I'm sure this was mentioned by now, but it shows Selina saying to Jim, "You never had kids, did you?" He says, "or a wife, time kinda got away from me". So, that's the answer to Barbra's whereabouts. She was never born. Love the channel, man.
I loved the part where Thomas Wayne tells her that Bruce followed in his fathers footsteps and she ask if he is a doctor. He says no and her face is like oh no. One of the best moments in comics.
I loved everything about flashpoint, I think character changes are glossed over to a degree partially simply to the fact that every aspect of history was changed. I understood as i saw it that billy batson for example NOT growing up with superman to idolize made him not as "pure" and thus it took multiple children to form Shazam, similar situation to no Barbara gordon.
Hey Rob. Love your channel. Thank you! What I wanted to say was about Barbara Gordon. You said that you didn't really know what happen to her just a couple panels after Commissioner explained he never got married, never had kids. Thanks again! You're awesome!
It was cool to hear about the stand alone batman flashpoint comic. Didn't know it was out there. I thought it was just the flashpoint comic by itself. So thanks for sharing that. I'd be interested to hear the other characters back stories.
actually he said awhile ago that he has editors make some of the visuals for his video's, so the editor probably put that frame in because they saw the answer but rob couldn't change the audio.
Blake Staggs wait a minute, wasn't Barbara Gordon adopted from Jim's brother or sister? I thought she was originally his niece that he adopted after her parents died.
Thanks for covering this! I wasn't a big fan of 52 but I LOVE the flash point. I thought it was highly dynamic and showed DC characters in a lot of ways we'd never seen them before. Ways that were so raw. I think this was in part because it wasn't expected to be a long lasting issue for those characters to be established in, however, because of that I feel like they didn't hold back within how they portrayed characters.
I wish you could have mentioned that the reason that Martha snapped at the end which led to her death, was Thomas admitting to her that, even in a world where she & Thomas died and Bruce "lived", Bruce still "died" and became a Batman. That Bruce never had a normal life, and would presumably meet a sad end (such as the stories from "Whatever Happened to the Caped Crusader?" talked about). That Martha killed herself because even in a "better world" where her son lived, her son still died and became, what she perceived to be, an empty shell of who he used to be, a shell of who he could have become.
Lately you've been doing a lot of stories I actually care about....maybe it's because I mostly like dc and only like a few marvel characters (like moon knight)
FYI people there is also an animated movie about this story. it covers the events pretty well but some are missing. Still worth a watch if you liked the comics.
it depends on which "era" for lack of a better term you go by. originally Barbara was written as Jims Niece and later adopted daughter, but after some reboots like the Crises (plural of Crisis, just so you know I didnt misspell it) and stuff she has been his biological daughter.
Rob, to answer your question about where Barbra is, look at 13:25 right in this video. Seline asks Gorden "You never had kids, did you?" And Gorden explains that no, that in time timeline he never got around to having a wife, so no Daughter.
that was badass rob. i loved the going further into the spinoff of flash point instead of just doing flashpoint i saw the cartoon on netflix but it didnt go into that detail with Martha as the joker i hope ya do more!!!
I like the longer discussions like this video. Although I'm not a fan of Flashpoint in general, but I liked the video. I'd love a rundown on other longer stories, like 52 or Annihilation Wave or the Hush story line.
Wow!!!! Yeah, Rob...I'd definitely like to see more from the Flashpoint Universe. I just read Flashpoint and saw the DC animated movie, but never read the tie-ins. I'd like for you to continue this.
I've commented 3 times already and it's because this storyline was so amazing to me. PLEASE dive into cyborg's origin as well as why Diana and aquaman are at war.
this was a good video. I think you covered a lot of the main points and important details. a few things were missing, however, like how thomas owns all the crime in gotham, the status of others like harvey dent, bullock, and montoya, and, most importantly, how martha only runs off because thomas tells her that bruce becomes batman. despite those missing details, I still enjoyed the video. thanks!
wow this story is amazing I've loved the Flashpoint moive they did a few years back but it's cool to see the original story with more depth and explanation the whole dynamic of the Flashpoint timeline and how everyone was effect was something I always wanted to see more of and in greater detail please cover more of this rob
Rob, Barbera doesnt exist, at least not in any way that matters. Jim commented in that first panel with Selina that he *never had the time to have a wife or kids* . That's a fairly big thing to miss for having shown it on screen. To be fair though it was just a throwaway comment in that one panel.
This is an exceptional story and blending The FLASH's first Flashpoint issue with the three issue miniseries for Thomas Wayne's BATMAN was a perfect choice for this video.
i think you should continue with flashpoint and the detailed one shots...beside being a huge flash fan i enjoyed flashpoint but never really got to read many of the one shots...especially like superman...
hey Rob. Please do the entire Flashpoint. It seems intriguing. especially the thomas and Martha Wayne stories. Scared the shit out of me. Please make this happen. I realize it will likely make a 3 hour video but it will be sooo great and EPIC.
this is weird. i felt like i spoiled your video for myself since i've watched the animated film of flash point. but anyways this was great and keep up the good work.
You left out the reason Martha Wayne's insanity kicked back in: Martha asks what will happen to their orphaned son. Thomas replies that he will be like his father. Martha asks if this means Bruce will become a doctor. Thomas says no and Martha realizes to her horror that their son will become Batman.
Wow I'm surprised at how loyal the Flashpoint Paradox movie was. Yes I'd love to see more of this, Flashpoint is a very interesting take on the DC universe.
Great video again Rob, lovin it! You should most definitely cover the character origins from the Flashpoint U as well as the main arc. I know thats a lot of work but it would be awesome. Im a sucker for ANYTHING Bat related so naturally i loved Thomas and Martha's story from Flashpoint. Wish DC would have released the Flashpoint animated movie in different parts, to cover more of the info left out of the movie, great movie, just missing alot. Rob i never hear you talk about the DC or Marvel animated movies, do you like them at all?
It would be awesome if you did a series of videos comparing the characters of the 616 marvel universe to the character of the 1610 (ultimate) universe, like comparing the Avengers to the Ultimates and so on.
Selina/Oracle said that Jim Gordon didn't have kids in the panel you showed, and he replied that he didn't even have a wife. That's what happened to Barbara.
Spencer Conway you're absolutely right and I hate it when people comment on something and they really don't know what they're talking about they just State their opinion and assume it to be fact without checking the source material
LordUzaki I think it was told good how it was. I think more detail would have ruined it they gave enough detail that was needed and left the rest to our imagination. I love when they do that. I think that's one of the things ruining comics is that they have to explain everything instead of just leaving it how it is
One of the things I loved about Flashpoint, is it seems to be the start of Cyborg being a part of the justice league, something I think he was long overdue for
Geoff loves Cyborg. it's prominent in his Teen Titans run. No surprise he would make him the iconic American hero in this world and then carry that over to Justice League.
I'm sure this was mentioned by now, but it shows Selina saying to Jim, "You never had kids, did you?" He says, "or a wife, time kinda got away from me". So, that's the answer to Barbra's whereabouts. She was never born. Love the channel, man.
13:26 it's the panel we're introduced to Selina Kyle
I loved the part where Thomas Wayne tells her that Bruce followed in his fathers footsteps and she ask if he is a doctor. He says no and her face is like oh no. One of the best moments in comics.
Flashpoint Universe finally showing everyone how badass Aquaman could be.
Yes
Max Power aqua man is so shit he should be named seamen
boi you just watched south park didnt you
Scorpionruler5 I'd did
and you just stole their joke
Out of all the flashpoint tie-ins, this version of Batman and Joker fascinated me.
Thomas Wayne is the best part of this series.
Obviously
Also the best part of the movie
Thomas Wayne is dead dumb fuc....shot in an alley after a Wayne movie night
@@robbcampbell7441 did you watch the video?
@@robbcampbell7441 not here, moron!!!
In Flashpoint universe Jim Gordan never got married or had kids. It was on a panel in the video.
I loved everything about flashpoint, I think character changes are glossed over to a degree partially simply to the fact that every aspect of history was changed. I understood as i saw it that billy batson for example NOT growing up with superman to idolize made him not as "pure" and thus it took multiple children to form Shazam, similar situation to no Barbara gordon.
This is defiantly dark but for the most part understandable reaction to the lost of a child in that particular way.
Loved the presentation
Hey Rob. Love your channel. Thank you! What I wanted to say was about Barbara Gordon. You said that you didn't really know what happen to her just a couple panels after Commissioner explained he never got married, never had kids. Thanks again! You're awesome!
It was cool to hear about the stand alone batman flashpoint comic. Didn't know it was out there. I thought it was just the flashpoint comic by itself. So thanks for sharing that. I'd be interested to hear the other characters back stories.
The story was really sad and really good. I prefer you continue.
This story was and is one of my all time favourites. Such an awesome spin on the iconic Batman/Joker mythos.
@comicsexplained 13:25 jim says to catwomen he never got married or had kids
Blake Staggs l
It's right there in his own vid lol. Maybe he's testing to make sure we're paying attention.
IDK maybe.
actually he said awhile ago that he has editors make some of the visuals for his video's, so the editor probably put that frame in because they saw the answer but rob couldn't change the audio.
Blake Staggs wait a minute, wasn't Barbara Gordon adopted from Jim's brother or sister? I thought she was originally his niece that he adopted after her parents died.
I would enjoy more flashpoint coverage. It's a great story and getting more in depth discussion is always interesting in these alternate realities
I'm loving the in depth covering of Flashpoint.
I'm so excited that you covered this storyline with the Waynes!!! Thanks!
I read FP years ago. This is a nice refresher. Thanx.
Thanks for covering this! I wasn't a big fan of 52 but I LOVE the flash point. I thought it was highly dynamic and showed DC characters in a lot of ways we'd never seen them before. Ways that were so raw. I think this was in part because it wasn't expected to be a long lasting issue for those characters to be established in, however, because of that I feel like they didn't hold back within how they portrayed characters.
Excellent work yet again Rob... Best narrator on the net, bro.
Awesome video. I was completely enthralled by your storytelling. PLEASE make more and don't just reread the story like some other places. Thanks!
I wish you could have mentioned that the reason that Martha snapped at the end which led to her death, was Thomas admitting to her that, even in a world where she & Thomas died and Bruce "lived", Bruce still "died" and became a Batman. That Bruce never had a normal life, and would presumably meet a sad end (such as the stories from "Whatever Happened to the Caped Crusader?" talked about).
That Martha killed herself because even in a "better world" where her son lived, her son still died and became, what she perceived to be, an empty shell of who he used to be, a shell of who he could have become.
Lately you've been doing a lot of stories I actually care about....maybe it's because I mostly like dc and only like a few marvel characters (like moon knight)
Amiradi Coolisa who the hell is moon knight
never heard of moon knight lol
Amiradi Coolisa iron man is the best character in marvel in my opinion
Moon Knight is by far my favorite character
+Radiant Fighter Reading prior to 2000 would suggest otherwise.
FYI people there is also an animated movie about this story. it covers the events pretty well but some are missing. Still worth a watch if you liked the comics.
No shit Sherlock
Oh it's mentioned that Barbra Gordon does not exist since Gordon did not marry due to his being busy with helping Gotham
The Maker but Barbara is hes niece right
it depends on which "era" for lack of a better term you go by. originally Barbara was written as Jims Niece and later adopted daughter, but after some reboots like the Crises (plural of Crisis, just so you know I didnt misspell it) and stuff she has been his biological daughter.
yeah he even showed a page in this vid where selena is talking to gordon and he says he doesnt have kids.
This was great. I'm anxious to see how you cover wonder woman and aquaman's past and what caused the angst between them. I love these backstories
One of my favorite stories in recent memory
I can't wait to see more of these! Flashpoint universe is so interesting!
dude this is the most exciting thing i heard in a long time. i look forward to going over the flash point tie ins.
I'd luv more vids about the Flashpoint Universe. When I was reading it in real time, I couldn't get enough.
Rob, to answer your question about where Barbra is, look at 13:25 right in this video. Seline asks Gorden "You never had kids, did you?" And Gorden explains that no, that in time timeline he never got around to having a wife, so no Daughter.
seriously man . You always do a awesome job . And unlike the other comic channels you don't have an annoying voice . Keep up the good work man
I am loving this in depth story of the flashpoint event. Do continue.
I have a feeling that Heath Ledger's joker had a big influence in Martha Wayne's design in flashpoint cause looking at her I thought of Nolan's Joker
Going back and listening to this I have to say how fkn AWKWARD Rob sounds being serious! I got my ring man, nothing but but love! 🤣
but but
This is one of my favourite parts of the Flashpoint event. Reading this story for the first time is something I'll remember for the rest of my life.
I love it keep up the good work rob!
Wow, I love this. Digging the theme(s) lately Rob!
I saw the movie TV movie and loved it. Good to know the backstory so more videos would be appreciate
I read this story a while back but still watching this video anyway. Rob's recaps are too good.
Awesome video as always. Yes please on more Flashpoint, including all the side stories.
Subscribed, definitely interested in hearing more about the flashpoint universe
I might have been a bit inebriated, but dayum, that Thomas Wayne reveal sent some crazy chills down my spine.
that was badass rob. i loved the going further into the spinoff of flash point instead of just doing flashpoint i saw the cartoon on netflix but it didnt go into that detail with Martha as the joker i hope ya do more!!!
Dude your gonna learn me on all the comics!
I like the longer discussions like this video. Although I'm not a fan of Flashpoint in general, but I liked the video. I'd love a rundown on other longer stories, like 52 or Annihilation Wave or the Hush story line.
Great video, keep up the flashpoint alternate stories!
Wow!!!! Yeah, Rob...I'd definitely like to see more from the Flashpoint Universe.
I just read Flashpoint and saw the DC animated movie, but never read the tie-ins.
I'd like for you to continue this.
Yes talk about anything and everything flash point please! i love flashpoint characters and the altered universe. make more videos :)
Love this setting. More would be sweet. As always, thanks for the video.
I've commented 3 times already and it's because this storyline was so amazing to me. PLEASE dive into cyborg's origin as well as why Diana and aquaman are at war.
this was a good video. I think you covered a lot of the main points and important details. a few things were missing, however, like how thomas owns all the crime in gotham, the status of others like harvey dent, bullock, and montoya, and, most importantly, how martha only runs off because thomas tells her that bruce becomes batman. despite those missing details, I still enjoyed the video. thanks!
Ever since I saw the cartoon, I've always wanted to know about Thomas Wayne. Thank you.
wow this story is amazing I've loved the Flashpoint moive they did a few years back but it's cool to see the original story with more depth and explanation the whole dynamic of the Flashpoint timeline and how everyone was effect was something I always wanted to see more of and in greater detail please cover more of this rob
This was great! A captivating story. Please do more
Rob, Barbera doesnt exist, at least not in any way that matters. Jim commented in that first panel with Selina that he *never had the time to have a wife or kids* . That's a fairly big thing to miss for having shown it on screen. To be fair though it was just a throwaway comment in that one panel.
This is an exceptional story and blending The FLASH's first Flashpoint issue with the three issue miniseries for Thomas Wayne's BATMAN was a perfect choice for this video.
Roobb love the D.C content. I listened to your podcast and agree with the loss of interest from Civil War 2
i think you should continue with flashpoint and the detailed one shots...beside being a huge flash fan i enjoyed flashpoint but never really got to read many of the one shots...especially like superman...
Yooo this was very cool. More please!
Please continue...
These are all awesome.
hey Rob. Please do the entire Flashpoint. It seems intriguing. especially the thomas and Martha Wayne stories. Scared the shit out of me. Please make this happen. I realize it will likely make a 3 hour video but it will be sooo great and EPIC.
this is weird. i felt like i spoiled your video for myself since i've watched the animated film of flash point. but anyways this was great and keep up the good work.
"Run over Flashpoint"...good one.
Barbara may not have even been born, Jim Gordon mentioned he had never been married.
Wow!!! Damn!!! That's a CRAAAZY ass story.. I LIKE IT!!!!
Yeah, this is a good and proper alternate timeline.
I would like more of these. superman is one i have been debating about buying
Great job man!!! I love your work!
this actually got my eyes watery... so sad
This Thomas Wayne stuff was really good. How about that Flash Rebirth though? it would be great if you could upload it at godspeed.
I enjoy the pun, but Godspeed, in its actual definition, is another way of saying good luck, not any actual measure of speed.
its the name of the villain in the flash rebirth
araw yes, Im well aware of that. Thats why I said "I enjoy the pun"
apologies i though you were not aware
Good to see Andy Kubert art again. Haven't seen too much of it since 90's X-Men.
You left out the reason Martha Wayne's insanity kicked back in: Martha asks what will happen to their orphaned son. Thomas replies that he will be like his father. Martha asks if this means Bruce will become a doctor. Thomas says no and Martha realizes to her horror that their son will become Batman.
Thanks Rob~ Can't wait for more~~
I saw the cartoon version of this on Netflix a couple months back. Really a very interesting take on the DC universe.
This was excellent as usual
I enjoyed hearing the specifics about batman. I've always heard about Flashpoint but only the overall story
Please do more of the tie ins they sound dark as hell...and I like it.
Wow I'm surprised at how loyal the Flashpoint Paradox movie was. Yes I'd love to see more of this, Flashpoint is a very interesting take on the DC universe.
Great video again Rob, lovin it! You should most definitely cover the character origins from the Flashpoint U as well as the main arc. I know thats a lot of work but it would be awesome. Im a sucker for ANYTHING Bat related so naturally i loved Thomas and Martha's story from Flashpoint. Wish DC would have released the Flashpoint animated movie in different parts, to cover more of the info left out of the movie, great movie, just missing alot. Rob i never hear you talk about the DC or Marvel animated movies, do you like them at all?
This story is easily in my top 3 favorites of DC comics! PLEASE do more Rob!!!
this is one of the only alternative reality stories I like
MOAR!! I love your videos!
It would be awesome if you did a series of videos comparing the characters of the 616 marvel universe to the character of the 1610 (ultimate) universe, like comparing the Avengers to the Ultimates and so on.
J-bomb Williams that would be a great video
Yes, Rob, you did miss something obvious...at 13:26 of the video, you find out why Barbara isn't there.
I would love to hear more about the Flashpoint universe. I watched the animated film, but was always curious about the details.
Yes!
Please do all the characters and the world of the Flashpoint
Definitely should do more of the tie-ins
I love flashpoint and have always been curious about the other changes to the characters in the story
Having these is really cool to me as I've only seen the Flashpoint movie.
You should do some more of these videos, flashpoint was my favorite
the Flashpoin event is the best man ! continum to make this videos ! :)
Great video - please explain what happened to other characters in the Flashpoint!
Selina/Oracle said that Jim Gordon didn't have kids in the panel you showed, and he replied that he didn't even have a wife. That's what happened to Barbara.
Another great upload brother👍🏻
yellow stained clay whats wrong? Cheer up man. Not everyone has to be miserable.
dead man and the flying graysons might be cool ive never read it but was interested. wonder woman and aquaman too
This is where Heath Leger's got Jokers' inspirational preformance.
Actually, this story was published 3 years after his death.
Spencer Conway you're absolutely right and I hate it when people comment on something and they really don't know what they're talking about they just State their opinion and assume it to be fact without checking the source material
I feel as though the story was rushed. had they been given more time I feel as though you could create a rlly interesting story from this dynamic
LordUzaki I think it was told good how it was. I think more detail would have ruined it they gave enough detail that was needed and left the rest to our imagination. I love when they do that. I think that's one of the things ruining comics is that they have to explain everything instead of just leaving it how it is
Wow, The Flashpoint Paradox animated film did NOT show the Joker part.
Huh. I remember watching that and thought that was in it. Not actually showing the Joker, just alluding that Mrs. Wayne became the Joker.
I just read this comic, The Flash is amazing, I love the timelines
love this story, keep it up!
One of the things I loved about Flashpoint, is it seems to be the start of Cyborg being a part of the justice league, something I think he was long overdue for
Geoff loves Cyborg. it's prominent in his Teen Titans run. No surprise he would make him the iconic American hero in this world and then carry that over to Justice League.
So what I wanna do here, it took me a week to realize he said that in every video
Love your videos Rob!