@@kmt8528 that's very true, but she NEVER uses a full blade to assist her jumps therefore turning them into a loop. All jumps are bound to have a little bit of pre-rotation but if done correctly, it's toe pick only.
Even in the slow motion replay after the performance, i've seen anna's flat edge lutz. but then they gave her positive GOE as a no problem lutz...RIP ISU
@@phanphuc1929 I said about rereading because positive goe is complex of height, range, axis and musicality of jump. Flat edge is mistake, u r right. So they have already taken from goe
Alyona has been working on her technique and it shows, her Lutz the last couple of seasons was clearly a flutz but now it has more of an outside edge. Her 3F+3T combination looks more stable each time and that triple toe seems to be getting higher each time!
@@spandau4065 It's far from being fixed, most of the time it's flat at best. Her 'outside' edge is really weird, it looks like she's turning her foot inward instead.
Phoebe Chan Lol it's you again, that pathtetic Kihirafan, if you hate these Russian ladies, why you bother watching and commenting their videos? Get out and go watch Rika Kihira's sloppy, childish and mediocre programs ;)
You missed Scherbakova taking off on full blade on flip and lutz as well as turning 1 turn before leaving the ice on her loop combination. By the way, coaster and I I did not cheat that triple toe loop at the end of that combination. You got to be kidding.... Just watch it in regular motion......
That jump combination by Trusova should have gotten a higher GOE in my opinion l, it was so perfect and clean, on time with the music and she had variations with her arms for both the triple lutz and triple toe combination
ok, I love all 3, but the jumping height of sasha and Aliona is better than Anna's. the same applies to the outer thread of the lutz. Sasha and Aliona jump from the outer thread without problems , but anna's lutz is flat. This isn't a criticism, I like anna's skating, but It's not fair that this feature is also not considered
Alenas 3T was not UR. I think you're looking at it wrong, if you look at it one way its UR, but then you notice her ankle would have to be at a weird angle for that view to be right, so focus on her skate, and it will show its well past 3/4 around. Annas full blade is full on, and her flip edge is more outside then her lutz edge.
Anna's technique is horrible... She will struggle with the new rules Sasha got better over the years and her quads are way better then Anna's Alena also got really clean technique!
yeah, kostornaia has such a "good" technique her falls don't even get < when it's visible from space (true call would be downgrade) and her underrotated axels never get called either. fake isu "champion".
@@haploguy ok, first it's not her fault that mistakes don't get called! But her jumps are mostly solid and clean, but now and then everyone underrotates! U have to look at edges and toe pick and air position to tell if someone as good technique, and she does, because she relearned most of her jumps!
@Sofya Fursova compared to the text book examples by the isu Alena has the best technique, it's not an opinion it's just a fact, totally objective, personally it's great what they doing and what they achieve but it's important to really look at what they are doing technically, so that they can be judge fairly :)
I didn't know figure skating well back then, and I had stopped watching the women's side because of the Sotnikova/Kim scandal in Sochi. When I first saw Aliona, she drew me in, and there was something different about her jumps compared to the other Russians. Now I know that she has better technique than Sasha and Anna, which is rare because most Russians I've seen have flutzes (though she goes between narrow outside edges and flutzes sometimes, she only uses her toe pick in her toe assisted jumps compared to her teammates' full blades which makes her jumps more sharp and clean). It's so unfortunate what happened to her in Eteri, I wish her the best with her new coach, really hope that this isn't the last we're gonna see from her
Thanks to the fact that Sasha left Tutberidze to Plushenko, her jumping technique has improved. Plushenko said in an interview that Sasha's jumps were not very good in technique, to put it mildly, it is not clear what Eteri teaches them and why they get high scores.
@@beautybomzh That's very true. Sasha's jumps are better than Anna's with a better outside edge lutz and has somewhat of a toe pick takeoff compared to Anna's full blade, however the massive prerotations are still there. Zhenya's technique was probably one of the worst I've seen even among the Eteri girls, yet the ISU judging lets her get away with it, hence she won her World titles (no hate to her, I love her as a person and her artistry is exceptional). Shoma Uno also prerotates his jumps so much. The judging has to get more consistent and call out wrong edges & cheated takeoffs, not just the Russians, but everyone else too
@@mht4908 Look at Liza Tuktamysheva, aka the Empress, to see a Russian with proper technique and longevity(she’s nearly 26 and still has a triple axel!)
@@makaelaischillin Liza and Aliona probably have the best technique out of all the Russian girls, even though Aliona does have some prerotations, her toe and edge jumps are done properly so it still looks very crisp. I'm gonna miss her in singles, and I'm still sad that covid took away her chance to become a world champion, but I'm excited to see what she can do in pairs. who knows, maybe we'll see a side by side triple lutz/flip or a throw triple axel
@@mht4908her lutz at the French Grand Prix event was so beautiful. Outside edge, pure toe tap assistance, 1/4 prerotation, big height. it rlly was one of her best lutzes, even though the landing was not the best. it’s a pity that she left singles. :(
Anna often takes off with the wrong edge But the GOE always same as Sasha or even higher than Sasha🤷🏻♀️ Can anyone tell me why? That’s rly not fair And the news in our country is all about Anna🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️ never Sasha I can’t understand why people love Anna just because she change her clothes color during the competition. That’s rly not something
Jessica Kuei Where are you from? You say in your country all news are about Anna, not Sasha. But in Russia Anna is not popular such as Sasha and Alena and it's make me sad sometimes, because I love her. But I think she can improve her technic, so I wish her new wins
Eteri still teaching students improper technique and/or how to cheat the jumps to make it look "correct". This is why here skaters have such a short life in the field. Love Kostornaia though
@@teamshcherbakova702 The landing would simply mean a loss of 1-2 GOE bullet points. A slight wavering of the landing edge with everything else good doesn't warrant big deductions.
Roger white, I gree with your commentary, all fans that comment (you, others and me) only we are fans and express opinions, we are not judges or technical specialist. Although somebody fans learn something about rules, jumps, skills, etc, but keep as opinion.
I am a common spectator and enjoy beauty whereas judges look for flaws and calculate scores. Aliona and Anna show beautiful skating while Trusova is a bit more like sporting. I like all of them whatsoever because they are so young, beautiful, and brave ladies successfully practicing a very difficult sport.
@@angieortizurena3327 LOL Mediocrity? I only know this sport will be nothing but a pile of trash if skaters like Bradie Tennell, Rika Kihira, Young You, Gabrielle Daleman, Satoko Miyahara or any other boring, mediocre and worthless skaters are on the top.
@@spandau4065 Rika Kihira is better than all three Russian skaters, at least she has interesting and artistic programmes and proper jump techniques (unlike Alena's flat edge on BOTH lutz and flip). Without the ladies you've mentioned, we're stuck with Danill's egregious choreography and Russian ladies' sloppy artistry, and that's the demise of figure skating.
So ridiculous of you to pause the scene before kostornaia's landing and then saying underrotated and play it, kostornaia spins the left rotation then lands. Though, thanks for noticing anna's edges.
@@WeLoveSkating1 umm.. I think it's an optical illusion. You see the ice is all white so it might seem like that but when she lands she goes way more down... Ice is not a hill isn't it :D
They need to be learn how to jumps with minimal prerotate and how to landing look soft knee bend Trusova jump looks so stiff for entire body and no flow , Alena looks stiff knee action , Anna looks bad posture
Если просмотреть в замедленном повторе всех фигуристов нынешних, предыдущих можно много интересного увидеть. Наши девчонки были лучше и это не устраивает других, в этом дело
I hate how Trusova doesn't point her toe on the landing of the double axel and how Anna doesn't on her 3 flip. I also dislike the kick into the flip jumps from Anna and Alena. Sorry.
Anna is a beautiful figure skater and very plastic, with emotions and all, but her technique is awful. Edges, blades, prerotations, it’s always painful to watch
![VENEZUELA vs. ARGENTINA [1-1] | RESUMEN | ELIMINATORIAS SUDAMERICANAS | FECHA 9](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/SJfoPdeOPCQ/mqdefault.jpg)
![[Chinese+English Subtitles] 4K Alena Kostornaia Алена Косторная GPF FS Colour Edited](/img/1.gif)
Alena uses ONLY her toe pick for her toe assisted jumps and I really appreciate and respect that clean technique 😍
@Lily Collins oh I didn't know that; that makes so much sense!!
but sometimes her toe- picks are still rotating on the ice
@@kmt8528 that's very true, but she NEVER uses a full blade to assist her jumps therefore turning them into a loop. All jumps are bound to have a little bit of pre-rotation but if done correctly, it's toe pick only.
Like yuna...
@@user-xm4vv1em6j Yuna Kim has the best technique. Alena has ok technique. No comparison
Even in the slow motion replay after the performance, i've seen anna's flat edge lutz. but then they gave her positive GOE as a no problem lutz...RIP ISU
but she has a good jump height, range and axis, and is also made to music. I advise you to re-read the rules 😊
L B u are the one who need to reread the rules since when had a flat edge lutz deserve positive goe?
@@phanphuc1929 I said about rereading because positive goe is complex of height, range, axis and musicality of jump. Flat edge is mistake, u r right. So they have already taken from goe
shiri And
the skating is so bad
Alyona has been working on her technique and it shows, her Lutz the last couple of seasons was clearly a flutz but now it has more of an outside edge. Her 3F+3T combination looks more stable each time and that triple toe seems to be getting higher each time!
Alena has huge jumps with great flow, speed and coverage as always, and she has fixed her edge on her lutz.
@@spandau4065 It's far from being fixed, most of the time it's flat at best. Her 'outside' edge is really weird, it looks like she's turning her foot inward instead.
Phoebe Chan Lol it's you again, that pathtetic Kihirafan, if you hate these Russian ladies, why you bother watching and commenting their videos? Get out and go watch Rika Kihira's sloppy, childish and mediocre programs ;)
@@spandau4065 Lmao I love both sasha and anna. I simply think that alena is overhyped.
You missed Scherbakova taking off on full blade on flip and lutz as well as turning 1 turn before leaving the ice on her loop combination. By the way, coaster and I I did not cheat that triple toe loop at the end of that combination. You got to be kidding.... Just watch it in regular motion......
That jump combination by Trusova should have gotten a higher GOE in my opinion l, it was so perfect and clean, on time with the music and she had variations with her arms for both the triple lutz and triple toe combination
Absolutely!
Aliona said she grew a little and had to relearn jumps when training started again. Glad to see she did a clean skate.
ok, I love all 3, but the jumping height of sasha and Aliona is better than Anna's. the same applies to the outer thread of the lutz. Sasha and Aliona jump from the outer thread without problems , but anna's lutz is flat. This isn't a criticism, I like anna's skating, but It's not fair that this feature is also not considered
It is not fair to give a high GOE despite the wrong edge.
Alenas 3T was not UR. I think you're looking at it wrong, if you look at it one way its UR, but then you notice her ankle would have to be at a weird angle for that view to be right, so focus on her skate, and it will show its well past 3/4 around. Annas full blade is full on, and her flip edge is more outside then her lutz edge.
Anna's technique is horrible... She will struggle with the new rules
Sasha got better over the years and her quads are way better then Anna's
Alena also got really clean technique!
yeah, kostornaia has such a "good" technique her falls don't even get < when it's visible from space (true call would be downgrade) and her underrotated axels never get called either. fake isu "champion".
@@haploguy ok, first it's not her fault that mistakes don't get called! But her jumps are mostly solid and clean, but now and then everyone underrotates! U have to look at edges and toe pick and air position to tell if someone as good technique, and she does, because she relearned most of her jumps!
@Sofya Fursova compared to the text book examples by the isu Alena has the best technique, it's not an opinion it's just a fact, totally objective, personally it's great what they doing and what they achieve but it's important to really look at what they are doing technically, so that they can be judge fairly :)
are the new rules going to do anything about the horrible pre-rotations?
@@jenvogue5005 yes also full blade assist, if the judges use the new rules right ;), but the q will make ur a bit more shady I guess...
The edge use of Shcherbakova are all wrong
And underrotated.
@@erastvandoren Wtf? They are all fully rotated. You're straight up lying.
The knee position of that flip entry was very wonky
Wht shcherbakova and trusova got same GOE on 3F? Full blade=clean?
Sandra Brown agree
I didn't know figure skating well back then, and I had stopped watching the women's side because of the Sotnikova/Kim scandal in Sochi. When I first saw Aliona, she drew me in, and there was something different about her jumps compared to the other Russians. Now I know that she has better technique than Sasha and Anna, which is rare because most Russians I've seen have flutzes (though she goes between narrow outside edges and flutzes sometimes, she only uses her toe pick in her toe assisted jumps compared to her teammates' full blades which makes her jumps more sharp and clean). It's so unfortunate what happened to her in Eteri, I wish her the best with her new coach, really hope that this isn't the last we're gonna see from her
Thanks to the fact that Sasha left Tutberidze to Plushenko, her jumping technique has improved. Plushenko said in an interview that Sasha's jumps were not very good in technique, to put it mildly, it is not clear what Eteri teaches them and why they get high scores.
@@beautybomzh That's very true. Sasha's jumps are better than Anna's with a better outside edge lutz and has somewhat of a toe pick takeoff compared to Anna's full blade, however the massive prerotations are still there. Zhenya's technique was probably one of the worst I've seen even among the Eteri girls, yet the ISU judging lets her get away with it, hence she won her World titles (no hate to her, I love her as a person and her artistry is exceptional). Shoma Uno also prerotates his jumps so much. The judging has to get more consistent and call out wrong edges & cheated takeoffs, not just the Russians, but everyone else too
@@mht4908 Look at Liza Tuktamysheva, aka the Empress, to see a Russian with proper technique and longevity(she’s nearly 26 and still has a triple axel!)
@@makaelaischillin Liza and Aliona probably have the best technique out of all the Russian girls, even though Aliona does have some prerotations, her toe and edge jumps are done properly so it still looks very crisp. I'm gonna miss her in singles, and I'm still sad that covid took away her chance to become a world champion, but I'm excited to see what she can do in pairs. who knows, maybe we'll see a side by side triple lutz/flip or a throw triple axel
@@mht4908her lutz at the French Grand Prix event was so beautiful. Outside edge, pure toe tap assistance, 1/4 prerotation, big height. it rlly was one of her best lutzes, even though the landing was not the best. it’s a pity that she left singles. :(
Don't forget to mention the blade assistance on the lutz. It's horrific, terrible technic.
How is trusova flip a plus 3?
Anna often takes off with the wrong edge
But the GOE always same as Sasha or even higher than Sasha🤷🏻♀️
Can anyone tell me why?
That’s rly not fair
And the news in our country is all about Anna🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️ never Sasha
I can’t understand why people love Anna just because she change her clothes color during the competition. That’s rly not something
Actually I’m a fan of 3
But I can’t help that Sasha always wins the third place and Anna always wins the first and second place.
Trusova is rly good😭
Despite Anna’s worser technique i find her jumps way more beautiful than Sasha’s.
Nikita Shaitan You bet. Both of them have strong and weak points
Jessica Kuei Where are you from? You say in your country all news are about Anna, not Sasha. But in Russia Anna is not popular such as Sasha and Alena and it's make me sad sometimes, because I love her. But I think she can improve her technic, so I wish her new wins
Shcherbakova is not on the same level as the Trusova
You should count prerotation too!
yes!
No flow or hight on Shcherbakovas jumps
Eteri still teaching students improper technique and/or how to cheat the jumps to make it look "correct". This is why here skaters have such a short life in the field. Love Kostornaia though
Aliona’s height
Sasha’s strength
Anna’s air position
Plus Aliona only using her toe pick in toe assisted jumps in contrast to most Eteri girls' full blade takeoffs
this music though lol
Anna Shcherbakova’s LUTZ is terrible. Same as FLIP
Yep, its like flutz!!
I admire all comments about technical aspects here... Thank you
Why on earth was Trusova's 3Lz-3T a +1.94? The landing on the 3Lz was so hunched over.
3F+3T is clean. It wasent under rotated or !
It definetely was tbh
Even if it wasn't, it surely didn't deserve those huge GOEs with a landing like that
@@teamshcherbakova702 Compared to Anna's GOE, Alena's landing was more than perfect
@@spandau4065 did I say anything about Anna?
@@teamshcherbakova702 The landing would simply mean a loss of 1-2 GOE bullet points. A slight wavering of the landing edge with everything else good doesn't warrant big deductions.
Gosh that 3A!!
ルッツでトゥを突くとき既に横向きになってるのが気になります。
この時点で1/4回転のプレロテ。
そしてトゥを突いた後空中に飛び上がるまでに1/4回転のプレロテ。
そしてシェルバコワ選手はフルブレード気味に見えます。
来シーズンのルール改正後どのように採点されるのか注目したいと思います。
ルッツジャンプで正しくアウトエッジになっているのはトルソワ選手だけで、後の二人はアウトエッジになっていませんね。それなのに高いGOEが付く不思議な採点。
Correct call on the backend 3F / 3T backend ur for Alena. The hook on landing is visible even in real time.
Please also do the free skate analysis, we need it :)
wow,so many professional judges in the comments section
roger white it so evident that nobody needs to be a professional, only not a rabid blind fan
@@angieortizurena3327 when was the last time you sat in a judge's chair. except at the 7/11 getting your pepsi and doritos, regular or extra hot
Lol!
Roger white, I gree with your commentary, all fans that comment (you, others and me) only we are fans and express opinions, we are not judges or technical specialist.
Although somebody fans learn something about rules, jumps, skills, etc, but keep as opinion.
@@Catalina_Estevez the way i look at is the same way i like music. i really like Alexandra's style.even she is not the best,she is still my favorite
You didn't mention prerrotations...
Even if Anna has unclear edges and a lot of pre-rotation, I think she has the most beautiful movement in and out of her jumps in the video.
Anna's edge is slitly inside and alena's toe is a little bit ur
Иностранцы успокойтесь!!! Лучше наших девчонок вам не быть никогда!!!!
シェルバコワはプレロテ180°でフルブレードでルッツがアテンション。
トゥルソワはプレロテ150°でフルブレードでフリップがアテンション。
コストルナヤはプレロテ120°でルッツは正しいけどフリップがアテンション気味かなって感じ。
Three great little skaters.
They got the order right.
트루빼고는 러츠 제대로뛰는애없음 코스톨 많이나아지긴했지만 딥아웃으로 들어가는게아닌 뱔목꺾어서 어떻게든 아웃으로보이게하는거고 쉐르는 빼박 인이지 아웃으로 가다가 왜 인으로가는지모르겠네 누구도아니고..
Love your vids
Omg sasha!
someone enjoys beauty, and someone is looking for flaws. Who's better?
I am a common spectator and enjoy beauty whereas judges look for flaws and calculate scores. Aliona and Anna show beautiful skating while Trusova is a bit more like sporting. I like all of them whatsoever because they are so young, beautiful, and brave ladies successfully practicing a very difficult sport.
If you’re looking for beauty, watch amateurs, this is an OLIMPIC SPORT and an official competition at a professional level.
Stop glorifying mediocrity
@@angieortizurena3327 LOL Mediocrity? I only know this sport will be nothing but a pile of trash if skaters like Bradie Tennell, Rika Kihira, Young You, Gabrielle Daleman, Satoko Miyahara or any other boring, mediocre and worthless skaters are on the top.
I don't know, but your condescending ass certainly is not better than anyone.
@@spandau4065 Rika Kihira is better than all three Russian skaters, at least she has interesting and artistic programmes and proper jump techniques (unlike Alena's flat edge on BOTH lutz and flip). Without the ladies you've mentioned, we're stuck with Danill's egregious choreography and Russian ladies' sloppy artistry, and that's the demise of figure skating.
Alyona kostornaia FS analisis
So ridiculous of you to pause the scene before kostornaia's landing and then saying underrotated and play it, kostornaia spins the left rotation then lands. Though, thanks for noticing anna's edges.
Toepick was already on the ice 😄
@@WeLoveSkating1 umm.. I think it's an optical illusion. You see the ice is all white so it might seem like that but when she lands she goes way more down... Ice is not a hill isn't it :D
@@WeLoveSkating1 There is also a clear hook and slide on the ice in real time.
@@소소소-k8e Wtf? Of course she was going way lower when she landed, she hunched her back and bended her knees to absorb the shock of landing.
They need to be learn how to jumps with minimal prerotate and how to landing look soft knee bend
Trusova jump looks so stiff for entire body and no flow , Alena looks stiff knee action , Anna looks bad posture
blablablablablabla, haters like you are really pathetic, obviously you are struggling by jealousy, which makes your mouth full of shits LOL.
Chin Nayo LOL you wish
Chin Nayo LOL you wish
Chin Nayo LOL you wish
Anna’s jumps are trash
What i saw.. all of them amazing...
Subjektivity may contribute here
Full-blade, Prerotation ＞180 😊
У Щербаковой самые грязные прыжки
Your analysis is terribly misleading.
Если просмотреть в замедленном повторе всех фигуристов нынешних, предыдущих можно много интересного увидеть. Наши девчонки были лучше и это не устраивает других, в этом дело
I hate how Trusova doesn't point her toe on the landing of the double axel and how Anna doesn't on her 3 flip. I also dislike the kick into the flip jumps from Anna and Alena. Sorry.
Sport judging still so very rigged. All that changed was how they manipulate scores.
nice thumbnail
The edea boots look like ski boots, not pretty.
I honestly think they're prettier, but only in certain styles.
I’m girl and I’m taller than Soma at 10 cm
Their toe-loops are also wrong
Everything was clean. Camera angle.
Alena's Toe was definitely ur
laura calix No, it was within a quarter. Do you not know the rules?
@@evanperilstein5308 Do you not know what a quarter means?
Phoebe Chan Get the fxxk out of here Kihirabot, need I help you to count Rika Kihira's URs? Check your eyes before it's too late
Anna is a beautiful figure skater and very plastic, with emotions and all, but her technique is awful. Edges, blades, prerotations, it’s always painful to watch
What’s the point of all this, remember your Sarah in 2002, so-called “the winner”.
Пишут всякую хрень про наших
Thought: Russian corruption in the sport and disgrace. Nothing more.