I had one of these for 2 months as a courtesy bike after an accident last year and was very impressed with it, nice power throughout the rev range, comfortable and looks good for a pillion. When you did the walk around I had a smile. I would have one for sure if I had the money. Great review of what I considered a great bike :)
Definitely rode the first time in a very long time at a Honda training centre in Melbourne. Witches hats, emergency breaking. Highest mortality rate is amongst mature age riders who haven't ridden for a long time and hopping on a large capacity bike. Good to do a refresher coarse - these people are very good.
Had mine almost a year and done over 8k miles on it and for my first big bike it's amazing, it may not be the fastest in that engine bracket but it's handling and stability are what make it dream to ride for me as a relatively new rider
Another excellent bike for someone who is just getting into motorcycling or returning to motorcycling. These midsize bikes inspire confidence and they have enough horsepower and are comfortable enough to commute to work or do an all day ride on. Another reason to own one is the cost - they are affordable for most people. By the way, I am still recovering from my health issue - got another 8 weeks to go - and your videos help pass the time. Looking forward to your reviews on the Kawasaki and Triumph.
Good review as always.....lets face it, 650cc 90bhp, more than enough for todays roads, my 18yr old 750f Suzi only has that and I can't use most of that without loosing my ticket or life....modern bikes,smooth, quick, brakes, reliability, usable, put the key in and ride, massive choice, it's a good time to ride these days! Keep up the good work son!
I´m getting myself my own 2018 version of this bike tomorrow and your video just reminded me how stoked i am to ride it! Really really apreciate such a calm video.
I’m glad you done this review. I don’t think many people are aware of the raft of changes for the 2017 model so well done on pointing it out. Lots of small changes that made a big difference! Only thing it’s lacking is a gear position indicator imo. The CB650F is my first big bike and I think it was and great choice. Very easy to ride and forgiving but still has plenty of poke. As many of its rivals are now twins (SV, MT07,Z650) the 4cyl engine still has the upper hand.
Hi Flyer, well priced for a Honda 4 cylinder. The 600 engine was bullet proof, this has same bore with longer stroke and detuned should last ages! Come on Honda l'm a "Hornet" not a number, let's give more bikes names 👍
So glad you have reviewed this bike as I own the previous model CBF600N8 and I've ridden this new version from HGB in Ruislip Manor, and I agree with everything you've said 😁👍. So now I know I can trust your reviews 😂 ! Last year I hacked it back on the motorway from Seville to Santander on day one (600 miles) and then on day two to Hertfordshire (800 miles) at a steady 85mph with no aches or pains, and of course it never missed a beat. 59,000 miles, never a problem and still going strong - it's a Honda!
TheMissendenFlyer . No, I rode their black CBR650F, because as you say they're the same other than the raised clip-ons and the fairing. I found out that I am now too old for clip-ons and the screen is ineffectual. I was also surprised that the extra 15 bhp and 50cc from my version made no discernible difference, which I assume is mainly down to Euro4 compliance.
Great vid I am seriously considering one of these for my daily commute to work. I think it’s probably the only four cylinder bike that is left in this class now
I think you're right about that. There aren't too many 4-cyl 600 class bikes on the market. That was one of the primary reasons I had no problem paying more for the CB650F over the 2-cyl options from other manufacturers. Get a CB; you won't be disappointed.
The CB650F isn't heavy at all. It's not lightweight like a CBR600RR, but it's perfectly easy to handle it at both high and low speeds. Gear indicator can be added on aftermarket if you really want one. I agree they are handy to have but I've been riding fine without one.
I have a 2016 model. Took it to The Bol D'or soon after i bought it. Back through France, Germany, Luxembourg and Belgium. Economical with a great tank range and a reasonable amount of power. Use it every day to commute work. A great little bike imho.
I bought one of these when I passed my test, great bike to start on couldn't fault it at all really, I'm a massive sports bike fan so the cb650f ended up being swapped for a fireblade which is a lot more exciting all round.
Judging from the video, this bike appears really well designed. Purposeful and refined. More so to me than the twin cylinder MT-07. Great impression review of what appears to be a very sensible bike. Thank you, TMF for bringing us this one!
Just bought a 2018 reg and she’s gorgeous as soon as I saw her I fell in love , thank you for the video as your the only one on RUclips that’s done a decent job of a review for it 😊
I've had the US version (2018 model) since last October. It's a very nice bike if you want something usable in pretty much any sitaution. My take on the CB650F is this: Weight: Feels right. It is balanced well. The CG is low making it stable. It doesn't feel heavy at low speeds either; very manueverable in parking lots. Easy to walk it around if you need to park it somewhere tight. Handling: Surprisingly good for a bike that's billed as a commuter / general purpose. Comparing it to a supersport is pretty dumb, so people who do that don't ride and/or don't know what they're talking about. In its class, it's one of the best. Appearance: I love the looks. The headers are very distinct and the overall styling is great without being over-the-top in any way. You could probably shed a few lbs by swapping the exhaust, but there are no aftermarket exhausts that look as good as stock. Only change I made was a tail tidy. Controls: All work fine. I swaped the levers to adustable ones. One complaint is the turn signal on mine gets stuck sometimes when trying to activate it. Fuel: I got about 38 MPG average, and after adding a windscreen, 40 MPG. I highly recommend a windscreen, it improves comfort at high speeds. Comfort: As for riding position, very good and non-fatiguing. No complaints. The seat is uncomfortable and should be replaced with something better, or re-padded. After about an hour of riding my back starts to hurt...fortunately the seat is easy to swap. Overall: I wanted a 4-cyl with about 100 HP, and I wanted one with a purpose-built swingarm rather than tubular steel junk (matters more than most think). I didn't want a liter bike or a sportbike because I wanted to be comfortable riding around. The CB650F was 95% what I wanted and I got a good deal on it. Yes, it has a hydroformed aluminum swingarm which you'd find on any high performance bike. It seems to be rare; I've yet to see another rider on a CB650F and I've seen many riders. Great bike for anyone, whether you're just getting started or are a seasoned rider looking for something with more utility than a sportbike and just about as much fun.
Before this bike, Honda were making the 102BHP Hornet 600 which was very very fast as well as the detuned and 76hp CBF600 which is still quite fast and very comfortable on a motorway or a fast road. They discontinued both these bikes in 2014 and then brought out the CB650f which is about halfway between the two bikes in almost every way and spec. Makes sense because the Hornet was overkill and the CBF600 (which I have) is bland in style and unpopular as a model in general. Nice review, might even get one in a year or two.
TMF - You continue to pump out engaging, comprehensive reviews that give off a warm friendly vibe. So thank you for that sir! I want to add - My opinion of Honda motorcycles is fairly conflicted. I've only ever had the privilege of riding one motorcycle: My friend loaned me his 2012 Honda CBR250R for a summer a couple years ago, I learned how to ride it within 5-10 minutes I was on the road able to proceed from a stop at a stop sign on a steep incline, I consider(ed) myself a natural but maybe Hondas are just that user friendly? Anyway, at this time I'm not a proud owner of a motorcycle of any kind but I rode that CBR non stop that summer and I (cautiously) consider myself a fairly adept rider and fairly, if I'm honest, a theoretical nerd when it comes to the industry and all its offspring. Honda confuses me though, I am drawn to the quality of materials, excellence of build, design purity (of some) and burnished reputation for bullet proof reliability yet it seems they constantly lag behind the competition performance wise as well as market progression.. i.e. Honda probably won't pursue the 400cc 'beginner class' engine size any time soon and if they do chances are it will be outgun or matched, performance wise by the presumably-obsolete-by-then Yamaha YZF-R3. It's as if Honda assumes it's customer base and potential customer base doesn't want to see Honda engage in any performance wars. Perhaps for the sake of reliability? Safety? I don't know. Surely Honda has the capability to meet or exceed competitions performance benchmarks, why not go for it? Rant over, thanks TMF look forward to more reviews and first impressions! Cheers
The last time I was on a CB650F I was doing 3 days of training followed by my mod1 and mod2 tests. They had been a bit ragged but they are easy to ride and make a great first bike, training bike and commuter bike. For me though a bit on the dull side against other options on the market.
Lovely bike. Nice and light. Simple. Little screen for touring. Perfect. Ideal do everything bike. Probably even better down light trails than some of the bid adventure stuff. Like it a lot and great noise too.
Great review - thanks. Picked mine up from the dealer yesterday and very pleased with it. I had the NC750S but that gave no grin factor, where as this one does. Looked at several in this category but plumbed for this due to personal preference. Now to get some miles covered 😃. Cheers for the review.
I really like inline fours and the Honda 650F. A real quality piece. I do wish it had belt drive. You mentioned the “white van” issue in London traffic. Here in Florida, near Tampa, it seems that every fourth vehicle is a pickup truck pulling a trailer with lawn equipment. Thanks again. Ride safe.
I've just bought one of these after passing my test yesterday - I was going for the Street Triple R but after speaking to your friends at Principal Insurance (where I dropped your name of course) and having a good laugh at the quotations (£2000 plus) I decided I should opt for something a little more insurance friendly for the first proper bike. It was either this or the Suzuki SV650 but after watching your review on this one, and checking out the resaleability of both, the Honda certainly holds its value better. Thank you for all the time and effort you put into the videos they make for great watching!
Great review TMF. I had the Hornet as my first big bike which was mostly used for commuting, and it really was a quality bike, never let me down, like yourself not sure about headlights transformer looks but for a new rider sure you can't go wrong with this in your garage.
Hey TMF, I owned the CB650F for two years from 2015 when it was first launched before changing to the Triumph T120. I can say after two years of ownership it was a cracking bike, super reliable, usual excellent build quality from Honda and a great commuter but most of all it was masses of fun. Once I'd got rid of the awful stock tyres and fitted Pirelli's plus a tail-tidy Saturday rides out with my mates were a hoot. They all had Street Triples but my Honda kept up without any problem Cornering was excellent and lovely creamy power delivery. She stood up to two winters of daily commuting 50+ miles and I got a very good price at the trade-in. Thanks again for a great review.
Paul what tyres do you recommend for someone getting this bike in a few weeks? UK ish climate here in Denmark, i like going fastish in the corners and not dying in the rain... !
Hi HappyOwl, I had Pirelli's fitted (the stock tyres were awful) and they really sorted the bike out. I rode it through a whole summer & winter (UK temperate climate) with no issues and great road handling. Best of luck.
Great review, I've ridden this bike in London and loved it, so much fun. TMF, looking forward to the CB1000R Neo café racer... when it's out that is. I'll be looking for that review👍
Brilliant review once again TMF :) lovely engine noise when you parked it up to do the walkaround, it's got a lovely deep rumble about it. Those front brakes are bigger than on my Versys 1k!ahah
A really good looking bike! Like that a lot! As ever, great review! There are so many good bikes and I think almost anything will be great, so it really is down to the smaller things that are personal taste in these things, like aesthetics.
It's funny, but with all the twins and triples around these days, it's still the in-line fours you hear missing gears in the bypass on a Sunday morning. Long may it continue.
Nodded off for a few seconds and then woke up with a jump, just as that Nissan Note started to wander. I thought he was going have us both off the bike! Lol.
I have CB500F 2017 year,i hope the next big bike is cb650f 2018! Because both bikes is so beautifull and so power,cb500f is so easy to driving,nice sound engine and i hope my future bike cb650f is better than cb500f :)
I am looking to move from my gsx1250fa to a smaller bike more suited to my commuting needs. I tried a honda cb500 but found the difference a bit too much, but noticed this in their showroom. I intend having a test ride next week and am doing a bit of research and found your video most helpful, Thanks
I think it might be a great last big bike too... The only other 4 cylinder bike I had was a HONDA Pan European ST1300 which had an amazing V4 engine. At 208 kg wet (Triumph always give dry weights remember) it is worth having that weight to have a 4 cylinder....
hi Mr Flyer. recently did ie mid March, a 1700 mile tour of northern Spain on a 2015 model of this bike covering from 180 to 350 miles per day. bike was not tiring to ride over long distances and I could achieve just about 200 to a tank, depending on roads and riding style. also as I am just about 5ft 7 with 30 inseam its one of the few bikes I feel comfortable on, as always great and informative vid
In your opinion: Is there a significant difference between them? I am searching for a used one and the 2017 models are 800€ - 1000€ more expensive than the 2014 models. I am trying to find out , if the update is worth the money. I could only test ride the 2014 model. Really liked it.
I test rode one of the older ones 2 years ago before I bought a Street Triple. I remember it being boring. Now that my Triumph has been stolen I tried the newer CB650 today. It's improved a lot! I think the biggest disappointment last time was the noise, this year's version though sounds like a proper inline 4! If I buy it I suspect I will use a lot of fuel.
I've been riding the cbf125 I'm doing my bike test soon. Wanting the same sort of bike but faster. I loved how quiet this was in the review, also the same shape as my loved cbf125. Looks like this will be my next step into the biking world. Thanks
Another great review. Any chance of you getting hold of a CCM? I love the fact that you review the full range of bikes in various CC's. I would love to see a review if the CCM GP 450 Adventure as well as the Spitfire models (although I believe they are like hens teeth).
Nice review TMF! I learnt to ride on a 2003 plate bandit 600S and then owned a 2000 plate Bandit 600 for a year and a half. I can confirm that this bike rides like a dream in comparison. It felt like a modern bandit to ride, but one that *felt* lighter at lower speeds (it isn't), started on cold mornings and hadn't been dropped 650 times. There are a few negative...ish reviews about it online (e.g. buzzy engine, naff LCD screen, BHP is alledgedly quite a bit less than 90). What I would add is that if you had learnt on a bike like the old bandit, then you might not even notice any of these points. You might just love it. I didn't read any reviews until after my test rides and was quite surprised!
I had the 2015 Tri-colour CB650FAE for about 18 months before upgrading to my MT10. The CB is a lovely bike for day to day and if you don't mind ringing it's neck you can have a fun weekend blast too. I removed the stock exhaust for a full de-cat system and it was very loud... always got heads turning. A little screen goes a long way for wind removal and also makes it look better. I'd recommend one for a first "big bike".
I just took delivery of a 2018 matt black cbr 650f. My first big bike. Maybe because its new but im finding it buzzy on the hands and the seat. I does need to be revved to get the most from the engine but a very comfortable and well made bike
I had a yellow Hornet all those years ago..............considered a big bike then..................600cc bikes these days are "just" mid-sized..........how things change! Great review yet again.
You mentioned that the CB650F was an A2 bike in the clip and this is true, provided you apply a restriction accessory kit that cuts the power in half! The standard 90 bhp bike is full (i.e. A) licence stuff. For the avoidance of doubt, the A2 criteria after passing the test is: No more than 35kW (47bhp) and a power-to-weight ratio of no more than 0.2kW/0.26bhp per kg with a MINIMUM weight of 175kg to stop say the lightweight 250s busting a hole through the legislation. I understand the old 650F couldn't be restricted but helpfully, this one officially can.
Kevin: my reading of the regs is that the 175 kg minimum weight applies only to bikes at the maximum 35 kW power output, and not to all A2 bikes: 35/175=0.2. Bikes making less power can be lighter. Take the KTM Duke 390, 149 kgs dry, about 165 wet, with 32 kW gives a fraction under 0.2 kW/kg.
Hi Christopher: Yes I understand that's correct so if you want to ride a bike using the full 47 bhp then it will need to come in with a minimum kerb weight of 175 kg. And the other side of the coin therefore is that some lightweight bikes with less than 47bhp are not A2 legal. Going back to the Honda, I wonder what a restricted CB650F feels like in practice?
Great review as always. I was wondering: you compare the Honda with your street triple. What do you drive when you pick up a bike for a review? Is it the street triple when you pick up a naked and the panigali when picking up a sports bike? I could imagine you would like to freshen up your mind when starting a review.
A nice practical lightweight machine for everyday use, with enough power for some out of town weekend fun. A fair new price and being a Honda you know the finish will probably outlast the lesser quality brands. I agree that it would look better with a round headlight and what is the purpose of those ugly black things attached to each side of the tank? The relatively minimal electronic package means it should help hold its second-hand value too, as when they go wrong they are often difficult to diagnose and expensive to replace. Many modern bikes are scrapped when they go beyond economic repair. I think Honda is on to a winner here, as a kind of slightly upmarket, ever popular, Suzuki Bandit. Another a great review.
I have the 2016 model and have covered just under 3k from new in all weather and it's a dream for the daily commute, the suspension could be a little better but this is a great bike and very forgiving
Another great review..I am a Honda fan and I love 4 cylinder bikes BUT this is hugely dull looking..does nothing for me but am sure it's a lovely bike.
It will be nice if they update it again with a gear indicator. For the price you're paying it would be a nice thing to have, I would consider this bike or even the GSXS-750 but this is more practical with a large tank too.
I just spent the day on one of these practising for my mod 1. Great bike with a nice chunky feel. Plenty of power, however the 2015 one I had vibrated like a mother. First thing I did when I got on there was toot the horn because it's swapped with the indicators, then the first thing I did when I got back on my KTM was toot the horn again!
I was surprised how much I liked Joy and Martin's little Hornet hire bike. Loads of fun at more sane speeds. The exhausts on this remind me of the old Honda 400 four. Think the main disappointment is the sound this and most of the other Euro 4 machines make #sewingmachine
Would you please say whether this inline 4 engine is too high revving to make it a practical bike for stop and go urban commuting? Thanks for your informative and down-to-earth approach to discussing motorcycles.
I've heard you mention not owning an in-line 4 a few times in your reviews. I'm expecting a comments kicking for this but from my experience I'd say don't buy one to add to your twins/triple stable unless it's for track days. I've owned just one; a Yamaha FZ1n which I had at the same time as an MT03 single and a Street Triple about 8-10 years ago. After the initial buzz of riding the new FZ I found I would always end up taking out the MT despite the woeful power comparison on paper or the Street Triple. I just found the in-line 4 engine too bland compared to the other two engines and from 0-60 there really wasn't much between them in acceleration either. We all know the 4s have all their power hiding so far up the rev range that you have to be in a certain type of mood (read 'risk losing yer license mood') to really get the most out of them.....even when they've been re-tuned as most of the nakeds have been. Singles, twins and triples (and V4s like my lovely old duffer of a VFR800 pre-vtech thingy) on the other hand; masses of torque right where you want it for the street. Perfect.
Great review as usual TMF. Any chance of a review on the Kawasexy Z650/ER6-n? Would like to see your opinion on it. I think this sector of bikes is extremely popular (and always will be) purely because its ''the first big bike'' zone. Ride safe mate!
Hey TMF, have you considered a different route from Ruislip. Try Breakspear Road to Harefield and then either turn left onto the High Street followed by Church Hill and then onwards to Denham or turn right into Rickmansworth Road and head back that way. If your going through the High Street, give me a wave. Keep up the good work. Smiffy
I learnt to ride on a CB650R which I believe is the replacement for the CB650F in this video. I loved it and believe most of the comparisons between the two are identical, including the engine. I notice that the CB650F are available for quite a lot less than the CB650R and as such, I've taken some interest in getting one. Is there much of a difference between the two? Does it have ABS, traction control and a gear indicator?
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Nice review! I know that is quite a different category... but how is the difference with the duke390? It feels less torque at low rpm? Hello from Vietnam!
Yeap, I am agree with your... Currently I ride a duke390. And I could say that is enough for me at the moment... The acceleration is 5,50s from 0-100km/h, later is slower. The torque is in the meddium, like monster 821 but in scale. I didn't try the Z650, but I think the change is very small, with worse softer suspension and more weight. I think I will stay wiht a duke390 and if I need to change I will do with a z800 or monster 821 which is much more expensive here. Ride safe!
Nice vid MrF and what a lovely day for a ride. Totally agree with your conclusion, great bike for younger riders and commuters. Bit less intimidating than the Street Triple I’d imagine. And a 4 cylinder is definitely lovely to ride. You haven’t tried the Aprilia V-4 Tuono yet, right? That may be interesting!
TheMissendenFlyer ok....I’ll write a snotty letter to Aprilia UK and ask them why they they don’t let motovloggers test their bikes. Might sell a few more! I’ll let you know what the reply is! 😉
...actually that's not actually the case, I know "Lamb Chop Rides" has borrowed a couple in the past so it must be possible....I just need to get off my backside and write to the right man....
TheMissendenFlyer you’d have to find the right dealer who keeps enough bikes in stock.....not all of them do it seems......try LambChops dealer.....look forward to it and good luck! 👍.
Another great review, Thank you. May I ask you for your advice, I am about to get my first big bike and am looking at both the Honda CB650f and the Suzuki SV650. They are different in looks and obviously one an inline four the other a V-twin. Which one would you get if you were in my position thinking you would be doing this as I am just after having completed my DAS. Please can you let me know. Thanks
I love both those bikes (I have an SV650 in the garage at the moment!) - personally I like the idea of having a 4 cylinder bike, so the Honda wins on rideability and noise, the Suzuki wins on looks....tough one eh? You won't be disappointed with either by the way...
Thank you for your reply. Personally I prefer the round headlamp of the sv 650 and that it has a gear indicator for looks but I can understand your thoughts on an in line 4. Are you going to publish a review on the SV650 and if so when do you think you may do this. Please can you let me know.
Love the microfone on the video when you riding the motorcycle any chance you can share it us about it... Im new in the motorcycling so sorry if its strange questions....
I rode both the cb650f and the CBR650F. Ended up buying the cbr prefer the riding position of the faired version. Really don’t think you need more power it has enough to overtake and to have fun without being stupid.
Now its even harder to choose which one to buy. Mt07, sv650, z650, or cb650f. Beginner rider here just looking for an upgrade this year. 95% will be using the bike for commute., in town lots of traffic and stop light. Minimal highway/freeway ride. Please advice.
Nice bike,a great budget all rounder. Exhaust looks good but leaves no room for a centre stand. That was a lot of traffic, do you ride defensively at junctions? I worry about cars pulling out. I also go very slow down the outside of traffic, never trust them not to do a u turn. Ride safe.
I had one of these for 2 months as a courtesy bike after an accident last year and was very impressed with it, nice power throughout the rev range, comfortable and looks good for a pillion. When you did the walk around I had a smile. I would have one for sure if I had the money. Great review of what I considered a great bike :)
Definitely rode the first time in a very long time at a Honda training centre in Melbourne. Witches hats, emergency breaking. Highest mortality rate is amongst mature age riders who haven't ridden for a long time and hopping on a large capacity bike. Good to do a refresher coarse - these people are very good.
Had mine almost a year and done over 8k miles on it and for my first big bike it's amazing, it may not be the fastest in that engine bracket but it's handling and stability are what make it dream to ride for me as a relatively new rider
amongst the Japanese manufacturers atleast, this is the fastest in the 650 class.
Another excellent bike for someone who is just getting into motorcycling or returning to motorcycling. These midsize bikes inspire confidence and they have enough horsepower and are comfortable enough to commute to work or do an all day ride on. Another reason to own one is the cost - they are affordable for most people. By the way, I am still recovering from my health issue - got another 8 weeks to go - and your videos help pass the time. Looking forward to your reviews on the Kawasaki and Triumph.
Hope you get back up on your feet soon Ray - all the best - TMF
Good review as always.....lets face it, 650cc 90bhp, more than enough for todays roads, my 18yr old 750f Suzi only has that and I can't use most of that without loosing my ticket or life....modern bikes,smooth, quick, brakes, reliability, usable, put the key in and ride, massive choice, it's a good time to ride these days! Keep up the good work son!
I´m getting myself my own 2018 version of this bike tomorrow and your video just reminded me how stoked i am to ride it! Really really apreciate such a calm video.
Brilliant- enjoy!
@@TheMissendenFlyer Rode it for about 100km today. Great great experience! Gonna hope for nice weather next week :D
I’m glad you done this review. I don’t think many people are aware of the raft of changes for the 2017 model so well done on pointing it out. Lots of small changes that made a big difference! Only thing it’s lacking is a gear position indicator imo. The CB650F is my first big bike and I think it was and great choice. Very easy to ride and forgiving but still has plenty of poke. As many of its rivals are now twins (SV, MT07,Z650) the 4cyl engine still has the upper hand.
Yes I tend to agree - although I have the SV650 at the moment and I have to say it has a cracking twin engine....
Hi Flyer, well priced for a Honda 4 cylinder. The 600 engine was bullet proof, this has same bore with longer stroke and detuned should last ages! Come on Honda l'm a "Hornet" not a number, let's give more bikes names 👍
I agree!
So glad you have reviewed this bike as I own the previous model CBF600N8 and I've ridden this new version from HGB in Ruislip Manor, and I agree with everything you've said 😁👍. So now I know I can trust your reviews 😂 !
Last year I hacked it back on the motorway from Seville to Santander on day one (600 miles) and then on day two to Hertfordshire (800 miles) at a steady 85mph with no aches or pains, and of course it never missed a beat. 59,000 miles, never a problem and still going strong - it's a Honda!
Wow, that's quite a ride!! I wonder if this was the same bike you rode from HGB??
TheMissendenFlyer . No, I rode their black CBR650F, because as you say they're the same other than the raised clip-ons and the fairing. I found out that I am now too old for clip-ons and the screen is ineffectual.
I was also surprised that the extra 15 bhp and 50cc from my version made no discernible difference, which I assume is mainly down to Euro4 compliance.
Great vid I am seriously considering one of these for my daily commute to work. I think it’s probably the only four cylinder bike that is left in this class now
I think you're right about that. There aren't too many 4-cyl 600 class bikes on the market. That was one of the primary reasons I had no problem paying more for the CB650F over the 2-cyl options from other manufacturers. Get a CB; you won't be disappointed.
whats so good about 4-cyl?
Jesus MLG They run smooth and have a broad torque curve with high HP, and they sound great.
But the CB650F is extremely heavy and doesn't have a gear indicator :(
The CB650F isn't heavy at all. It's not lightweight like a CBR600RR, but it's perfectly easy to handle it at both high and low speeds. Gear indicator can be added on aftermarket if you really want one. I agree they are handy to have but I've been riding fine without one.
This is the bike my driving school used as a training bike. I liked it. It's a solid, useful bike. Good for beginners and commuters alike.
Cheers Zea....
I have a 2016 model. Took it to The Bol D'or soon after i bought it. Back through France, Germany, Luxembourg and Belgium.
Economical with a great tank range and a reasonable amount of power. Use it every day to commute work.
A great little bike imho.
This is my learner bike. I love it!!
This is an excellent review. Far superior to others I have seen and I've just bought one of these.
Thank you!
I bought one of these when I passed my test, great bike to start on couldn't fault it at all really, I'm a massive sports bike fan so the cb650f ended up being swapped for a fireblade which is a lot more exciting all round.
Had a chance to ride one of these today for a few hours.
What an improvement over the older model!
Judging from the video, this bike appears really well designed. Purposeful and refined. More so to me than the twin cylinder MT-07. Great impression review of what appears to be a very sensible bike. Thank you, TMF for bringing us this one!
You’re welcome
Just bought a 2018 reg and she’s gorgeous as soon as I saw her I fell in love , thank you for the video as your the only one on RUclips that’s done a decent job of a review for it 😊
Glad I could help and congratulations on the new bike!
@@TheMissendenFlyer thank you !
I've had the US version (2018 model) since last October. It's a very nice bike if you want something usable in pretty much any sitaution. My take on the CB650F is this:
Weight: Feels right. It is balanced well. The CG is low making it stable. It doesn't feel heavy at low speeds either; very manueverable in parking lots. Easy to walk it around if you need to park it somewhere tight.
Handling: Surprisingly good for a bike that's billed as a commuter / general purpose. Comparing it to a supersport is pretty dumb, so people who do that don't ride and/or don't know what they're talking about. In its class, it's one of the best.
Appearance: I love the looks. The headers are very distinct and the overall styling is great without being over-the-top in any way. You could probably shed a few lbs by swapping the exhaust, but there are no aftermarket exhausts that look as good as stock. Only change I made was a tail tidy.
Controls: All work fine. I swaped the levers to adustable ones. One complaint is the turn signal on mine gets stuck sometimes when trying to activate it.
Fuel: I got about 38 MPG average, and after adding a windscreen, 40 MPG. I highly recommend a windscreen, it improves comfort at high speeds.
Comfort: As for riding position, very good and non-fatiguing. No complaints. The seat is uncomfortable and should be replaced with something better, or re-padded. After about an hour of riding my back starts to hurt...fortunately the seat is easy to swap.
Overall: I wanted a 4-cyl with about 100 HP, and I wanted one with a purpose-built swingarm rather than tubular steel junk (matters more than most think). I didn't want a liter bike or a sportbike because I wanted to be comfortable riding around. The CB650F was 95% what I wanted and I got a good deal on it. Yes, it has a hydroformed aluminum swingarm which you'd find on any high performance bike. It seems to be rare; I've yet to see another rider on a CB650F and I've seen many riders. Great bike for anyone, whether you're just getting started or are a seasoned rider looking for something with more utility than a sportbike and just about as much fun.
Wow - thanks for that!
Before this bike, Honda were making the 102BHP Hornet 600 which was very very fast as well as the detuned and 76hp CBF600 which is still quite fast and very comfortable on a motorway or a fast road. They discontinued both these bikes in 2014 and then brought out the CB650f which is about halfway between the two bikes in almost every way and spec. Makes sense because the Hornet was overkill and the CBF600 (which I have) is bland in style and unpopular as a model in general. Nice review, might even get one in a year or two.
TMF - You continue to pump out engaging, comprehensive reviews that give off a warm friendly vibe. So thank you for that sir!
I want to add - My opinion of Honda motorcycles is fairly conflicted. I've only ever had the privilege of riding one motorcycle: My friend loaned me his 2012 Honda CBR250R for a summer a couple years ago, I learned how to ride it within 5-10 minutes I was on the road able to proceed from a stop at a stop sign on a steep incline, I consider(ed) myself a natural but maybe Hondas are just that user friendly? Anyway, at this time I'm not a proud owner of a motorcycle of any kind but I rode that CBR non stop that summer and I (cautiously) consider myself a fairly adept rider and fairly, if I'm honest, a theoretical nerd when it comes to the industry and all its offspring. Honda confuses me though, I am drawn to the quality of materials, excellence of build, design purity (of some) and burnished reputation for bullet proof reliability yet it seems they constantly lag behind the competition performance wise as well as market progression.. i.e. Honda probably won't pursue the 400cc 'beginner class' engine size any time soon and if they do chances are it will be outgun or matched, performance wise by the presumably-obsolete-by-then Yamaha YZF-R3. It's as if Honda assumes it's customer base and potential customer base doesn't want to see Honda engage in any performance wars. Perhaps for the sake of reliability? Safety? I don't know. Surely Honda has the capability to meet or exceed competitions performance benchmarks, why not go for it? Rant over, thanks TMF look forward to more reviews and first impressions!
Cheers
Thanks for the kind words Danny - stay tuned!
The last time I was on a CB650F I was doing 3 days of training followed by my mod1 and mod2 tests. They had been a bit ragged but they are easy to ride and make a great first bike, training bike and commuter bike. For me though a bit on the dull side against other options on the market.
What are you comparing it to that you conside rto be better than the CB650F?
Lovely bike. Nice and light. Simple. Little screen for touring. Perfect. Ideal do everything bike. Probably even better down light trails than some of the bid adventure stuff.
Like it a lot and great noise too.
Yes that sound is addictive....
Thanks for the review. As a satisfied Honda owner - NC750S - and fan of naked middleweights, I might get one of these as my next bike.
I've waited you so long to review this machine. Thank you!
Sorry for the long wait!
Great review - thanks. Picked mine up from the dealer yesterday and very pleased with it. I had the NC750S but that gave no grin factor, where as this one does. Looked at several in this category but plumbed for this due to personal preference. Now to get some miles covered 😃. Cheers for the review.
Enjoy David!
Wall-E inspired clocks :)
This bike is not replacing the Hornet, it’s been tuned to have more urban usable engine. The hornet is constantly asking to be reved up.
I really like inline fours and the Honda 650F. A real quality piece. I do wish it had belt drive. You mentioned the “white van” issue in London traffic. Here in Florida, near Tampa, it seems that every fourth vehicle is a pickup truck pulling a trailer with lawn equipment. Thanks again. Ride safe.
Yes I'd heard that about Florida before Jeff, must make a note to self.....
I've just bought one of these after passing my test yesterday - I was going for the Street Triple R but after speaking to your friends at Principal Insurance (where I dropped your name of course) and having a good laugh at the quotations (£2000 plus) I decided I should opt for something a little more insurance friendly for the first proper bike. It was either this or the Suzuki SV650 but after watching your review on this one, and checking out the resaleability of both, the Honda certainly holds its value better. Thank you for all the time and effort you put into the videos they make for great watching!
Enjoy Iain, and I think you made the right choice - make the Street Triple your second bike...
You sir do the best bike reviews on RUclips
Very kind of you to say so, thank you.....
Great review TMF. I had the Hornet as my first big bike which was mostly used for commuting, and it really was a quality bike, never let me down, like yourself not sure about headlights transformer looks but for a new rider sure you can't go wrong with this in your garage.
Hey TMF, I owned the CB650F for two years from 2015 when it was first launched before changing to the Triumph T120. I can say after two years of ownership it was a cracking bike, super reliable, usual excellent build quality from Honda and a great commuter but most of all it was masses of fun. Once I'd got rid of the awful stock tyres and fitted Pirelli's plus a tail-tidy Saturday rides out with my mates were a hoot. They all had Street Triples but my Honda kept up without any problem Cornering was excellent and lovely creamy power delivery. She stood up to two winters of daily commuting 50+ miles and I got a very good price at the trade-in. Thanks again for a great review.
Thanks for the real world feedback, all the best - TMF
Paul what tyres do you recommend for someone getting this bike in a few weeks? UK ish climate here in Denmark,
i like going fastish in the corners and not dying in the rain... !
Hi HappyOwl, I had Pirelli's fitted (the stock tyres were awful) and they really sorted the bike out. I rode it through a whole summer & winter (UK temperate climate) with no issues and great road handling. Best of luck.
It's nice bike, in looks, sound, weight and handling. I like especially that Honda managed to get an inline 4 in at that weight.
Great review, I've ridden this bike in London and loved it, so much fun. TMF, looking forward to the CB1000R Neo café racer... when it's out that is. I'll be looking for that review👍
i saw it in our honda dealer on saturday, that thing is gorgeous. and they made the 125 version spankingly attractive
Brilliant review once again TMF :) lovely engine noise when you parked it up to do the walkaround, it's got a lovely deep rumble about it. Those front brakes are bigger than on my Versys 1k!ahah
A really good looking bike! Like that a lot! As ever, great review! There are so many good bikes and I think almost anything will be great, so it really is down to the smaller things that are personal taste in these things, like aesthetics.
Exactly right Vernon - thanks for watching once again....
I ride it, everyday. And I really like it, each day a little more. Thanks for the review.
You're welcome...
Andy - thanks so much for the great review - so much in fact, I now own one of these.
I have the CBR650F & I agree with this review great work as usual by TMF keep up the great work!
I'm glad we concur!
It's funny, but with all the twins and triples around these days, it's still the in-line fours you hear missing gears in the bypass on a Sunday morning. Long may it continue.
Nodded off for a few seconds and then woke up with a jump, just as that Nissan Note started to wander. I thought he was going have us both off the bike! Lol.
I have CB500F 2017 year,i hope the next big bike is cb650f 2018! Because both bikes is so beautifull and so power,cb500f is so easy to driving,nice sound engine and i hope my future bike cb650f is better than cb500f :)
Full system, tail tidy and bar end mirrors.... awesome bike!
I am looking to move from my gsx1250fa to a smaller bike more suited to my commuting needs. I tried a honda cb500 but found the difference a bit too much, but noticed this in their showroom.
I intend having a test ride next week and am doing a bit of research and found your video most helpful, Thanks
just a quickie haha, if you leave it in gear longer and take it closer to redline it actually goes, feels like a vtech
Great Review, thanks
My pleasure
I think it might be a great last big bike too... The only other 4 cylinder bike I had was a HONDA Pan European ST1300 which had an amazing V4 engine. At 208 kg wet (Triumph always give dry weights remember) it is worth having that weight to have a 4 cylinder....
hi Mr Flyer. recently did ie mid March, a 1700 mile tour of northern Spain on a 2015 model of this bike covering from 180 to 350 miles per day. bike was not tiring to ride over long distances and I could achieve just about 200 to a tank, depending on roads and riding style. also as I am just about 5ft 7 with 30 inseam its one of the few bikes I feel comfortable on, as always great and informative vid
Wow - 200 miles is pretty useful! Thanks for watching.....
Another great every man review, well done fella. 👍🏻
Thank you....
any chance of you reviewing the suzuki SV650 2017 as it's a very popular VTWIN
Yep - coming soon!
had a 2014 and now have the 2017 bike. no regrets.........dave :)
In your opinion: Is there a significant difference between them? I am searching for a used one and the 2017 models are 800€ - 1000€ more expensive than the 2014 models. I am trying to find out , if the update is worth the money. I could only test ride the 2014 model. Really liked it.
I test rode one of the older ones 2 years ago before I bought a Street Triple. I remember it being boring. Now that my Triumph has been stolen I tried the newer CB650 today. It's improved a lot! I think the biggest disappointment last time was the noise, this year's version though sounds like a proper inline 4! If I buy it I suspect I will use a lot of fuel.
Sorry to hear about your Street Andrew :0(
TheMissendenFlyer so was I. I want another Street Triple really but feel I should take the opportunity to try what's out there.
thanks mate for another great review,,watched so many,looked at so many,but now bought blue 2018,,,keep em coming
Congratulations Paul!
I've been riding the cbf125 I'm doing my bike test soon.
Wanting the same sort of bike but faster.
I loved how quiet this was in the review, also the same shape as my loved cbf125.
Looks like this will be my next step into the biking world.
Thanks
Thanks for watching and good luck with your test Tristan!
I really like your revues. Thanks for doing them.
You're very welcome Don - thanks for the kind feedback.....
Another great review. Any chance of you getting hold of a CCM? I love the fact that you review the full range of bikes in various CC's. I would love to see a review if the CCM GP 450 Adventure as well as the Spitfire models (although I believe they are like hens teeth).
I’d love a go on one of the new CCMs - as you say, hens teeth!
Nice review TMF! I learnt to ride on a 2003 plate bandit 600S and then owned a 2000 plate Bandit 600 for a year and a half. I can confirm that this bike rides like a dream in comparison. It felt like a modern bandit to ride, but one that *felt* lighter at lower speeds (it isn't), started on cold mornings and hadn't been dropped 650 times. There are a few negative...ish reviews about it online (e.g. buzzy engine, naff LCD screen, BHP is alledgedly quite a bit less than 90). What I would add is that if you had learnt on a bike like the old bandit, then you might not even notice any of these points. You might just love it. I didn't read any reviews until after my test rides and was quite surprised!
I had the 2015 Tri-colour CB650FAE for about 18 months before upgrading to my MT10.
The CB is a lovely bike for day to day and if you don't mind ringing it's neck you can have a fun weekend blast too.
I removed the stock exhaust for a full de-cat system and it was very loud... always got heads turning. A little screen goes a long way for wind removal and also makes it look better.
I'd recommend one for a first "big bike".
A friend rides one and seems a great bike. Was disappointing to find the exhaust is one piece from the headers to silencer
I just took delivery of a 2018 matt black cbr 650f. My first big bike. Maybe because its new but im finding it buzzy on the hands and the seat. I does need to be revved to get the most from the engine but a very comfortable and well made bike
Thanks for respecting the hearse.
Great test ride again Sir. Very thorough on the spec side. Cheers Dave
Thank you....
I had a yellow Hornet all those years ago..............considered a big bike then..................600cc bikes these days are "just" mid-sized..........how things change! Great review yet again.
I know, nuts isn't it....
You mentioned that the CB650F was an A2 bike in the clip and this is true, provided you apply a restriction accessory kit that cuts the power in half! The standard 90 bhp bike is full (i.e. A) licence stuff.
For the avoidance of doubt, the A2 criteria after passing the test is:
No more than 35kW (47bhp) and a power-to-weight ratio of no more than 0.2kW/0.26bhp per kg with a MINIMUM weight of 175kg to stop say the lightweight 250s busting a hole through the legislation.
I understand the old 650F couldn't be restricted but helpfully, this one officially can.
Kevin: my reading of the regs is that the 175 kg minimum weight applies only to bikes at the maximum 35 kW power output, and not to all A2 bikes: 35/175=0.2. Bikes making less power can be lighter. Take the KTM Duke 390, 149 kgs dry, about 165 wet, with 32 kW gives a fraction under 0.2 kW/kg.
Hi Christopher: Yes I understand that's correct so if you want to ride a bike using the full 47 bhp then it will need to come in with a minimum kerb weight of 175 kg. And the other side of the coin therefore is that some lightweight bikes with less than 47bhp are not A2 legal.
Going back to the Honda, I wonder what a restricted CB650F feels like in practice?
Great review as always. I was wondering: you compare the Honda with your street triple. What do you drive when you pick up a bike for a review? Is it the street triple when you pick up a naked and the panigali when picking up a sports bike? I could imagine you would like to freshen up your mind when starting a review.
Yes that's basically it - I try and ride to the dealer or wherever on a similar type bike if I can....
A nice practical lightweight machine for everyday use, with enough power for some out of town weekend fun. A fair new price and being a Honda you know the finish will probably outlast the lesser quality brands. I agree that it would look better with a round headlight and what is the purpose of those ugly black things attached to each side of the tank? The relatively minimal electronic package means it should help hold its second-hand value too, as when they go wrong they are often difficult to diagnose and expensive to replace. Many modern bikes are scrapped when they go beyond economic repair. I think Honda is on to a winner here, as a kind of slightly upmarket, ever popular, Suzuki Bandit. Another a great review.
Cheers Geoff...
I have the 2016 model and have covered just under 3k from new in all weather and it's a dream for the daily commute, the suspension could be a little better but this is a great bike and very forgiving
When I clicked through to this video, I didn't expect to see you driving through where I live haha.
Have a 500f which I love but fancy one of these next year.. Great video.. What helmet cam do you use mate?? Thx
Hero 4 - deets in description...
Another great review..I am a Honda fan and I love 4 cylinder bikes BUT this is hugely dull looking..does nothing for me but am sure it's a lovely bike.
It rides beautifully, but I agree the looks aren't anything special...
I think the faired version looks better than this naked version.
It will be nice if they update it again with a gear indicator. For the price you're paying it would be a nice thing to have, I would consider this bike or even the GSXS-750 but this is more practical with a large tank too.
“Ahhhhhh the white van man”
Im finding myself say that now when im behind one
Just bought a CBR650F Tri-Colour........it’s fantastic
Glad you're liking it!
Nice review!!! nice bike. Could you possibly do a review on the Honda NC 750X, would be nice to see your opinion on it!
Will see what I can do!
I just spent the day on one of these practising for my mod 1. Great bike with a nice chunky feel. Plenty of power, however the 2015 one I had vibrated like a mother.
First thing I did when I got on there was toot the horn because it's swapped with the indicators, then the first thing I did when I got back on my KTM was toot the horn again!
Thanks again ! Mr Honda does it again for value for money and reliability.... I would fit a small fly screen as a useful addition ....
Excellent review and another bike for the new bike list this coming month.... A z650 review would be good if you could manage
Yes I do like the looks of those...must get that sorted...cheers!
I was surprised how much I liked Joy and Martin's little Hornet hire bike. Loads of fun at more sane speeds. The exhausts on this remind me of the old Honda 400 four. Think the main disappointment is the sound this and most of the other Euro 4 machines make #sewingmachine
Would you please say whether this inline 4 engine is too high revving to make it a practical bike for stop and go urban commuting? Thanks for your informative and down-to-earth approach to discussing motorcycles.
Perfect commuter I’d say!
Nice mid size oriental bike - like the looks. Smallest 4 cyl. bike for sale at the moment? Good showing, as always.
I've heard you mention not owning an in-line 4 a few times in your reviews. I'm expecting a comments kicking for this but from my experience I'd say don't buy one to add to your twins/triple stable unless it's for track days. I've owned just one; a Yamaha FZ1n which I had at the same time as an MT03 single and a Street Triple about 8-10 years ago. After the initial buzz of riding the new FZ I found I would always end up taking out the MT despite the woeful power comparison on paper or the Street Triple. I just found the in-line 4 engine too bland compared to the other two engines and from 0-60 there really wasn't much between them in acceleration either. We all know the 4s have all their power hiding so far up the rev range that you have to be in a certain type of mood (read 'risk losing yer license mood') to really get the most out of them.....even when they've been re-tuned as most of the nakeds have been. Singles, twins and triples (and V4s like my lovely old duffer of a VFR800 pre-vtech thingy) on the other hand; masses of torque right where you want it for the street. Perfect.
Great review as usual TMF. Any chance of a review on the Kawasexy Z650/ER6-n? Would like to see your opinion on it. I think this sector of bikes is extremely popular (and always will be) purely because its ''the first big bike'' zone. Ride safe mate!
I'll see what I can do!
Good looking proper motorcycle. Good work, Mr Flyer !
Hey TMF, have you considered a different route from Ruislip. Try Breakspear Road to Harefield and then either turn left onto the High Street followed by Church Hill and then onwards to Denham or turn right into Rickmansworth Road and head back that way.
If your going through the High Street, give me a wave. Keep up the good work. Smiffy
I don't know the area very well and fear I'll get lost and want my mummy....I'll check google maps next time I go up that way...
I learnt to ride on a CB650R which I believe is the replacement for the CB650F in this video. I loved it and believe most of the comparisons between the two are identical, including the engine. I notice that the CB650F are available for quite a lot less than the CB650R and as such, I've taken some interest in getting one. Is there much of a difference between the two? Does it have ABS, traction control and a gear indicator?
It does not - You can get a shift indicator but no Traction control tho
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Nice review! I know that is quite a different category... but how is the difference with the duke390? It feels less torque at low rpm? Hello from Vietnam!
A completely different ride in every way....
Hehe... Ok, I will try it... Easier to know... Thanks for the reply ;P I subscribed to your channel!
Yeap, I am agree with your... Currently I ride a duke390. And I could say that is enough for me at the moment... The acceleration is 5,50s from 0-100km/h, later is slower. The torque is in the meddium, like monster 821 but in scale. I didn't try the Z650, but I think the change is very small, with worse softer suspension and more weight. I think I will stay wiht a duke390 and if I need to change I will do with a z800 or monster 821 which is much more expensive here. Ride safe!
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Nice vid MrF and what a lovely day for a ride. Totally agree with your conclusion, great bike for younger riders and commuters. Bit less intimidating than the Street Triple I’d imagine. And a 4 cylinder is definitely lovely to ride. You haven’t tried the Aprilia V-4 Tuono yet, right? That may be interesting!
Correct - sadly I don't have access to any Aprilia dealers and hence have never ridden any of the marque...
TheMissendenFlyer ok....I’ll write a snotty letter to Aprilia UK and ask them why they they don’t let motovloggers test their bikes. Might sell a few more! I’ll let you know what the reply is! 😉
...actually that's not actually the case, I know "Lamb Chop Rides" has borrowed a couple in the past so it must be possible....I just need to get off my backside and write to the right man....
TheMissendenFlyer you’d have to find the right dealer who keeps enough bikes in stock.....not all of them do it seems......try LambChops dealer.....look forward to it and good luck! 👍.
Another great review, Thank you.
May I ask you for your advice,
I am about to get my first big bike and am looking at both the Honda CB650f and the Suzuki SV650. They are different in looks and obviously one an inline four the other a V-twin. Which one would you get if you were in my position thinking you would be doing this as I am just after having completed my DAS. Please can you let me know. Thanks
I love both those bikes (I have an SV650 in the garage at the moment!) - personally I like the idea of having a 4 cylinder bike, so the Honda wins on rideability and noise, the Suzuki wins on looks....tough one eh? You won't be disappointed with either by the way...
Thank you for your reply. Personally I prefer the round headlamp of the sv 650 and that it has a gear indicator for looks but I can understand your thoughts on an in line 4. Are you going to publish a review on the SV650 and if so when do you think you may do this. Please can you let me know.
Yes I have at least 3 videos on the SV650 in the pipeline - should see them in the next month or so (working on schedules)....
yeah, but its smaller brother, the cb500f, has speed striped as a graphic, and has we know having those make it goes way faster
Don't slate the 500, it's a brilliant little bike
Love the microfone on the video when you riding the motorcycle any chance you can share it us about it... Im new in the motorcycling so sorry if its strange questions....
Good bike for someone with a full licence who hasn't ridden for a while and wants to get back into riding again.
Agreed 100%
Good morning TMF.
When are we going to see you on the new 2019 cb500x?
Looking forward to that one.
Soon I hope! ...it's on the radar...
Looking at getting one of these now as my first bike. 👌🏻
Good choice!
Thank you for the review of this bike now I can get one knowing that it’s really good
Did you get one yet?
@@pedroferreia974 I did and it's fantastic had it over a year now and not one problem
I rode both the cb650f and the CBR650F. Ended up buying the cbr prefer the riding position of the faired version. Really don’t think you need more power it has enough to overtake and to have fun without being stupid.
100% agreed.....
Now its even harder to choose which one to buy. Mt07, sv650, z650, or cb650f. Beginner rider here just looking for an upgrade this year. 95% will be using the bike for commute., in town lots of traffic and stop light. Minimal highway/freeway ride. Please advice.
My SV650 reviews are coming soon.....stay tuned! ;0)
Nice bike,a great budget all rounder. Exhaust looks good but leaves no room for a centre stand.
That was a lot of traffic, do you ride defensively at junctions? I worry about cars pulling out. I also go very slow down the outside of traffic, never trust them not to do a u turn. Ride safe.
Cheers Splodge57 - you too....
Have you done a review of the CB500F yet? Love it if you could - picking one up early next week. It's a parallel twin.
No I haven't Andy - congrats on your new bike, exciting times eh?!