Craziest and Most Complex Game So Far | Svidler vs Grischuk | Candidates Tournament 2013. | Round 9
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Follow MprooV on Twitter / mproovapp #agadmator Magnus Carlsen is the sole leader after nine rounds at the FIDE World Chess Candidates’ Tournament. On Monday the Norwegian drew with Vladimir Kramnik (Russia) while co-leader Levon Aronian (Armenia) lost to Boris Gelfand (Israel). Peter Svidler and Alexander Grischuk (both Russia) drew an amazingly complicated game and after 6.5 hours of play Vassily Ivanchuk (Ukraine) scored his first win, against Teimour Radjabov (Azerbaijan).
With the second half of the FIDE World Chess Candidates’ Tournament well under way, the interest in the tournament is growing, both online and at the IET in London. Every day both the number of spectators in the playing hall and journalists in the press room is growing, and many local grandmasters can be seen at the venue. Gawain Jones, Daniel King and Luke McShane have been frequent visitors and on Monday GMs John Nunn, Matthew Sadler, Jon Speelman and Simon Williams came along. They all witnessed another great round in which the big game was world number 2 Vladimir Kramnik against world number 1 Magnus Carlsen.
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Peter Svidler vs Alexander Grischuk
World Championship Candidates (2013), London ENG, rd 9, Mar-25
King's Indian Defense: Saemisch Variation. Normal Defense (E81)
1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 g6 3. Nc3 Bg7 4. e4 d6 5. f3 O-O 6. Be3 c5 7. Nge2 Nc6 8. d5 Ne5 9. Ng3 h5 10. Be2 h4 11. Nf1 e6 12. f4 Nc4 13. Bc4 b5 14. Bb5 ed5 15. e5 de5 16. fe5 Bg4 17. ef6 Bd1 18. fg7 Kg7 19. Bc5 h3 20. Rd1 hg2 21. Rg1 gf1Q 22. Kf1 Qh4 23. Rg2 Rfd8 24. Rd4 Qh5 25. Rf4 d4 26. Bd4 Rd4 27. Rd4 Rb8 28. a4 a6 29. Ba6 Qf3 30. Rf2 Qh1 31. Ke2 Rb2 32. Rd2 Qc1 33. Kd3 Rb6 34. Bc4 Rd6 35. Bd5 Rd7 36. Rf4 f5 37. Rd4 Kh6 38. h4 Rc7 39. Bc4 Qf1 40. Re2 f4 41. Kc2 f3
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0:49 "Feel free to pause the video here and try to figure out- the winning variation for black."
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"If you've found it. Congratulations, you are an excellent photo analyzer and for those who are here to enjoy the show. Black resigned. There are simply no moves left to play." X'D
P.S. Love your videos agadmator, I've been marathoning your past videos to catch up! ^_^
Hereson iii
I was trying to figure out if that was a joke that he was making. I think it was lol.
I didn't know you played chess lol
Love your music!
Lucky I do play chess :) Got into it thanks to Jerry years ago. But gotta show lots of love to agadmator as well! Looking forward to a match between those two #oneday
"Your queen is attacked. You probably want to do something about that..."
Love those understatements.
Jim Skea English is not his mother tongue.
He is simply saying that he loves his dry/simple way of explaining things.
nutbuster23 correct! And I think his English is excellent, by the way.
Ikr!
Always love such statements.
And yes, he is an excellent speaker of the English language xD
the funny thing is svidler DIDNT do anything about it
10:32 I love the dog's reaction when (s)he hears, that you have queen for three pieces :3
Thanks for the video and actually showing what would happen if you play certain moves. Really helps!
I really appreciate that this game is shown here, as it's indeed one of the most complex and craziest games ever in chess history and the most amazing thing about it is that it ended in a draw! I'd like to see more games in this style! ;-)
I really wish they played this out
Chuck his style is to make the board complix like maze
excellent game - Sxc4 cool
Chess players need to be drug tested? Like for the drug from Limitless?
Tristun Alekzander Nope, but they have to play for hours it is physically draining...
Amphetamines. There's a reason why students in the US are popping adderall like candy.
s h ???
Svidler is showing him a picture of Gelfand, of course!
i didn't even need to pause the video to solve this!
Lozis me da i ti pratis kanal hahahahabababa
de si Buriću, sto godina, skokni dole do VIŠER-a da odigramo koju :D
I was gonna say it's a nude picture of his sister, but I think you're right. It's a nude picture of Gelfand!
A wild Gelfand appears on the paper! :D
Peter Svidler showing something.
Agadmator: What is the idea here? Pause the video and try to find out. :D
Dipan Ghosh thought you were making a joke.
Grischuk has become my second favorite behind Ivanchuk due to his creative non-engine like moves
Xaviar Thunders So you like the chuks, eh?
+shardul nikam Lol go team Chuky!
Tal!!!
why don't you like engine like moves
Wow
I still don't know what's the sound he apologizes for, everytime...
He switches off the speakers, so that we don't hear the double voice from the system
I have an exam tmw but exams can wait you know😂😂
Me too
Trust me no drugs finna help u play chess I tried em all.
Adderall, modafanil and other medical uppers could easily be used to get an edge.
acid. just the right amount of acid.
or 2CB.
Ever tried weed? I always get flagged because i start thinking too many moves in advance and after 3 minutes i decide what pawn to move first.. usually i play 5 minutes games
I am not an avid chess player, but after having watched several of your videos I decided to subscribe because I thoroughly enjoy your presentation and breakdown of games, your humility when discussing your own games, your theory-crafting, your sincere appreciation towards donators and subscribers, and most importantly your genuine love and admiration for this game. keep up the great work, Antonio :).
I totally agree with you!
I thought it is chess that makes me watch this videos but turns out I did check the other chess analyzer channels and I got bored so it is all about the gentleman who commentate the videos, thanks you are an excellent commentator :)
6:50 Yeah i... Totally didn't think the play was capture bishop with Queen sacrifice or anything... Not me *sips tea whole looking around nervously*
Regrets... Had Grischuk won this game, I believe it would have been the game of the decade.
Do you think the queen against Svidler's "naked" king could go on and grab piece after piece ?
(the position at 15:21 looks like a clear win since it's hard to protect the h4 pawn)
Antonio, you once recommended that we find a player we like and learn their games to have a greater insight into chess, Alexander Grischuk is my player of choice, thank you for this game analysis.
Great Choice...he is really a blitz specialist but still is ranked 9 in world
This is why I love Carlsen, there is no way in hell he would offer a draw in that situation hhh
If Sven does wild home preparations like Grischucky, then his games wouldn't be boringass draws like in Antonio's previous vid
TimelineUpdates well to read that after i saw the 12. Match caruana- carlsen. I have to say this didnt age well
Looks like you have to take that back now, huh. Winning position with lots of threats against Fabiano. Fabiano threatening nothing. Fabiano down to minutes with 9 moves to reach time control, while Magnus has 45 minutes on the clock. And MAGNUS was the one to offer the draw. Pathetic.
@@jestice75 It is not a very beautiful way to play a championship, but I believe Carlsen offered a draw because he didn't want to risk anything. He most likely knew that he was winning if it went to rapids or blitz, which could explain why he always seemed to play for a draw in the classic games. If this was planned, then I wouldn't call it pathetic.
What about the draw Carlsen offered during the last game of normal time control of the world championship?
2:19 wont white just recapture Knight with the Queen?
UnseenPhantom I think black would play exd5 and after the queen moves push d4. I am not sure if this is the best continuation but it is the best i found for black
he can but black will get the piece back via ed5 and d4
What they said, but yes - Agad should have explained this.
Yes after Nxg4 then Qxg4, then Exd5, the queen has to move then you push D4
UnseenPhantom After Qxg4 is exd and after queen moves d4 by black is getting piece back and black bishop becomes monster
If chess is serious about trying to get bigger viewing figures at big tournaments on sites like twitch, they have to get rid of the draw offer, at least in these huge tournments. That's still a very imbalanced position in an excellent and exciting game. It should never be called so early. There's no other sport where the competitors can just stop things whenever they like. Draws should only happen by repetition, stalemate, insufficient material and 50-move rule.
Since the 3 moves repetition rule exists players will always find a way to use it to draw games.
I love draws
@@obitouchiha6980 you also loved Rin. Look where that got you
Truly amazing game but above all the analysis and the presentation was superb. Thank you very much.
I think I speak for everyone when I say. More Tal games!!. Love your content man. Keep up the good work. #suggestion
07:59 black does not win a piece if bishop d2 is played. If the knight is captured you fork the queen with check and white should be more than good in this position.
7:57 I am curious if white could potentially hold on to the extra piece with Bd2. Of course the point being you can capture the Knight immediately with the pawn because Bxc3 comes with check forking the king and the queen. It doesn't look like white could hold on forever, but I am just curious how long white could last with that move.
I'm still stuck on 800 rating
Ur getting there to 820! You can do it
Same
1600 :(
I don't feel those feels no more bro.. (Stuck at 1500-1600)
I am around 1300 right now but am winning a lot of games. I think most people at 800 are stuck because they are overthinking stuff. I got by 700-800 just thinking 2-4 moves ahead.
Whats your source of quotes
Dev Chawla People
Where are you from Dev
wouldnt u lose both knights for the light sqiare bishop if u played knight e to g4 at 2:06? as the black queen will capture the second knight once its captured the bishop?
Honestly didn't know you gotta do drug tests for chess. Does muscle-enhancing steroids make you a BEAST at chess too?
This was truly one of the most interesting games I've ever watched!
what does the engine thinks of the last position the one they agreed to a draw at ?
Whya i am here after 7 years.
Drug test.. In chess...? Seriously.?
Vivek Joshi Amphetamemes
You think you can’t cheat with drugs in chest? Steroids arent the only thing in life.
Why not in football ?
Yes, of course. Those chess grandmasters are real partiers!
Yeah at least for beta blockers - they'll calm nerves in high-pressure tournament situations. Great for classical concert performers, pro gamers and a number of other professionals. Darts, shooting etc.
No gelfand though
His absence only makes my heart grow fonder.
What drug test lol
Hi Im Faker I think it's for amphetamines and other concentration-boosting drugs
I guessed it right but i had in mind WHY they decided to go for it as i never heard of drug tests at chess tournaments
Edit: i've read about it and it's just a standard just like at olympics
7:58 what would black do after Bd2?
At 7:31 you say it would be great if you could grab another oiece for the queen but then you only analyze two lines and conclude that white cannot grab the piece but what about if you capture the piece on d1 with the rook?
This way if black ever plays d4 to fork your pieces, he would have to move his queen first before he could take a piece, so shouldn't that give you all the tempi you need to actually make it 3 minor pieces for the queen?
Again, what am I missing? Bring it on engines. Haha
Again Russian vs. Russian, Americanos have to stop watching TV shows and learn chess!
8:00 bishop to d2 after the pawn takes knight, bishop takes pawn check and grabs the queen
16:12 Rook d4 to d1!?
My thoughts exactly....
You would just capture on e2 with your pawn, if his rook takes queen you capture his rook with your pawn and promote it to a queen, if he plays any other move you just won a rook and have an advanced passed pawn
Let me just take care of that sound [scratches fixes scratches fixes] and continues with description
At 9.00, white to move, why not Bxf8+ capture the rook with check as an in-between move winning the exchange and then after black deals with the check you can continue the game like white does in the game to defend that pawn?
I think it seems very obvious and as I am low rated (1650 atm) I can't imagine that these pros missed it, but rather that there is a reason not to do it? But I can't see it. Anyone got a reason not to do it?
Otherwise great game, and Agadmator, great video as always :)
yeah, so weird
13:41 White Re8 threatening to capture Black's queen and check Black's King on h8. If Qf2, Rd2
Peter "the Swindler" vs. Alexander "the Thug" Grischuk - did you expect anything other than a backstabbing, underhanded slugfest? It's like a match between two Tempo Rogues in Hearthstone.
How is Grischuk a thug?
@@nigelfarage4119 It's a meme. Search it on YT.
@@b_tang Svidler on the roof?
ive recently discovered your channel & it was awesome to be informed that professional chess has drug testing. i never would've thought that was a thing.
*while co-leader Levon Aronian (Armenia) lost to Boris Gelfand (Israel)...*
also known as "Sexual healing" :D
i love how this channel has created the Sexy Gelfand meme
Im done
Black had better chances to win the game
Are your thumbnails actual board positions? Because you always censor the board in photos, but you spoil the positions in the thumbnails.
7:33- why not R×d1. So the d pawn will be pinned and white can save his knight and bishop?
plzz correct me if i am wrong
Queen to a5, and after let's say Bd2, black plays d4.
You can still play d4. If you try to then move away one of the pieces, f.e. Bc1, you run into Qb6, and you cannot save both the knight on c3 and the bishop on b5. On the other hand, if you try to save the knight on c3 after d4, then Qe7 pins the bishop and you lose the piece again
No conference photo :(
Yes, I forgot. So sorry :)
@2:08 isn't Ng4 just dropping a knight?? Can't white just play Bxg4 Nxg4 Qxg4 and its gig? Even if black goes exd5 with discovered attack on the queen, that's only getting a pawn or two for the knight, I don't think that's worth it? What really simple trick am I missing here? You say that black is "winning the bishop pair no matter what here in this line"! Yeah, but black is also giving up two knights just to get the white bishop and a pawn or two? Not worth it AFAICT(can tell).
ex0duzz Right idea, but you'd have to go one move further. Ng4 Bxg4 Nxg4 Qxg4 exd5 Qd1 d4 forks the bishop and knight and you get the piece back and the position would probably favor black.
ex0duzz After exd4 with a tempo on the queen, black has d4 forking the kinght and the bishop winning the piece back
Iven if it was not winning a piece , this is not serious of his part to not show exactly how it doesn't! His analyses are too superficial .
chess brillancie Well I mean if he did stop at every single position to show every variation, his videos would be extremely long. Some people would like an hour long analysis, but others (including myself) feel he highlights the most important parts of the game without carrying on too much. Can't make everyone happy I guess.
Oh, C'mon. Feel free to create your own chess channel and analyze all possible lines. As mentioned in the video, this was a well known position before the novelty.
What does a "not too superficial" chess player do for well known positions that are unfamiliar to him/her? Well, look at an opening book. It's not like anyone is forcing you to watch this (outstanding, in my opinion) chess channel.
A great game
It is been a while since you covered such a wild complicated game !
2:06 how is knight g4 possible you lose a whole Knight?!
Wow Agadmator what an end game analysis. You are simply great.
hi agadmator...what u call queen in ur terminology...is not called queen...in indian chess terminology...and perhaps rightly so...its called wazeer(Minister).....and it sounds correct too...
I am not usually commenting, but the position at 7:57 (or 7:58): if you move your dark bishop to d 2 than black cant grab your night on c 3 because than dark bishop captures on c 3 will be check and that would win blacks queen. Correct me if I missed something I am not a great player or anything but please check this out!
omg you are right!
I was pretty sure someone in the comments also looked at this variation. Maybe it would not lead itself to that or Svidler also missed this, which is highly possible
but ...Qb6 leaves you with the same problem, plus the check soon coming on the now open e file.
Insane game
How do you follow up at 2:15? The queen is also defending the light square bishop so it’s not like you can take that piece as you lose 2 knights
I don't know if you found the trick but after Queen takes the knight, pawn e6 takes d5 attacking queen, queen moves then pawn d5 to d4 double attacking. You get a piece with great position for black. 👍
@@harshalbhanarkar nice thanks
Drug tests? In Chess? WTF?? testing for EPO or Stanazol? Seriously?
Hi! I love your videos but this is very weird here: at min. 2.06 you suggest a possible 12... Ng4??. It happened in many games, but then 13. Bxg4 Nxg4 and it is unclear. Then of course you get 14... exd5 15. f5 d4 16. Nd5 but this position favors white like 4 to 1, am I right?
I'm probably wrong, but at 7:23, after the black king takes the pawn, it looks to me like Kxd1 is the best move. You said that the black queen could move to a5, check, but if the knight moves back to c3, the pushed pawn at d4 IS NOT A PROBLEM 7:57. All that white has to do is move e3 to d2 and the knight is protected; the pawn can't take the knight on c3 because if it does, the bishop will take the pawn on c3 and win the queen by forking the king, CHECK.
8:00 How does black win a piece?
White plays:
1. Bd2 dxc3
2. Bxc3 + Forking the queen and king, so black can't take the white bishop.
14:05 Can the King capture C4, pawn promotes F1 w/check, Rook Capture Queen F1? 2 Rooks and a Knight against the White Queen. Please help me expand my not-so-vast knowledge.
At 7:59 can't white play Bd2? What does black play? If dxc3 white just captures the pawn back, forking the king and queen. Everything else also seems to allow white to hang on to the piece with not enough comp for black imo.
4:14 why Ne2 wasn't played ? Bishop captures than queen captures guarding the bishop on b5 ..
wait a second... the Ng5 move is a BLUNDER right? Bxg4 Nxg4 AND QXG4!!
When they agreed to the draw , White could have played RD1, this allows black to take the E file Rook and white takes the queen. The pawn takes the rook and promotes to a queen, but bishop takes the Queen. It's Bishop, Knight and Pawn vs a rook and i would say it's winning for white.
I'm pretty sure Grischuk considered that pawn takes knight is a line. I mean who wouldn't? As you said, Grischuk had this position while praparing. Pawn captures is one of the first thing that comes to mind after looking at the position. Idk what you're smoking. He's definitely prepared for that move.
in 7:59 you can defend your knight with Bd2 (as if black takes the knight you can play Bxc3+ nd you grab the queen)?
WAIT, *Pause* 1:06 What? What could they possibly be testing for? What drug could make you better at chess? If I were playing I think I would prefer my opponent to be on any drug. What is considered a "Performance Enhancing Drug" in the chess world? Anyone... P
ruclips.net/video/ez_JCnLFGx8/видео.htmlm41s Is there a reason white couldn't just go knight c3? In the scenario explored, after rook takes on c5, then pawn takes on c5, white's knight would be undefended, but also wouldn't be in any immediate danger, but it would also be guarding against Queen b1.
Peter Svidler: See I solved a Sudoku puzzle last week and won....and you guys thought I only knew chess:)
@5:12
Could Svidler move his light square bishop to e2? Blocking the attack on the queen. Beginner here!
@Xavier Thunders: Grischuk had the variation all worked out in advance, Svidler is the on who found the queen sac over the board.
Agadmator on 7:57 if pawn on d5 is pushed to d4 attacking the pinned knight on c3 and the dark bishop on e3 white simply plays bishop back to d2. Black can’t grab the knight on c3 with the pawn. If he does then white takes with bishop attacking the Queen while delivering check! Black has to take the bishop and give up the Queen. So you can in fact grab the third piece! Note that the white bishop is guarding the e8 square so black can’t check the King with either rooks😊
5:31 why not QxF6 and after black takes queen with queen GxH1=Q?
@_Bassem_Amin @ @_GM #2712_rating beated a lot of GMs
drug tests you say...magnus is going to start bulking xd
Hello everyone! Hello Antonio! Welcome and Greetings from me! Rilum Osmanaj
"I really wanted to show you this game because alot of you clowns might not even see it because uhh uhh you know when you see the results as a draw then you idiots aren't really interested in checking the game."
Antonio really has his finger on the pulse of his viewers.....😂😂😂😂
This video should be remembered as the one that revealed the mistery behind the "Sorry about that" syndrom of Agadmator! :D
I had an idea what he is talking about but now there is the proof right here in this video!!
PS: Mr Agadmator, there is nothing that needs fixing, just so you know. Sound is good!!!, video also ;). So you can stop your "Sorry about that" :P :D
After e6 to d5 pond at 3.49 why white didnt gone for pond captures d5 anyway a horse and queen is gaurding d5 it would have been a piece and 2 pond ahead and he would have managed more easily ??
@3:48 some1 plz explain when black Exd5 why white didnt take the piece back by Exd5 but push it to e5?
Maybe Svidler is showing a nice photo of Grischuk? 🤔
Players should have played this game out. If not to win then at least they could learn something new. By drawing they learnt nothing new about the magnificent endgame that could have happened
after d captures on e5 , i think bishop captures c5 attaking the rook was a good move , because light square bishope is garding e8 , rook for the white
Didn't white blunder with Bxa6???the game was beautiful up until then
8:35 if Rc8 then Nf5+ wins right?
At 8:41, why does white not capture the rook on f8 with the bishop and put the king in check? Seems like that would kill the attack in that variation.
11:20 "Rxb2 would be an idea" ... ? Seems like a bad idea because the white rook is defending b2
@3:48 What's wrong with simply exd5 ??
In the critical position how does knight to e to g4 work since the square is guarder 2 times by the bishop amd the queen and the knight would only be protected by the other knight so isnt it losing a piece since there is a pawn in the way of balcks light square bishop? Or is there some trickery im just not seeing here since im not that good at chess
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He shows a picture of Trump, allocating one dollar to the federal tax collectors money cache.
at 8:00 black doesnt win the piece. Whites move e3/d2. if blacks pawn takes the knight, white can take that pawn, make a check and attack queen
exf6 is easy to find. The great move was Bxc5. Very nice game.
I think peter svidler shouldve tried to move the rook on d4 to e4 before agreeing to a draw myself.
I guess it's a subpoena to appear in chess court for the crime of playing Stone Wall.