interpretation
these are the parts where barry is an uncaring sociopath
As someone who was misdiagnosed with autism, and had to fight to get it removed from my record to even have a chance of being accepted into normal society, Not everyone who is weird or does not fit the societal norm is autistic. please stop using autism as a catch all for "quirky behavior." Autism is a mental disability.
Ok well as someone who has been correctly diagnosed with autism for years, I know all about how autistic people are mistreated. I am very aware that we are mentally disabled. I find it insulting that you would call autistic traits “quirky behavior”.
Wowzers. The amount of hatred toward autistic people in the OP comment is upsetting.
Many many autistic people are accepted and thrive in society. Maybe not by people like Jerma, but you know... By good people.
@@comedypoison7248 You invalidate the actual struggles of autism by comparing film and movie characters who are a little 'weird' to actual autistic people.
@@lisavandenhoven5672 Way to miss the point of my comment lol
@@GarySiniseOfficial I did not miss it. I just did not address it. I was instead focused on the attitude your comment betrayed.
You stated that you had to fight your autism diagnosis to have some sort of chance of acceptance. You implied that having autism was some sort of terrible thing, and being diagnosed was somehow damaging.
I vehemently disagree. Many people find being diagnosed to be affirming. These same people often identify with fictional characters who, while not be diagnosed as part of their canon, are autisticly coded in their writing (e.g. Sheldon Cooper, Abed Nadir).
Noticing and relating to autisticly coded characters is a positive thing. Your opposition to it, and your disgust with your own diagnosis betrays your low and narrow opinion of autistic people.
god it's so fucking cringe seeing stuff like "omg this antagonist is so on the spectrum" 🥺🥺🥺
Why?
@@danmentorproductions I'd like to say partially because it shrugs off toxic behaviours as just "haha, neurodivergent! ^w^" but also because this is clearly not a character study at the very least focused on someone who's neurodivergent. It's a character study on a guy who's still trying to pretend he's a good person after doing all of these horrible things.
I won't dismiss the idea of a convincing villain who has focuses on his neurodivergence, but as a whole this just feels distasteful and almost a bit like infantilising a man who's in his 40's.
Ehhh I definitely see where you’re coming from, but I really don’t think that’s the case. No one here seems to be excusing his actions because they headcanon him as autistic, it’s mostly just autistic people saying “hey he does some things I do” and drawing this theory from that observation. You don’t have to excuse a characters actions to create headcanons for them, nor do you have to excuse their actions to enjoy them. Saying that Barry might be autistic is in no way justifying him also being a bad person, those two things aren’t connected.
@@dirtytoilet Your perception of autistic people sounds infantilizing. I think the problem lies with you.
@@kazzoey9164 the problem is that an autistic person would never do the things Barry does.
Except that he's not one and make such assumptions for cheap laughs is NOT cool. Why couldn't you just make compilations without bringing specturm or disorders or anything like that in the mix? Smh
cringe
He doesn't dance, but he wants to dance with you. Giggity.
cringe title, homie.
You realize this guy is a actual murderer right. A psychopath. It’s a good show and a well written character but he’s not an “icon”
WHAT NO WAY I HAD NO IDEA
Didn't you strangle someone
Ground breaking revelation 😧
well thats why Michael hates you
I didn't realise that Toby my b
If you're self diagnosed you are AAAAAAAHHHH