"Twenty years ago,I had to prove my loyalty and I lost a son,now my loyalty is to my FAMILY and I WILL BE DAMNED,if I lose another". I got so emotional on how Ieyasu prevented Hidetada's suicide
netflix is not very good at historical movies i think HBO is better on pulling this off.. netflix might end up putting black men as japanese daimyus :D
Wonderful documentary! The cast could have spoken traditional Japanese with English subtitles but nonetheless the lines were spoken clearly and well plus the acting was good.
I recorded this on the TV in the UK to a DVD when it came out and it's 59 minutes. I don't know every cut in this version but I know at 10 minutes in just before the ninja comes there is a 2 minute scene with a Noh performance that is cut from this which is 2 minutes long. The title card is also different, saying 'Shogun - Heroes & Villains' instead. Perhaps they took 10 minutes out of it for the worldwide to fit in commercials, whereas in the UK there's no commercials on the BBC.
This documentary has better and bigger battle scene than Taiga dramas, which are possibly the best historical television series Japanese have made. Good job, Brits!
Thanks for uploading this documentary, its perfect rendition and summary of Japanese history is in a class of its own. I watched this dozens of times, not once did I feel bored. Kudos to BBC!
NHK did a 50 really 50 part series on nobunaga. i could not stop watching. i speak japanese but the subs were pretty good. born and living in japan about 17 years total, i love this period of history and never get enough. everyone who has a chance to visit japan should do so. i think it is the most civilized society on the planet BUT study about japan and it's history. it would make your visit much more enjoyable
ieyasu really fed up and pissed due to his early years as a political hostage (he was matsudaira as his old family name) from oda's until serving toyotomi. the battle of sekigahara became his gamble to eliminate the links of the oda's from toyotomi's and ishida's loyalist.
There are at least two scenes missing in this upload. The first is when Ieyasu triggers the anger of the council, leading to his assassination attempt. The second is the one Mitsunari convinces Hideaki to turn against Ieyasu, leading to the fall of the Fusimi castle. Good upload though.
Shogun 2 brought me here as well :) The Total War series are indeed unique in the sense of their power to ignite thirst for knowledge of events that marked the world. Someone might say that PC games are a waste of time...well Creative Assembly sure prooved otherwise.
Fairly accurate, outstanding production values. The bogu (armor), and especially the kabuto (helmet) for Tokugawa Ieyasu and Ii Naomasa are faithful to the surviving armor of these two. Only minor criticisms. The narrator pronounced the "gun" in "shogun" as in the English "handgun" while it is closer to the vowels in "moon." Also, BBC used Himeji Castle instead of Fushimi. Don't know why: Fushimi, or its modern ferro-concrete reconstruction, is extant.
I was also confused about showing Himeji Castle for Fushimi Castle... lol. It actually would've been nice for Fushimi Castle's reproduction to get some love here since it's been forgotten about since closing in 2003.
I love how the makers of this thought the viewers would be interested in 16th century Japan, just not interested enough to read subtitles. Honestly, so weird in English; retainers in eboshi hats and kimono with American accents! 😂
The castle at 2:28 is most likely Himeiji Castle, not Fushimi, since Fushimi Castle had black roofing and red trim, whereas Himeiji Castle looks exactly like the one featured in this shot.
You haven't got to like these guys, hell, you don't need to like Japan per say. You are compelled to respect their strength, dedication and sacrifice however. That much is undeniable.
I think Oda Nobunaga is more comparable to Caesar, since both were highly accomplished military generals, that obtained a lot of power, only to be backstabbed when both were about to consolidate their gains. Augustus is more like Tokugawa.
In Caesar's war against Vengitorix who had a more warriors than Caesar, it was a waiting game. Vengetorix' got tired of waiting and acted first and was defeated. Got the simile?
NINJADE both nobunaga and tokugawa are close. As nobunaga even refer tokugawa as his brother even though its a childhood friend. I don't find it surprising if nobunaga has the same mindset as tokugawa. But i think tokugawa is calmer and more patience.
When I watched the intro, I was thinking "Huh, they mispronounced Oda Nobunaga". Ieyasu was standing on the shoulders of giants. He had some great accomplishments, of course, but that description describes Oda Nobunaga a lot better than Tokugawa Ieyasu. He was the one that did most of the unifying, anyway. :)
There were the knights in medieval Japan. The most greatest and deadliest fighting force that ever lived. The elite warrior class whom held to raise the power for more than 700 years. Dedicated to battle and honor, and to prove loyalty to the death. Over decades, the country has engaged in the bloodiest civil war for the rights to become the shogun, supreme ruler of all Japan. Severe head collection, treacherous clan rivalries, and fighting sword techniques could bring the Dark Ages to the samurai warfare. But only one man, who is intelligent and ambitious as Leonidas and King Author, can have experience of battle for supremacy to the quick end by providing the most important military decisions that ever made. His name was Tokugawa Ieyasu. His dream is to unite all Japan, and to become the ultimate shogun.
"Get some makeup. Find a nice man". In Japan of the times that was a nasty insult. Having same-sex relations was commonplace in the bushi class but implying that an older man preferred to be submissive was insulting.
Comparing Ieyasu to Caesar? That is a total misunderstanding of Japanese history. Julius Caesar can only be compared as a rare combination of Nobunaga and Hideyoshi. Ieyasu may be compared Augustus. But there are major differences. Time and places are what shape a man.
Where the hell was: 1. Otani Yoshitsugu 2. Honda Tadakatsu 3. Shima Sakon 4. Kato Kiyomasa (ya know, the one ACTUALLY leading the attack against Mitsunari when he fled to Ieyasu?) Also would it have killed them to actually namedrop Nobunaga instead of vagueing about him?
Where was Miyamoto Musashi ? it's a 30 yr story wrapped up in a 49min documentary. I'm sure there's lots that wouldn't have killed them (unless they were under orders of the Shogun himself to make this documentary) that they didn't portray in this documentary.
It's BS that Ieyasu, that cautious and wily old fox left a few hundred men in his rear with his old friend due to oversight. It's been said they parted knowing they'd never meet again. He had left that bait there so that Ishida Mitsunari would leave Osaka Castle.
Why is it that in EVERY battle in which Samurai are present (and I'm using All of the Akira Kurusawa films, Shogun Total War I & II, The Last Samurai, etc as references) that Samurai Lords are always so BAD ASS when they're angry?
I remember watching this one movie on TV I do not know the name of the movie but I do remember it was something that had to do with a samurai warrior transported through time to Los Angeles in the 20th century this homeless man became friends with a samurai warrior took him to his other friends Japanese restaurant this Japanese restaurant owner caught every other word because the Japanese samurai warrior spoke A Dialect that Has Not Been spoken in over 300 years Does Anybody Remember this movie I only watched part of it on TBS before I had to go to work ?
There are a famous HAIKU characterize the differences of three warlords NOBUNAGA, HIDEYOSHI, and IEYASU who helped put an end to the Warring States period in the sixteenth century. What would each of them do if a cuckoo refused to sing for him? NOBUNAGA 「鳴かぬなら、殺してしまえ ホトトギス」 Kill it. HIDEYOSHI 「鳴かぬなら、鳴かせてみせよう ホトトギス」 I'll try to make it sing. IEYASU 「鳴かぬなら、鳴くまで待とう ホトトギス」 Would wait for it to sing.
@ TheMastercyric- Thanks for sharing this great docu! I thought it was well done, though I am no expert on Japanese history. Is this story the basis of James Clavell's Shogun? It seems very similar to me.
"Twenty years ago,I had to prove my loyalty and I lost a son,now my loyalty is to my FAMILY and I WILL BE DAMNED,if I lose another".
I got so emotional on how Ieyasu prevented Hidetada's suicide
This show is like a perfect blend of movie and documentary.
It’s called a docu-drama. There was another series called Barbarians Rising.
I don't think I have ever seen a BBC documentary that I didn't like! Simply the best!
Aryanaaa u said bbc hahahaha
MY LORD! A GLORIOUS VICTORY WILL SOON BE YOURS!
The soon is to short. It needs to be SOOOOON BE YOURS
@@X3105i men of culture
'' Go retire in your castle...get that makeup.. find a nice man.. '' Tokugawa Ieyasu is a savage lol.
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🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Agreed They said he was wise. maybe after he became a shogun he became a fashionista? XD
lol
When the BBC is at its best is when they do history well.
WHEN THEY DO THEIR VERSION OF HISTORY!
I hear they are re making this for 2019 with an all black cast! And lesbians.
It's sad when CA does a more accurate version of history than a documentary. Very, very sad. Gallic 'head hurlers' in Rome 1 sad.
So when will Netflix gonna pick up on this and make an epic saga about japan's imperial and shogunate history, the way they did like Marco Polo.
I rather they don't , they will mostly ruin the narrative and make it all about how gay people and trans were persecuted
netflix is not very good at historical movies i think HBO is better on pulling this off.. netflix might end up putting black men as japanese daimyus :D
@@arustyitalianhairyasscheek5305 Damn you for being so very, very correct in that prediction.
Well, they did, its not very good!
I come from the future... it sucked.
y'all didn't know us asians well enough, we spoke english back then, we also spoke 600 other languages. lol
Wonderful documentary! The cast could have spoken traditional Japanese with English subtitles but nonetheless the lines were spoken clearly and well plus the acting was good.
I recorded this on the TV in the UK to a DVD when it came out and it's 59 minutes. I don't know every cut in this version but I know at 10 minutes in just before the ninja comes there is a 2 minute scene with a Noh performance that is cut from this which is 2 minutes long. The title card is also different, saying 'Shogun - Heroes & Villains' instead. Perhaps they took 10 minutes out of it for the worldwide to fit in commercials, whereas in the UK there's no commercials on the BBC.
This documentary has better and bigger battle scene than Taiga dramas, which are possibly the best historical television series Japanese have made. Good job, Brits!
Not true. NHK makes way superior scenes, movies, and dramas
@@jhca4671 yeah I've seen some really good Taiga drama
Sanada maru was good
Aoi Tokugawa Sandai had the best Sekigahara, better than the recent movie, even.
Hironobu Kanagawa is really handsome! Loved watching him in this. His portrayal of Mitsunari is outstanding!
Thanks for uploading this documentary, its perfect rendition and summary of Japanese history is in a class of its own. I watched this dozens of times, not once did I feel bored. Kudos to BBC!
This could be the new Game of Thrones
They must have a lot of takes. Throughout most of the entire doc, Ieyasu seems like he's ready to burst out laughing.
These shows were so good. I highly recommend you watch them all.
I bet it's a huge struggle to find employment as a ninja whenever the assassination and espionage demand goes into a gulley.
Write books, go on a speaking tour, start a consulting business for kabuki?
You'd still make a killing!
Worse for the samurai when the Waring states era ended.
Ninja didn't exist
NHK did a 50 really 50 part series on nobunaga. i could not stop watching. i speak japanese but the subs were pretty good. born and living in japan about 17 years total, i love this period of history and never get enough. everyone who has a chance to visit japan should do so. i think it is the most civilized society on the planet BUT study about japan and it's history. it would make your visit much more enjoyable
Damn that ieyasu was badass, he even spoke english n shit.
Well done!!!!!!👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻totally interesting and absorbing. Soldiers uniforms also true to history. Kudos.
Love Japan history ...
So you love what they did in 1940's
Excellent doc. Good watch before playing the Samurai Battles boardgame.
I love this documentary thanks TheMastercyric upload more please
one of the best documentations I ever saw
Imagine the Heavy Winged Hussars and the Japanese Professional Samurai Allies, working together. I love Japan much respect from Poland!
The new Shogun series is so badass
"loyal to the death" except for the times where they weren't loyal.
AREN'T WE ALL
loyal enough to massacre 1million in Manchuria
L Allen bullshit
Best episode ever!
ieyasu really fed up and pissed due to his early years as a political hostage (he was matsudaira as his old family name) from oda's until serving toyotomi.
the battle of sekigahara became his gamble to eliminate the links of the oda's from toyotomi's and ishida's loyalist.
I'm just amazed they spoke such good English back then
lolol
The actors are American born probably 3rd generation Japanese who grew up in the US
I know, its amazing hahaha. I mean you'd think they'd have been speaking Japanese. Who knew? :P
Yes, much like aliens in Star Trek. They even have American accents !
Just like the Romans in Gladiator. They spoke also great English.
There are at least two scenes missing in this upload. The first is when Ieyasu triggers the anger of the council, leading to his assassination attempt. The second is the one Mitsunari convinces Hideaki to turn against Ieyasu, leading to the fall of the Fusimi castle. Good upload though.
OUR MEN ARE RUNNING FROM THE BATTLEFIELD! SHAMEFUR DISPRAY!
Phalantrix i lol'd
Shogun 2 brought me here as well :) The Total War series are indeed unique in the sense of their power to ignite thirst for knowledge of events that marked the world. Someone might say that PC games are a waste of time...well Creative Assembly sure prooved otherwise.
me too
You wonderful person you lol
:)) who still play shogun 2 in 2017 ?
Fairly accurate, outstanding production values. The bogu (armor), and especially the kabuto (helmet) for Tokugawa Ieyasu and Ii Naomasa are faithful to the surviving armor of these two. Only minor criticisms. The narrator pronounced the "gun" in "shogun" as in the English "handgun" while it is closer to the vowels in "moon." Also, BBC used Himeji Castle instead of Fushimi. Don't know why: Fushimi, or its modern ferro-concrete reconstruction, is extant.
Everyone pronounce Shogun as Sho+gun in the western countries.
I was also confused about showing Himeji Castle for Fushimi Castle... lol.
It actually would've been nice for Fushimi Castle's reproduction to get some love here since it's been forgotten about since closing in 2003.
Mega Hamartolos see that is how you give criticism. Much respect.
Barcelona - I bet your one of those dicks that pronounce it Barthelona.
how did you determine that it wis accurate
Mototada's last words inspired me...fight to the end,even if the odds are against me
Love how this was presented, a movie doc
Dayum Shogun even the word brings power.
This is awesome!! Thanks you sir!
.."among flower..cherry blossom..among men..the samurai.."
seems all the Japanese warlords and bureaucrats have very impressive English skill in the era of shogun
Just like cowboys spoke impressive Italian for the 1800s.
Our family salutes the shogun & family loyalty
Excellent attention to historical detail. At 25:06, Ieyasu is shown wearing the Tokugawa mon.
Thank you for this video... :)
Great documentary great acting
I love how the makers of this thought the viewers would be interested in 16th century Japan, just not interested enough to read subtitles. Honestly, so weird in English; retainers in eboshi hats and kimono with American accents! 😂
Also the absolute lack of honorifics. I'm so used to people always attaching -dono or -sama in taiga dramas, seeing them talk so casually is weird.
I like this documentary it shows more than it explains and i like that
Japan is the cleanest and best people in the world
Ieyasu took a massive gamble, and won. Sometimes you have to leave things to chance, even if the negative result could be catastrophic.
The castle at 2:28 is most likely Himeiji Castle, not Fushimi, since Fushimi Castle had black roofing and red trim, whereas Himeiji Castle looks exactly like the one featured in this shot.
Prior to the 2015 restoration which made all the castle walls white once again
I enjoyed this. And by the look of the "likes" so did most watchers.
Take it this after Nobunaga did all the hard work.
Ieyasu ate the mochi :D
yep we all spoke engrish back in the days...
This was made my Brits to educate brits you fool. The common English speaker doesn't want to read a subtitled movie.
@@mathew4942 wooooooosh
Throughout the history people killed countless people for power; but soon realised no power can help them against death.
Live and let live.
If you want to experience the events in game form get games from samurai warriors, nobunagas ambition and kessen series, kessen 2 is set in china
Dudes in this doc, spoke better English than me. lololol
You never know, it might be dubbed. But English is like a second language in Japan.
+Ann Boylen
Yeah, I know they do learn. But as far as I know, I spoke to a chick over skype before. She can't really speak well.
Oh wow, probably a nationalist lol.
Ann Boylen
lol, maybe.
I'm a nut for Japanese culture and history, except for their cuisine.
great documentary!
The way of the warrior is a complex and difficult code of conduct with many loyalties to uphold but also to betray.
めちゃくちゃ本格的やんけ。
the characters talking in english kills it. they shouldve had them talk in japanese and subtitled it
I wish this was a 10 part series
I saw nobushi in the thumbnail .
@The Good Will that show was "wonderpets"....
The Good Will I think I saw you in Kingdom of Heaven. What are you doing in Samurai world.
I sāw čuñtß
fucking tom and jerry
You haven't got to like these guys, hell, you don't need to like Japan per say. You are compelled to respect their strength, dedication and sacrifice however. That much is undeniable.
I Ren respect 👊
m'lord a grorious victory wirr soun bee yours!!
At which time in the video does the quote appear?
16:03 Put some ice on that burn, bruh xD
I think Oda Nobunaga is more comparable to Caesar, since both were highly accomplished military generals, that obtained a lot of power, only to be backstabbed when both were about to consolidate their gains. Augustus is more like Tokugawa.
In Caesar's war against Vengitorix who had a more warriors than Caesar, it was a waiting game. Vengetorix' got tired of waiting and acted first and was defeated. Got the simile?
NINJADE both nobunaga and tokugawa are close. As nobunaga even refer tokugawa as his brother even though its a childhood friend. I don't find it surprising if nobunaga has the same mindset as tokugawa. But i think tokugawa is calmer and more patience.
When I watched the intro, I was thinking "Huh, they mispronounced Oda Nobunaga". Ieyasu was standing on the shoulders of giants. He had some great accomplishments, of course, but that description describes Oda Nobunaga a lot better than Tokugawa Ieyasu. He was the one that did most of the unifying, anyway. :)
NINJADE yes he was bisexual. And he forced himself on a straight male.
Sorry, but not even close.
There were the knights in medieval Japan. The most greatest and deadliest fighting force that ever lived. The elite warrior class whom held to raise the power for more than 700 years. Dedicated to battle and honor, and to prove loyalty to the death. Over decades, the country has engaged in the bloodiest civil war for the rights to become the shogun, supreme ruler of all Japan. Severe head collection, treacherous clan rivalries, and fighting sword techniques could bring the Dark Ages to the samurai warfare. But only one man, who is intelligent and ambitious as Leonidas and King Author, can have experience of battle for supremacy to the quick end by providing the most important military decisions that ever made. His name was Tokugawa Ieyasu. His dream is to unite all Japan, and to become the ultimate shogun.
Dirty weab
"Get some makeup. Find a nice man". In Japan of the times that was a nasty insult. Having same-sex relations was commonplace in the bushi class but implying that an older man preferred to be submissive was insulting.
Comparing Ieyasu to Caesar? That is a total misunderstanding of Japanese history. Julius Caesar can only be compared as a rare combination of Nobunaga and Hideyoshi. Ieyasu may be compared Augustus. But there are major differences. Time and places are what shape a man.
Hideaki Kobayakawa, Tokugawa Matsudaira Motoyeasu, Torii Mototada, Toyotomi Hideyoshi Hideyori, Li Naomasa, Tadakatsu Honda, Tadaoki Hosokawa, Tadayoshi Matsudaira, Nagamasa Kuroda, Mitsunari Ishida and Tokugawa Matsudaira Hidetada.
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Very nice Document Film...
very sad and selfish world, I particularly feel sorry for Hideaki
KB GIREL who?!
lol. I turn on the cc and it's funny. it says Japan is in mental civil war. lol
Loyalty is disloyalty to humanity
Got it! nice documentary .
Where the hell was: 1. Otani Yoshitsugu 2. Honda Tadakatsu 3. Shima Sakon 4. Kato Kiyomasa (ya know, the one ACTUALLY leading the attack against Mitsunari when he fled to Ieyasu?)
Also would it have killed them to actually namedrop Nobunaga instead of vagueing about him?
Where was Miyamoto Musashi ? it's a 30 yr story wrapped up in a 49min documentary. I'm sure there's lots that wouldn't have killed them (unless they were under orders of the Shogun himself to make this documentary) that they didn't portray in this documentary.
The Shogun may have had the power, but the Emperor was the soul of the nation. I can't believe he wasn't mentioned here.
Jake4595 it was actually until after ww2 a emperor decided to use their power as being good ambassadors
C Pegg The Emperor was a figurehead much like the Queen of England.
Turn on the CC, hilarious.
ur right xD
naughty...... yeah
yes the salmon do have a strict code.... ha ha priceless!
ahahhahah wtf (XD
yeah
Ieyasu's succesor, Hidetada, looks like a japanese version of Ryan Reynolds, lol.
And I considered BBC a serious channel.
The makers of "Monty Python"? Come on.
I personally think Oda Nobunaga was the strongest and most clever daimyo. If he wasn't betrayed, he would have ruled the county for sure.
It's BS that Ieyasu, that cautious and wily old fox left a few hundred men in his rear with his old friend due to oversight. It's been said they parted knowing they'd never meet again. He had left that bait there so that Ishida Mitsunari would leave Osaka Castle.
0:37 the samurai were good men back in that day
Why is it that in EVERY battle in which Samurai are present (and I'm using All of the Akira Kurusawa films, Shogun Total War I & II, The Last Samurai, etc as references) that Samurai Lords are always so BAD ASS when they're angry?
I remember watching this one movie on TV I do not know the name of the movie but I do remember it was something that had to do with a samurai warrior transported through time to Los Angeles in the 20th century this homeless man became friends with a samurai warrior took him to his other friends Japanese restaurant this Japanese restaurant owner caught every other word because the Japanese samurai warrior spoke A Dialect that Has Not Been spoken in over 300 years Does Anybody Remember this movie I only watched part of it on TBS before I had to go to work ?
This show would have been 100 times better if they let them speak Japanese and have some subtitles.
Zamolxes77 I like that they are speaking English.
But it wouldn't hurt for them to make a 2nd version in Japanese
Atleast they should have let them use their normal english voice.
Why exactly? The language adds nothing
jb76489 the language adds the culture itself, it adds everything!!
Zamolxes77 Language adds nothing to this.The most important is that audience understands.
Wow, this shit is epic! Ieyasu is a straight badass! I actually own one of Dr. Turnbill's books on the warriors of Middle Ages Japan.
I didn't know that they spoke English in 16th century Japan. That must have been quite an advantage for trading those muskets with the English.
Good documentary
He's good at smooth talk
ps the sekigahara battle scenes and others were taken from the NHK series
"Hidehorry, Mitsunarry, I'm sorry"
There are a famous HAIKU characterize the differences of three warlords NOBUNAGA, HIDEYOSHI, and IEYASU who helped put an end to the Warring States period in the sixteenth century.
What would each of them do if a cuckoo refused to sing for him?
NOBUNAGA
「鳴かぬなら、殺してしまえ ホトトギス」 Kill it.
HIDEYOSHI
「鳴かぬなら、鳴かせてみせよう ホトトギス」 I'll try to make it sing.
IEYASU
「鳴かぬなら、鳴くまで待とう ホトトギス」 Would wait for it to sing.
great!!!!!
Perfect Engrishu
@ TheMastercyric- Thanks for sharing this great docu! I thought it was well done, though I am no expert on Japanese history. Is this story the basis of James Clavell's Shogun? It seems very similar to me.
i watched this cuz of total war shogun 2
banzai !
It seems like Japan would have had ever lasting peace if the warlords/generals kept to their words about being loyal. Always the quest for power.
total badass
i dont know if japan had a mental civil war and each warlord own private army of salmon xD FYI Tokugawa Iyeasu in english > Talking god yes
Idk what the heck all this talk of fishing and salmon has to do with anything, but it's making me hungry!
Great job
thanks for the English.