This week,. 4-10th september 2023, was a busy week for me. Running out 70h, spread over 6 days. Total salary for me ends up with salary of canadian dollars 3 595,20. From norwegian (playdoh) currency. We have 100% overtime from 1530 to 7, of the hour we pump, 50% after 1530 on hours we dont bills the customers, repairs and such in the yard. We run addition on hoses, fixed extra equals to 1,5h after 12h of work, and about 1/5th of the hour pay in addition of hourly pay when pumping concrete. When doing an estimate, a yearly salary in norway will be around 134K cad.
Thank you so much for the detailed breakdown. It’s always interesting to see pay structure as well as invoicing structure from markets outside of our own.
@canadianconcretepumper1979 im the kind of Johnny who don't have a life outside of work. Taking everything I can get. Don't know how to say the 2 letter word starting with n, ending with o!
Hi, I want to say I really enjoy your channel. I am a old pioneer in concrete pumping. I started with something you may have never heard of the Thompsen 640 lattice booms we had to put these together in the morning and break it down to travel home. I love your content on your channel how you take a person from the yard to the job site setting up doing the pour and going through the cleanup. You remind me of myself as I had a love for concrete pumping as well. At the time I gave it up I had around 25 years into it. My reason that I wanted to touch base with you is as much as I loved concrete pumping, I had to give it up because work was always very spotty very seldom could you have a full week of work. This was in San Diego back in 80s I had to give it up as my dad was always telling me you need to get a real job. But I would not listen because I loved it so much, I wish I could have made a good living at it, things would have been different as I left pumping and joined the carpenters where I then started to work steadier. I moved to the pacific northwest and tried pumping here and work was even slower I just shake my head and wish I could have worked with the economy of today. When I say pioneering, I mean that as when we would pull up on a job no one knew anything about pump designed concrete mixes. At the end of a pour after getting plugged 10 to 15 times I could not back the pump up as the pile of concrete was so high that you could not back the pump up. the last rigs that I ran was the Thompsen 2001 Whitman and finally the Schwing 42 meter. 28 and 36m Still to this day I still like to see the big machines pump It has come a long way from the 35 yard an hour pumps at best, when I started You are one of the best pump men, I have ever seen Now at 73 years of age I still follow pumping and have a 28m 36m 42m model pumps just like a kid. Keep up the great content and I have learned a lot but probably will never use it in this lifetime. I still get the concrete Pumping and Placing magazine thanks again John May Yes it was almost starving to death trying to do this for a living. OH, one more thing, every pump contractor were thieves. I had Dwain Perin of American Concrete Pumping tell me that if he could screw every operator out of his overtime, he could make a payment on one of his pumps at the end of the month. Every company would not pay you to work on the equipment they said it is your responsibility and that way you would work. Dwain said as I told him once that I did not even get a thank you for rebuilding the boom pipe and staying up all night for a 600-yard pour He said he has over 30 Fing machines going out of the yard every say and do you think I have the time to shake every man's hand? One thing that does kind of scar me is seeing one operator on these big pumps. What happens if something goes wrong? We were always supplied with as oiler.
That’s an amazing history and past!!! My father and uncle first got into concrete like back in the 70’s with some of the very early Thompson equipment also. I could not agree with you more in terms of having two operators on the bigger machines. There’s just so much going on with these things, especially now with what is required for a safe setup. I truly believe that we will need to start implementing a second operator on these big-booms, or no one is going to want to operate them (a situation which we are already seeing in our market here). Really appreciate you sharing your story here with us 🙏🙏🙏
Let me tell you my man, we have all three of the aforementioned types through our doors over the years. It’s so interesting to watch someone evolve from one type to the next over the course of several years. Shit, I myself have been at least two of those three throughout my 24 years doing this.
Here in Central AB we have such a huge weather swing so winter months jobs get cut down by at least 60 percent so alot of the winter months we guarantee our guys 40 hrs a week so lots money spent by the company but its worth it to keep guys and get them rolling in the spring. Also some places dont have many shop hours or any, but our guys do oil changes and repairs like hopper rebuilds vs mechanics doing the work and taking hours from the operator's.
Im from Miami Florida im 33 just started in pumping concrete right now im SPB Operator love the job very intemidating at first but very relaxing job none the less once i get flowing. havent been assigned a building yet still completing training.
I'm a carpenter here in the Okanagan, but your chart reflects how things are here as well... pay is about the same as well. 15-20 years ago I would've been "John", but these days I'm thinking I'm "Jim", my body has seen much better days.
Wow, down here in Florida I heard that 75M operator makes 35hr. Other companies don't even pay $25 for operating a 50+ meter boom. Most don't even pay over time. Hearing those numbers just left me flabbergasted
I’ve heard Florida is one of the lowest paying states and not so coincidentally has some of the lowest pump rental rates. I’m assuming that the basic cost of living there must be accordingly low? Please keep in mind that we here are working with Canadian dollars and as such you can add basically 30% to the cost of everything…. except for housing, here in the Vancouver market, add 400% for that.
Solid Video mate, i knew you would but im glad you added the caveat on cost of living reflecting wages, I work in a rural area and dont make nearly what I could in a capital city, but we dont do the same work, we dont do the high rise, we do commercial work but not every day, my job is simply not the same as the guys working in the city and my cost of living isnt nearly the same, 4 hrs north or 4 hrs south i would have had to pay 6-7x what i paid for my house, I travel 6 minutes to work every day not 60. Over the years we've had guys come with job adverts from the big citys wondering why they dont get the same coin, its just not the same job, even if its nominally the same job title
This is spot on for the washington dc area too. $41 per hour. 3% match to 401k. Time and a half after 40 hours. No double time except on sundays but that almost never happens.
The one key thing here is that we’re working on Canadian dollars, and also basic goods/services are typically 30% more expensive as compared to most areas of the US.
In the Netherlands we have union-negotiated wages for pumpers (and mixer drivers), 18 - 20 eu per hour, 3200-3400 per month; OT isn't paid out, but you can take it as time off whenever you want to. Social security, medical & pension are paid for by the company on top of your wages, but this goes for every worker here. Phone & CDL costs are also covered by company. CDL renewal is every 5 years, this includes 35 hours of mandatory training(EU rules) and medical check up.
Perhaps if we had that same mandated 35 hours of driver training every 5 years, we would have dump-trucks wiping out freeway overpasses multiple times per week (not even kidding).
The problem I have with the pumping market is being able to adjust pay directly to skill of an operator. I have zero issue paying for quality, but far to often I see the average or "10 year rookie" getting premium pay. In my area it's more of a company to company problem. But agitating to see.
Because it's hard work. 11 years working in the industry 5 as a driver 6 as an operator. And as a concrete truck driver, you are not interested in the conditions at the construction site, you only reverse and unload the goods, etc. And as an operator, you have to set the equipment safely, and usually the space is limited, and you are often the link between the construction site and the company, which means you have a whole pie on your head, not to mention that there are always situations like the pump is too short and you have to use hoses or improvise. Most drivers are lazy, so there are few who want to prove themselves as a pump operator. From experience, I will say that after 3 months, 90% of adepts throw the controller and prefer to turn the steering wheel.
@piotres7358 that's comparing pay between jobs, I'm meaning strictly the same job. Yes of course the more demanded of an individual the more the reward should be. But going strictly off seniority or years put in doesnt always mean experience and quality, and that's what the businesses and contractors want, someone competent that's motivated to do right by standards and turn profit.
This could not be more true. I’ve seen 10 year operators who weren’t worth $15 an hour and 5 year guys whom were worth $50. And the double-whammy of it all is that the more competent you are as an operator, the greasier the jobs you get because the no-minds are just simply incapable of doing them.
I've been pumping for 3 years. started out in a 39 z fold. moved up to a 46 schwing shortly after. About 9 months ago I got moved up to a 58 schwing. I just turned 25 last month and i'm making 31 hr. I'll be asking my boss for a raise up to 38 when the new year rolls around. Pump and dump baby!
Here in Hungary, the average pump operator(24-28m pumps), make about 15 CAD/ hour. No overtime payment, no bonuses. 55 hours per week comes to 825 CAD.
Numbers out west here have been creeping up over the past couple of years, but we’re still behind where you guys are at. Not only in terms of wages, but also pump rental rates, which has always baffled me considering that Vancouver and Toronto share very similar costs of living and presumably costs of operating a business. West Coast is a bit of a funny/strange market. I think much of it has to do with the fact that we have easy access to equipment from our location. It will be interesting to see how the mandatory operator certification affects things once implemented in the new year here.
Here in Houston I make $37 an hour operating a 43 meter 50-70 hours a week paid weekly,I recommend this over driving 18 wheelers yeah you work long hours but the pay is good
@@supadave3210 That’s a great wage!!! Factoring the cost of living etc…., I’m betting up here we’d have to be in the mid-$60’s to be comparable to that.
@@supadave3210 That’s stellar man!!!! Even at $50 per hour, we’re lucky to bring home $2600 per week after taxes. Our socialist government doing what it does best I suppose….
Hi ! Scott in Nova scotia our wage is between 28 and 35 hour we do a average of 50 hours all year long winter is not very hard here so we don’t slow down to much we pay benefits and double time is after 110 hour every two week if you reach 110 hours .
How’s real estate pricing out that way (average 35 year old single detached home)??? I’ve that utilities (gas electricity) can be quite costly. Yes/no?
John was me for the longest time. Now my old body reminds me that is not happening anymore. Especially when I’m doing a lot of line pump jobs. 😂 I still love pumping
Im a line pump operator out of calgary alberta, been running line pumps for 5+ years as a solo operator, my boss has incredible connections for work and is a fantastic guy, ill be honest i make $34 an hour which i feel is fair, but i get no overtime and no benefits. pros and cons, im a stoner ngl and my boss has no problems with me being high AF whenever i wantb but ill blaze up and work all day eh, functional i guess. any tips for me brother? driving a boom pump in vancouver traffic must be hell eh? alot of people i know say i should get a loan and get my own line pump setup. best of luck brother
There’s pros and cons to working anywhere. There’s much to be said for enjoying going to work everyday, making enough to pay your bills, and having some leftover to put in the bank. I’ve seen many guys bounce around year after year chasing an extra buck or two an hour. I’d recommend to anyone just to find ling where you’re happy and is a good fit. Vancouver traffic absolutely SUCKS!!!! Thank god for automatic transmissions in some of these newer rigs. I would only ever recommend someone to go out on their own in this business if they are ready to put in the time not only pumping concrete, but also chasing bills and also doing repairs. It’s definitely not a case of missing out on easy money, no such thing here. Concrete pumping can be a gruelling business.
We had an op. whom moved back to Ontario and we still keep in touch with. He raves about the pay-scale in comparison to out west here. The trade-off: dealing with 4 and 5 inch hose 😂😂😂
Quite honestly, most every pumping company I know of is hiring. Speaking personally: the most important thing we look for on a resume is references (previous bosses, high-school sports coaches, etc… the most important trait for success in this business is character. Nothing speaks to a persons character like strong references. List your references rated than the usual “references available upon request”. Anyone who’s confident on their last work:volunteer experience will be eager to share their references. If/when you get hired on: ask questions and be proactive rather than hanging back and waiting to be told what’s next. I can usually tell working the first day or two if someone is cutout for this business, it’s 95% attitude. If you can keep off your phone you’ll already be light years ahead of most the rest if todays available labour pool.
Hello boys I work concrete pumps in Greece about 18 years 5 to 6 days a week and about 60 to 80 hours overtime a month and im getting about 1800euros to 2000euros a month very bad salaries here
Best way would be to apply at most any pumping company. The industry currently has a real shortage of younger folks such as yourself to train in the trade. It’s a safe bet to say that most any company right now would be thrilled at the prospect of hiring on a young person with a good attitude to train as a pump operator from the ground up.
Also this is somewhat abstract without understanding what the rates are for concrete pumps in Vancouver hourly. If you provide that for context then it make sense. Because then most guys would likely just average out their local rates to their salary for a better guesstimate. This is great information nonetheless Scott and a step forward for the industry as a hole! Concrete Pumping HOF on the way
I would love more than anything to chat pricing, but it’s a bit of a “hot potato” due to the risk of triggering the price fixing police 😂😂😂. So true that in that the wage paid is going to directly correlate with the cost of living which is going to directly correlate with rates charged which is going directly correlate with the cost of building/development…. Except in Vancouver here, which is perhaps the least sensical market on the globe (and not just the concrete pumping/construction market side of things either).
@@canadianconcretepumper1979 yeah at first i thought man those rates and the taxes i found from quick google crash course vancouver was the place to be. Then you said $1.0M> for a detached home and I literally paused. So yeah I get it.
Well shoot, that could be almost an entire video in itself. But here’s a ballpark answer: if you can keep it busy (which in our market means roughly $400K per year in gross revenue), you can expect to keep the roughly $120K which you’d otherwise be paying an operator to run it for you, plus 10% of the 400K gross number. So, $120K + $40K= 160K. This is just me calculating things based on what I know of our market. Other feel free to chime in here with real world numbers.
I'd say, but down south I've yet to find a pump company doing 401k's. Still, if you want more hours and make a great mechanic, our company could use you. I'm just an operator, I don't know your circumstances.
Lol!!!! And here I had put so much effort into using names which bared no resemblance to the real Joe’s/John’s/Jim’s of the world… or at least my world, apparently…. 😂😂😂
Hello, please tell me, throughout Canada, such conditions that the operator of a concrete pump truck must control the boom and simultaneously hold the hose? Before moving to Canada, he worked in Europe for more than 8 years and never had to operate the installation and at the same time hold the end hose))) I'm getting used to the new Canadian realities , just wondering is this a common thing for a concrete truck operator in Canada?
In our market it’s not unheard of for a line-pump operator to run the hose for the placers. That being said, it’s also by no means a requirement. Boom pump operator is a different story, that’s a big no bueno around here.
for a linear pump, this is a standard procedure, but for a boom pump, in our company, the operator controls the boom and holds the end hose at the same time
@@dmytroturabov1426 it’s a big no-no over here for a boom pump operator to also run the hose. Safety authority will throw the book at you if there were ever an incident.
I don’t know why, but in our company it has been such a rule for more than 30 years that the operator of the concrete pump operates the boom and holds the distributing hose at the same time. For me at first it was not usual, but I’m getting used to it every day and with every pour))) I hope that soon become one of our extra hose operators)))
@@dmytroturabov1426 the issue I have with said practice is that if a boom operator is running the hose/looking down, then he likely isn’t looking up/aware of exactly where his book os in relation to trees/powerlines. Just my take on it.
I stopped at 65 because as we all know, it’s illegal to work more than 14 hours per day…. or at least to drive the pump on public roads after 14 hours. 😂😂😂
When you operate in a low cost living area, this "double time" factor really pisses me off. Personally, I fall in tween the "Jim" and "John" only bcz I work most Saturdays. My home is paid for, my bills are manageable. And paid a 40 hour guarantee (rain outs) with overtime included. Moving could be a big mistake after 50, especially when family's in driving distance. Ive pumped more for other places with better pay, but family matters. Still. Imagine country living and commuting over an hour to the shop daily. On top of your workday as an operator. I would love, love, LOVE to pump for someone in my area who'd allow me to work an assigned pump from my home. Unfortunately, mechanics dont like having to drive an hour to my home when issues pop up. I dont blame them.
@@slydale It’s so true. I occasionally bring the pump home and park it across the street from my place. At the end of a long day (as well as the start of an earlier one) it makes a WORLD OF DIFFERENCE. That’s 1.5-2 hours of family time a hey back per day rather than being stuck in stop ‘N go freeway traffic. Also saves a ton of fuel and wear and tear on the rig as well. Win-win, in my opinion.
We ourselves are not. There’s only a couple of union pumping company’s out this way, and I would say about half of the ready mix trucks on the road are unionized. Seems to be much more prominent in Eastern Canada.
Our taxation structure combined with CCP (Canadian Pension Plan) as well as unemployment employment insurance deductions, that operator grossing $195K is taking home roughly $125K after all deductions.
That’s a damn good idea!!!. I can include my now well rehearsed speech about how cutting sponges, losing sledgehammers, and running the machine at 1400 rpm versus 1750 are the differences between the company making or losing money.
@@canadianconcretepumper1979 It's always a fun surprise when you pull up to a job and the contractor gives you clamps you didn't know you left behind at the last job 🤣
My boss is far to greedy to pay anywhere close to $40. Pumping is a Passion for me and it took a good ol coming to God meeting to get any kind of raise ! I've been Pumping almost 20 years, done Mostly heavy commercial in a local mine and a fare amount of residential
That’s the thing. You’ve really got to be passionate about this to choose it as a career. Owning pumps is a huge some of capital to invest for 7%-ish annual returns. Sometimes there just ain’t any more to give.
When u turn into John making big money everyone starts bitching that your truck is paid off, you have extra money saved up if it gets slow here and there. When the new pump shows up you get it. You invite the turds out for a big pour and they don’t want to do it. Too much work 🖕🏼. Heard the game and lived the game as John for 6.5 years and I don’t miss it.
Agreed. I’ve seen very few maintain a “Johnlike” pace for more the a few years without it causing problems outside of the workplace. Not to say it can’t be done long-term, but it does come with major sacrifice and/or compromise, in my opinion.
LOTS of opportunity for pump operators in most parts of Canada (and the US for that matter), just need to pursue the appropriate avenues in terms of work permits etc….
I know right? Our entire industry complains about how we can’t find operators, yet we often pay a pump operator less than what a mixer driver makes. I blame it on the pump market being flooded with cheap equipment for so many years, it really did decimate the rates in our region, and many others as well from what I hear.
Here in occupied Palestine I get paid 6000shekels a month which is 1800$ a month .. work time 12 hours a day .. I work on schwing 34meters .. your wages are pretty crazy compared to us😢😢 😂
@@canadianconcretepumper1979 very true, the prices which obvs differ to what other companys pay. From 20m upto 31m £17 an hour for 10hr then £24 OT. From 31m upto 67m ranges from £18.50 upto £27
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This week,. 4-10th september 2023, was a busy week for me. Running out 70h, spread over 6 days.
Total salary for me ends up with salary of canadian dollars 3 595,20. From norwegian (playdoh) currency.
We have 100% overtime from 1530 to 7, of the hour we pump, 50% after 1530 on hours we dont bills the customers, repairs and such in the yard.
We run addition on hoses, fixed extra equals to 1,5h after 12h of work, and about 1/5th of the hour pay in addition of hourly pay when pumping concrete.
When doing an estimate, a yearly salary in norway will be around 134K cad.
Thank you so much for the detailed breakdown. It’s always interesting to see pay structure as well as invoicing structure from markets outside of our own.
@canadianconcretepumper1979 im the kind of Johnny who don't have a life outside of work. Taking everything I can get. Don't know how to say the 2 letter word starting with n, ending with o!
A whole lot of operators gonna be requesting sit downs with Management after this one 😅
Hi, I want to say I really enjoy your channel. I am a old pioneer in concrete pumping. I started with something you may have never heard of the Thompsen 640 lattice booms we had to put these together in the morning and break it down to travel home. I love your content on your channel how you take a person from the yard to the job site setting up doing the pour and going through the cleanup. You remind me of myself as I had a love for concrete pumping as well. At the time I gave it up I had around 25 years into it. My reason that I wanted to touch base with you is as much as I loved concrete pumping, I had to give it up because work was always very spotty very seldom could you have a full week of work. This was in San Diego back in 80s I had to give it up as my dad was always telling me you need to get a real job. But I would not listen because I loved it so much, I wish I could have made a good living at it, things would have been different as I left pumping and joined the carpenters where I then started to work steadier. I moved to the pacific northwest and tried pumping here and work was even slower I just shake my head and wish I could have worked with the economy of today. When I say pioneering, I mean that as when we would pull up on a job no one knew anything about pump designed concrete mixes. At the end of a pour after getting plugged 10 to 15 times I could not back the pump up as the pile of concrete was so high that you could not back the pump up. the last rigs that I ran was the Thompsen 2001 Whitman and finally the Schwing 42 meter. 28 and 36m Still to this day I still like to see the big machines pump It has come a long way from the 35 yard an hour pumps at best, when I started You are one of the best pump men, I have ever seen Now at 73 years of age I still follow pumping and have a 28m 36m 42m model pumps just like a kid. Keep up the great content and I have learned a lot but probably will never use it in this lifetime. I still get the concrete Pumping and Placing magazine thanks again John May Yes it was almost starving to death trying to do this for a living. OH, one more thing, every pump contractor were thieves. I had Dwain Perin of American Concrete Pumping tell me that if he could screw every operator out of his overtime, he could make a payment on one of his pumps at the end of the month. Every company would not pay you to work on the equipment they said it is your responsibility and that way you would work. Dwain said as I told him once that I did not even get a thank you for rebuilding the boom pipe and staying up all night for a 600-yard pour He said he has over 30 Fing machines going out of the yard every say and do you think I have the time to shake every man's hand? One thing that does kind of scar me is seeing one operator on these big pumps. What happens if something goes wrong? We were always supplied with as oiler.
That’s an amazing history and past!!! My father and uncle first got into concrete like back in the 70’s with some of the very early Thompson equipment also.
I could not agree with you more in terms of having two operators on the bigger machines. There’s just so much going on with these things, especially now with what is required for a safe setup. I truly believe that we will need to start implementing a second operator on these big-booms, or no one is going to want to operate them (a situation which we are already seeing in our market here).
Really appreciate you sharing your story here with us 🙏🙏🙏
love the detailed description of the guys too
Let me tell you my man, we have all three of the aforementioned types through our doors over the years. It’s so interesting to watch someone evolve from one type to the next over the course of several years. Shit, I myself have been at least two of those three throughout my 24 years doing this.
Here in Central AB we have such a huge weather swing so winter months jobs get cut down by at least 60 percent so alot of the winter months we guarantee our guys 40 hrs a week so lots money spent by the company but its worth it to keep guys and get them rolling in the spring. Also some places dont have many shop hours or any, but our guys do oil changes and repairs like hopper rebuilds vs mechanics doing the work and taking hours from the operator's.
Always a bonus for both employer and employee when operators are well-versed like that 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
That's the way to go the staff get to know the equipment quite well that way.
Im from Miami Florida im 33 just started in pumping concrete right now im SPB Operator love the job very intemidating at first but very relaxing job none the less once i get flowing. havent been assigned a building yet still completing training.
Congrats man! It’s an exciting career. 24 years now and I still love/hate it every single day!
I'm a carpenter here in the Okanagan, but your chart reflects how things are here as well... pay is about the same as well. 15-20 years ago I would've been "John", but these days I'm thinking I'm "Jim", my body has seen much better days.
Wow, down here in Florida I heard that 75M operator makes 35hr. Other companies don't even pay $25 for operating a 50+ meter boom. Most don't even pay over time. Hearing those numbers just left me flabbergasted
I’ve heard Florida is one of the lowest paying states and not so coincidentally has some of the lowest pump rental rates. I’m assuming that the basic cost of living there must be accordingly low?
Please keep in mind that we here are working with Canadian dollars and as such you can add basically 30% to the cost of everything…. except for housing, here in the Vancouver market, add 400% for that.
49.70 plus full benefits, 14 per hour to pension, and lots of hours. Local 139
$195k last year
God bless America!!!
@@canadianconcretepumper1979 Amen brother
No unions in fl 😫
@@newrealm9187 still made 45 in north Texas. I don't know what your skill set is, but the more versatile you are, the more you make. Just my .02
56.10 here in the Chicago land , local 150
Solid Video mate, i knew you would but im glad you added the caveat on cost of living reflecting wages, I work in a rural area and dont make nearly what I could in a capital city, but we dont do the same work, we dont do the high rise, we do commercial work but not every day, my job is simply not the same as the guys working in the city and my cost of living isnt nearly the same, 4 hrs north or 4 hrs south i would have had to pay 6-7x what i paid for my house, I travel 6 minutes to work every day not 60. Over the years we've had guys come with job adverts from the big citys wondering why they dont get the same coin, its just not the same job, even if its nominally the same job title
This is spot on for the washington dc area too. $41 per hour. 3% match to 401k. Time and a half after 40 hours. No double time except on sundays but that almost never happens.
The one key thing here is that we’re working on Canadian dollars, and also basic goods/services are typically 30% more expensive as compared to most areas of the US.
In the Netherlands we have union-negotiated wages for pumpers (and mixer drivers), 18 - 20 eu per hour, 3200-3400 per month; OT isn't paid out, but you can take it as time off whenever you want to. Social security, medical & pension are paid for by the company on top of your wages, but this goes for every worker here. Phone & CDL costs are also covered by company. CDL renewal is every 5 years, this includes 35 hours of mandatory training(EU rules) and medical check up.
Perhaps if we had that same mandated 35 hours of driver training every 5 years, we would have dump-trucks wiping out freeway overpasses multiple times per week (not even kidding).
Même chose en belgique 😊
The problem I have with the pumping market is being able to adjust pay directly to skill of an operator. I have zero issue paying for quality, but far to often I see the average or "10 year rookie" getting premium pay. In my area it's more of a company to company problem. But agitating to see.
Because it's hard work. 11 years working in the industry 5 as a driver 6 as an operator. And as a concrete truck driver, you are not interested in the conditions at the construction site, you only reverse and unload the goods, etc. And as an operator, you have to set the equipment safely, and usually the space is limited, and you are often the link between the construction site and the company, which means you have a whole pie on your head, not to mention that there are always situations like the pump is too short and you have to use hoses or improvise. Most drivers are lazy, so there are few who want to prove themselves as a pump operator. From experience, I will say that after 3 months, 90% of adepts throw the controller and prefer to turn the steering wheel.
@piotres7358 that's comparing pay between jobs, I'm meaning strictly the same job. Yes of course the more demanded of an individual the more the reward should be. But going strictly off seniority or years put in doesnt always mean experience and quality, and that's what the businesses and contractors want, someone competent that's motivated to do right by standards and turn profit.
This could not be more true. I’ve seen 10 year operators who weren’t worth $15 an hour and 5 year guys whom were worth $50. And the double-whammy of it all is that the more competent you are as an operator, the greasier the jobs you get because the no-minds are just simply incapable of doing them.
I've been pumping for 3 years. started out in a 39 z fold. moved up to a 46 schwing shortly after. About 9 months ago I got moved up to a 58 schwing. I just turned 25 last month and i'm making 31 hr. I'll be asking my boss for a raise up to 38 when the new year rolls around. Pump and dump baby!
Here in Hungary, the average pump operator(24-28m pumps), make about 15 CAD/ hour. No overtime payment, no bonuses.
55 hours per week comes to 825 CAD.
In uk the average pay for the boom pumps is about 50-60k gbp a year with average 50-60 hour week.
In Toronto we're pulling 51, double after 8 and before 7am. Grossing around 5k a week on 70hrs
Numbers out west here have been creeping up over the past couple of years, but we’re still behind where you guys are at. Not only in terms of wages, but also pump rental rates, which has always baffled me considering that Vancouver and Toronto share very similar costs of living and presumably costs of operating a business. West Coast is a bit of a funny/strange market. I think much of it has to do with the fact that we have easy access to equipment from our location. It will be interesting to see how the mandatory operator certification affects things once implemented in the new year here.
Here in Houston I make $37 an hour operating a 43 meter 50-70 hours a week paid weekly,I recommend this over driving 18 wheelers yeah you work long hours but the pay is good
@@supadave3210 That’s a great wage!!! Factoring the cost of living etc…., I’m betting up here we’d have to be in the mid-$60’s to be comparable to that.
@@canadianconcretepumper1979 thanks I can bring home $2,600 after taxes a week but sometimes I be like I got enough money lol I need rest
@@supadave3210 That’s stellar man!!!! Even at $50 per hour, we’re lucky to bring home $2600 per week after taxes. Our socialist government doing what it does best I suppose….
@@canadianconcretepumper1979 my wife be so excited when I get paid 🤦🏾♂️ 😂
@@supadave3210 Lol! Mine mostly just complains and questions me as to what happened to all the rest of it 😂😂😂
Hi ! Scott in Nova scotia our wage is between 28 and 35 hour we do a average of 50 hours all year long winter is not very hard here so we don’t slow down to much we pay benefits and double time is after 110 hour every two week if you reach 110 hours .
How’s real estate pricing out that way (average 35 year old single detached home)??? I’ve that utilities (gas electricity) can be quite costly. Yes/no?
Good information. Keep up the good work
John was me for the longest time. Now my old body reminds me that is not happening anymore. Especially when I’m doing a lot of line pump jobs. 😂 I still love pumping
@@mikeeemike988 My same story exactly. Thought I’d get rich working by the hour, then realized I wouldn’t. Save your money kids!!! 😂😂😂
love the dif style, good idea and interesting 4 sure
Yeah man, I figured peeps getting tired of watching me pump concrete into a hole, lol!
Im a line pump operator out of calgary alberta, been running line pumps for 5+ years as a solo operator, my boss has incredible connections for work and is a fantastic guy, ill be honest i make $34 an hour which i feel is fair, but i get no overtime and no benefits. pros and cons, im a stoner ngl and my boss has no problems with me being high AF whenever i wantb but ill blaze up and work all day eh, functional i guess. any tips for me brother? driving a boom pump in vancouver traffic must be hell eh? alot of people i know say i should get a loan and get my own line pump setup. best of luck brother
There’s pros and cons to working anywhere. There’s much to be said for enjoying going to work everyday, making enough to pay your bills, and having some leftover to put in the bank. I’ve seen many guys bounce around year after year chasing an extra buck or two an hour. I’d recommend to anyone just to find ling where you’re happy and is a good fit.
Vancouver traffic absolutely SUCKS!!!! Thank god for automatic transmissions in some of these newer rigs.
I would only ever recommend someone to go out on their own in this business if they are ready to put in the time not only pumping concrete, but also chasing bills and also doing repairs. It’s definitely not a case of missing out on easy money, no such thing here. Concrete pumping can be a gruelling business.
Local 793 in Ontario pays 50.... OT is only double time... before 7am / after 430pm.. weekends and holidays
We had an op. whom moved back to Ontario and we still keep in touch with. He raves about the pay-scale in comparison to out west here. The trade-off: dealing with 4 and 5 inch hose 😂😂😂
Hello. I'm willing to invest in pump truck to buy. Do you know what can I expect a year?
How much can I make a year self owning truck
im looking at getting into the pump business with no experience what would be your best advice as to finding somewhere to start working
Quite honestly, most every pumping company I know of is hiring. Speaking personally: the most important thing we look for on a resume is references (previous bosses, high-school sports coaches, etc… the most important trait for success in this business is character. Nothing speaks to a persons character like strong references. List your references rated than the usual “references available upon request”. Anyone who’s confident on their last work:volunteer experience will be eager to share their references. If/when you get hired on: ask questions and be proactive rather than hanging back and waiting to be told what’s next. I can usually tell working the first day or two if someone is cutout for this business, it’s 95% attitude. If you can keep off your phone you’ll already be light years ahead of most the rest if todays available labour pool.
Very good
Hello boys I work concrete pumps in Greece about 18 years 5 to 6 days a week and about 60 to 80 hours overtime a month and im getting about 1800euros to 2000euros a month very bad salaries here
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What's the best way to get into that line of work? Asking for a H.S. student that's trying to decide between trades and college.
Best way would be to apply at most any pumping company. The industry currently has a real shortage of younger folks such as yourself to train in the trade. It’s a safe bet to say that most any company right now would be thrilled at the prospect of hiring on a young person with a good attitude to train as a pump operator from the ground up.
Also this is somewhat abstract without understanding what the rates are for concrete pumps in Vancouver hourly. If you provide that for context then it make sense. Because then most guys would likely just average out their local rates to their salary for a better guesstimate.
This is great information nonetheless Scott and a step forward for the industry as a hole! Concrete Pumping HOF on the way
I would love more than anything to chat pricing, but it’s a bit of a “hot potato” due to the risk of triggering the price fixing police 😂😂😂. So true that in that the wage paid is going to directly correlate with the cost of living which is going to directly correlate with rates charged which is going directly correlate with the cost of building/development…. Except in Vancouver here, which is perhaps the least sensical market on the globe (and not just the concrete pumping/construction market side of things either).
@@canadianconcretepumper1979 yeah at first i thought man those rates and the taxes i found from quick google crash course vancouver was the place to be. Then you said $1.0M> for a detached home and I literally paused. So yeah I get it.
😅 He said "industry as a hole" 😆 meant "as a whole" 😆 sometimes it feels like a "hole" 😆 just say'n, guess I'm that "one guy in every shop" too, lol
How many hours a week was John working? 74?
I’m about buying a 42 m concrete pump truck. What’s the average can a owner self operator make?
Thanks
Well shoot, that could be almost an entire video in itself. But here’s a ballpark answer: if you can keep it busy (which in our market means roughly $400K per year in gross revenue), you can expect to keep the roughly $120K which you’d otherwise be paying an operator to run it for you, plus 10% of the 400K gross number. So, $120K + $40K= 160K. This is just me calculating things based on what I know of our market. Other feel free to chime in here with real world numbers.
Washington State, 30xhr 30-40 weekly, 20-25 on winter time, whitout 401k, probably am at the wrong company
I'd say, but down south I've yet to find a pump company doing 401k's. Still, if you want more hours and make a great mechanic, our company could use you. I'm just an operator, I don't know your circumstances.
What’s hilarious is I know literally three guys named joe who are just like the joe you have on the board😂
Lol!!!! And here I had put so much effort into using names which bared no resemblance to the real Joe’s/John’s/Jim’s of the world… or at least my world, apparently…. 😂😂😂
Hello, please tell me, throughout Canada, such conditions that the operator of a concrete pump truck must control the boom and simultaneously hold the hose? Before moving to Canada, he worked in Europe for more than 8 years and never had to operate the installation and at the same time hold the end hose))) I'm getting used to the new Canadian realities , just wondering is this a common thing for a concrete truck operator in Canada?
In our market it’s not unheard of for a line-pump operator to run the hose for the placers. That being said, it’s also by no means a requirement. Boom pump operator is a different story, that’s a big no bueno around here.
for a linear pump, this is a standard procedure, but for a boom pump, in our company, the operator controls the boom and holds the end hose at the same time
@@dmytroturabov1426 it’s a big no-no over here for a boom pump operator to also run the hose. Safety authority will throw the book at you if there were ever an incident.
I don’t know why, but in our company it has been such a rule for more than 30 years that the operator of the concrete pump operates the boom and holds the distributing hose at the same time. For me at first it was not usual, but I’m getting used to it every day and with every pour))) I hope that soon become one of our extra hose operators)))
@@dmytroturabov1426 the issue I have with said practice is that if a boom operator is running the hose/looking down, then he likely isn’t looking up/aware of exactly where his book os in relation to trees/powerlines. Just my take on it.
I like how you use John and I use to run like that every week.. 80-90 hrs a week.. only took home 1500 A week though 😢
I stopped at 65 because as we all know, it’s illegal to work more than 14 hours per day…. or at least to drive the pump on public roads after 14 hours. 😂😂😂
When you operate in a low cost living area, this "double time" factor really pisses me off. Personally, I fall in tween the "Jim" and "John" only bcz I work most Saturdays. My home is paid for, my bills are manageable. And paid a 40 hour guarantee (rain outs) with overtime included. Moving could be a big mistake after 50, especially when family's in driving distance. Ive pumped more for other places with better pay, but family matters. Still. Imagine country living and commuting over an hour to the shop daily. On top of your workday as an operator. I would love, love, LOVE to pump for someone in my area who'd allow me to work an assigned pump from my home. Unfortunately, mechanics dont like having to drive an hour to my home when issues pop up. I dont blame them.
@@slydale It’s so true. I occasionally bring the pump home and park it across the street from my place. At the end of a long day (as well as the start of an earlier one) it makes a WORLD OF DIFFERENCE. That’s 1.5-2 hours of family time a hey back per day rather than being stuck in stop ‘N go freeway traffic. Also saves a ton of fuel and wear and tear on the rig as well. Win-win, in my opinion.
Are you union out there ?
We ourselves are not. There’s only a couple of union pumping company’s out this way, and I would say about half of the ready mix trucks on the road are unionized. Seems to be much more prominent in Eastern Canada.
Did you give examples of operators' income before taxes? If it's not a secret, what tax did they pay on their salaries?
Our taxation structure combined with CCP (Canadian Pension Plan) as well as unemployment employment insurance deductions, that operator grossing $195K is taking home roughly $125K after all deductions.
Thank you
Now do one for pump company owners. We never clock out and all expenses for fuel and repairs are ours 😂
That’s a damn good idea!!!. I can include my now well rehearsed speech about how cutting sponges, losing sledgehammers, and running the machine at 1400 rpm versus 1750 are the differences between the company making or losing money.
@@canadianconcretepumper1979 yes! The sledgehammers! I’ve lost count of how many I’ve had to buy. Shovels too.
@@Andrew-Ponce clamp gaskets and safety pins have cause me many sessions in therapy 😂😂😂
@@canadianconcretepumper1979 It's always a fun surprise when you pull up to a job and the contractor gives you clamps you didn't know you left behind at the last job 🤣
john needs to get into real estate asap. an apartment complex
Or start up a RUclips channel😁😁😁
@@canadianconcretepumper1979 its hard to make money on youtube tho. I finally cleared 10k and tbh thats only like 5 bucks an hour, if that
My boss is far to greedy to pay anywhere close to $40. Pumping is a Passion for me and it took a good ol coming to God meeting to get any kind of raise !
I've been Pumping almost 20 years, done Mostly heavy commercial in a local mine and a fare amount of residential
That’s the thing. You’ve really got to be passionate about this to choose it as a career. Owning pumps is a huge some of capital to invest for 7%-ish annual returns. Sometimes there just ain’t any more to give.
@@canadianconcretepumper1979 That is an underrated comment right there. That is really not that high given all the risks involved.
When u turn into John making big money everyone starts bitching that your truck is paid off, you have extra money saved up if it gets slow here and there. When the new pump shows up you get it. You invite the turds out for a big pour and they don’t want to do it. Too much work 🖕🏼. Heard the game and lived the game as John for 6.5 years and I don’t miss it.
Agreed. I’ve seen very few maintain a “Johnlike” pace for more the a few years without it causing problems outside of the workplace. Not to say it can’t be done long-term, but it does come with major sacrifice and/or compromise, in my opinion.
hi
Im korean concretepump operator can I work pumps in canada?
in korea operators works over 80hours in week(5days) and pay for 5,021$ for month
LOTS of opportunity for pump operators in most parts of Canada (and the US for that matter), just need to pursue the appropriate avenues in terms of work permits etc….
I wouldn’t run pump for 40 bucks an hour. We got mixer drivers in the valley making that much now lol
I know right? Our entire industry complains about how we can’t find operators, yet we often pay a pump operator less than what a mixer driver makes. I blame it on the pump market being flooded with cheap equipment for so many years, it really did decimate the rates in our region, and many others as well from what I hear.
200k is def achievable in the concrete , but not easy.
Where the hell do I sign up? 😂
I’m fairly certain that most every concrete pumping company on the North American continent is currently hiring 😁😁😁
@@canadianconcretepumper1979 I'm going to start looking at pumping, I did some placement and finish but nothing really big.
Those numbers are right on with what we make here in ohio
Depends on how much you need to go home and how much sleep you need😂
Here in occupied Palestine I get paid 6000shekels a month which is 1800$ a month .. work time 12 hours a day .. I work on schwing 34meters .. your wages are pretty crazy compared to us😢😢 😂
Our cost of living (especially here in Vancouver) is outrageous. Even at these wages, most of us are living paycheck to paycheck.
Think i may have to immagrate from the uk 😂
Wages look great on the surface, until you get out here and see what taxation rate, as well as overall cost of living are like.
@@canadianconcretepumper1979 very true, the prices which obvs differ to what other companys pay. From 20m upto 31m £17 an hour for 10hr then £24 OT. From 31m upto 67m ranges from £18.50 upto £27
I make about 120,000$ a year working hard everyday .. 7 days a week
In which state do you make this much money?
@@azer4588 Hawaii
@@azer4588 you need work lmk as long as you got a license to drive 🤙🏽
Bien loin de ces salaires en france entre 45/50 heures semaines tu peines a faire 2300€ en oprerateur pompe a béton je parle 🤔
Can I get job at your place
Absolutely! Just keep in mind that the average price for a detached home in our region is well north of a million dollars 😁😁😁
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Who, being in very nature God,
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And being found in appearance as a man,
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note to self: stay clear of sleep deprived concrete pump drivers when driving on the highway
We turn into pumpkins beyond 14 hours of service and are required to Uber back from the job site.