(1654) Review: Multipick Special Cracker for Euro Cylinders
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- Опубликовано: 9 сен 2024
- In video 1654 I demonstrate the Multipick Special Cracker, a specialized tool to defeat Euro cylinders destructively. I'm usually not too excited about destructive entries but used this as an excuse to build a jig so the LockCam could see what is happening inside the lock while the cracker is doing its thing.
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Love it, who needs to use a table when cutting with saw, Bill only needs a 5 gallon bucket, exactly as I would have done. Great review Bill love your skills and teaching! Truly a wonderful person!!
5-gallon bucket = cheap. Table = not cheap. 😀
I’m impressed with your wood working skills
You forgot the word "NOT"....😀
@@bosnianbill I think you meant Knot, it is wood you are working with...
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@@bosnianbill Come on, that was a lot of good work for just breaking one cheap cylinder.
@@bosnianbill modest you are. Quick and dirty got the job done
In the Balkans (Eastern Europe) we call it the cannon, because it remind it to a cannon tube, and it's common among thieves.
In the Netherlands, this mode of burglary is called the "Bulgarian method". Probably for a good reason :)
@@kaasmeester5903 "Bulgarian method" involves using an Adjustable Wrench to break the lock, "the cannon" is used by wealthier thieves. :-)
Great videos, like how you show or let us hear what's going on in the locks. I've been a locksmith for 30 years but I learn something new almost every day, watching you included. Thnx Bill
Oh man, I love seeing a good glue squish when the clamps tighten. You're a man after my own heart.
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Being a postman in the UK and out of all the doors I deliver to that have these euro locks only about 3% of them are exposed the other 97% are either flush or recessed so buying a $100 tool to get through about 3% of the euro locks is a little pointless
That or they have "spinners" on them like mine covering the lock and suicide cylinders are more common than you think. This has been a known attack for awhile so this tool would have limited use over here in the UK.
Having them not stick out is also like, item 1 in the installation manual. It’s why you get these cylinders in 5mm increments, and why a cylinder that’s rated at 2 or 3 stars also has to have matching 2 or 3 star mounting hardware around it before it counts as being that good. Because it you can pry the mounting hardware off and then stick a snapper on, you’re also fine. The mounting hardware in the video is not outdoor rated. It even has visible screws on the outside, as installed, which is... completely bonkers. Also this cylinder isn’t very strong.
@@PoisonedAl they get used all the time, especially on rental properties as most landlords will chuck any old crap in .
I think the real point is Europe has superior locks to America in general.
Still a informative video by a man with passion. That’s enough to hold my attention and am grateful Bill makes such videos.
Cheers
Good to see that they tend to be flush / recessed now... I'm sure mine isn't :-/
Appreciate all the extra work that went into this for a good demo! Thanks Bill!
That's incredible, how the lock just came apart like a peace of clay
I'm lucky to have an EVVA (I chose that based on lock picking videos) with a protective shield on the outside and only sticking out by 1mm on the inside. The door itself is Class 3 which exceeds the insurance requirements.
There is also an attack that shears the M5 bolt that holds the cylinder inside. That's why Evva cylinders come with a hardened bolt.
Some mortise locks have a feature that detects the snapping and seizes the lock. This prolongs resistance and prevents non-destructive entry.
The handle assembly that you used is very cheap. Most main entrance doors have a much sturdier one that doesn't allow you to wiggle the cylinder.
One reason why Evvas have that special spine is modularity. A licensed locksmith will be able to adjust the length to make it protrude less. Or to reach through if you have extra thick door.
The cheapest breakable cylinders are called construction cylinders because they are meant to be used while various workers take turns in the complex. Once the final owner moves in, he is supposed to swap it with his own, more secure cylinder. But some people just don't care until burglary happens. Actually, some people don't even care after that!
VAT varies by country in the EU. In some countries it's 19%, or 38% on some items. In the UK it's 20%.
Yes. Our tax is 15% for food, 21% for most things and hundreds of percent for alcohol and cigarettes. There are other special rules.
It used to be less, I guess the voters fell for a scoundrel.
For some reason I expected bill to use the This Old Tony one inch punch to cut the wood
Hey NOBODY uses the ToT punch except ToT !
When I heard that music I was thinking the same thing.
Most conventional door handle covers in Europe actually protect from attacks like this by not letting it protrude from the cover. You're looking at a pretty cheapo or ancient door if it has this vulnerability, which probably won't hold many valuables.
Some of them have a cuts on the chamber, some thing like "controlled damage zone"
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I don't remember seeing a lock installed this way in France, they all seem to be flush.
They stick out like that in the UK... but it does make sense to mount them flush.
Exactly. Why they aren't flush after making such nice, small keyways amazes me. Seems like common sense.
I've seen them stick out in France as well. Sorry neighbour ;P
Some places in Germany have cone shaped attachments on the front door to make the cylinder fit flush, while the high security doors have them recessed with a spinner in front of it.
James Gray badly fitted ones do, they should be flush! Mine all are but I’ve seen ones that stick out.
While the “face” is the same size, there are many variations with different length and how much closer the actuator center is to one of both sides - exactly to enable a flush installation. For example, a “35/50” cylinder is 35 millimetres to one side and 50 millimetres to the other side (and a total length of 85mm).
And it’s not only common sense to install the lock at least on the outer side flush, it’s also mandated by many European insurance companies (yet few ones don’t mind if it’s protruding on the outside by a millimetre, while others require “either flush with any cylinder or up to 3mm protruding of a cylinder with special extraction protection”).
Im in Scandinavia so naturally i have a RUKO euro cylinder.
Just checked and my Euro cylinder sticks out less than a millimeter so this tool will do nothing to my door :)
Also a pane of 2 layer glass for the least expensive window i own will only set me back about $50, so if i were ever locked out i would just smash that glass, make a plywood sized glass to install until i got the new window :)
Oh and when you extract the tool there is actually a small indent where the tool was used.
John Doe Burglars in the UK use mole grips to break off the part of the handle plate that covers the end of the eurocylinder and snap the cylinders usually at the same time...
I saw that small indentation on the lower left.
That's why you always have the customer sign a waiver for loss damage when entry in unconventional.
@@robertspano4003 Mine is a rather slim one in a plastic door.
Also, if they want to attack my 2 doors with locks, they better put on a hood unless they want to be identified by the camera's i have
Oh and if they do put on a mask and do it anyway, they will have 20 seconds to disable the alarm. When the alarm goes off, all the light in front of our house starts flashing red, which is a real attention getter.
It's not about making it impossible to get in, it's just about making it a big enough hazzle that they choose to break into next door instead.
Here most burglars are from eastern european countries, they want to hit multiple houses in a neighborhood, so if there is a chance that they will set off an alarm, they wont try to break in, as this will prevent them from hitting any more houses in that neighborhood, that night.
Presumably it won't work against anti-snap barrels either. Thankfully the external face of mine (I'm in the UK) are recessed about 1mm so no gripping.
LPL: builds a rack for a keypad lock
Bill: builds a freaking DOOR
And that is why I installed a correctly sized, sacrificial snap cylinder and hardened handle set when I moved in over 10 years ago 😊
Over in my area of the UK the housing associations tend to install euro cylinders with 15mm+ of external stickout for the exact reason of snapping them should they ever need entry. One of them has started fitting TS007 3* cylinders on their new door refurbs though (while probably keeping a key and the key code card).
I love your videos, you’re so multi talented and hard working. I’ve learned so much from you over the last couple years. Thank you!
Indeed! Very nice work Bill!
I came for the lock tech... I stayed for the woodworking though. Loved to see you building the frame, simple but hecking effective way to show off the tool.
A friend of mine here in Ireland used to work for a pvc window/door factory. He told me that he sometimes would have to break locks on houses - damaged locks, helping emergency services gaining access etc. He was a bit hesitant to tell me how they actually did it but eventually explained that they just used a pair of vice grips. Remove the trim around the lock, use the vice grips, open the door and replace the lock.......10 minutes work and away home.
Wow! That's a LOT of prep work to setup that door mechanism.
And this is why you are the coolest guy on youtube. Thanks for all you do Bill!
Cool demo! I've never seen one of these and probably wouldn't have guessed they'd be that effective. Great video!
An engineer and now a carpenter Bill. Great video .
Worth mentioning, that alot of euro cylinders I have come across in the uk are anti snap and have a break point before the actuator so you can just snap the lock.
If they only have a sacrificial line then you can bridge that with a screw down the keyway and the these work fine.
Damn. That “mock” door was creative as hell.
Excellent job there Bill..
Is it weird that I'd rather win those locks to practice picking? Very cool & handy tool, but it's not something that most LockSport folks can use. Awesome build & use of the lock cam to show what is happening inside the lock!
John Larson agree 💯 wouldn’t mind a few of those locks to pick at!
I get a loads of practice locks though work,most are crap but I do get the occasional kaba or bramah.
And this is why this is the best lock channel :->
And to think the company I rent my apartment from ordered me to remove the snap resistant Euro lock I fitted when my tenancy became secure, not gonna lie I laughed at them and said "my insurance company refused me coverage unless it was fitted, I'm fitting other devices to get an actual discount" they tried to evict me and the court judge said I'm well within my rights to improve the security of my home.
@@ts757arse I was able to rake the lock on the entry door to the communal area with hair pins and the junk lock box the company kept the service keys I opened with a homemade feeler gauge knife and replaced it with a decent box recommended by the police with the same code for the maintenance folks, I even added hinge bolts to my apartment door as well as other stuff.
dave smith the property belongs to them and you have no rights at all to change the locks! Even if it is not as secure as you would like it to be, it’s not yours to change. I have the same shitty situation with my flat and I’m a locksmith!
@@GxAxV weirdly they're cool with the key box being changed, housing associations are tricky with the contracts and rental agreements, but a judge saying I can do it is enough for me.
It's not like I've fitted a vault tech door 🙄
GxAxV that may be true in the US, but over here you totally do have the right to change the locks. In fact, over here you have the *obligation* to pay for maintenance to locks. Unless it’s specifically mentioned in the lease contract, they don’t get a copy of the new key either.
@@GxAxV So in America the landlord has the right to root through your shit when you're not at home? F*** that!
Gee Bill, thank you for this "show". I like all the time and effort you went to so that we would have a much better view of the lock breaking.
Very insteresting. I have lived in Europe all My life and have never come acrosse a eurolock... Nice to finaly see one mounted.
Nice that you made a door for it
Hi Bill, I live in Europe. A while ago we had people from the city watch checking locks on the front doors in my street. Anyone with a lock that was not flush with the besel, got a note saying they should fix that. :) Also people with very old normal cylinders with wide keyways got a note that they should consider replacing it.
It is things like this that make me miss living in Europe. People looking out for their community and each other. If a neighborhood watch tried something like this here they’d get sued for trespassing instead of the homeowner’s gratitude.
In Israel the vast majority of door locks are this style of locks, although some of the more secured ones have flush or even 'immersed' installation
At least here in Germany most cylinders are flush with the outside or recessed. And the ones, that stand out, have mostly a warding plate attached to prevent these attacks -> no practical use to open a door but I see potential as a self defense weapon
We do that in Norway too. I have never seen a lock that you're able to grab with that tool. Or any tool.
Thank you for this great video.
Best regards from germany
Great tool, and video, makes short work of standard euro style locks
Cylinders that protrude are usually only found on doors / side doors of insignificant buildings. Otherwise, insurance companies can deny payments.
If a non-destructive opening is not possible, milling is usually done or the core is pulled
Yo, sick video. I appreciate the time it took. Respect.
Cool video. The music reminded me of" this old Tony."
Bill, we are the same, always looking for an excuse to build something, ha ha. A good idea is to install a cone shaped steel protection to keep the cylinder flush. My neighbor was laughing at me when I installed it but did not find it amusing when his house was broken in. Thanks for the vid.
This method has been around for ages, and most lock installations are done so this is no longer possible. Be recessing the lock slightly it's no longer possible to do this with this tool, or just pliers. The other method, also used for discdetainer locks (put a screw in it and pull) would still work, but it's harder to do afaik.
The way to make sure the lock doesn't stick out is simple: order the right size. All euro cylinder locks come in different lengths for both the inside part and the outside part...
The better ones also have the face rounded off a bit to prevent the grip. Also most locks have long enough keys to allow for a cover plate with a spinner, so even if you break the lock somehow through the spinner, you're not gonna remove it, you can't pull it and the screw prevents you from pushing it. And if the cover plate is well made (rounded off), you're not gonna pry it off either.
Shockingly, all too often, cowboys and DIY goons don't order the right size. The worst I've ever seen is in the block where I live. It sticks out 25mm from the door, so you could whack it off with a lump hammer, or cut the bit off with the pins in. I have no idea what kind of fool did it, but it was an emergency repair guy the local council sent.
Bills got wicked skills
This is how the vast majority of burglaries are done in the UK. Most houses have patio doors now with these cylinders but the robbers tend not to care about your nice handle, they'll snap that off too if the lock doesn't stick out far enough.
In the UK there are a lot of doors with these locks - thieves already know how to snap a lock
a lot of the better euro locks come with a sacrificial snap point that breaks leaving the lock centre safe and the thief cannot get into the property
Yes I have 3 of these on my house
It's all bollocks anyway,cylinder snapping isn't much of an issue in the majority of the UK.
Glass on french doors is by far the most common point of entry
I love your shop.
Neat tool, great idea. Good luck to whomever ends up winning it. I hope they get good use from it. Not a giveaway for me, I doubt I'll ever encounter that style of lock. Excellent video as always Bill. Keep up the good work.
Thanks Bill. The theory is good, but I checked all of our doors, and the Eurolocks are all mounted flush with, or slightly concave to, the faceplates, so the tool would not be able to grip the locks. Furthermore, the weak points of the lock bodies are towards towards the inside of the protected rooms, making that leverage attack more difficult.
A locksmith would have to know where the rear screws of a faceplate are located, and then drill them out to remove the faceplate, before starting work on breaking the lock. A decent pair of mole grips could then be used, instead of this tool. I've seen it done, when someone with a medical emergency needed rescuing from inside their house. I suspect that a few good blows with a mallet onto a drift would also break those particular Eurolocks more quickly than this tool would do.
It's nice to see your other talents come into play Bill, nice job on the mock up!
UK loads of burglary happening. They don’t need no fancy tool to snap the lock. The just use a pipe wrench and it done in one or two tugs.
As for the ones where the lock sits flush with the plate flat screwdriver to pry it up and few bends and it’s off and then you have near enough the whole barrel to work with.
Other ways are to just drill it as it’s normally not harden steel /stainless
Thanks for showing us Bill -- I am familiar with these tools, but being in the US I've never used one or seen one used -- GREAT DEMO!
Nice and easy ... great bit of gear ..first job money back super fast one on it's way along with a thumb turn ..
Just use vice grip to hold the lock at the narrow part and move it to left and right till the lock falls apart
That's what I used when I broke one for a neighbour, although there I had access to the both sides so could remove the handles and a friend held the far side steady with another wrench. I was amazed at how quickly it succumbed - two side-to-side flexes and that was it.
So, a big pair of vice-grips would do the job. Nice.
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Swedish locks are also hardly ever mounted with the pins at the bottom, like Bill keeps saying European locks are. Perhaps we are not part of Europe after all? :p
Hence reason, anti-snap locks are made. They will snap a bit just before, not allowing access to cam bolt.
waddac2 I thought this video was bad for showing this in such detail, but then giving this tool away to someone who has no business owning it?! I know it’s already known by many but I’m sure this video will reach many who have the wrong idea about it all.
@@GxAxV Yes, this video to me is not so good as showing how to snap a lock and in effect from other info gain entry. Not a locksport video, or a security warning.. Just plain and simple info on a tool to do the job. I myself, would love a snapper for work purposes but could not afford one.
@@waddac2 that's why god invented mole grips.
@@cardiffpicker1 And God invented a spoon. Spoons work a lot better than a folk... Folks have issues due to cuts along all edges. I have found folks work best on baked potatoes on scraping out then mashing up. Place in oven after for a few moments with Cheese, mix again and serve. Hope this helps. You can put tin foil on too .
@@waddac2 never used folks on a potato,most folk I know wouldn't let me.
This was so cool to watch, what a great tool to use. I am not going to enter the drawing, because I am not a locksmith, but I did enjoy watching this vid. Bill, great information as always. I really enjoy your channel.
Some relatives of mine experienced first hand how effective this is.. and got their flat burglarised. Always put a protective shield.
Hi... being from Germany, I know this tool as "Kolbenzieher", and these tools are the reason why the cylinder should *never* be installed in a way that it offers any part - not even a millimeter or so - to be pulled upon. So if a cylinder is installed correctly, this tool cannot be used.
The workaround a thief would do is to 'peel' the handle surround away, but obviously that would need an extra tool and would create more noise, which is one of the main advantages of lock snapping.
But if you don´t have a shield, then an extractor will probably work.
if you can get to the screws always remove the handle it makes it a lot quicker. if they are snap proof then pull the core out with wendt core puller
In the UK the locks are not installed like that, (typically). They are flush with the handles which either need to be removed from the inside, or destructively removed.
A technique that the press reported was developed in the UK by criminals is to break the screws on the bottom of the handle and peel it back to expose the cylinder. This only works on cheap handles, I replaced mine with shielded handles that prevent this attack vector after I was awoken at 2:00am by a bunch of clowns attempting this. They had successfully peeled the handles back and we're removing the core with mole grips when I interrupted them.
Impressive build and presentation. Nice work! .
Very cool! Great video
The locks are supplied in a variety of lengths. Locks when properly installed should be fitted so as to be flush with the door to prevent such tools being used. Sadly many DIY and even professional installations do not use the correct sized lock.
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Nice tool, but it can be used only for interior door with symmetric cylinder. Proper entrance door is using asymmetric cylinders which are then shielded by the door itself.
To my knowledge (at least in The Netherlands) most euro cylinders are guarded against this kind of defeat. Truth be told you are encouraged by your insurance company to invest in some "3 star" graded locks which basically means they are guarded against most brute force methods of unlocking. Also, when installed on outer doors, (basically anything that faces a "publicly accessible space" the cylinder is flush or slightly inside of the door. Nowadays the cylinder is also usually guarded against "pulling" attacks.
Absolutely great video Bill .😎
Great job
Neat tool, even better montage music, Bill!
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I enjoyed the episode. Good information.
Euro cylinders do not protrude beyond the handle if correctly fitted, the handle is attacked to allow access to the cylinder which does normally protrude from the door.
Cool! Killer woodworking skills buddy!!
A few months at the gym and a good quality pair of vise grips will do the job, if you really need to. Also, if you remove that plate you taped up, you get an extra 1/4 inch of grip, not all those plates are removable though, so the tape's a good idea.
i really really enjoyed your build montage
I saw one of these in a local locksmith's bag the other week at work. I did wonder what it was, now I know!
Nice tool! My Porter Cable 513 router and a 2 x 6 would have come in handy to make the lock block in minutes. Great demonstration.
Go ahead and send it to me. I'll hold on to it for the next project, whenever that is. Thank you for your generous donation! 😀
Here in the UK, burglars will break the handle to expose more of the euro lock and then use mole grips/locking pliers to do exactly the same thing. Most euro locks here are fitted flush, so even a locksmith would have little use for this tool TBH.
Uh to all the people that say "yeah useless tool, all locks are flush now", ive used the same tool 4 times today. And those with steel spines you freeze with nitrogen if the owner doesnt care for the lock, its the cheapest/easiest/fastest option. Sucks that thieves also have caught on tho.
Same as using a bolster chisel and a lump hammer, only takes 1 good blow on the top of the lock
I love people who do that,I have had loads of jobs where they have totally knackered the lock mechanism.
It works for euro cylinders with no snap protection. Criminals uses vice grips or small hand tools to do the same. It is useless on High security cylinders that are designed to defeat it. I have one for ovals too.
Sometimes euro cylinders a locksmith has to deal with are completely broken and the after drilling it they need to remove it with this. It is just another tool to help get your door open.
This tool is awesome. As an Firefighter I've been trained to use this. It's awesome to open doors fast. Usually you need 2-3 hard swipes to left and right to crack the lock. But ist dangerous too. Some doors got protection against cracking and if this kicks in you are fucked
This surely can’t be in the uk anyway as every door I go to after the fire brigade have been involved has been smashed into thousands of tiny pieces.
@@jamatoke jeah, I live in Germany and we are trained to don't destroy the doors, or just saw a hole in an window to make it easy for repair
Efficient as always I see.
I wish scotland would learn some lessons like that.
I use the old style double ended one and that always work but that one looks cool and Multipick are great at making quality tools Great review Bill keep up the great work. :)
In the Netherlands it's even 21% VAT. Maybe also in other countries?
20% here in the uk
we miss u bill
I have to admit, the European profile setup looks a hell of a lot better than the American style
So this is your new plan for getting to the bottom of the naughty bucket? I imagine it feels really nice when you pick one out that's been in there for a few years.
Wouldn’t mind having one of those Euro locks to play with picking. Never even seen one in person.
Looks like it did dent that lock housing a bit on the lower left hand corner. Perhaps a piece of rubber with a hole cut into it would help prevent this if it'll still allow enough bite.
This will work if you are really lucky. At least at where I live. They don't stick out 4 mills. They pretty flush with a handle cover. But that gave some other ideas. Maybe you could do same with flat end screwdriver. If you push on side of a cilinder or maybe key hole at very sharp angles. You can make cilinder flex a little to. I wonder how well that would work. Humm...
One would think a softer metal would resist more as it's more malleable and able to absorb the flexing better. I would have thought a hard spine made of something like tungsten carbide would snap a lot easier as its very brittle.
It's relying on the locksmith not installing correctly. Done properly the external part of the lock should be flush.
It's relying on the owner not caring. Bad installations like this were commonly done 30+ years ago.
@@zwz.zdenek still common now,although it is generally down to homeowners doing the change themselves.
I have seen 50/50 cylinder fitted in a composite door which should have a 35/35 .
Good video, well designed showpiece and demonstration. Great tool for the professional, I have Euro locks at my workplace (Marine environment) and have to try and drill them out when the locks fail. 👍
Get better locks then, probably got steel springs which rust and snap.
@@cardiffpicker1 Too bad spring material is rarely advertised on a new cylinder. If anything, they consider steel the better option.
This is why i got an ABS anti snap lock fitted a few years back in the U.K there was a huge crime wave of people getting burgled from this method.
Only in the Midlands, it really isn't that common in the rest of the uk.
I attend 20+ break ins every week and have only been to 2 cylinder snaps in the past 6 months.
@@cardiffpicker1 It was very common a few years ago in west yorkshire.
@@pxa1953 Bradford is where it started, still no where near as popular as smashing French doors
@@cardiffpicker1 I know a good few people that have been burgled during the night simply because they forgot to lock their door and i bet it is not hard to get lucky if you go street by street trying doors in the early hours.
@@pxa1953 majority of burglary is done in the day these days, and you are correct about people checking doors as no tools needed so cant be charged with going equipped.
Wouldn't mind those Euro cylinders for practice. You could give those away as well.....
Nice tool that obviously does its job. Don’t see much use to the lock sport community but I guess if your a thief or a locksmith then it might be useful.
A thief doesn't need one: a prybar on the frame achieves the same objective, with less cost and hassle.
Thieves use tools like mole grips - they're cheaper, less suspicious, and probably faster too. Remember, they don't care about damaging the door. Also, the doors these are used in normally have substantial multi-point latching.