Sorry I can’t help you with this Joe. Don’t know if this will help, but I’ll pin your comment to the top of the comments section for a few weeks and see if anyone could point you in the right direction 🤷♂️👍
We shouldn’t. R asking the community 🥹🥹come on Rage producers get your fingers out and start listening. Trouble is they are all computer nerds producing these machines . They need a tried and tested experience joiners to develop these saws, but well worth the money. However I’m having to buy an after market saw guide??? What’s that all about . Would probably cost evo A few Wyid at most. Now I’m having to shell out £15 for one . See what I mean?
Hi Leo, great what you do!! I also work with only Left hand, you,re the first person ever who I see working also with only Left! Great to meet you ! Keep going!!! Greetings Piet !
Thanks Piet and great to hear from a fellow solo left handed maker. There doesn’t appear to be many of us so thanks for the message. Best wishes from Liverpool, Leo 😀👍
We’ll done young man. I can call you that because I’m 76 yrs old and been joiner/ builder all my life and seen some mega changes in d I y hear over the years , sussed the riving knife problem before your 83 cups of tea 😀 only because I’ve been there done it worn the t shirt . Just invested in one of these machines myself. Looking forward to it. Keep up the good work and videos 👍👍
thank goodness for this video - the blade guard was driving me nuts, same issues as you observed so I just took mine off......tomorrow morning I'll raise up the riving knife, many thanks for the video,
Thanks Cliff, it’s such a simple thing and it took me ages to figure out 😂😂. If you look through the comments here, don’t worry, we aren’t the first people to have the same issue 😀😂
I am new to all of this, but still bought one yesterday in the hope of doing a few projects. So this is very helpful especially the blade guard problem. At that point I would have been looking to return it under the banner of 'useless'. Thanks very much.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. This looks like a good quality saw that now seems to have been updated. I would most certainly purchase items based on your honest recommendation so I hope more companies will be in touch.
Thank you for your content, you are an inspiration for what can be done. On the strength of your great video I have recently bought the R255PTS, poor man's version of the Rage 5S., it's basically the same just missing a few features, - left hand extension- I've bought round steel bar and fasteners and made my own version, drilling and tapping etc, the table is exactly the same, I.e. the mounts for the rods are there, and threaded where need be. My LH version extends some 300 mm. Currently Evolution have no spares for the Rage to enable anyone to upgrade their R255 to a Rage variant, so Ebay and Amazon to the rescue. I have used a bit of CLS for the LH table, not ideal but as I can't get the real thing it'll have to do for now. The R255 doesn't come with a hose, so again vac hose will be used when it arrives from China. Best wishes
Nice one, cheers Robert for the message. Please keep me posted on how you get on with the 255. Few folk been in touch with me about it and I’ve seen it advertised, but not up close. Best wishes, Leo
@@Hand-i-Craft, Hi Leo, I have 3 Evolution saws, chop, mitre and the R255. These tools are really good, being able to cut through all manner of materials. When adapting the table saw I used it to cut through 12mm mild steel rod, although there where a few sparks, it did it with ease. I had to adjust the blade travel to get to 90°, to get an accurate reading I used a digital inclinometer, so easy to use. I assume the Rage and R255 will be as good as each other on performance. I look forward to my next build project to put it through it's paces. Kind regards, Rob
Great vid ! I'm just taking a break as I'm halfway through putting one of these together and you popped up :) Have got the legs on, now for the rest...
Just to add - I brought this saw (and love it-wish I'd brought a table saw years ago) but had to return my first one back to screw fix. I had an issue where it would cut parallel & straight off the Fence when in non extended mode, but if I extended the right hand table, the fence would go completely out of alignment again. Turned out the aluminium sliding rail with the scale on it was completely bannan shaped (could only tell when I put a straight edge on it, not by eye), and when extending, it was twisting the fence. Took it back to screwfix (their return policy is amazing) and the 2nd one I got was bang on. All Good tips from Hand-I-Craft here... wish you'd done it sooner lad! as I figured all the same stuff out myself... including the adjustable riving knife yesterday - The adjustable riving knife is useful if you're trying to do rebate or Dado cuts, as you can't do them when it's higher than the top of the blade. Also, if you want to rip thin stuff down, make yourself a zero clearance insert - I did mine out of 18mm ply, using a hand router to sink it down - Makes all the difference for fine cuts.
Thanks Rob for such a kind and detailed post. Spot on with the insert plate and it’s top of my to do list. It’ll help to stop losing thin strips, plus if I do it with ply like you said it’ll strengthen it up a bit. I think it’s a great piece of kit and fantastic value for money. I love the sliding table feature and the fence is rock solid. Cheers Rob, Leo 😀
Great video, I am still debating which table saw to buy, to replace my 20 year old saw, For the money it looks good value, and the easy portability and the extendable wings are also great plus points.
Thanks for the comment Cottage. If you have a look at my channel, I’ve just released a video on making a modular coal storage box. It is lengthy at 28 mins, but if you are seriously considering the Evolution Rage 5-S Saw you’ll see it properly put through its paces with the side wings fully extended, sheet materials cut, full use of sliding panel and mitre gauge etc. Hope it is of some help, best wishes, Leo 😀
Thanks, re-watching this as I have just bought one of these beasts, and pretty pleased so far. I did read the manual about raising the riving knife, so that was ok :D However after first test rips I find my riving knife is not exactly in line - only a fraction of a millimetre jutting outside the blade but enough to be a bit sticky when feeding to that point. So about to adjust the riving knife again to make sure it is in line well enough for a smooth feed. Seems a critical safety point!
Cheers Ged and thanks for the comment. Yes it can need a few tweaks here and there to get working ‘properly’, but I stand by this comment I have said many times that for the money it is the best value table saw in that price bracket. If you are on Facebook there is an excellent group call Evolution Rage 5-S User Group which I’d really recommend joining. Some great hints and tips on there 👍👍
@@budemonkey I'm assuming by your name that you are female? Which would explain your comment? As a female you have failed to grasp one of the fundamental male characteristics..... Men just don't do instruction manuals 😊😂😂😂
I came across this video looking for a way to ensure the fence was parallel to the blade... And came away with the duct tape on the mitre slider and finally worked out how to fit the blade guard... I also could not work it out so cheers!
Cheers rithotyn, the amount of folk who’ve thanked me for the tip about the blade guard is incredible 😀😀. And there was just me who thought I couldn’t figure it out. Thanks for the message, best wishes, Leo 😀
Oh, thank you for the riving knife tip. I had no idea it was adjustable and I took the blade guard off, which I don't like. I'll sort it tomorrow, even if it is 1 deg C in the workshop.
Thanks for the message Steve. I’m guessing quite a few folk may upgrade to the Rage 5s from the likes of a very budget brand where adjustable riving knife simply doesn’t exist and assume that is the case with most table saws🤷♂️. If you look through the comments in this video the amount of folk who’ve made the same ‘mistake’ makes you and me feel a lot better about things 😀😀👍
Hi thanks for the riving knife tip I bought this saw after watching many youtube reviews including yours. I used the saw for 18mm MDF with no issue, I tried to rip down some 2x5 and hit the same problem as you hence back to watch again. they must ship like that as I don't remember assembling the riving knife myself. thanks again subbed and liked
Thank you Martin for the kind feedback 👍. I know I’ve had it pointed out to me on more than one occasion that of course this is explained in the manual but I imagine only a relative small percentage of folk actually read the manual before letting themselves loose on their new tools😂😂
thanks very much for the tips on setting up very helpful especially the issue with the height of the guard, mine is due later today and this will save my hours and hours of figuring out so thanks for solving that issue for me cheers
stephengreasley72 Thanks Stephen. It’s amazing how many folk have struggled with the blade guard, not realising the riving knife is height adjustable. Good luck with the saw and hope you get really good use out of it!
@@Hand-i-Craft about to make a log cabin in my back garden, got all the other cordless tools I need chopsaw etc etc but wanted something like this to rip all the ply sheets thanks again
I once had to have my arm in a full cast for 12 weeks and it drove me insane. You're mad for power tooling one handed and I'm here for it! Thinking of picking one of these up. I've looked at them for years but every time I've backed out because of the QC issues and accuracy of cuts so look at dewalts etc but then it doesn't fit my budget for the rest of the tools I need and I back out. I think I'm just going to go for it and face the fact I'll need to square up between cuts.
@@Hand-i-Craft oh, for sure! I'd be really interested to see a head to head on how accurately cuts can be made on this vs the reigning budget friendly dewalt etc. Parallel width over long boards, miter angles etc. See how accurate it can be and then see how accurate it can be under timed use.
I’ve been looking to buy this table saw for a while now & since I’ve watched a few videos on this product I’ve already got a couple of Evolution products already like the sliding mitre saw & circular saw which I’m very happy with so probably going to purchase this table saw to replace my Excel portable jobsite 210mm which the fence spot on only down side really is it’s got a splitter on instead or riving knife which means it also stays fixed so can’t use the Grrr- ripper on it which I’ve just bought 🤣
Cheers Stan for the comment, much appreciated 😀. I don’t know if you were like me upgrading from a budget table saw before purchasing the Evolution saw, so it just never occurred to me that the riving knife would be adjustable! Ah well, got there in the end😂
@@Hand-i-Craft this is actually my first table saw, just getting into the hobby now. I liked the versatility of this one plus the dust extraction on the blade guard. Now that I know the knife rises, I dug the blade guard out of the bin 😅😅
Hi. The fence is attached to the riving knife, so I took the RK off, and cut through the slot right to the bottom of it (following the arc). Then, you can lift the RK up as far as you can in the slot, and attach the fence. This should help greatly,. Give it a try! Great channel, by the way
Have you thought of using a feather board? To help you hold or even press pieces firmly to the fence when ripping long boards? I think this'd be a great compensation for a second hand!
Thanks for the mention Leo. My blade guard as you say is completely different, even the fixing screw is different. And that's a very good tip about the slack in the mitre gauge slot, seen it done before, but not got around to it yet - you have just reminded me I must do it 👍😃
Cheers James. This new blade guard looks much better than on the version you have so I am going to stick with it and see how it goes, especially now that I know the riving knife height can be adjusted 🤯💡😀
Thanks Reg, hope it works out well for you. I don’t another very short video about a guy who makes a brilliant kill switch for it. Have a look if you get a chance and a thoroughly recommend it😀👍
Loved the video Leo, I'm trying to decide on what rip saw to get and at least I won't have to buy 86 brews if I get this one because you have helped me problem solve already. Great channel and great videos too.
Brilliant video. Saw arrived yesterday so I'm been frantically Youtubing content. Found one on how to build it and bookmarked this video several weeks ago to make. sure I used it to fine tune the saw once built. Thank you! Saved me so much time and frustration. Also the Gorilla Tape hack is awesome! First thing I did once the basic table was completed!
Cheers for the comment channelwhywhywhy 😀. I’m really happy with the saw. Love the sliding table feature, the extendable wings and the fence is rock solid 👍😀. Hope you get lots of good use from it😀😀
@@Hand-i-Craft Actually not sure if you could give me any tips but I'm struggling with the fence alignment. I've followed your guidance and my fence is slightly out at the far end of the table. I undo the bolts, adjust and then lock and tighten the bolts but it continues to pitch at the top. Any ideas? Do I need to be careful on the tighten? any tips appreciated.
Sorry for such a late reply as I’ve only just seen this. Did you manage to sort the alignment issue? Not sure if this would work but try and align the fence against the insert plate line as that is perfectly parallel to the blade, loosen the bolts then maybe half apply the locking clamp to see if that will hold the fence in place then tighten the bolts up? I’m only thinking out loud here as I haven’t tried it but it may help keep the fence in place whilst you lock up the bolts🤷♂️. Good luck and let me know how you get on. Cheers, Leo 😀
Excellent! I think that the sliding section of the table really sets this unit apart from others esp in this price range. My one gripe is the lack of a factory fitted soft start module. However there are numerous YT videos addressing this if you’re electrically minded. If not have an electrician do it for you. 👏🇦🇺✌️
Totally agree Markie about the sliding table feature, I use it all the time. I’ve seen the soft start adjustment and might get it fitted. My saw is out of warranty now so maybe worth fitting 👍👍
I’m a new subscriber to ur channel. Basically because you’re a a plain speaking English guy, who is more proficient with one hand than I am with two (please don’t take offence). I just bought the Rage 255pts & it’s immense. I’ll try your tape trick with the mitre though! Thanks. Joe
Thanks Joe for the kind feedback and apologies for the late reply. The comment was held in the 'possibly spam' box and I've only just seen it! Best wishes from Liverpool, Leo 😀
First impressions are really positive Alasdair, but will need to properly put it through its paces. Luckily I’ve got a stack loads of projects it is going to be needed for 😀
Hi Leo, I'd just like to say how much I like your Vids, you are an inspiration. Re the Evolution Rage 5 S Table saw, can you tell me if it could be mounted on a trolley cabinet instead of being on the portable stand thingy it comes with. I want it as a shop saw without the frame work as it would only be used in my workshop. Looking forward to your next vid on the new workshop, but please wait until the weather improves, I had to turn up the heating as I watched you fitting the insulation panels and doing the foil taping. stay safe in this strange time we are living through.
Thanks Tom for your very kind comments 😀👍. And yes you can use the Rage 5 mounted in a trolley cabinet if you like. It’s quite simple to detach from the stand and re-attach if necessary. Glad this stage of the workshop build is done as it was a bit physically and mentally draining, but it’s done now and we move on👍👍
I have the R255PTS and it fits this model. Bought one after watching the video, the safety device has 15% off at the mo so it's £10.20 + £2.90 postage. Cheers.
This is the video I was looking for! Practical tips from someone who actually uses the saw. Something interesting in the video that no one else seems to have asked about is the very nice looking push stick you use (not a stick at all but I don't know what it might be called) . Can be seen clearly @10.39 on the video but I can't find anything like it out in the wild.
It is Chris, I’ve heard from other folk that (identical) versions of it are available on other sites that sell Chinese copies of existing products. Might be worth a look🤷♂️
Polecat54941 Cheers Polecat, had it a month or so now and really happy with it. It is a massive step up from my previous Workzone tablesaw. Once you get the fence square (if it isn’t already) it locks really tight and is a great feature. Also I love the sliding table on the left side. Couple that with the mitre gauge and trimming my cutting boards is so simple. Finally don’t forget the riving knife is height adjustable 😀😀
@@Hand-i-Craft I assembled mine today and despite watching your video and reading your reply I still forgot to raise the knife when I made my first cut! in fairness it does say in the manual that I read afterwards, I think they put it at the lowest setting so it is flat in the box :)
Polecat54941 Took me hours to figure it out Polecat and, as you say, it was in the manual all along! Who reads the manual hey😂. Forgot to mention I’d recommend getting the specific wood blade if you can stretch to it at some point. I’m keeping the multi blade for cutting anything apart from wood and switching to the wood blade. Another thing I like about it is it is easy to swap between blades so it’s worth it when you’ve got the funds
Cheers foolsgold. For price I think it’s the best value saw out there. Lots of really useful features, biggest issue with them since the covid situation is availability. I know manufacturing for Evolution took a big hit so it’s taken a while for products to start coming through again
I’ve got this exact saw and came looking for a way to set the fence up better because mine, although I’ve set it up to be square, has a lot of play in it so I have to set it top and bottom to the blade or it pinches and jams. It seems a bit too loose so when you clamp it down it can be at an angle. Watching your video made me remember why I never use the blade guard too. It is definitely poorly designed and doesn’t allow for you to pass through it unless it’s fully extended and even then can get in the way.
Cheers for the comment Giggidy, sounds like there could be a problem with your fence because mine locks square and solid. Customer services at Evolution are very good so may be worth giving them a ring. I’ve persevered with the blade guard and am used to it now. It’s much better than the previous black plastic design, but it’s not perfect.
Brian Hewitt it doesn’t matter how I adjust it it’s never right. I have to measure top and bottom from the blade to the fence, put the fence clamp half down so it’s grabbing but not at full strength then check for square again before I tighten it all the way. Then sometimes it’s still off and I get it jamming half way and it won’t cut straight. I could never do the half cut then flip to do the other half because it’d never line up no matter what. I love the actual saw but the fence is a nightmare.
Thanks for sharing tips. I had one of these for a year and I take off the hood for deep cuts... after watching this video, I can adjust it properly and use it as it’s meant to be used. Where are the blade adjusters underneath because I can’t find them! Thanks again
Thanks Zaid👍. Are you talking about the riving knife adjusters? It’s simply the bolt that secures the riving knife into place needs loosening then you can raise / lower the riving knife then tighten the bolt back up. Hope this is of some help👍😀
@@Hand-i-Craft thank you for taking time to reply. I thought you said (on the type subtitle) there are adjustments screws underneath! Maybe I misunderstood! Basically is there another way of adjusting the blade apart from the catch by the height wheel? Thanks again
@@Hand-i-Craft good gawd it works! Note the dropped nose on your knife. The picture in the manual is not that shape. So I think you did what I did and followed the manual and set the knife top 10mm above the blade. Pulling it right up and all well.
Hello Harry, I’ll have a look for you over the weekend. They are definitely ‘non standard’ sizes, if you look at stuparkercreations on Etsy he sells mitre slots that fit perfectly into the Rage 5-S so he may have the dimensions in the description 👍👍👍
Hi bud. I've just bought this model and decided to watch a few videos on putting it together as the book isn't that good. When I watched your video, at the point where your trying to fit the safty guard, I was hoping you would suss that you needed to adjust the riving knife. Glad you sussed it in the end. Nice job.
Thanks Gary, very kind of you to comment. If you take the orange clearance plate off and look at the riving knife, it has a bolt securing it to the frame of the blade. Just loosen that bolt and raise / lower the riving knife to the desired height and tighten the bolt back up. Hope this helps 👍👍
Great vid pal. Any tips to set the blade exaxt 90 degrees? i have one o them digital set square jobbys, and engineers set squares. but with one Arm (i'm the same, but left arm is gone) getting it nearly 90 is a pain. hope that makes sence? without getting someone to set it i found the angle of ripping was bad on long stetches of wood. i also use as many clamps & jigs to make it easier.take care Bri
Hello again pal, yes it is a pain. There is a washer and screw you can adjust behind the paddle that unlocks the angle adjustment. If the blade is not getting up to 90 degrees then maybe have a look at that 👍👍
@@Hand-i-Craft ohhhh i remember now. my 🧠 fails me, i think i got my pal to set up after changing from 45 dergrees. tbh it’s got prety spot on. i’ll faff on with it next couple o days. Itching to get back as i need to build a cross cut jig. take care. bri 🫡
Great video, table saw blade and fence should be set to the miter slot as its permanently fixed at 90 degrees. However i dont know if thats possible with smaller saws
Good video with a lot of useful tips. I bought the table saw just recently and I'm still tuning it up. I am able to get the rip fence parallel to the blade. The problem I have is that this fence is not 90 degrees to the table surface itself. Clamped or not it is a little crooked. when the fence is at your right hand side the top of the fence is about 1 mm more towards the blade. If you cut multiple sheets of the same thickness in equal width this is not really a problem. But if you want to cut for instance 18 mm thick wood on a width of say 100 mm and combine this with a piece of wood of 64 mm thickness the rip width will be 99 mm instead of 100 (more or less). With this it is (only)1% off but if the width would be 50 mm then is goes up to 2% (still being only 1 mm of course). My question is if and how you could adjust the fence so it is perpendicular to the table surface. I would be very grateful if you or somebody else would take a look at that.
Thanks Peter, much appreciated for the comments. My sincere apologies as it stands I’m not able to help you with this issue around the fence being perpendicular to the table. I thought I had the same problem but it was the blade that wasn’t square to the table and not the fence. The blade needs to be ‘firmly’ shunted into position by the adjuster underneath to achieve a 90 degree angle, maybe do a double check that it is the blade and not the fence that isn’t square? What I would say is have you been in touch with Evolution themselves? I’m not sponsored by them or have any other reason to recommend them, but their customer service is excellent so hopefully they could help sort it for you.
@@Hand-i-Craft Thanks for your swift reply. I really appreciate this. I own the table saw now for a week or so and I didn't cut yet anything with it. I am just trying to get things lined up as it should be. And as the fence concerns I use a small precision square (which is really square) and then I see this (small) gap. To be honest as I not yet did cut any thing this will be a problem which will occur in real life. As I said which the same thickness it won't be an issue. But theoretically it will be when you want small thickness wood to have the same width as thicker thickness wood. But maybe I should first cut some wood with this table. (the table is still in my living room which my wife doesn't really appreciate and I won't do any cutting in there as you can imagine) I think I'm going to try to put some washers on the left or right side of front of the fence where the two plastic glides are situated. If the fence is not clamped I can tilt it a little so that the fence is square to the table. And you see that when you clamp it the two plastic gliders move forward towards the aluminium rail which has a curve. If I adjust the heigth of one of them and if the clamping doesn't ruin this 'new' position then it should be oké. Maybe I have to adjust the fence then again to be parallel to the blade and this operation could also offset my initial 'solution'. I don't know. I will try this tomorrow and I'll let you know what the results are. Again thanks for your reply and again also for your video.
@@Hand-i-Craft Hello Leo, did not yet do the washer option. Now I think it is better first to start to cut wood. See if alle other settings are correct. Blade align with miter slot and with the rip fence. Blade perpendicular with the table. Fence aligned with miter slot and blade. The see how serious my problem is with the crooked fence. I can always use the little additional accompanying fence wich is not too high so the crookedness of the big rip fence is not that important more or less. And finally if it bothers me and the washer option doesn't solve this I can produce an artificial rip fence. But I must be sure that blade settings are correct. I have to do this outside because my shop for now has not the space to do all this. I think it will take some weeks to do this. But I will inform you about the progress! Thanks again for thinking along with me.
I think I have found the solution now. Seen in a French video about the Rage 5S saw table (ruclips.net/video/nz9HvZa_3UU/видео.html). minute 12 and further. He uses the two bolts on the parallel guide to place it perpendicular to the table. I thought they could only be used to connect the parallel guide parallel to the saw blade and / or the T-slots. But apparently they are also used to get the fence 90 degrees towards the table face. So that is solved! No experiments with washers. :) Just have to build in a soft starter.
This could be a good answer for me if I ever change my ancient table saw. It was my dad’s, he bought it in the mid 70s. I don’t use it much though, I tend to use my Aldi track saw, my band saw and my mitre saw.
My Aldi table saw was on its last legs Tony, plus it was always in the way on the wheel mounts I placed it on. It is early days yet but I’m very happy with my new acquisition. Floor space wise it takes up a lot less room when not in use, it is a major step up build quality wise and useability it is in a different league. It is interesting with Evolution though as they pitch their pricing of the higher end models somewhere between budget and premium. I paid £250 for this which is quite a lot budget end, but low premium end. It’ll be interesting to see what I think of it in the coming months, but I’ve been very impressed up to now 😀
How has the Aldi stuff been in terms of precision? It's always cheap enough to encourage me but expensive enough that if it's not precise enough, then it's a total waste of money. Never took the plunge..
I watched a video of the saw done by evolution you can prevent the wobble and free play in the mitre guide by screwing the mitre guide into the hole at the start of the T slot
I know what you’re saying Kemikal and you’re absolutely right about the instruction manual. If you read the comments here it’s not just me who doesn’t always read the manual 😂😀
Thanks for the video. I see you aren't using the fence face plate that comes with the saw... It makes it harder to get straight cuts but the manual pretty clearly says it should be left attached?
Thanks John for the message. It’s a good point and something that I’m continually learning with. From discussion with other folk I think sheet goods are fine against the fence, but cutting wood should be with the ancillary fence plate in place. It’s a practice I’ve adopted now 😀
Great vid, thanks. I am going to get one of these, istill waiting to find one in stock! This whole virus thing has meant that imports are slower and sometimes non existent! Even Evolution are out of stock! But good video for someone who has never had a table saw before (ME!) I do have their 255SMS single Mitre Saw and I just love that! Have tots of projects and that to make, hope I don't have to wait too long.
Hello Pete, thanks for your kind comment sir, much appreciated 😀. There have been quite a few comments recently on here about it being out of stock. Don’t know where you are around the world, but what I would say is maybe leave it a little while, even when stock returns. I noticed they upped the price in March and April (as every other manufacturer did) so maybe they will still be charging full retail when they become available again, or even a revised higher retail price. To put it in context I paid £230 last year and at that price it is exceptional value for money. If they start charging north of £350 for them that bring the likes of the Dewalt table saw into that kind of bracket. I’ve never used the Dewalt but follow a lot of RUclips guys who do and swear by it. So maybe, as tempting as it would be to just buy it, hold on a little when they become available and I’m sure there will be deals available on them soon after. Best wishes, Leo 😀
@@Hand-i-Craft Thanks for the reply Leo. I am going to stick with the Rage 5-S as I have been so impressed with the 255SMS mitre saw. It also means I can optimise the space in my single garage that will be my workshop. You have also inspired me to actually try and build bike storage similar, but smaller than your three part video build. Heading to the age of 70 next march, I have neglected woodwork for many years. I always loved it even if I am not perhaps that well versed. Watching you single handedly (See what I did there? Bet you never heard that one before!!!) make stuff that I would wonder if it was too big for me makes me want to get out and get started. Still, once the garage roof is repaired.. Stay safe buddy.
Thanks for the vid. Very informative even though i've had my saw a year now! What instruction book!?!? I don't suppose you have any idea what the small fence that attaches to the fence is for? Only thing i can think of is to be able to make narrower cuts as the main fence still fouls the thumbscrew on the guard, but see it as a hassle to use.
Thanks Calum for the kind feedback 👍. In regards to the ancillary fence, I don’t know for sure but this is my take on it. If you follow other makers on RUclips with the cabinet saws a lot of them are now using the smaller fence. I think the full fence is suitable for sheet goods like MDF as it is square with no chance of variation. I think the smaller fence (which should go up to half way of the blade) is for ripping timber. As timber has more potential to be warped / twisted etc it needs space once it passes the blade so it doesn’t pinch up against the fence potentially causing kick back. It’s only my thoughts on it and I’m not totally sure but it seems plausible 🤷♂️😀👍
It’s also for making cuts with the sliding mitre. A lot of people use the fence as a stop to get the same cuts. This is dangerous as the piece your cutting can get pinched between the blade and fence and ‘ping’ back at you. You set the little fence in front of the blade and use that to measure to instead. A bit like a stop block. Not very well explained I admit so… Check out this video from Steve Ramsay and forward it to 1:30 ruclips.net/video/JOhZxvgkWNM/видео.html
I am thinking about buying this table saw too and while I thank you for doing this video, I love the way the stand open up the table 1:10 😄👍 So now that you have had this saw for nearly 10 months, do you still like it ?? did you manage to overcome the problems you encountered ?? It looks like a great machine especially for the money, either I buy this Evolution Rage 5-S ?? or maybe the Black and Decker BES720-QS ?? I can't make up my mind though, what do you think ?? Thanks for taking the time to do the video Glen 😄👍
Hello Glen, thanks for the message😀. I think it’s fair to say the proof is in the pudding. If you look at any of my making videos since I done this one, you’ll see the Rage 5-S in action. I really like this table saw. The portability aspect is very good. I especially love the sliding side table, the fence is rock solid and very accurate, the extendable wings come in really handy when you’re using sheet materials and the fact the multi blade will cut through a variety of materials. At the price I paid in my humble opinion I don’t think there is any other saw that comes close to it. Keep an eye out on prices though Glen. With the Covid situation manufacturing obviously ground to a halt so prices went up to full retail and higher. I paid £230 in a reduced price last year. If it floats down to the £250 mark I think it is great value. If it’s closer to £300 and you’re not desperate for it I’d hang on til the prices stabilise 👍😀
@@Hand-i-Craft Hi again mate, I am surprised about the prices going up during Covid, you would have thought that they would have come down the way and not the other way around, I am in the situation where our family business went under thanks to covid bloody 19 (we were in the restaurant trade for many, many years but you can't work from home as a chef 😭😭and opening our doors but being forced to have half the amount of customers doesn't make sense either so we close permanently) 😣😣 so now I have decided to try and make my hobby (woodwork) my career as I can't live on fresh air, so I need to start an buy some more equipment as soon as possible. I hope it doesn't go to £300 as you say 😣 I've been looking seriously at all the adverts on the internet including B&Q, Homebase and Wickes, I've even looked in Argos, Toolfix and a few others but most of the stuff I see is out of stock due to Covid-19 😭😣 Glen from Edinburgh 😀 👍
Alright Glen, sorry to hear about your situation. I’ve often thought about the hospitality industry as I’m under the impression they work with such fine margins. I’d be guessing 60-70% occupancy you’re breaking even, then 75%+ is when a profit is turned 🤷♂️. So when the restrictions say 50% covers then there is simply no chance of surviving? The prices going up I get as I could well imagine people wanting to do DIY projects during lockdown, but the products aren’t being manufactured. So what little is left on the shelves don’t need to be discounted. I’m guessing now manufacturing is running at a better capacity the prices will hopefully reflect the availability. I hope your new venture is rewarding, both personally and financially 😀😀👍
@@Hand-i-Craft Yes absolutely correct, did you read todays news on your phone ?? BBC News says "Half price meal scheme begins....Diners across the UK will be able to enjoy half-price meals at more than 72,000 venues from today as government's Eat Out to Help scheme begins. The offer - available from Mondays - Wednesdays throughout August." So you see mate not only does the hospitality trade have tight margins but restaurants have to give their food away for half price just to get customers back through their doors 😲😲😭 I'm looking to new ventures and I have this thing about making coffee tables and chopping boards 👍 and if anybody could ever appreciate tables and chopping boards then that person is me purely because I have waited on tables in restaurants and hotels and chopped on chopping boards in their kitchens my entire working life. To me a chopping board is like a miniature table top, but there are some bloody clever woodworkers out there these days who can make a chopping board look like it was made by Van Gogh. I came up and through many high class restaurants and hotels before we set up our own restaurant business a number of years ago so I am extremely passionate about the food I make and create a masterpiece on a plate in looks, hopefully my passion for making good food will pass over to my woodworking skills and I can continue to show my art and design in the products I make out of wood. My father before me was my biggest inspiration, regretably he's passed now but he could make amazing stuff out of wood, he specialised in making Rennie Mackintosh chairs but in miniature versions all tongue and grooved too and were sold around the world to discerning clients, if I can achieve half of what he could do then I'll be happy 😀 Sorry to prattle on and on, I shall let you know which machine I get...... Glen 😀👍
Cheers Qwerty. Don’t think you’d be disappointed if you decided to invest in one. I’ve noticed recently they’ve been discounted to at times to £219.99 in the UK which is unbelievable value😀.
Thanks for making this video - I really like my Rage 5-s except for the blade guard which I’m pleased they changed. I had the old black style which was warped out of the box and sat on the blade! I feel safer knowing where the blade is with the clear version. I wish it had a zero clearance plate though. Any ideas how to make one for this machine?
Thanks Alastair. If you have a look at Tomas and his Casual DIY channel, he has two videos about making a zero clearance plate, one with limited tools ruclips.net/video/O5pmfjSjM2w/видео.html Also I think James’ Mancave does one with UPVC pipe so that might be worth a look too. Best wishes, Leo😀
Hola. Yo tengo una rage5 también, y aunque su fuerte no es la precisión, realmente la compré por económica y por poder cortar otros materiales, sobre todo metal. Pero no es para contar esto por lo que escribo este comentario, sino porque yo también estuve en esa misma situación durante más de dos meses pensando que ya me quedaría así siempre. De repente un día el dedo gordo se movió unos milímetros, y poco después, ante mi asombro, mi brazo derecho empezó a obedecerme de nuevo. Me he roto muchos huesos en mi vida, pero no es para nada comparable a una lesión nerviosa total (sobre todo si es la diestra). De pronto la herramienta más perfecta y útil pasa a ser un peso muerto que estorba y cansa. En mi caso del plexo braquial. Tanto es así, que noté sin duda un cambio en mi propia personalidad; volviéndome más sensible y empático. En esa situación, también para probarme, decoré un cuarto poniendo moqueta y pintando; moviendo muebles pesados… los aliados son la paciencia, el ingenio y la fuerza de voluntad; hay que seguir adelante y reprogramarse. Viendo el video se me ocurre que, para quitar el disco con una mano, habría que poner la llave fija en una tuerca y después sujetarla arriba con algún alambre o similar, y con la mano y otra llave fija girar la contratuerca. Es cuestión de paciencia e intentos. Pero cuidado, si estas son herramientas peligrosas con dos brazos, con uno solo lo son mucho más. Siempre sin corriente y con guante grueso para aflojar el disco. Felicidades por vivir.
Gracias Jesús por tu amable comentario. Disculpas si esta respuesta no tiene mucho sentido pero estoy usando el traductor de Google! Sí, mi lesión también fue en el nervio del plexo braquial y ocurrió hace 18 meses en un accidente automovilístico. No tuve sensación ni movimiento en mi brazo derecho durante más de un año, pero he comenzado a recuperar la sensación y ahora también puedo mover mis dedos una cantidad muy pequeña. Espero que me recupere, pero llevará mucho tiempo. ¡Espero que disfrutes de algunos de mis otros videos! Mis mejores deseos, Leo
@@Hand-i-Craft Me alegro Leo que ya mueva algo los dedos, ese es el mejor síntoma pues prueba que el nervio no se seccionó (o no totalmente); y es cuestión de tiempo entonces. Mucho ánimo. Jesús
Really helpful thank you. I’ve just bought one and thought it wasn’t as good as I’d thought because I’d done the same thing 😂. Why do you put the lubricating wax on please? And do I just look for lubricating wax or should it be a special one
Hello Mary, thanks for the message. You’d be amazed how many folk have got in touch about the riving knife adjustment! 😀 The lubricating wax is great as it makes the worktop lovely and smooth and provides a protective coat prolonging the life of the machine. You can also use it on other power tool surfaces like a band saw top for example. I wouldn’t use just any lubricant as some of them may soak into the wood your cutting. Liberon is the one I use, it’s not the cheapest, but you only need really small amounts so it’ll last for years. I think I left a link in the description if you want to check out the price. Best wishes, Leo 😀
Thank you so much Leo. Your videos are so helpful for me as an older female newbie. Seeing how you tackle problems gives me insights into how I can tackle the difficulties I come across.
The riving knife guard behind the blade is secured by a bolt underneath the orange plate. If you lift up the orange plate, lift up the adjustable riving knife and tighten the bolt it should be 👍 👍
Hi Leo, thanks for the informative video. I had a question on the wobble fix though. I tried to replicate your fix with duct tape (3 layers) but can't get it stable. Would you mind sharing what type of duct tape you have used?
Cheers for the message pal. Tbh I just used Gorilla duct tape and it worked fine. There is a possibility the mitre slots on your model if newer might be ever so slightly different. If you decide to go down the route of a cross cut sled like many folk do, I certainly recommend picking up some of these from Stu’s Etsy store. The mitre slots are not a standard fit so you can’t simply pick some after market mitre bars from any outlet, but Stu’s are made specifically for Evolution models 👍. www.etsy.com/uk/listing/1040934475/evolution-rage-5s-table-saw-mitre-bars?ref=shop_home_recs_15
Cheers John. I didn’t get a dust bag with it. The hose that is connected to the blade guard goes down to a connector that is designed for a dust / chip extractor. If I’m being brutally honest, to paraphrase a well known term, a dust bag would be like weeing in the wind so to speak😀
Hi great video, just ordered mine and have to wait till weekend for it. Question! why the wax oil on the plate after you finished with it. Keep up great work
Cheers Nudger. The wax is a good idea for any power tool with a surface as it reduces friction, thus prolonging the life of the tool and less friction means less stress on the blade. Obviously there are different brands so might be worth checking out prices. Liberon isn’t the cheapest but it lasts for years😀😀👍
There is an ancillary section to the fence Ima. From my perspective it depends what you’re ripping. If you’re ripping sheet goods that is square then the main fence is fine. If however you are ripping timber with natural variance, then the ancillary fence is recommended as it gives a bit more ‘breathing’ space behind the blade.
Hi Leo I finally got one of these following your review but the blade is not square to the table as yours was. Any idea how I can adjust this mate? The instructions do not cover this. I have shunted the blade into position but I can still see a gap at the bottom of the blade but not at the top. Thanks!
Alright Neil. Sorry to hear it isn’t set up right for you. If you send me an email to 75handicraft@gmail.com I can send you a picture for the bit that might be able to help you. Cheers, Leo
I struggled with this as well. The saw blade mount is not the securest of things. If you loosen the the two hex nuts behind the blade to the back of the table there is just enough play to square it with the mitre slots You'll obviously have to reset the fence to the blade but this made a world of difference to my rip cuts
Can’t really comment John as haven’t used the slightly older model. I will say Evolution are good at taking customer feedback on board so maybe they’ve made some adaptations to improve it? The blade guard certainly is a big improvement on James’ model
Hi thanks for the tip on the riving knife. Did you take it all the way up? Ive just purchased a Perspex one from evolution to replace the black original because I could not feel comfortable working with that one. Cheers John
PBFPartnership Cheers John for the message. Can I just ask why you’ve gone for a Perspex one? Is it to improve visibility when cutting? In regards to my use and the riving knife, yeah I pretty much have it in its highest setting. Two reasons really, firstly I’m one of probably a handful of folk who keeps the blade guard on so having the riving knife high improves visibility. Secondly I’ve just released a short video on how I change the blade just using the one hand. Having the riving knife high allows me to change the blade easier. It’d be easier to watch than for me to explain so if you have a spare few minutes you might want to have a butchers. Cheers, Leo 😀
@@Hand-i-Craft Leo, after using a Wickes table saw with a Perspex blade guard for donkeys years and being able to see the work progressing through the blade I just did not feel comfortable not being able to see the work. The Evo saw is a great piece of kit. Keep up your videos. they are very entertaining. Will watch your other video in the morning, its dog walking time now. cheers John
@@Hand-i-Craft yeah. I watched 86 cups later after posting. The video detailing building the stand shows lifting the knife before use. My 305mm ts is buried in the lockup. Just grabbed one of these for the van to save me digging it out
I’m sorry I can’t as I’ve sold it now. I do remember it has non standardised sizes, I think the answer may be somewhere in the comments section here 👍👍
I love this video! I'm in the market for one and would prefer not to push to the Dw745 because I've only got a one off hit of about 600 squirrelled away to spend. Are you happy with the multi purpose blade for woodwork or are you thinking of getting a dedicated wood blade?
Sawdust and Survival Morning Sawdust, it depends on the finish of cut you want really. The multipurpose blade cuts wood fine, but the finish on the cut isn’t fantastic. If your budget could stretch to getting the specific wood blade then yes I’d go for that as well. Just had a look on Amazon in the UK and the saw is on for £249.99 and with the extra blade it’s £282. I’m really happy with it, I’ve got a couple of videos coming out soon where I use it constantly through the projects. The more I use it the happier I am with the fact I bought it, particularly if you’re stepping up from something like a Workzone or Parkside table saw
To be fair I've not got a table saw at the moment! I keep getting people saying to get the DeWalt but with a stand it's double the price. Can't decide if Il should blow it all on the saw or I could get this, a thickness planer and a router.
Sawdust and Survival Understand where you’re coming from here pal. There are lots of makers on RUclips who use the Dewalt and I’ve no doubt it is an excellent machine, but option B you have would allow you to do lots more different woodworking techniques. I know what I’d do if I had your quandary, but ultimately it’s your call😀
I've just pulled the trigger on the Aldi thicknesser planer. I felt that was more urgent than the table saw because I've got a workbench project ongoing that I can hopefully joint the table top with. Excited!
And as for the table saw, I think you've settled it for me. If the Rage5s is good enough for you, it's certainly good enough for me. Thanks for the advice!
Alright Shaun, cheers for the message. My understanding is it is for when you are ripping natural wood materials, and not sheet goods like MDF, Plywood, OSB etc. With natural woods there can be a slight discrepancy in width so the additional fence plate goes up to the blade but allows a ‘breathing space’ beyond the blade so it can’t pinch between the fence and blade potentially causing kick back. Hope this makes sense, cheers, Leo 😀
Hello nerervarine, cheers for the message. I know due to the manufacturing industry closing down in China for a few months because of the Covid situation, basically once the back stock of Rage 5-S’s sold there are no more. Folk having been waiting months for them (globally not just UK). To appease potential buyers Evolution have brought out a saw that appears to have most of the features of the Rage 5-S, but is cheaper. I haven’t seen the specs of the new one, so if you do a little homework and if what I’ve said turns out to be true then your in for a bargain! I can imagine Rage5-S owners who’ve been paying full retail of over £330 will not be best pleased though 🤷♂️
Bought mine from Screwfix a couple of days ago. So far the differences I've found are - Only the right side of the table extends. Also there's no dust extraction hose supplied, which is a bit of a pain. Other than that the body of the saw is orange not black - as if that mattered. That seems to be the only difference.
Hello Rash, cheers for the message. The big yellow push block thing is called a grr-ripper and I bought it from Rutlands when they had it on offer, but they are widely available I think. It was quite expensive, not 100% sure but I think similar looking products are available on the sites that do direct delivery from China at a cheaper price. Hope this helps👍👍
Hello pal, how’s it going? 😀 It’d definitely be a step up from your Workzone saw, great solid fence, portability is excellent, extension arms are great, I even like the panel saw style movement on the top. At the time when I bought it it was £230 (pre covid) and I described it as the best value for money saw at that price, nothing comes close to it and I still stand by that. Biggest downsides are noise and dust extraction. It is very noisy, no problem with the ear defenders on but need to be mindful of neighbours etc when using it. Dust extraction, even with the vac hooked up, is awful. Not a problem if you’re mainly using it outside (as I was until I built the workshop), but inside it really shows how bad it is. I guess it boils down to what your needs are for a table saw and what downsides you’re prepared to live with. Even if you went one level up and bought the likes of the Dewalt, you’d get better dust extraction, but it’s still noisy as hell. The other reason I’m stepping away from it is the one handed thing. I’ve never had a scare or accident, but for some reason I’m feeling less confident. Looking at alternatives pal. Hope this helps and let me know what you decide to do 👍👍
@@Hand-i-Craft thank you brother... I saw casual DIY put a start up module on his to soften the start up... I had an old draper and it scared the life out of me... Sparks and fire work show every start-up lol... I might look at the 40v battery ones... Thanks again, and keep inspiring us all with your excellent videos mate
I was on the verge of sending mine back after ripping some 3x2 and feeling it pinch... I'll try the fence alignment your way and see how I get on cos otherwise I have been impressed with the saw so far. How are you getting on with it?
KevGW83 Cheers Kev. I love it tbh, it was a massive step up in terms of quality from my old Workzone table saw. Best features for me are the extending arms, sliding table and the fence which is rock solid. Hopefully you can sort the fence issue out. Someone else suggested lining it up against the insert plate line as that will always be square to the blade🤷♂️. Maybe worth trying. Best wishes, Leo
@@Hand-i-Craft it's my first table saw so always learning. I take it I lign the fence up parrelel with bolts on top of the fence loosened then once parallel lock the fence and tighten the bolts?
I've just bought this saw, been having a play with it today but my cuts dont seem clean, if I put my cut piece back against the fence or a straight edge I can see that it looks slightly wavy, do you have any suggestions as to why this could be happening, i'm hoping that its just the blade that could be slightly warped
Alright Liam, agree with you it’s a possibility the blade could be slightly warped. Also have you tried holding the blade to see if there is any slight sideways ‘wobble’ to check the blade is secured correctly to the arbor? Also maybe check the riving knife is correctly in line with the blade and isn’t diverting the wood slightly off course so to speak. Apologies I can’t be any more help, Evolution customer services are excellent though if you get in touch with them, or alternatively return it and get a replacement? Let me know how you get on? Cheers, Leo
Great video. Where are you storing the blade cover, when the unit is folded away? Im worried that if i leave it fitted to the riving knife, and being plastic that it may snap or crack easy when moving the unit around. Thanks
Thanks Phillip for the kind comments. I know what you’re saying about the blade guard. I’m quite lucky that the saw fits in neatly down the middle part of my garage workshop so it’s less likely to bang against anything when I put it away at night. I do lower the blade down though to its lowest setting to lessen it sticking out. How are you finding the saw btw?
Hello Kennedy, thanks for the message. I’ve been asked this a couple of times before. My honest answer is I don’t know, but I’d be inclined to say no. The arbour on it is very slim and would struggle to take a dado blade. Also one of my subscribers pointed out that here in the UK safety regulations don’t allow dado blades as it means you have to remove some key safety equipment to use them. You do see UK makers on RUclips using dado blades though as it is their choice in regards to safety, but I’ve not seen anyone to my knowledge using one on this saw. I know evolution don’t make a dado blade for their saws. Hope this is of some help, best wishes, Leo 😀
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Has anybody got info on a replacement fence for this saw? Is there an aftermarket fence out there?
Sorry I can’t help you with this Joe. Don’t know if this will help, but I’ll pin your comment to the top of the comments section for a few weeks and see if anyone could point you in the right direction 🤷♂️👍
Charnwood psf universal fence look at that’s if you haven’t sorted one out yet that is 👍
You can obtain a replacement direct from the evolution tools website. Replacements are fairly priced.
We shouldn’t. R asking the community 🥹🥹come on Rage producers get your fingers out and start listening. Trouble is they are all computer nerds producing these machines . They need a tried and tested experience joiners to develop these saws, but well worth the money. However I’m having to buy an after market saw guide??? What’s that all about . Would probably cost evo
A few Wyid at most. Now I’m having to shell out £15 for one . See what I mean?
like the mitre fix, gaffer tape, it saved the lives of astronauts, that's how versatile it is. good job:)
My old workshop was held together by good will and gaffer tape 😂😂
Hi Leo, great what you do!!
I also work with only Left hand, you,re the first person ever who I see working also with only Left!
Great to meet you !
Keep going!!!
Greetings Piet !
Thanks Piet and great to hear from a fellow solo left handed maker. There doesn’t appear to be many of us so thanks for the message. Best wishes from Liverpool, Leo 😀👍
We’ll done young man. I can call you that because I’m 76 yrs old and been joiner/ builder all my life and seen some mega changes in d I y hear over the years , sussed the riving knife problem before your 83 cups of tea 😀 only because I’ve been there done it worn the t shirt . Just invested in one of these machines myself. Looking forward to it. Keep up the good work and videos 👍👍
Thanks Graham for your very kind comments which is much appreciated and best of luck with your new table saw 👍👍
@@Hand-i-Craft 👍👍
You’re a genius! I was struggling to figure out how to align my rip fence. Problem solved! Thanks.
Thank you Marce, much appreciated 😀👍
thank goodness for this video - the blade guard was driving me nuts, same issues as you observed so I just took mine off......tomorrow morning I'll raise up the riving knife, many thanks for the video,
Thanks Cliff, it’s such a simple thing and it took me ages to figure out 😂😂. If you look through the comments here, don’t worry, we aren’t the first people to have the same issue 😀😂
I am new to all of this, but still bought one yesterday in the hope of doing a few projects. So this is very helpful especially the blade guard problem. At that point I would have been looking to return it under the banner of 'useless'. Thanks very much.
Thanks Albert, glad you found the video useful and good luck with your making projects 😀👍
Thanks for the video, I had the same issue with the guard. I was taking it off if I had thick timber , now I have a safer solution!
Thanks Paul, glad it was of some help 😀👍
Cheers buddy. Just assembled mine today and thought the guard wasn't right.! Great catch.! 😃 👍🏻
Cheers Gee, hope it works out well for you👍😀
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. This looks like a good quality saw that now seems to have been updated. I would most certainly purchase items based on your honest recommendation so I hope more companies will be in touch.
Thank you for your content, you are an inspiration for what can be done.
On the strength of your great video I have recently bought the R255PTS, poor man's version of the Rage 5S., it's basically the same just missing a few features, - left hand extension- I've bought round steel bar and fasteners and made my own version, drilling and tapping etc, the table is exactly the same, I.e. the mounts for the rods are there, and threaded where need be. My LH version extends some 300 mm.
Currently Evolution have no spares for the Rage to enable anyone to upgrade their R255 to a Rage variant, so Ebay and Amazon to the rescue. I have used a bit of CLS for the LH table, not ideal but as I can't get the real thing it'll have to do for now. The R255 doesn't come with a hose, so again vac hose will be used when it arrives from China.
Best wishes
Nice one, cheers Robert for the message. Please keep me posted on how you get on with the 255. Few folk been in touch with me about it and I’ve seen it advertised, but not up close. Best wishes, Leo
@@Hand-i-Craft, Hi Leo, I have 3 Evolution saws, chop, mitre and the R255. These tools are really good, being able to cut through all manner of materials.
When adapting the table saw I used it to cut through 12mm mild steel rod, although there where a few sparks, it did it with ease.
I had to adjust the blade travel to get to 90°, to get an accurate reading I used a digital inclinometer, so easy to use.
I assume the Rage and R255 will be as good as each other on performance. I look forward to my next build project to put it through it's paces.
Kind regards, Rob
Great vid ! I'm just taking a break as I'm halfway through putting one of these together and you popped up :)
Have got the legs on, now for the rest...
Hope the rest of the assembly went well, enjoy the saw and good luck with your building adventures 😀😀👍👍
Just to add - I brought this saw (and love it-wish I'd brought a table saw years ago) but had to return my first one back to screw fix. I had an issue where it would cut parallel & straight off the Fence when in non extended mode, but if I extended the right hand table, the fence would go completely out of alignment again. Turned out the aluminium sliding rail with the scale on it was completely bannan shaped (could only tell when I put a straight edge on it, not by eye), and when extending, it was twisting the fence. Took it back to screwfix (their return policy is amazing) and the 2nd one I got was bang on. All Good tips from Hand-I-Craft here... wish you'd done it sooner lad! as I figured all the same stuff out myself... including the adjustable riving knife yesterday - The adjustable riving knife is useful if you're trying to do rebate or Dado cuts, as you can't do them when it's higher than the top of the blade. Also, if you want to rip thin stuff down, make yourself a zero clearance insert - I did mine out of 18mm ply, using a hand router to sink it down - Makes all the difference for fine cuts.
Thanks Rob for such a kind and detailed post. Spot on with the insert plate and it’s top of my to do list. It’ll help to stop losing thin strips, plus if I do it with ply like you said it’ll strengthen it up a bit.
I think it’s a great piece of kit and fantastic value for money. I love the sliding table feature and the fence is rock solid. Cheers Rob, Leo 😀
Great video, I am still debating which table saw to buy, to replace my 20 year old saw, For the money it looks good value, and the easy portability and the extendable wings are also great plus points.
Thanks for the comment Cottage. If you have a look at my channel, I’ve just released a video on making a modular coal storage box. It is lengthy at 28 mins, but if you are seriously considering the Evolution Rage 5-S Saw you’ll see it properly put through its paces with the side wings fully extended, sheet materials cut, full use of sliding panel and mitre gauge etc. Hope it is of some help, best wishes, Leo 😀
Thanks, re-watching this as I have just bought one of these beasts, and pretty pleased so far. I did read the manual about raising the riving knife, so that was ok :D
However after first test rips I find my riving knife is not exactly in line - only a fraction of a millimetre jutting outside the blade but enough to be a bit sticky when feeding to that point.
So about to adjust the riving knife again to make sure it is in line well enough for a smooth feed. Seems a critical safety point!
Cheers Ged and thanks for the comment. Yes it can need a few tweaks here and there to get working ‘properly’, but I stand by this comment I have said many times that for the money it is the best value table saw in that price bracket. If you are on Facebook there is an excellent group call Evolution Rage 5-S User Group which I’d really recommend joining. Some great hints and tips on there 👍👍
Thanks for the video, showing the riving knife error was brill, wonder how many have returned it because they didn't drink enough brews! 👍
👍👍Cheers Sly Wolf 😀👍
It’s in the instructions school boy error it should be 10mm above
@@budemonkey I'm assuming by your name that you are female? Which would explain your comment? As a female you have failed to grasp one of the fundamental male characteristics..... Men just don't do instruction manuals 😊😂😂😂
I came across this video looking for a way to ensure the fence was parallel to the blade... And came away with the duct tape on the mitre slider and finally worked out how to fit the blade guard... I also could not work it out so cheers!
Cheers rithotyn, the amount of folk who’ve thanked me for the tip about the blade guard is incredible 😀😀. And there was just me who thought I couldn’t figure it out. Thanks for the message, best wishes, Leo 😀
Oh, thank you for the riving knife tip. I had no idea it was adjustable and I took the blade guard off, which I don't like. I'll sort it tomorrow, even if it is 1 deg C in the workshop.
Thanks for the message Steve. I’m guessing quite a few folk may upgrade to the Rage 5s from the likes of a very budget brand where adjustable riving knife simply doesn’t exist and assume that is the case with most table saws🤷♂️. If you look through the comments in this video the amount of folk who’ve made the same ‘mistake’ makes you and me feel a lot better about things 😀😀👍
Hi thanks for the riving knife tip I bought this saw after watching many youtube reviews including yours. I used the saw for 18mm MDF with no issue, I tried to rip down some 2x5 and hit the same problem as you hence back to watch again. they must ship like that as I don't remember assembling the riving knife myself. thanks again subbed and liked
Thank you Martin for the kind feedback 👍. I know I’ve had it pointed out to me on more than one occasion that of course this is explained in the manual but I imagine only a relative small percentage of folk actually read the manual before letting themselves loose on their new tools😂😂
thanks very much for the tips on setting up very helpful especially the issue with the height of the guard, mine is due later today and this will save my hours and hours of figuring out so thanks for solving that issue for me cheers
stephengreasley72 Thanks Stephen. It’s amazing how many folk have struggled with the blade guard, not realising the riving knife is height adjustable. Good luck with the saw and hope you get really good use out of it!
@@Hand-i-Craft about to make a log cabin in my back garden, got all the other cordless tools I need chopsaw etc etc but wanted something like this to rip all the ply sheets thanks again
I once had to have my arm in a full cast for 12 weeks and it drove me insane. You're mad for power tooling one handed and I'm here for it! Thinking of picking one of these up. I've looked at them for years but every time I've backed out because of the QC issues and accuracy of cuts so look at dewalts etc but then it doesn't fit my budget for the rest of the tools I need and I back out. I think I'm just going to go for it and face the fact I'll need to square up between cuts.
I think at its price point, it is the best value for money saw on the market 😀👍
@@Hand-i-Craft oh, for sure! I'd be really interested to see a head to head on how accurately cuts can be made on this vs the reigning budget friendly dewalt etc. Parallel width over long boards, miter angles etc. See how accurate it can be and then see how accurate it can be under timed use.
I’ve been looking to buy this table saw for a while now & since I’ve watched a few videos on this product I’ve already got a couple of Evolution products already like the sliding mitre saw & circular saw which I’m very happy with so probably going to purchase this table saw to replace my Excel portable jobsite 210mm which the fence spot on only down side really is it’s got a splitter on instead or riving knife which means it also stays fixed so can’t use the Grrr- ripper on it which I’ve just bought 🤣
The tip about the blade guard was very helpful thank you! I had to laugh because I also had 86 brews but I didn't figure it out!
Cheers Stan for the comment, much appreciated 😀. I don’t know if you were like me upgrading from a budget table saw before purchasing the Evolution saw, so it just never occurred to me that the riving knife would be adjustable! Ah well, got there in the end😂
@@Hand-i-Craft this is actually my first table saw, just getting into the hobby now. I liked the versatility of this one plus the dust extraction on the blade guard. Now that I know the knife rises, I dug the blade guard out of the bin 😅😅
Thanks for taking the time to make the video
Hi. The fence is attached to the riving knife, so I took the RK off, and cut through the slot right to the bottom of it (following the arc). Then, you can lift the RK up as far as you can in the slot, and attach the fence. This should help greatly,. Give it a try! Great channel, by the way
Brilliant, thanks John for the tip and cheers for your very kind feedback 👍😀
Have you thought of using a feather board? To help you hold or even press pieces firmly to the fence when ripping long boards? I think this'd be a great compensation for a second hand!
Thanks hbert and yes a great idea. Folk recommended them to me for my planer as well so they will be added at some point 👍
Thanks for the mention Leo. My blade guard as you say is completely different, even the fixing screw is different. And that's a very good tip about the slack in the mitre gauge slot, seen it done before, but not got around to it yet - you have just reminded me I must do it 👍😃
Cheers James. This new blade guard looks much better than on the version you have so I am going to stick with it and see how it goes, especially now that I know the riving knife height can be adjusted 🤯💡😀
thank you for that, very informative. I have one on order and those tips will be very welcome.
Thanks Reg, hope it works out well for you. I don’t another very short video about a guy who makes a brilliant kill switch for it. Have a look if you get a chance and a thoroughly recommend it😀👍
Loved the video Leo, I'm trying to decide on what rip saw to get and at least I won't have to buy 86 brews if I get this one because you have helped me problem solve already. Great channel and great videos too.
Nice one pal, just subscribed and looking forward to future content 😀
Brilliant video. Saw arrived yesterday so I'm been frantically Youtubing content. Found one on how to build it and bookmarked this video several weeks ago to make. sure I used it to fine tune the saw once built. Thank you! Saved me so much time and frustration. Also the Gorilla Tape hack is awesome! First thing I did once the basic table was completed!
Cheers for the comment channelwhywhywhy 😀. I’m really happy with the saw. Love the sliding table feature, the extendable wings and the fence is rock solid 👍😀. Hope you get lots of good use from it😀😀
@@Hand-i-Craft Actually not sure if you could give me any tips but I'm struggling with the fence alignment. I've followed your guidance and my fence is slightly out at the far end of the table. I undo the bolts, adjust and then lock and tighten the bolts but it continues to pitch at the top. Any ideas? Do I need to be careful on the tighten? any tips appreciated.
Sorry for such a late reply as I’ve only just seen this. Did you manage to sort the alignment issue? Not sure if this would work but try and align the fence against the insert plate line as that is perfectly parallel to the blade, loosen the bolts then maybe half apply the locking clamp to see if that will hold the fence in place then tighten the bolts up? I’m only thinking out loud here as I haven’t tried it but it may help keep the fence in place whilst you lock up the bolts🤷♂️. Good luck and let me know how you get on. Cheers, Leo 😀
@@Hand-i-CraftI did thank you. A little bit of user error and a bit of trial and error, all sorted now 👍
Good on you mate , Nice and helpful I too am thinking of buying one of these ,and you have helped me no end Thank you
Cheers Anthony, glad the video has come in handy for you, even if in some little way 😀👍
Excellent! I think that the sliding section of the table really sets this unit apart from others esp in this price range.
My one gripe is the lack of a factory fitted soft start module.
However there are numerous YT videos addressing this if you’re electrically minded.
If not have an electrician do it for you. 👏🇦🇺✌️
Totally agree Markie about the sliding table feature, I use it all the time. I’ve seen the soft start adjustment and might get it fitted. My saw is out of warranty now so maybe worth fitting 👍👍
I’m a new subscriber to ur channel. Basically because you’re a a plain speaking English guy, who is more proficient with one hand than I am with two (please don’t take offence). I just bought the Rage 255pts & it’s immense. I’ll try your tape trick with the mitre though! Thanks. Joe
Thanks Joe for the kind feedback and apologies for the late reply. The comment was held in the 'possibly spam' box and I've only just seen it! Best wishes from Liverpool, Leo 😀
Thanks, really useful, I suspect I'd have made the same mistake with the riving knife when I get mine so it has probably saved me 86 brews!
You’d be amazed how many folk have said the same DIY 😂😂😂👍👍
Cheers, Leo. Always fancied a sliding table... Maybe have a look at this down the line.
First impressions are really positive Alasdair, but will need to properly put it through its paces. Luckily I’ve got a stack loads of projects it is going to be needed for 😀
Hi Leo, I'd just like to say how much I like your Vids, you are an inspiration. Re the Evolution Rage 5 S Table saw, can you tell me if it could be mounted on a trolley cabinet instead of being on the portable stand thingy it comes with. I want it as a shop saw without the frame work as it would only be used in my workshop.
Looking forward to your next vid on the new workshop, but please wait until the weather improves, I had to turn up the heating as I watched you fitting the insulation panels and doing the foil taping. stay safe in this strange time we are living through.
Thanks Tom for your very kind comments 😀👍. And yes you can use the Rage 5 mounted in a trolley cabinet if you like. It’s quite simple to detach from the stand and re-attach if necessary. Glad this stage of the workshop build is done as it was a bit physically and mentally draining, but it’s done now and we move on👍👍
Have you thought about making a router table to fit on the other side, and use the fence for both saw and router. Great tips by the way. 👍
I have the R255PTS and it fits this model. Bought one after watching the video, the safety device has 15% off at the mo so it's £10.20 + £2.90 postage. Cheers.
Thanks Deb for the message. Such a simple great idea that makes it so much safer and easier to use 👍👍👍
What an amazing an informative video. God bless you mate
Thank you for your kind comments, much appreciated 😀😀👍👍
This is the video I was looking for! Practical tips from someone who actually uses the saw. Something interesting in the video that no one else seems to have asked about is the very nice looking push stick you use (not a stick at all but I don't know what it might be called) . Can be seen clearly @10.39 on the video but I can't find anything like it out in the wild.
Found it on Amazon. GR-200 MICRO JIG GRR-Ripper Advanced 3D Pushblock. It's a beauty, but expensive.
Thanks Chris for your very kind feedback 👍. Google micro jig grr-ripper and you’ll find it😀👍
It is Chris, I’ve heard from other folk that (identical) versions of it are available on other sites that sell Chinese copies of existing products. Might be worth a look🤷♂️
Some useful tips as I am getting mine tomorrow, another sale for the man cave! great video and crudos for the one handed skills! thanks a lot :)
Polecat54941 Cheers Polecat, had it a month or so now and really happy with it. It is a massive step up from my previous Workzone tablesaw. Once you get the fence square (if it isn’t already) it locks really tight and is a great feature. Also I love the sliding table on the left side. Couple that with the mitre gauge and trimming my cutting boards is so simple. Finally don’t forget the riving knife is height adjustable 😀😀
@@Hand-i-Craft I assembled mine today and despite watching your video and reading your reply I still forgot to raise the knife when I made my first cut! in fairness it does say in the manual that I read afterwards, I think they put it at the lowest setting so it is flat in the box :)
Polecat54941 Took me hours to figure it out Polecat and, as you say, it was in the manual all along! Who reads the manual hey😂. Forgot to mention I’d recommend getting the specific wood blade if you can stretch to it at some point. I’m keeping the multi blade for cutting anything apart from wood and switching to the wood blade. Another thing I like about it is it is easy to swap between blades so it’s worth it when you’ve got the funds
Nice video, I'm consnidering buying this saw and you've worked through it really well 👍🏽
Cheers foolsgold. For price I think it’s the best value saw out there. Lots of really useful features, biggest issue with them since the covid situation is availability. I know manufacturing for Evolution took a big hit so it’s taken a while for products to start coming through again
I’ve got this exact saw and came looking for a way to set the fence up better because mine, although I’ve set it up to be square, has a lot of play in it so I have to set it top and bottom to the blade or it pinches and jams. It seems a bit too loose so when you clamp it down it can be at an angle. Watching your video made me remember why I never use the blade guard too. It is definitely poorly designed and doesn’t allow for you to pass through it unless it’s fully extended and even then can get in the way.
Cheers for the comment Giggidy, sounds like there could be a problem with your fence because mine locks square and solid. Customer services at Evolution are very good so may be worth giving them a ring. I’ve persevered with the blade guard and am used to it now. It’s much better than the previous black plastic design, but it’s not perfect.
I have exactly the same experience with the play in the fence.
Brian Hewitt it doesn’t matter how I adjust it it’s never right. I have to measure top and bottom from the blade to the fence, put the fence clamp half down so it’s grabbing but not at full strength then check for square again before I tighten it all the way. Then sometimes it’s still off and I get it jamming half way and it won’t cut straight. I could never do the half cut then flip to do the other half because it’d never line up no matter what. I love the actual saw but the fence is a nightmare.
Thanks for sharing tips. I had one of these for a year and I take off the hood for deep cuts... after watching this video, I can adjust it properly and use it as it’s meant to be used.
Where are the blade adjusters underneath because I can’t find them!
Thanks again
Thanks Zaid👍. Are you talking about the riving knife adjusters? It’s simply the bolt that secures the riving knife into place needs loosening then you can raise / lower the riving knife then tighten the bolt back up. Hope this is of some help👍😀
@@Hand-i-Craft thank you for taking time to reply. I thought you said (on the type subtitle) there are adjustments screws underneath! Maybe I misunderstood! Basically is there another way of adjusting the blade apart from the catch by the height wheel?
Thanks again
Just got my saw today. Thank you for the tips. 👍
Thanks James, hope it works out well for you👍👍😀😀. Best wishes, Leo
just found your videos and have subscribed, im saving up for one of these to help start my woodworking career! and im glad i seen this video
Nice one, thanks John and good luck with your making adventures 👍👍😀😀
Found the hardest thing about putting it together was getting the wheel frame the right way round😞
@@chrissmith-wq6gr Made the same mistake 😂😂😂
@@chrissmith-wq6gr cheers i'll keep that in mind. amazon are doing it as a monthly subscription so now i can afford it
Thanks a lot Dude really helpful, waiting for more videos from you
Thanks Hamdy👍👍😀😀
I had the same problem on my guard. I'll try what you did. Cheers.
Cheers Mike, let me know how you get on👍😀
@@Hand-i-Craft good gawd it works! Note the dropped nose on your knife. The picture in the manual is not that shape. So I think you did what I did and followed the manual and set the knife top 10mm above the blade. Pulling it right up and all well.
Nice one Mike. Glad it worked out👍👍
Thanks bro. Just set mine up this morning.
Nice one, thanks Michael. Hope it goes well for you, I think it is a fantastic piece of kit and really good value for money. Best wishes, Leo
I just assembled mine and thought the same thing. Glad you made this video. Thanks!
Nice one Raph. Hope it works out well for you😀. Cheers, Leo
Could you please advise whether the miter-gauge slot is of depth:9.5mm and width:19.0mm. Grateful for your reply.
Hello Harry, I’ll have a look for you over the weekend. They are definitely ‘non standard’ sizes, if you look at stuparkercreations on Etsy he sells mitre slots that fit perfectly into the Rage 5-S so he may have the dimensions in the description 👍👍👍
Hi bud. I've just bought this model and decided to watch a few videos on putting it together as the book isn't that good. When I watched your video, at the point where your trying to fit the safty guard, I was hoping you would suss that you needed to adjust the riving knife. Glad you sussed it in the end. Nice job.
Cheers Mac, took a while but I got there in the end😂
Great review mate, exactly what did you do with the riving knife adjustment bit please?
Cheers Gary
Thanks Gary, very kind of you to comment. If you take the orange clearance plate off and look at the riving knife, it has a bolt securing it to the frame of the blade. Just loosen that bolt and raise / lower the riving knife to the desired height and tighten the bolt back up. Hope this helps 👍👍
Very well done setting the riving knife with one arm, you're showing me up when I cant do wood working with two arms
Cheers Tom. It’s quite surprising how you end up adapting to life in a different way😀. Cheers, Leo 😀
Great video. Could i cut a piece of 6 ft scaffold board length ways? Looks like the guard might be in the way.
You can Steve as the guard can be raised up👍👍
Great vid pal. Any tips to set the blade exaxt 90 degrees? i have one o them digital set square jobbys, and engineers set squares. but with one Arm (i'm the same, but left arm is gone) getting it nearly 90 is a pain. hope that makes sence? without getting someone to set it i found the angle of ripping was bad on long stetches of wood. i also use as many clamps & jigs to make it easier.take care Bri
Hello again pal, yes it is a pain. There is a washer and screw you can adjust behind the paddle that unlocks the angle adjustment. If the blade is not getting up to 90 degrees then maybe have a look at that 👍👍
@@Hand-i-Craft ohhhh i remember now.
my 🧠 fails me, i think i got my pal to set up after changing from 45 dergrees. tbh it’s got prety spot on. i’ll faff on with it next couple o days. Itching to get back as i need to build a cross cut jig. take care. bri 🫡
Great video, table saw blade and fence should be set to the miter slot as its permanently fixed at 90 degrees. However i dont know if thats possible with smaller saws
Nice one, cheers for the comment Lee and thanks for the tip😀, Leo
I am looking to get this saw and appreciate your tips
Cheers Adrian, hope it works out well for you 👍😀
Leo if you haven’t got one of these it is a great add on EVOLUTION RAGE5-S/R255PTS Emergency Stop Paddle.
Cheers Jeffery, I did the video that really helped to launch the guy’s business who makes them 😀😀👍👍
Good video with a lot of useful tips. I bought the table saw just recently and I'm still tuning it up. I am able to get the rip fence parallel to the blade. The problem I have is that this fence is not 90 degrees to the table surface itself. Clamped or not it is a little crooked. when the fence is at your right hand side the top of the fence is about 1 mm more towards the blade. If you cut multiple sheets of the same thickness in equal width this is not really a problem. But if you want to cut for instance 18 mm thick wood on a width of say 100 mm and combine this with a piece of wood of 64 mm thickness the rip width will be 99 mm instead of 100 (more or less). With this it is (only)1% off but if the width would be 50 mm then is goes up to 2% (still being only 1 mm of course).
My question is if and how you could adjust the fence so it is perpendicular to the table surface.
I would be very grateful if you or somebody else would take a look at that.
Thanks Peter, much appreciated for the comments. My sincere apologies as it stands I’m not able to help you with this issue around the fence being perpendicular to the table. I thought I had the same problem but it was the blade that wasn’t square to the table and not the fence. The blade needs to be ‘firmly’ shunted into position by the adjuster underneath to achieve a 90 degree angle, maybe do a double check that it is the blade and not the fence that isn’t square?
What I would say is have you been in touch with Evolution themselves? I’m not sponsored by them or have any other reason to recommend them, but their customer service is excellent so hopefully they could help sort it for you.
@@Hand-i-Craft Thanks for your swift reply. I really appreciate this. I own the table saw now for a week or so and I didn't cut yet anything with it. I am just trying to get things lined up as it should be. And as the fence concerns I use a small precision square (which is really square) and then I see this (small) gap. To be honest as I not yet did cut any thing this will be a problem which will occur in real life. As I said which the same thickness it won't be an issue. But theoretically it will be when you want small thickness wood to have the same width as thicker thickness wood. But maybe I should first cut some wood with this table. (the table is still in my living room which my wife doesn't really appreciate and I won't do any cutting in there as you can imagine)
I think I'm going to try to put some washers on the left or right side of front of the fence where the two plastic glides are situated. If the fence is not clamped I can tilt it a little so that the fence is square to the table. And you see that when you clamp it the two plastic gliders move forward towards the aluminium rail which has a curve. If I adjust the heigth of one of them and if the clamping doesn't ruin this 'new' position then it should be oké. Maybe I have to adjust the fence then again to be parallel to the blade and this operation could also offset my initial 'solution'. I don't know.
I will try this tomorrow and I'll let you know what the results are.
Again thanks for your reply and again also for your video.
Nice one Peter, let me know how you get on 😀. Cheers, Leo
@@Hand-i-Craft Hello Leo, did not yet do the washer option. Now I think it is better first to start to cut wood. See if alle other settings are correct. Blade align with miter slot and with the rip fence. Blade perpendicular with the table. Fence aligned with miter slot and blade. The see how serious my problem is with the crooked fence. I can always use the little additional accompanying fence wich is not too high so the crookedness of the big rip fence is not that important more or less. And finally if it bothers me and the washer option doesn't solve this I can produce an artificial rip fence. But I must be sure that blade settings are correct. I have to do this outside because my shop for now has not the space to do all this. I think it will take some weeks to do this. But I will inform you about the progress!
Thanks again for thinking along with me.
I think I have found the solution now. Seen in a French video about the Rage 5S saw table (ruclips.net/video/nz9HvZa_3UU/видео.html). minute 12 and further.
He uses the two bolts on the parallel guide to place it perpendicular to the table. I thought they could only be used to connect the parallel guide parallel to the saw blade and / or the T-slots.
But apparently they are also used to get the fence 90 degrees towards the table face.
So that is solved!
No experiments with washers. :)
Just have to build in a soft starter.
This could be a good answer for me if I ever change my ancient table saw. It was my dad’s, he bought it in the mid 70s. I don’t use it much though, I tend to use my Aldi track saw, my band saw and my mitre saw.
My Aldi table saw was on its last legs Tony, plus it was always in the way on the wheel mounts I placed it on. It is early days yet but I’m very happy with my new acquisition. Floor space wise it takes up a lot less room when not in use, it is a major step up build quality wise and useability it is in a different league. It is interesting with Evolution though as they pitch their pricing of the higher end models somewhere between budget and premium. I paid £250 for this which is quite a lot budget end, but low premium end. It’ll be interesting to see what I think of it in the coming months, but I’ve been very impressed up to now 😀
How has the Aldi stuff been in terms of precision? It's always cheap enough to encourage me but expensive enough that if it's not precise enough, then it's a total waste of money. Never took the plunge..
I watched a video of the saw done by evolution you can prevent the wobble and free play in the mitre guide by screwing the mitre guide into the hole at the start of the T slot
It does state in the instructions to adjust the riving knife 10mm ABOVE the blade... Nice tip about the mitre wiggle though
I know what you’re saying Kemikal and you’re absolutely right about the instruction manual. If you read the comments here it’s not just me who doesn’t always read the manual 😂😀
Haha... Oh dear. I’ve just bought a similar Evolution saw. Seems like they need a few million years more to adapt to modern handicraft techniques.
Thanks for the video. I see you aren't using the fence face plate that comes with the saw... It makes it harder to get straight cuts but the manual pretty clearly says it should be left attached?
Thanks John for the message. It’s a good point and something that I’m continually learning with. From discussion with other folk I think sheet goods are fine against the fence, but cutting wood should be with the ancillary fence plate in place. It’s a practice I’ve adopted now 😀
Great vid, thanks. I am going to get one of these, istill waiting to find one in stock! This whole virus thing has meant that imports are slower and sometimes non existent! Even Evolution are out of stock! But good video for someone who has never had a table saw before (ME!) I do have their 255SMS single Mitre Saw and I just love that! Have tots of projects and that to make, hope I don't have to wait too long.
Hello Pete, thanks for your kind comment sir, much appreciated 😀. There have been quite a few comments recently on here about it being out of stock. Don’t know where you are around the world, but what I would say is maybe leave it a little while, even when stock returns.
I noticed they upped the price in March and April (as every other manufacturer did) so maybe they will still be charging full retail when they become available again, or even a revised higher retail price. To put it in context I paid £230 last year and at that price it is exceptional value for money. If they start charging north of £350 for them that bring the likes of the Dewalt table saw into that kind of bracket. I’ve never used the Dewalt but follow a lot of RUclips guys who do and swear by it. So maybe, as tempting as it would be to just buy it, hold on a little when they become available and I’m sure there will be deals available on them soon after. Best wishes, Leo 😀
@@Hand-i-Craft Thanks for the reply Leo. I am going to stick with the Rage 5-S as I have been so impressed with the 255SMS mitre saw. It also means I can optimise the space in my single garage that will be my workshop. You have also inspired me to actually try and build bike storage similar, but smaller than your three part video build. Heading to the age of 70 next march, I have neglected woodwork for many years. I always loved it even if I am not perhaps that well versed.
Watching you single handedly (See what I did there? Bet you never heard that one before!!!) make stuff that I would wonder if it was too big for me makes me want to get out and get started. Still, once the garage roof is repaired.. Stay safe buddy.
Well done ! 👍👍👍
Thanks Netmark😀👍
Thanks for the vid. Very informative even though i've had my saw a year now! What instruction book!?!?
I don't suppose you have any idea what the small fence that attaches to the fence is for? Only thing i can think of is to be able to make narrower cuts as the main fence still fouls the thumbscrew on the guard, but see it as a hassle to use.
Thanks Calum for the kind feedback 👍. In regards to the ancillary fence, I don’t know for sure but this is my take on it. If you follow other makers on RUclips with the cabinet saws a lot of them are now using the smaller fence. I think the full fence is suitable for sheet goods like MDF as it is square with no chance of variation. I think the smaller fence (which should go up to half way of the blade) is for ripping timber. As timber has more potential to be warped / twisted etc it needs space once it passes the blade so it doesn’t pinch up against the fence potentially causing kick back. It’s only my thoughts on it and I’m not totally sure but it seems plausible 🤷♂️😀👍
It’s also for making cuts with the sliding mitre. A lot of people use the fence as a stop to get the same cuts. This is dangerous as the piece your cutting can get pinched between the blade and fence and ‘ping’ back at you. You set the little fence in front of the blade and use that to measure to instead. A bit like a stop block. Not very well explained I admit so…
Check out this video from Steve Ramsay and forward it to 1:30 ruclips.net/video/JOhZxvgkWNM/видео.html
I am thinking about buying this table saw too and while I thank you for doing this video, I love the way the stand open up the table 1:10 😄👍
So now that you have had this saw for nearly 10 months, do you still like it ?? did you manage to overcome the problems you encountered ?? It looks like a great machine especially for the money, either I buy this Evolution Rage 5-S ?? or maybe the Black and Decker BES720-QS ?? I can't make up my mind though, what do you think ??
Thanks for taking the time to do the video
Glen 😄👍
Hello Glen, thanks for the message😀. I think it’s fair to say the proof is in the pudding. If you look at any of my making videos since I done this one, you’ll see the Rage 5-S in action. I really like this table saw. The portability aspect is very good. I especially love the sliding side table, the fence is rock solid and very accurate, the extendable wings come in really handy when you’re using sheet materials and the fact the multi blade will cut through a variety of materials.
At the price I paid in my humble opinion I don’t think there is any other saw that comes close to it.
Keep an eye out on prices though Glen. With the Covid situation manufacturing obviously ground to a halt so prices went up to full retail and higher. I paid £230 in a reduced price last year. If it floats down to the £250 mark I think it is great value. If it’s closer to £300 and you’re not desperate for it I’d hang on til the prices stabilise 👍😀
@@Hand-i-Craft Hi again mate, I am surprised about the prices going up during Covid, you would have thought that they would have come down the way and not the other way around, I am in the situation where our family business went under thanks to covid bloody 19 (we were in the restaurant trade for many, many years but you can't work from home as a chef 😭😭and opening our doors but being forced to have half the amount of customers doesn't make sense either so we close permanently) 😣😣 so now I have decided to try and make my hobby (woodwork) my career as I can't live on fresh air, so I need to start an buy some more equipment as soon as possible. I hope it doesn't go to £300 as you say 😣 I've been looking seriously at all the adverts on the internet including B&Q, Homebase and Wickes, I've even looked in Argos, Toolfix and a few others but most of the stuff I see is out of stock due to Covid-19 😭😣
Glen from Edinburgh 😀 👍
Alright Glen, sorry to hear about your situation. I’ve often thought about the hospitality industry as I’m under the impression they work with such fine margins. I’d be guessing 60-70% occupancy you’re breaking even, then 75%+ is when a profit is turned 🤷♂️. So when the restrictions say 50% covers then there is simply no chance of surviving?
The prices going up I get as I could well imagine people wanting to do DIY projects during lockdown, but the products aren’t being manufactured. So what little is left on the shelves don’t need to be discounted. I’m guessing now manufacturing is running at a better capacity the prices will hopefully reflect the availability.
I hope your new venture is rewarding, both personally and financially 😀😀👍
@@Hand-i-Craft Yes absolutely correct, did you read todays news on your phone ?? BBC News says "Half price meal scheme begins....Diners across the UK will be able to enjoy half-price meals at more than 72,000 venues from today as government's Eat Out to Help scheme begins. The offer - available from Mondays - Wednesdays throughout August." So you see mate not only does the hospitality trade have tight margins but restaurants have to give their food away for half price just to get customers back through their doors 😲😲😭
I'm looking to new ventures and I have this thing about making coffee tables and chopping boards 👍 and if anybody could ever appreciate tables and chopping boards then that person is me purely because I have waited on tables in restaurants and hotels and chopped on chopping boards in their kitchens my entire working life. To me a chopping board is like a miniature table top, but there are some bloody clever woodworkers out there these days who can make a chopping board look like it was made by Van Gogh. I came up and through many high class restaurants and hotels before we set up our own restaurant business a number of years ago so I am extremely passionate about the food I make and create a masterpiece on a plate in looks, hopefully my passion for making good food will pass over to my woodworking skills and I can continue to show my art and design in the products I make out of wood. My father before me was my biggest inspiration, regretably he's passed now but he could make amazing stuff out of wood, he specialised in making Rennie Mackintosh chairs but in miniature versions all tongue and grooved too and were sold around the world to discerning clients, if I can achieve half of what he could do then I'll be happy 😀
Sorry to prattle on and on, I shall let you know which machine I get......
Glen 😀👍
Brilliantly useful tips there. I think I might have to treat myself to one of those.
Cheers Qwerty. Don’t think you’d be disappointed if you decided to invest in one. I’ve noticed recently they’ve been discounted to at times to £219.99 in the UK which is unbelievable value😀.
Thanks for making this video - I really like my Rage 5-s except for the blade guard which I’m pleased they changed. I had the old black style which was warped out of the box and sat on the blade! I feel safer knowing where the blade is with the clear version. I wish it had a zero clearance plate though. Any ideas how to make one for this machine?
Thanks Alastair. If you have a look at Tomas and his Casual DIY channel, he has two videos about making a zero clearance plate, one with limited tools ruclips.net/video/O5pmfjSjM2w/видео.html Also I think James’ Mancave does one with UPVC pipe so that might be worth a look too. Best wishes, Leo😀
@@Hand-i-Craft Thanks for the pointer. That’s the next project booked in!
Hola. Yo tengo una rage5 también, y aunque su fuerte no es la precisión, realmente la compré por económica y por poder cortar otros materiales, sobre todo metal. Pero no es para contar esto por lo que escribo este comentario, sino porque yo también estuve en esa misma situación durante más de dos meses pensando que ya me quedaría así siempre. De repente un día el dedo gordo se movió unos milímetros, y poco después, ante mi asombro, mi brazo derecho empezó a obedecerme de nuevo. Me he roto muchos huesos en mi vida, pero no es para nada comparable a una lesión nerviosa total (sobre todo si es la diestra). De pronto la herramienta más perfecta y útil pasa a ser un peso muerto que estorba y cansa. En mi caso del plexo braquial. Tanto es así, que noté sin duda un cambio en mi propia personalidad; volviéndome más sensible y empático. En esa situación, también para probarme, decoré un cuarto poniendo moqueta y pintando; moviendo muebles pesados… los aliados son la paciencia, el ingenio y la fuerza de voluntad; hay que seguir adelante y reprogramarse.
Viendo el video se me ocurre que, para quitar el disco con una mano, habría que poner la llave fija en una tuerca y después sujetarla arriba con algún alambre o similar, y con la mano y otra llave fija girar la contratuerca. Es cuestión de paciencia e intentos. Pero cuidado, si estas son herramientas peligrosas con dos brazos, con uno solo lo son mucho más. Siempre sin corriente y con guante grueso para aflojar el disco.
Felicidades por vivir.
Gracias Jesús por tu amable comentario. Disculpas si esta respuesta no tiene mucho sentido pero estoy usando el traductor de Google! Sí, mi lesión también fue en el nervio del plexo braquial y ocurrió hace 18 meses en un accidente automovilístico. No tuve sensación ni movimiento en mi brazo derecho durante más de un año, pero he comenzado a recuperar la sensación y ahora también puedo mover mis dedos una cantidad muy pequeña. Espero que me recupere, pero llevará mucho tiempo. ¡Espero que disfrutes de algunos de mis otros videos! Mis mejores deseos, Leo
@@Hand-i-Craft Me alegro Leo que ya mueva algo los dedos, ese es el mejor síntoma pues prueba que el nervio no se seccionó (o no totalmente); y es cuestión de tiempo entonces. Mucho ánimo. Jesús
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Really helpful thank you. I’ve just bought one and thought it wasn’t as good as I’d thought because I’d done the same thing 😂. Why do you put the lubricating wax on please? And do I just look for lubricating wax or should it be a special one
Hello Mary, thanks for the message. You’d be amazed how many folk have got in touch about the riving knife adjustment! 😀 The lubricating wax is great as it makes the worktop lovely and smooth and provides a protective coat prolonging the life of the machine. You can also use it on other power tool surfaces like a band saw top for example. I wouldn’t use just any lubricant as some of them may soak into the wood your cutting. Liberon is the one I use, it’s not the cheapest, but you only need really small amounts so it’ll last for years. I think I left a link in the description if you want to check out the price. Best wishes, Leo 😀
Thank you so much Leo. Your videos are so helpful for me as an older female newbie. Seeing how you tackle problems gives me insights into how I can tackle the difficulties I come across.
Hi just set mine up and the guard will not lift up out of the way like yours. It’s just falls to deck top any ideas tks
The riving knife guard behind the blade is secured by a bolt underneath the orange plate. If you lift up the orange plate, lift up the adjustable riving knife and tighten the bolt it should be 👍 👍
Hi Leo, thanks for the informative video. I had a question on the wobble fix though. I tried to replicate your fix with duct tape (3 layers) but can't get it stable. Would you mind sharing what type of duct tape you have used?
Cheers for the message pal. Tbh I just used Gorilla duct tape and it worked fine. There is a possibility the mitre slots on your model if newer might be ever so slightly different. If you decide to go down the route of a cross cut sled like many folk do, I certainly recommend picking up some of these from Stu’s Etsy store. The mitre slots are not a standard fit so you can’t simply pick some after market mitre bars from any outlet, but Stu’s are made specifically for Evolution models 👍. www.etsy.com/uk/listing/1040934475/evolution-rage-5s-table-saw-mitre-bars?ref=shop_home_recs_15
Thanks.. expecting one to be delivered tomorrow. Good to know.
Nice one Conor, hope it works out well for you. Great piece of kit😀. Best wishes, Leo
Great video very helpful to me i to had problems with riving knife
Thanks Ken, much appreciated. I think plenty folk had the same problem so hopefully this video has helped in a little way. Best wishes, Leo 😀
Nice wee vid. Did you get a dust bag with it ? As I did not for the sake off £9 need to get one before I use .?????
Cheers John. I didn’t get a dust bag with it. The hose that is connected to the blade guard goes down to a connector that is designed for a dust / chip extractor. If I’m being brutally honest, to paraphrase a well known term, a dust bag would be like weeing in the wind so to speak😀
Thanks tout from France 👍
De rein Yves 😀😀
Looks like my shed! 😂
That’s after I’d had a tidy 😂😂😂
@@Hand-i-Craft Hahaha. Just want to thank you for the video, I found it very useful.
Hi great video, just ordered mine and have to wait till weekend for it. Question! why the wax oil on the plate after you finished with it. Keep up great work
Cheers Nudger. The wax is a good idea for any power tool with a surface as it reduces friction, thus prolonging the life of the tool and less friction means less stress on the blade. Obviously there are different brands so might be worth checking out prices. Liberon isn’t the cheapest but it lasts for years😀😀👍
Just put mine together, the rip fence is in 2 parts you need the other piece as well which will give you the extra space.
There is an ancillary section to the fence Ima. From my perspective it depends what you’re ripping. If you’re ripping sheet goods that is square then the main fence is fine. If however you are ripping timber with natural variance, then the ancillary fence is recommended as it gives a bit more ‘breathing’ space behind the blade.
very good video, helps to be some rage`s be perfect.
Cheers for the comment, much appreciated 😀😀👍👍
Hi Leo I finally got one of these following your review but the blade is not square to the table as yours was. Any idea how I can adjust this mate? The instructions do not cover this. I have shunted the blade into position but I can still see a gap at the bottom of the blade but not at the top. Thanks!
Alright Neil. Sorry to hear it isn’t set up right for you. If you send me an email to 75handicraft@gmail.com I can send you a picture for the bit that might be able to help you. Cheers, Leo
I struggled with this as well.
The saw blade mount is not the securest of things.
If you loosen the the two hex nuts behind the blade to the back of the table there is just enough play to square it with the mitre slots
You'll obviously have to reset the fence to the blade but this made a world of difference to my rip cuts
My rage 5s is arriving Tuesday 😁
Excellent Mark, hope it works out well for you😀👍
Your saw seems a more rugged build than James's one, evident on the wings & fence as well as sliding table
Can’t really comment John as haven’t used the slightly older model. I will say Evolution are good at taking customer feedback on board so maybe they’ve made some adaptations to improve it? The blade guard certainly is a big improvement on James’ model
Hi thanks for the tip on the riving knife. Did you take it all the way up? Ive just purchased a Perspex one from evolution to replace the black original because I could not feel comfortable working with that one. Cheers John
PBFPartnership Cheers John for the message. Can I just ask why you’ve gone for a Perspex one? Is it to improve visibility when cutting? In regards to my use and the riving knife, yeah I pretty much have it in its highest setting. Two reasons really, firstly I’m one of probably a handful of folk who keeps the blade guard on so having the riving knife high improves visibility. Secondly I’ve just released a short video on how I change the blade just using the one hand. Having the riving knife high allows me to change the blade easier. It’d be easier to watch than for me to explain so if you have a spare few minutes you might want to have a butchers. Cheers, Leo 😀
@@Hand-i-Craft Leo, after using a Wickes table saw with a Perspex blade guard for donkeys years and being able to see the work progressing through the blade I just did not feel comfortable not being able to see the work. The Evo saw is a great piece of kit. Keep up your videos. they are very entertaining. Will watch your other video in the morning, its dog walking time now. cheers John
I'm assuming you've realised you need to lift the riving knife for clearance now?
I did eventually 👍👍😂😂. If you look at some of the comments it appears it wasn’t only me🤷♂️🤷♂️😳😳😂😂
@@Hand-i-Craft yeah. I watched 86 cups later after posting.
The video detailing building the stand shows lifting the knife before use.
My 305mm ts is buried in the lockup. Just grabbed one of these for the van to save me digging it out
Thank you. This is a pro review.
Thank you Luis for you me kind comment 😀👍
Hi can ypu say wjat size the miter slot is in width please
To see if my incra will fit it .
I’m sorry I can’t as I’ve sold it now. I do remember it has non standardised sizes, I think the answer may be somewhere in the comments section here 👍👍
Love your problem solving skills. A couple of pints later. 🤪
Cheers Dave, I'll drink to that😀
I love this video! I'm in the market for one and would prefer not to push to the Dw745 because I've only got a one off hit of about 600 squirrelled away to spend.
Are you happy with the multi purpose blade for woodwork or are you thinking of getting a dedicated wood blade?
Sawdust and Survival Morning Sawdust, it depends on the finish of cut you want really. The multipurpose blade cuts wood fine, but the finish on the cut isn’t fantastic. If your budget could stretch to getting the specific wood blade then yes I’d go for that as well. Just had a look on Amazon in the UK and the saw is on for £249.99 and with the extra blade it’s £282. I’m really happy with it, I’ve got a couple of videos coming out soon where I use it constantly through the projects. The more I use it the happier I am with the fact I bought it, particularly if you’re stepping up from something like a Workzone or Parkside table saw
To be fair I've not got a table saw at the moment! I keep getting people saying to get the DeWalt but with a stand it's double the price. Can't decide if Il should blow it all on the saw or I could get this, a thickness planer and a router.
Sawdust and Survival Understand where you’re coming from here pal. There are lots of makers on RUclips who use the Dewalt and I’ve no doubt it is an excellent machine, but option B you have would allow you to do lots more different woodworking techniques. I know what I’d do if I had your quandary, but ultimately it’s your call😀
I've just pulled the trigger on the Aldi thicknesser planer. I felt that was more urgent than the table saw because I've got a workbench project ongoing that I can hopefully joint the table top with. Excited!
And as for the table saw, I think you've settled it for me. If the Rage5s is good enough for you, it's certainly good enough for me. Thanks for the advice!
Hi,
What is the additional fence faceplate for?
Alright Shaun, cheers for the message. My understanding is it is for when you are ripping natural wood materials, and not sheet goods like MDF, Plywood, OSB etc. With natural woods there can be a slight discrepancy in width so the additional fence plate goes up to the blade but allows a ‘breathing space’ beyond the blade so it can’t pinch between the fence and blade potentially causing kick back. Hope this makes sense, cheers, Leo 😀
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Great,
Thanks for the reply 👍
Hi, great video! Could you tell me what type of tape you used on the bottom of the mitre gauge?
Sam Lamb Morning Sam. I just used Gorilla tape as it was what I had to hand, but any kind of decent duct tape would do. Cheers for the feedback 😀
@@Hand-i-Craft thanks - I tried the tape and it worked perfectly. Genius!
Sam Lamb 😀👍
Nice vid and very interesting - the Evolution R255PTS 255mm is available at Screwfix at a £50 discount - is it an updated model to this?
Hello nerervarine, cheers for the message. I know due to the manufacturing industry closing down in China for a few months because of the Covid situation, basically once the back stock of Rage 5-S’s sold there are no more. Folk having been waiting months for them (globally not just UK). To appease potential buyers Evolution have brought out a saw that appears to have most of the features of the Rage 5-S, but is cheaper. I haven’t seen the specs of the new one, so if you do a little homework and if what I’ve said turns out to be true then your in for a bargain! I can imagine Rage5-S owners who’ve been paying full retail of over £330 will not be best pleased though 🤷♂️
@@Hand-i-Craft £200 until 3/01/2021 - I will check and do a comparison of features. Thanks
nerervarine Nice one. If you don’t mind, could you let me know how you get on? Be interested to hear about it. Cheers, Leo
Bought mine from Screwfix a couple of days ago. So far the differences I've found are - Only the right side of the table extends. Also there's no dust extraction hose supplied, which is a bit of a pain. Other than that the body of the saw is orange not black - as if that mattered. That seems to be the only difference.
Hi there buddy where did you get the push block from
Hello Rash, cheers for the message. The big yellow push block thing is called a grr-ripper and I bought it from Rutlands when they had it on offer, but they are widely available I think. It was quite expensive, not 100% sure but I think similar looking products are available on the sites that do direct delivery from China at a cheaper price. Hope this helps👍👍
@@Hand-i-Craft your a star
I'm in two minds to get this table saw .I'm using a workzone one at the moment... So I'm rewatching your video .. would you still recommend it
Hello pal, how’s it going? 😀 It’d definitely be a step up from your Workzone saw, great solid fence, portability is excellent, extension arms are great, I even like the panel saw style movement on the top. At the time when I bought it it was £230 (pre covid) and I described it as the best value for money saw at that price, nothing comes close to it and I still stand by that. Biggest downsides are noise and dust extraction. It is very noisy, no problem with the ear defenders on but need to be mindful of neighbours etc when using it. Dust extraction, even with the vac hooked up, is awful. Not a problem if you’re mainly using it outside (as I was until I built the workshop), but inside it really shows how bad it is. I guess it boils down to what your needs are for a table saw and what downsides you’re prepared to live with. Even if you went one level up and bought the likes of the Dewalt, you’d get better dust extraction, but it’s still noisy as hell.
The other reason I’m stepping away from it is the one handed thing. I’ve never had a scare or accident, but for some reason I’m feeling less confident. Looking at alternatives pal. Hope this helps and let me know what you decide to do 👍👍
@@Hand-i-Craft thank you brother... I saw casual DIY put a start up module on his to soften the start up...
I had an old draper and it scared the life out of me... Sparks and fire work show every start-up lol...
I might look at the 40v battery ones...
Thanks again, and keep inspiring us all with your excellent videos mate
I was on the verge of sending mine back after ripping some 3x2 and feeling it pinch... I'll try the fence alignment your way and see how I get on cos otherwise I have been impressed with the saw so far. How are you getting on with it?
KevGW83 Cheers Kev. I love it tbh, it was a massive step up in terms of quality from my old Workzone table saw. Best features for me are the extending arms, sliding table and the fence which is rock solid. Hopefully you can sort the fence issue out. Someone else suggested lining it up against the insert plate line as that will always be square to the blade🤷♂️. Maybe worth trying. Best wishes, Leo
@@Hand-i-Craft it's my first table saw so always learning. I take it I lign the fence up parrelel with bolts on top of the fence loosened then once parallel lock the fence and tighten the bolts?
Yeah that’s pretty much it pal, might take a bit of tinkering but you’ll get there. Let me know how you get on with it😀
I've just bought this saw, been having a play with it today but my cuts dont seem clean, if I put my cut piece back against the fence or a straight edge I can see that it looks slightly wavy, do you have any suggestions as to why this could be happening, i'm hoping that its just the blade that could be slightly warped
Alright Liam, agree with you it’s a possibility the blade could be slightly warped. Also have you tried holding the blade to see if there is any slight sideways ‘wobble’ to check the blade is secured correctly to the arbor? Also maybe check the riving knife is correctly in line with the blade and isn’t diverting the wood slightly off course so to speak. Apologies I can’t be any more help, Evolution customer services are excellent though if you get in touch with them, or alternatively return it and get a replacement? Let me know how you get on? Cheers, Leo
Great video. Where are you storing the blade cover, when the unit is folded away? Im worried that if i leave it fitted to the riving knife, and being plastic that it may snap or crack easy when moving the unit around. Thanks
Thanks Phillip for the kind comments. I know what you’re saying about the blade guard. I’m quite lucky that the saw fits in neatly down the middle part of my garage workshop so it’s less likely to bang against anything when I put it away at night. I do lower the blade down though to its lowest setting to lessen it sticking out. How are you finding the saw btw?
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Im really impressed with it! I am going to re organise my garage around it. Making a table/workstation first.
Hello, I like the video. I am curious to know if this machine can use a dado blade and if it comes with a dado insert?
Hello Kennedy, thanks for the message. I’ve been asked this a couple of times before. My honest answer is I don’t know, but I’d be inclined to say no. The arbour on it is very slim and would struggle to take a dado blade. Also one of my subscribers pointed out that here in the UK safety regulations don’t allow dado blades as it means you have to remove some key safety equipment to use them. You do see UK makers on RUclips using dado blades though as it is their choice in regards to safety, but I’ve not seen anyone to my knowledge using one on this saw. I know evolution don’t make a dado blade for their saws. Hope this is of some help, best wishes, Leo 😀