Don't Like Wearing Chest Strap Heart Rate Monitors?
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- Опубликовано: 9 сен 2024
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In this video I will be comparing the Coros Heart Rate monitor to a Polar H10 and to a wrist watch heart rate. What's the best heart rate monitor from a data standpoint? And does the Armband stack up with the gold standard for measuring heart rate during cycling.
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I use a Polar armband optical HR monitor placed just off my bicep on the outside. It's accurate enough for my needs, and I'm more than willing to put up with any lag or inaccuracies to get away from chest straps. I absolutely detest how chest straps feel. Armband was an immediate QOL improvement for me. While I haven't run both at the same time to do a direct comparison, it seems to keep up well enough with max efforts. I've never looked down at my Wahoo and thought "Wow, that HR doesn't look right at all!" Can't say the same for my Pixel smartwatch...
The problems with optic sensor are mostly interference like hair, skin colour and water as all of them could affect reading precision
i think if the arm strap was positioned on the inside of the bicep it would work better, being that our arteries run on the inside of the bicep.
Interesting to hear that, I was just going on the company instructions.
@@roadcyclingacademy Try it out and see if the 20 sec delay gets better
@@roadcyclingacademy try it out and see if the 20 sec delay gets better!
try it out and see if 20 sec delay gets any better
...what I was thinking also.
I use my wrist based Fénix 7. To improve the reading I turn the watch to read HR in the lower part of the wrist (significant improvement as there is more blood flow)
Interesting to hear that. Thanks for sharing on the thread.
Have used various arm straps and in general they do not work as well as a chest strap. The chest straps tend not to drop out, have longer battery life (Magene, moofit ). Recall a prior arm strap i used where the explanation given for why it was not working well was: I had hair on my arms and my skin color was black.
I have had the best result with a Tickr Fit arm strap. The HR reading lags the effort by about 10 s, but I think it peaks out at around the right HR.
With chest straps I found that I got so sweaty, or something, that they'd stop reading just when I was really getting into it after an hour or so, which it why I went for the arm band
For a lot of rides I just use a Fenix 6 - seems OK if I'm just commuting and throwing in a few intervals along the way
I find the best spot is the upper forearm for the polar OH+ and scosche rhythm. Only problem is garmin uses hrv to do calculations which neither of them transmit
Wahoo Ticr ftw, the armband could have a notch grippier velcro because in weight training tends to rip it open often
After several HRM failures after replacing the battery or drying out on cooler winter days I decided to go with the Coospo arm band unit after reading the review on Roadcc. It’s been super reliable with few if any drop outs over the 2 yrs that I’ve been using it.
I for one will never go back to a chest strap HRM.
well, thanks. I had 2 Wahoo chest straps, and both lasted about 1 year before stopping completely. I have a Withings watch, not ideal, now I know why. Always hated chest straps. Will seriously consider the arm strap.
I got a question for Neill and the community: Has anyone experienced Sesamoiditis or pain around that area under the ball of the foot? Could cleat postion or cleat type be a reason? Or not enough arch support?
Chest straps are by far the most reliable. Then arm, then wrist. Wrist readings can often be pretty useless, so if you don't have a power meter, chest, unless you really, really dislike chest straps. For women, arm is good because bras tend to interfere with chest straps.
Yep, that's exactly what the tests uncovered. Cheers
I've personally never had any bra/heart rate monitor incompatibility issues, but its worth noting garmin sell a HRM specifically designed to clip onto a sports bra to alleviate this issue for anyone who experiences it.
Semi-serious question - Do skinny road cyclists need at least some bicep bulge to hold it in place without cutting blood supply to the arm ...?
when precise HR data is important I use a chest strap, have tested it against different wrist solutions and they all are not as precise and take time to show somewhat reliable data at all. When it's not so important I use my Garmin watch - so no need for that sensor: For those who don't own a sport watch (probably not many active humans...) the arm strap would be an option, when it is not to expensive - but then the BT-only concept is a no go for some applications, they absolutely should include ANT+, shouldn't be a big deal anyways
I have used the Wahoo Ticker armband for over 1 year now, I found it to be very accurate. I am thinking about trying this Coros Unit.
Thanks Cam for showing another option. Anyone try a Core temperature sensor or a sweat sensor ?
Same. It has been a solid performer
Nice news about the bike computer… as mostly a runner the arm band has had plenty of traction from that market. I’ll have to get their bike computer so everything will be Coros. Edit, forgot to add my Coros arm band turned up this week.
I have am issue with my chest called pectus excavatum which is a dip in the chest caused by the cartilage joining the ribs to the sternum doesn't grow properly as a teen and leaves the sternum behind essentially creating a dip so, naturally, a chest strap doesn't work for me and i use an arm band but really question its accuracy .
I wonder why BLE only in 2024? Garmin Edge 830 gets choked so much on too many BLE connections and I would rather stick with ANT+.
Good question, not 100% sure. But will ask Coros why.
cheaper.
I have the polar verity, IMO, not as good as the chest strap, but it feels a lot better. Wear it a lot on days i just want HR, but not important, and if I happen to forget, I still have the Garmin watch, which is not as good as the polar arm band
Coros bike computer is a great paper weight I hear
Well yeah, I have shied away from chest straps because I hate them. I would definitely use one of these, in fact, I probably will buy one
Using arm strap for last 7 years or so - no way back to chest strap for me. DCR tests showed that until very extreme cases - optical on the arm is good enough. But tried for some time to exchange it with just garmin fenix - this was very unreliable. So optical is in principle very very good - but the location plays a huge role.
I'm more than happy with my Garmin HRM3 (aka Premium Band). It was cheaper than the Coros and I only need to change the battery every year, if not later and I've had it since 2012 or 2013.
In my opinion, I can't see why one would have trouble breathing with a chest strap, as it is supposed to sit on the sternum and ribs by design don't expand that much or at all to cause any discomfort.
I understand some people have no issue with the chest strap. But many do. Everyone is different and we have many members that demonstrate that. Cheers
@@roadcyclingacademy Fair enough. Obviously if someone is having issues with a device that there are alternatives to it readily available, then they should change to another option.
I have been aware of all these HRMs; but, for me chest straps are the best value with no downside. I still appreciate your effort to figure out how the alternatives stand up to the litmus test
I ve got one if these by coospo brilliant been using it for a while.. I had whoop and ditched it.. I don’t like chest straps 😊 Pete 🚴🏻👍
You haven’t convinced me to switch from a chest strap…..even though I find chest straps only seem to last about 10,000km. (Have not tried Polar)
As for Coros, based on the real tech reviewers like Lama and DC they have a long way to go to get some credibility with their head unit and consequently I wouldn’t touch them
I am sorry but I cant trust a company that release a new bike computer that is literally not a finished product.
Technically it's not released yet. They sent some units to a whole bunch of reviewers to do a 'first look' NOT a deep dive, but that's what they got with a few reviewers. Definitely backfired in some cases. I think you'll find Coros has a very good rep in the watch/running space. So I faith the computer will be solid.
@@roadcyclingacademy “First Look”. Hey here is a unit which doesn’t work but please say nice things about it. 💩
Hey @@thedronescene7474 To clarify a couple of things, when DURA ships to customers on July 15, we will have updated the firmware from the beta software demonstrated in several of the "first look" articles or videos you may have seen - which is why we recommended first-looks rather than long-term reviews for media in June. As a business, we take pride in continually updating our products with improvements to add value for everyone who chooses COROS and are confident it will be a great experience for everyone who purchases DURA, we hope to change your mind in the future!
Try coospo ones, I have one for a year now, and it’s great
Found the wahoo tickr arm strap completely crap. Super unreliable and higher than threshold never worked
It’s a shame the bluetooth only connection is a deal breaker for me!
Coros makes both a chest strap and bicep strap. I have a wrist based watch and i don't see the value of using a bicep strap.
Where can I find the chest strap James? I haven't seen them from Coros.
@@roadcyclingacademy I read about them once. My guess is they were discontinued.
Maybe I was thinking about the watch. It's confusing with so many products around.
Even cheap chest straps are quite accurate, have ANT+, work on any skin color and it's a third of the price. I don't see any advantage on this for cycling or running. Maybe for swimming.
If you're happy with the chest strap then yes, I would stick with that. Many people don't like them. So this is more for that crowd.
@@roadcyclingacademy fair
I suggest you avoid getting outside one's lane. in this case measurement science and experimental design. "Polar Product" is not a "Gold Standard" for cardiac. Presentation has all the pitfalls of an anecdotal.