Great video! I loved hearing the history of the area from the bartender at the saloon. We'll be heading down there in a few weeks to run a few of the BoH trails. Backway to Crown King looks super fun! Thanks for the entertainment. Happy trails! 😀👍
Liked this vid. Arizona has so much all over the state to wheel. Every region has trails either Overland type or Hardcore crawling type and I'd like to get out there more often. Will be watching for the next vid to hit the air.
We doing the Backway to Crown King tomorrow with a group of Jeeps. It's my first time after decades living in the Phoenix area. I better bring a jacket.
I think everyone has underestimated Table Mesa. Had you driven farther in and taken the entire 3-4hr ride east and then south to Carefree, then you’d agree. There are multiple mail-biting areas that a stock Jeep would have some trouble getting past. I also think that you driving on the trail just enough to get a BOH defeats the purpose of the BOH program and diminishes it further. Most take some pride and show integrity when hitting these BOH trails. Go back and do the Table Mesa trail. You’ll see how the trail is underestimated.
I agree the east side is better and is a much better trail. But the badge of honor program made a mistake when they created this one and got the trails confused. The original description was the east side, but whom ever put the track in took the west side. That is how it ended up being the west side. I thought it would have been corrected by now but last time we talked 2019-2020 ish, it was more it connects to other great trails vs getting it flipped to the east side. I wish it was the east side, i have ran part of it and it was a great drive.
how would you compare the shelf roads here verses the Black Bear Pass? I watched Trailrecon do a video on that and he showed a view of it zig zagging down the whole mountain! They were doing some 3 point and 5 point turns on some of it. Brad said he would probably never come back to it but it was one he could take off his list lol.
This trail is way easier. They are narrow but when going up the passenger is on the shelf side where it is narrow. But no zig zags. There is no turn that requires backing up. This is a great trail and I don't see anyone getting scared or worried doing this trail.
It could do it depending if you have steps. The one rock spot you see the Orange JL just missing the rock sliders is the hardest spot. A rock might have to be put down to give it a little ground clearance if needed. The orange JL was stock with slightly larger tires.
Yeah, when Jeep initially released the trail. The GPX didn't line up with the east side which is the trail I through they wanted but had the east side as the starting point. After a few phone calls, it was discovered they did the wrong side of the trail unfortunately. But I agree, I have heard amazing things of the east side and I was told it is 100% worth doing.
The orange one is mostly stock with GenRight Sliders and bumpers. While the Silver one has Genright bumpers, RockJock4x4 lift, Falken Tires, Raceline Rims, Genright Tire Carrier and a SuperWinch.
So yes I agree that is the better way. But Jeep made a mistake when they created this trail. The track showed the east side but the check in location is the west side along with the trail name. FYI - east side is a different trail name. The reason for that is one is BLM and the other is Forest. If you are going to go up there, I would recommend running the east side as it is a much better trail. But sadly if you are hunting for badges, its just the west side for now till they fix it. Which I hope they change it soon.
Ummm... You didn't actually do Table Mesa. It goes for 20 miles and takes you to the north side of Cave Creek. It is beautiful vistas and moderately hard trails at some spots. If water is flowing, you'll have a few water crossings. The people abusing the jeep badge of honor by jumping off the highway and driving for a short go should be ashamed of themselves. Trade your jeeps in on some lame SUV, please.
I believe I talked to that in the video. The trail they wanted was new river canyon. Not sure what happened but I reached out to them within a day or two of the release discussed there was a mix up. But things were ordered already so they stuck with the dirt road... But I agree, it should be the other side.
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This is awesome. We would love to run a trip like this.
Where are you located? We love new people to come wheel with us.
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Josh, I'm glad you made it out with your great videos. One of my favorite trails for scenery.
Great video! I loved hearing the history of the area from the bartender at the saloon. We'll be heading down there in a few weeks to run a few of the BoH trails. Backway to Crown King looks super fun! Thanks for the entertainment. Happy trails! 😀👍
Have fun and let us know what you think of it after
This was such an epic trip. I feel so lucky we had the opportunity to do it.
Love it y'all
Liked this vid. Arizona has so much all over the state to wheel. Every region has trails either Overland type or Hardcore crawling type and I'd like to get out there more often. Will be watching for the next vid to hit the air.
I am right there with you Joe. They do have some great wheeling. We are lucky we live so close.
We doing the Backway to Crown King tomorrow with a group of Jeeps. It's my first time after decades living in the Phoenix area. I better bring a jacket.
It was very cold in the shadows near the top. Let me know how the trip was.
@@JeepAdventures Went great. Only one side by side passed our group. Slow day I was told. 4 hour trip to the saloon to have a beverage and a burger.
Sounds like a perfect trip
Great adventure Joshua thank you for sharing
Thank you for watching
I think everyone has underestimated Table Mesa. Had you driven farther in and taken the entire 3-4hr ride east and then south to Carefree, then you’d agree. There are multiple mail-biting areas that a stock Jeep would have some trouble getting past. I also think that you driving on the trail just enough to get a BOH defeats the purpose of the BOH program and diminishes it further. Most take some pride and show integrity when hitting these BOH trails. Go back and do the Table Mesa trail. You’ll see how the trail is underestimated.
I agree the east side is better and is a much better trail. But the badge of honor program made a mistake when they created this one and got the trails confused. The original description was the east side, but whom ever put the track in took the west side. That is how it ended up being the west side. I thought it would have been corrected by now but last time we talked 2019-2020 ish, it was more it connects to other great trails vs getting it flipped to the east side. I wish it was the east side, i have ran part of it and it was a great drive.
You all are awesome.
Thank you
Table Mesa is a 19 mile trail that allows you to then go south to 7 Springs and Cave Creek, it is a 4/10.
On the east side?
It should be added, that mining area, in raining season, that rock garden is a flowing creek, that you drive up.
That sounds awesome
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how would you compare the shelf roads here verses the Black Bear Pass? I watched Trailrecon do a video on that and he showed a view of it zig zagging down the whole mountain! They were doing some 3 point and 5 point turns on some of it. Brad said he would probably never come back to it but it was one he could take off his list lol.
This trail is way easier. They are narrow but when going up the passenger is on the shelf side where it is narrow. But no zig zags. There is no turn that requires backing up. This is a great trail and I don't see anyone getting scared or worried doing this trail.
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How would a stock JL rubicon do on this trail in your opinion?
It could do it depending if you have steps. The one rock spot you see the Orange JL just missing the rock sliders is the hardest spot. A rock might have to be put down to give it a little ground clearance if needed. The orange JL was stock with slightly larger tires.
Next time check your map. The Table Mesa trail is on the east side of the highway, you were on the west side. You missed a great trail.
Yeah, when Jeep initially released the trail. The GPX didn't line up with the east side which is the trail I through they wanted but had the east side as the starting point. After a few phone calls, it was discovered they did the wrong side of the trail unfortunately. But I agree, I have heard amazing things of the east side and I was told it is 100% worth doing.
How long did the entire trail take to finish?
It would be best to give yourself 6 hours or so. We did it just under 3 but we were holding a pretty good speed the whole way up.
Do you ever include Toyotas? I want to go.
All the time, everyone is welcome to join us.
Where’s the front way to Crown King?
Hahhaha, it's actually near the end of the video
Where is this at?
Just north of Phoenix.
What Truax said, It is pretty close to Phoenix too which is pretty nice.
What have you done to your Jeep?
The orange one is mostly stock with GenRight Sliders and bumpers. While the Silver one has Genright bumpers, RockJock4x4 lift, Falken Tires, Raceline Rims, Genright Tire Carrier and a SuperWinch.
You sent the wrong way on Table Mesa… go East…
So yes I agree that is the better way. But Jeep made a mistake when they created this trail. The track showed the east side but the check in location is the west side along with the trail name. FYI - east side is a different trail name. The reason for that is one is BLM and the other is Forest.
If you are going to go up there, I would recommend running the east side as it is a much better trail. But sadly if you are hunting for badges, its just the west side for now till they fix it. Which I hope they change it soon.
Ummm...
You didn't actually do Table Mesa. It goes for 20 miles and takes you to the north side of Cave Creek. It is beautiful vistas and moderately hard trails at some spots. If water is flowing, you'll have a few water crossings.
The people abusing the jeep badge of honor by jumping off the highway and driving for a short go should be ashamed of themselves. Trade your jeeps in on some lame SUV, please.
I believe I talked to that in the video. The trail they wanted was new river canyon. Not sure what happened but I reached out to them within a day or two of the release discussed there was a mix up. But things were ordered already so they stuck with the dirt road...
But I agree, it should be the other side.