These guys often get units early because the manufacturer has an agreement with them to make their unit look as good as possible, the term for this is: MARKETING.
@@Captain-J-Amadaeus There is no future (due to the fact that it will happen and does not happen now, maybe never happen) and there is no past (due to the fact that it happened and does not happen)
@@JhonIkkiOfficial Fair, but counter point, if at no period of time is anything happening would that not mean that existence in and of itself is impossible.
I think that steamdeckOS is going to be the next android of the handheld world I think it would be pretty interesting to see different handhelds running the same OS with compatibility between each other
If SteamOS becomes the next android this'll be interesting... especially since they plan on making it so it works on other desktops in the future as well... makes me hope that major games will start supporting SteamOS
@@NonsensicalSpudz that’s the fun part of SteamOS 3 and proton. The entire hardware abstract makes it possible enough that hardware that is up to date won’t matter
NO. FREAKING. WAY. I remember drawing a device that looked EXACTLY like this when I was a kid. The Vita was just announced (not even launched) and I immediately thought about slapping a keyboard to it (sidekick style 😎) I drew like 4 different versions on grid paper. It's crazy seeing it in person. I might buy one for my childhood self
Keyboard kinda reminds me of the one on a symbian Nokia phone my wife once had also someone saying they were a kid when vita was getting ready to come out just makes me feel old
That size would be perfect for me. I wish I didn't have two handhelds already, I'd definitely think about getting this one. Especially that Steam OS works so well on it.
I love that all steam had to do is prove that it could be done at a price point and all the competition is just money in their pocket in software sales. And we're basically in a world where this could replace your phone with a bluetooth accessory.
Yep. Funny enough it’s even better for Valve when people buy other devices like this. Valve is taking a hit on hardware. So when folks buy a device like this, but still lean into the Steam store/ecosystem, valve makes more money from software sales without the hit on a hardware device.
It's just amazing what the power of these new CPUs can bring us. I mean could you imagine a few years back with all those retro handhelds that came out barely playing dreamcast/ps2 that we could play Cyberpunk 2077 in 720p medium settings on the go today. Yes not for a long while you might say but still... However, 3x the price tag of a steamdeck is still a bit too much for me but still, makes me hope the Zen3 architecture will bring the price down of these devices to somewhere around 500/600 €$.
@@digitalg00dtimes58 lets remember the vita is still being hyped after all these years and is relatively cheap now. In time perhaps we might be able to grab these for a much nicer price
Damn this makes me feel conflicted! This looks better performance wise and size wise than the Deck but I’ve gotten so used to the Deck’s controls and layout I’d find it hard to switch back. Flick stick works particularly well on the deck because of the back paddles and I use the touchpads a lot. Awesome to see how quickly handheld performance is advancing though
@@sinephase $649 for the 512 GB Steam Deck vs $799 for the 512 GPD W4 you need to at minimum spend 60-100 on SSD for that 499 Deck to even start comparing that base model.
@@donniedarko4497 Yeah, I hadn’t heard about it till recently but it’s for FPS. The right joystick maps to the direction you’re pointing instead of moving the character, so if you flick the joystick down it turns you 180° and if you move it right it turns you 90° to the right and you use gyro to look up and down. Weird at first but if you get used to it you can be really accurate. One of the issues on regular controllers is you can’t use ABXY while aiming but on Deck you can use the four back buttons instead which is convenient
I think if I had one of these I'd get a cheap NVMe and adapter caddy to plug into the USB 4 (the other type-C would also suffice) with a windows OS so I could double it's functionality, primary role as a steam deck alike and secondary role as a micro portable PC. Shoot, a dock and a cheap small keyboard and mouse pack from a Pound shop and an HDMI cable and you have a hotel room desktop for travelling with.
Man, I hope in the next year or so, the Series S APU can be put into these form factors. This is SO CLOSE, has the full 8 cores/16 threads and is double digit CUs, missing 8 more CUs.
yes but we need better battery tech or battery life will be too short that it needs to be constantly plugged in to a powerbank it defeats the portability
I can see this device being extremely useful for games like PSO2 with that keyboard. I played a lot of PSO2 on my vita and a built in keyboard would’ve been amazing.
Very tempting. Love the screen and size. But I have had many hand held systems including the Vita. What I prefer in the steam deck over this is the controller. It feels like my Xbox one controller. The other hand held game systems controllers feel too small. The only other system with good controller was the nvidia shield portable. I've been waiting for another hand held to feel as good as the shield portable and that is the steam deck.
@@BlackHawk1335 saying this makes me think you must be dreaming. You haven’t considered anything the device has to offer but you are saying for less gain. Go back and do research about the device before you make baseless comments like a little gain.
That price tag isn’t huge my friend. 800$ starting price is only 150$ more than the high end steam deck and the upgrades you get are justifiable. Go and do research about the whole device and you will see that it is great value
But you get near double the features (better screen + keyboard + finger print + IO + Windows built in + speakers + much smaller size + more power + bigger battery)..... They are not equal
Agreed, it's just not that budget friendly despite the form layout and the overal design being soo much better (I'm a psp fan). Looking forward to the next 2 years of improvements as we would be able to expect cheaper and better devices.
And not to mention games that steam, legion and rig ally can’t run these can run so much better @32gb since no one wants to bump up the ram only downside screen only 60hz and no Hall effect trigger or sticks
My question is that if you click the power button does it go into the steam deck sleep mode? where it powers on back to the game like that? That would honestly be the only reason why I would download steam os
Lol ,I'm gonna be honest. I was trying to search the internet for this exact type of video, Running the optimized steam OS on hardware that similar to steam os thank you
How is the touch screen on this device? Does it feel more, less, or equally as responsive as the steam deck from your experience? I find the touch screen on the steam deck to be awful and very unresponsive; it's one of my few gripes with the Deck. The nintendo switch's touch screen is better than the Decks.
I'm really interested on see how these ages, for steams first real competitors first edition I'd love to keep on checking how this new console industry evolves over time with more powerful CPUs, GPUs, battery life, screen, and weight and thickness overall! Merry Christmas everybody btw!
I feel like it's gonna age well. Like sure this isn't gonna play the most recent modern game at all max sets and it's gonna fall off in that regard fast. But, games are starting to peak I think in a way that it's gonna have only more optional settings. (Like RTX). And a lot of these consoles are gonna be for indies anyway so it won't be something that needs to be replaced immediately.
They just gotta redesign the magnification feature to the OS of such tiny screened devices that can very much replace the office desk and the office and even the backpack being pocket portable. They could make a folding version next, they could even make it so it reads your mouse pointer or even finger hovering over the touch screen and that would suddenly magnify the quadrant of the screen you are hovering it over so you can even make sense of when running apps, such as the case with apps with VST's with their ultra tiny text on them that expects you to just memorize everything so you wont touch the wrong selections. I have the GPD Pocket3 intel version. The fan was clotted with some perhaps factory fresh possible fan screening material, I've never seen anything like that before, but did manage to get the fan running again after it physically stopped itself due to the physics of material jamming up the damed noisy spinning thing completely 2 days ago and having being purchased about a year ago. It really was only desk used and super carefully handled. Oh, you really really want to get the screws screwed in without too much tension nor too little for its casing and possibly for most of these casings of tiny devices, or you will notice it wont sit as flat on the flat surfaces anymore until you correct that tensioning carefully not to ruin or wear out the threadings that are made out of maliable not so titanium type metal. I might or would really like to remove that fan entirely, though modded to have a special externally designed liquid coolant based system thin line enough to park itself into a protective casing. I once took wood and made a casing for a cellphone, and the thing that made it work being super thin, was the wood was very much a sponge filled with polyester resin. After that, it could hit the floor without any damages, while being super thin to the point that it could actually acoustically help the audio, but that's a phone without spinny thing in it. I do very much dig the tiny little powerhouse of a computer though, and am about to make a proper mounting plate for it to adapt to for use in the vehicle of much mobility. They should make one from a musicians perspective, or watch such a thing perhaps get popular with a different logo on it finding it's way into the music stores.
The 7000 series APU with Ryzen 4 and RDNA 3 are going to be the butter zone for these types of devices built on 5NM process. I think then I will pull the trigger and purchase one.
@@hydzior in which universe did you hear this from? Come on. This is entirely wrong. Check out the benchmarks of the new 7000series Apus like the 7840u and see how your power draw claims are so wrong
@@ZeroOne130 I understand you, I hate Linux before 2022, but win11 is crap...and the Steamdeck will have a huge market share in the next year, a lot of people don't like the way of windows. Why not, its a good thing for all of us to use Linux. It's your system
Thanks for the always informative videos! 😊 Could you check if the SteamOS sleep mode works as flawlessly and quick in-game as it does on the Steam Deck?
Thats pretty cool soo.. do you make this steam OS a separate partition or what? Theres a ton of space on that thing so taking advantage of it by making 2 OS installations would make this a super cool investment!
I do like the slide up keyboard, reminds me of those phones with the slide board. I still have my old phone around here somewhere, battery poofed up on me so i can't turn it on anymore after i disposed of it.
I think I would prefer a bigger battery over an integrated keyboard since you can use touchscreen instead but either way this is one of my favourite handhelds.
God no. Keyboard is a huge reason why people like me have bought GPD devices for years. Incredibly useful for so many things, and onscreen keyboard isn’t even comparable. For emulators, computer emulation, system operation, shortcuts, text entry and editing, and not having to wrestle with onscreen keyboard in-game etc. there is no substitute for a physical keyboard. GPD is doing the right thing.
Real keyboard is a must imo for this size of a machine. Touch screen will be a nightmare to operate in real life applications. Even steam deck can’t make it right.
The Performance is very impressive, especially compared to the Deck, which I own and love dearly, but my god......being able to raise the TDP that high is great for even better performance but the battery trade off isnt worith it to me. I mainly run most AAA games on my Deck at 30fps with custom power profiles to maximize battery life. I would be very curious to see what kind of battery life one could get with a custom power profile on this device.
@@austinlucas924 the win4 is a lot more portable, and you can use it docked and undocked. The portability factor alone makes it a better imo. Laptops with 6800us cost over £1000 in the uk currently. I know you can get a gaming laptop for the price with a dedicated gpu but the battery life when gaming won'tbe good unless you spend a ton of money for one of the high end ones The price for this device isn't really overpriced. They cut corners as low as they could to keep it at under 1000 dollars.
as far as TDP goes, all you have to do is set TDP in in BIOS to 40 watts (what I use on my win3 anyway), then adjust in game settings, the system scales to demand. Reducing resolution reduces CPU use (in modern games), reducing frame rate reduces CPU and GPU use, and reducing most effects reduces GPU use. Setting you TDP by application will, at best, lessen the experience.
It's an amazing device and I'd love to have it but, for that price... no thanks. With that money you can buy a Switch lite with some amazing Sony heaphones like the 1000xM5 and top tier accessories with lots of games and even you can add a nice little emulation console like the Anbernic RG351M with a case and a microSD. In fact, that's exactly what I own, and I couldn't be happier with it. For big AAA games that are not on the Switch, I play on my PS4 or PC but, maybe if you don't own a console and you wanna play big AAA PC games on the go and budget is not a problem, maybe this could be a good choice.
Definitely see that the Steam Deck hits that balance of performance vs battery life As much as this thing rips you still have to balance out how much you want to crank the 1080p graphics with how long the battery could last
Steam deck hits that balance of performance and battery life 😂😂😂😂. True but you speak as though the other handhelds don’t do the same. 15W on a steam deck is the same as 18 or 20 or even 25W on any other windows handheld with a larger battery. On the contrary, those other handhelds have better battery life and performance than the Steam deck. Go and do your research and you will agree with me
@@AugustineKusiDuah-bk4fr I'm not sure why you're coming off so combative... Sure there are other handhelds with larger batteries, but that's means more weight Sure you can have a higher watt target, but that's more heat which means a larger heatsink resulting in additional weight At a certain point more resolution on a tiny screen has diminishing returns Maybe for more frames with a higher refresh rate but anything that needs that I'm probably playing more seriously at my desktop, leaving the more casual experiences for the handheld
Screens way too small not worth. Glad I got my AOKZOE and an external gpu and docking station if I ever wanna have a desktop feel. Otherwise I’m alll handheld baby 😈 lol
I bought a steam deck not too long ago and I absolutely love it........ But gosh I am salivating over this. I want it so bad. I still think the PSP was one of the prettiest devices ever made, and the fact that this is in this form factor is so cool.
Steam OS should be more popular. Tbh it’s a console killer. You get all the advantages of pc like possibly to upgrade, better specs, variability and the comfort of simple UI which consoles have.
This is HoloISO? Do we have desktop mode in steamOS for this device? The streamlined steamOS experience is what really makes the steam deck special, IMO.
So now the only advantage steam deck still holds up is the entry level 64GB deck low price point? This is crazy how things are changed in such a short time frame! Can’t wait to see what they can do with Zen4 APUs!
I'd argue the ifixit relationship is a big bonus. Crack your steam deck screen 60 bucks gets you a new one. Crack this screen who knows how much or how long to fix. Also over a million users is another huge bonus. If you have a problem a simple search is much more likely to find a fix because of the user base, not to mention things like emudeck.
It is more powerful than the deck. Also, it being double the price doesn’t only come from the performance. Come on man, you are not buying only the chip you know. You are buying a whole device. The whole device is better than the deck
Good video. I would probably stick with the Beta of Steam GamepadUI on Windows for this device. Looks pretty much like the exact thing except it running Linux . . . unless I am missing something. I am using GamePadUI on my main Windows machine and have had absolutely no issues so far.
Mainly its the fact that Steam OS 3 is less taxing on APU resources than Windows. But until Valve offically releases Steam OS 3 it won't be a viable alternative to Windows without some major tweaking.
It has almost no difference between SteamOS and Windows, but if so the Steam would be a little bit worse or outperform Windows. It has noticeable latency than Windows if you are very serious about it.
I'm a refresh rate junkie, would be cool to bump up the refresh rate to something like 90 or 100hz. I play older shooters mostly, and I would benefit me when the framerate is pretty much quadruple that, if not locked behind a hard frame cap.
When you do your EGPU testing be sure to use at least a 3080 or a 6800xt as the 6800u can boost quite well when you're not using it for the GPU as well.
I would say a more mid range like 3060ti ,3070 or 6700xt, the cpu could handle bigger gpus but the usb4 connection bandwidth bottlenecks big time. And imo if you get like a more expensive gpu say close to $1000, you just might be better off building a pc and get better performance.
Happy holidays everyone, got more planned with this like eGPU testing and Emulation for sure.
Go to sleep lol you must be a robot
Is 16GB of RAM enough? Do I need to choose the 32GB version?
Did you get the egpu to work? The phawx in his video said he couldn't get his to work.
@@emmanuelokerenta2346 why ？i need to explain。
Can you stress test the fan noise with a decibel meter?
Watching this channel makes me want to spend more money than I make lol
Ikr!!!
Means it’s a bad influence
These guys often get units early because the manufacturer has an agreement with them to make their unit look as good as possible, the term for this is: MARKETING.
I watch the products from the sidelines and jump in only on key products. I still love watching
@@thedude1368 well he’s doing good job. I want one but I’m not looking to spend over thousand for a handheld. Stick to my steam deck 👌🏿
That's literally insane something that small has a PC that powerful built into it. Crazy! We're in the future.
your comment is from the past being read in the present but you wont respond till the future.
@@MrPufins There is no present (Due to the fact that it takes some time for your brain to process information), only past and future.
@@Captain-J-Amadaeus There is no future (due to the fact that it will happen and does not happen now, maybe never happen) and there is no past (due to the fact that it happened and does not happen)
@@JhonIkkiOfficial Fair, but counter point, if at no period of time is anything happening would that not mean that existence in and of itself is impossible.
@@Captain-J-Amadaeus why do you keep using present tense?
I think that steamdeckOS is going to be the next android of the handheld world
I think it would be pretty interesting to see different handhelds running the same OS with compatibility between each other
If SteamOS becomes the next android this'll be interesting... especially since they plan on making it so it works on other desktops in the future as well... makes me hope that major games will start supporting SteamOS
need more cheaper x86 handheld
@@aynrandom3004 And one with actual battery life, the benefit of Android is the devices are small af and last like 12 hours
@@Crawmeraxew that wont happen, one because unlike console games PC games aren't made for specific hardware
@@NonsensicalSpudz that’s the fun part of SteamOS 3 and proton. The entire hardware abstract makes it possible enough that hardware that is up to date won’t matter
NO. FREAKING. WAY.
I remember drawing a device that looked EXACTLY like this when I was a kid. The Vita was just announced (not even launched) and I immediately thought about slapping a keyboard to it (sidekick style 😎) I drew like 4 different versions on grid paper. It's crazy seeing it in person. I might buy one for my childhood self
You are watching a video..not in person with the dude
@@samgoff5289 you know what he meant
@@samgoff5289 new to the internet?
@@samgoff5289 it seems like it went over your head 🤨
Keyboard kinda reminds me of the one on a symbian Nokia phone my wife once had also someone saying they were a kid when vita was getting ready to come out just makes me feel old
The device looks great it kind of breaks my heart that Sony will never make a Vita 2
hey, this is the closest we'd ever get to a Vita 2
that or the steam deck that is lmao
Their loss
We got way better portable consoles with steam deck, gpd, aya, etc.
Also, these options already have more games then Vita ever got )
but this console exists and can play song games, what could a new sony handheld do which this doesn't?
Each sony handheld sell worst than another. factual sony, nor nintendo can support two devices on the market at the same time.
That size would be perfect for me. I wish I didn't have two handhelds already, I'd definitely think about getting this one.
Especially that Steam OS works so well on it.
Whatt handhelds do you own
@@sergiohilario426 steam deck and Onexplayer 5800u mini
even if it is perfect, i prefer the steam deck more, since it feels more comfier in my hands.
@@9r33ks why not sell one or both of them and grab this?
I was hyped up until i heard 6 inch.
I ain't no woman but that extra inch really makes a difference to me.
😏
The thing I like most about the Steam Deck is the track pads. Playing TBS or RTS games with those is world's better than the joysticks.
Yeah they are really versatile, great for strategy games, i even use them for first person shooters and they feel like a mouse almost
GDP guys have been at this for years amazing to see how far they’ve come.
still pricing themselves out of being mainstream, and not having the build quality to match.
This. GPD have always struggled with long term reliability!
@@Bidwellz9 Dude, gpdwin 4 quality build is at least better than steam deck.
@@soragranda not $400 better
@@Freestyle80 saying this makes me think that you see the 400$ increase in price as only due to the build quality.
Super excited for this device, congrats on gpd for sticking with this idea for so many years
Whoa, I just searched for this and you had posted it 2 minutes before I searched. You are awesome.
That is what I was waiting for... Appreciate your efforts
I love that all steam had to do is prove that it could be done at a price point and all the competition is just money in their pocket in software sales. And we're basically in a world where this could replace your phone with a bluetooth accessory.
Legit and 💯 percent agree with you and yep Valve proved and now it is true
Yep. Funny enough it’s even better for Valve when people buy other devices like this. Valve is taking a hit on hardware. So when folks buy a device like this, but still lean into the Steam store/ecosystem, valve makes more money from software sales without the hit on a hardware device.
These have existed for years though. They did get a bit cheaper this year though thankfully
@@cheeeeezewizzz not this advanced, its levels but I get your aspect
Have a Deck. But jeeeeeeez. So tempted to get this. This is an amazingly and smartly designed computer...
Sell it and get this
@@kevinbbadd bad idea
It's just amazing what the power of these new CPUs can bring us. I mean could you imagine a few years back with all those retro handhelds that came out barely playing dreamcast/ps2 that we could play Cyberpunk 2077 in 720p medium settings on the go today. Yes not for a long while you might say but still... However, 3x the price tag of a steamdeck is still a bit too much for me but still, makes me hope the Zen3 architecture will bring the price down of these devices to somewhere around 500/600 €$.
definitely my favorite design for a handheld pc rn
Yes
Very cool. The only scary thing might be the price on this thing. SteamOS might just be the greatest thing Valve has ever made.
Oh the difference a few years can make. 😄
@@digitalg00dtimes58 lets remember the vita is still being hyped after all these years and is relatively cheap now. In time perhaps we might be able to grab these for a much nicer price
Dude, consider everything the device has to offer compared to the deck and you will see that the price is great value
Wow i did not know you can use SteamOS on other handheld!
This is almost perfect.. i want this so bad now.
Great vid😮 , any way ya can , show 7840u version running Linux with call and text applications To run as a phone with 4g module?
Damn this makes me feel conflicted! This looks better performance wise and size wise than the Deck but I’ve gotten so used to the Deck’s controls and layout I’d find it hard to switch back. Flick stick works particularly well on the deck because of the back paddles and I use the touchpads a lot. Awesome to see how quickly handheld performance is advancing though
that's thanks to AMD but still, it's over twice the price so kind of a tough sell, especially when you can get a decent desktop GPU for the same price
@@sinephase $649 for the 512 GB Steam Deck vs $799 for the 512 GPD W4 you need to at minimum spend 60-100 on SSD for that 499 Deck to even start comparing that base model.
@@bipbop3121 the base model steam deck is 399$ and a 1tb ssd upgrade is about 150ish all together that’s 550$ for a 1tb SD
Flock stick is for first person shooters? Or something else? I've not heard much about it or tried it ever
@@donniedarko4497 Yeah, I hadn’t heard about it till recently but it’s for FPS. The right joystick maps to the direction you’re pointing instead of moving the character, so if you flick the joystick down it turns you 180° and if you move it right it turns you 90° to the right and you use gyro to look up and down. Weird at first but if you get used to it you can be really accurate. One of the issues on regular controllers is you can’t use ABXY while aiming but on Deck you can use the four back buttons instead which is convenient
So much horsepower with a battery that cant handle it. Completely useless lol.
Wish this were a clamshell device also with a keyboard.
How is the quick resume and quick sleep on the gpdwin with steamos
The battery life is a problem nowadays. It’s a pity when you have this type of power machines and the battery tech cannot keep up
True but the battery life is still better than what you get on the steam deck
Compare performance of Steam OS and windows on this device along with battery consumption at same settings.
YES
I think if I had one of these I'd get a cheap NVMe and adapter caddy to plug into the USB 4 (the other type-C would also suffice) with a windows OS so I could double it's functionality, primary role as a steam deck alike and secondary role as a micro portable PC. Shoot, a dock and a cheap small keyboard and mouse pack from a Pound shop and an HDMI cable and you have a hotel room desktop for travelling with.
I think the best thing is that the controls are xinput. It was a nightmare getting steam deck controls working on anything not steam
the handheld is so good a dream machine
Man, I hope in the next year or so, the Series S APU can be put into these form factors.
This is SO CLOSE, has the full 8 cores/16 threads and is double digit CUs, missing 8 more CUs.
yes but we need better battery tech or battery life will be too short that it needs to be constantly plugged in to a powerbank it defeats the portability
This may sound weird, but please can you try and see how usable the trackpad is for FPS games, compared to Steam Deck's large trackpads?
lmao it cant be good
Dude, why would you use a touchpad for an fps game when you have analog sticks?
Install the plug-in loader and put the PSP boot video on it as well as xmb menu sounds, and it'll sound the way it looks
That will bring back so much nostalgia 😶
I can see this device being extremely useful for games like PSO2 with that keyboard. I played a lot of PSO2 on my vita and a built in keyboard would’ve been amazing.
Would love to see a performance comparison of holoiso and windows on these lil machines
Same
No touchpads is a deal breaker for me, I've fallen in love with how accurate, versatile, and customizable the valve touchpads are and i can't go back
Fingerprint sensor can probably be enabled with a linux package
When you look at it altogether this is a better value dollar to dollar than the steam deck itself and it offers much better I/o by far.
"stream"🤨
@@HShango my bad autocorrect learned from the stream deck so now it's stuck in my autocorrect. Thanks for catching that.
The keyboard gives it a lot more functionality.
It's almost twice the price for a little bit better specs. How is that better value?
@@oo--7714 how so? What game would you regularly use that keyboard for?
Unless the battery power is decent, I'm not interested.
That screen slide is so satisfying 🤤
Very tempting. Love the screen and size. But I have had many hand held systems including the Vita. What I prefer in the steam deck over this is the controller. It feels like my Xbox one controller. The other hand held game systems controllers feel too small. The only other system with good controller was the nvidia shield portable. I've been waiting for another hand held to feel as good as the shield portable and that is the steam deck.
Does the sleep and wake function work 100% properly? I don't know why this isn't mentioned.
Looks like a Tmobile sidekick!
I LOVE that valve made this a product category now. So many awesome products!
Fingerprint sensors rarely work on regular linux, not to mention steam deck optimized arch.
This looks like a great little device with a huge price tag.
Twice the price for less than twice the gain
@@BlackHawk1335 saying this makes me think you must be dreaming. You haven’t considered anything the device has to offer but you are saying for less gain. Go back and do research about the device before you make baseless comments like a little gain.
That price tag isn’t huge my friend. 800$ starting price is only 150$ more than the high end steam deck and the upgrades you get are justifiable. Go and do research about the whole device and you will see that it is great value
Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, @ETA
This channel made me decide to buy both and then decide which one I want.
This device will be great with a pair of nreal airs 😊👍
For practically a 1000 dollars double the price of the steam deck but not double the performance pass
Ok valve employee
But you get near double the features (better screen + keyboard + finger print + IO + Windows built in + speakers + much smaller size + more power + bigger battery)..... They are not equal
Agreed, it's just not that budget friendly despite the form layout and the overal design being soo much better (I'm a psp fan).
Looking forward to the next 2 years of improvements as we would be able to expect cheaper and better devices.
And not to mention games that steam, legion and rig ally can’t run these can run so much better @32gb since no one wants to bump up the ram only downside screen only 60hz and no Hall effect trigger or sticks
My question is that if you click the power button does it go into the steam deck sleep mode?
where it powers on back to the game like that? That would honestly be the only reason why I would download steam os
Does this perform better than windows? What's the benefit 🤔 👀?
That thing is so god damn cool. I love the slide out keyboard
I like that warm color tone on that steam deck screen
Lol ,I'm gonna be honest. I was trying to search the internet for this exact type of video, Running the optimized steam OS on hardware that similar to steam os thank you
How is the touch screen on this device? Does it feel more, less, or equally as responsive as the steam deck from your experience? I find the touch screen on the steam deck to be awful and very unresponsive; it's one of my few gripes with the Deck. The nintendo switch's touch screen is better than the Decks.
Hopefully in a couple more years these can play games out of the box and maybe even on high settings native.
I'm really interested on see how these ages, for steams first real competitors first edition I'd love to keep on checking how this new console industry evolves over time with more powerful CPUs, GPUs, battery life, screen, and weight and thickness overall! Merry Christmas everybody btw!
I feel like it's gonna age well. Like sure this isn't gonna play the most recent modern game at all max sets and it's gonna fall off in that regard fast.
But, games are starting to peak I think in a way that it's gonna have only more optional settings. (Like RTX). And a lot of these consoles are gonna be for indies anyway so it won't be something that needs to be replaced immediately.
Remember the gpd xd
They just gotta redesign the magnification feature to the OS of such tiny screened devices that can very much replace the office desk and the office and even the backpack being pocket portable. They could make a folding version next, they could even make it so it reads your mouse pointer or even finger hovering over the touch screen and that would suddenly magnify the quadrant of the screen you are hovering it over so you can even make sense of when running apps, such as the case with apps with VST's with their ultra tiny text on them that expects you to just memorize everything so you wont touch the wrong selections.
I have the GPD Pocket3 intel version.
The fan was clotted with some perhaps factory fresh possible fan screening material, I've never seen anything like that before, but did manage to get the fan running again after it physically stopped itself due to the physics of material jamming up the damed noisy spinning thing completely 2 days ago and having being purchased about a year ago. It really was only desk used and super carefully handled. Oh, you really really want to get the screws screwed in without too much tension nor too little for its casing and possibly for most of these casings of tiny devices, or you will notice it wont sit as flat on the flat surfaces anymore until you correct that tensioning carefully not to ruin or wear out the threadings that are made out of maliable not so titanium type metal.
I might or would really like to remove that fan entirely, though modded to have a special externally designed liquid coolant based system thin line enough to park itself into a protective casing.
I once took wood and made a casing for a cellphone, and the thing that made it work being super thin, was the wood was very much a sponge filled with polyester resin. After that, it could hit the floor without any damages, while being super thin to the point that it could actually acoustically help the audio, but that's a phone without spinny thing in it.
I do very much dig the tiny little powerhouse of a computer though, and am about to make a proper mounting plate for it to adapt to for use in the vehicle of much mobility.
They should make one from a musicians perspective, or watch such a thing perhaps get popular with a different logo on it finding it's way into the music stores.
The 7000 series APU with Ryzen 4 and RDNA 3 are going to be the butter zone for these types of devices built on 5NM process. I think then I will pull the trigger and purchase one.
Naaah not really. Power draw improvments are none mostly.
@@hydzior in which universe did you hear this from? Come on. This is entirely wrong. Check out the benchmarks of the new 7000series Apus like the 7840u and see how your power draw claims are so wrong
Yes you are right
Don’t forget, you are not buying only the chip, you are buying an entire device. Check everything about the device before you buy
That's the beginning of Linux gaming era, in 2 years we will see a huge market share of Linux OS in public
I wish i could bookmark. We will see in 2 years.
@@ZeroOne130 I understand you, I hate Linux before 2022, but win11 is crap...and the Steamdeck will have a huge market share in the next year, a lot of people don't like the way of windows. Why not, its a good thing for all of us to use Linux. It's your system
Thanks for the always informative videos! 😊
Could you check if the SteamOS sleep mode works as flawlessly and quick in-game as it does on the Steam Deck?
Never did I think I would see the day Linux would seriously compete with Windows for gamers.
Why does remind me of the ultimate evolution of a sidekick. 😅 if you know what a sidekick is your an OG an I wanna wish you a marry Christmas 🎉
I almost wish they added a small touch pad to the rear... Would be great to play TearAway again.
Thats pretty cool soo.. do you make this steam OS a separate partition or what? Theres a ton of space on that thing so taking advantage of it by making 2 OS installations would make this a super cool investment!
I do like the slide up keyboard, reminds me of those phones with the slide board. I still have my old phone around here somewhere, battery poofed up on me so i can't turn it on anymore after i disposed of it.
I personally wouldn't bother. I'd run Steam in Windows when I want it and other programs as and when.
Indeed
I think I would prefer a bigger battery over an integrated keyboard since you can use touchscreen instead but either way this is one of my favourite handhelds.
God no. Keyboard is a huge reason why people like me have bought GPD devices for years. Incredibly useful for so many things, and onscreen keyboard isn’t even comparable. For emulators, computer emulation, system operation, shortcuts, text entry and editing, and not having to wrestle with onscreen keyboard in-game etc. there is no substitute for a physical keyboard. GPD is doing the right thing.
@@tappersreviews4677 True GPD is the only one with a hardware keyboard so in that respect you have a point.
Real keyboard is a must imo for this size of a machine. Touch screen will be a nightmare to operate in real life applications. Even steam deck can’t make it right.
It already has a bigger battery than the steam deck at 48Whr
@@tappersreviews4677 indeed
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i could have star wars old republic, unleashed, battlefront, and fallen order in my pocket shits sick
damm this device looks so much better with steam os. it looked so janky with windows. :D
I love that Doom Eternal was spelled "Dooom"
The Performance is very impressive, especially compared to the Deck, which I own and love dearly, but my god......being able to raise the TDP that high is great for even better performance but the battery trade off isnt worith it to me. I mainly run most AAA games on my Deck at 30fps with custom power profiles to maximize battery life. I would be very curious to see what kind of battery life one could get with a custom power profile on this device.
It would be great when docked though, being able to fully max out the system has its benifits.
@oo--7714 very true but then we have to think about the cost of the unit. If it's docked you might as well grab a gaming laptop.
@@austinlucas924 the win4 is a lot more portable, and you can use it docked and undocked.
The portability factor alone makes it a better imo.
Laptops with 6800us cost over £1000 in the uk currently.
I know you can get a gaming laptop for the price with a dedicated gpu but the battery life when gaming won'tbe good unless you spend a ton of money for one of the high end ones
The price for this device isn't really overpriced. They cut corners as low as they could to keep it at under 1000 dollars.
@@oo--7714 Yeaahhhhh but then my 4080 powered desktop is going to get used not my Deck.
@@oo--7714 say it to him again. I entirely agree with you.
as far as TDP goes, all you have to do is set TDP in in BIOS to 40 watts (what I use on my win3 anyway), then adjust in game settings, the system scales to demand.
Reducing resolution reduces CPU use (in modern games), reducing frame rate reduces CPU and GPU use, and reducing most effects reduces GPU use.
Setting you TDP by application will, at best, lessen the experience.
It's an amazing device and I'd love to have it but, for that price... no thanks. With that money you can buy a Switch lite with some amazing Sony heaphones like the 1000xM5 and top tier accessories with lots of games and even you can add a nice little emulation console like the Anbernic RG351M with a case and a microSD. In fact, that's exactly what I own, and I couldn't be happier with it. For big AAA games that are not on the Switch, I play on my PS4 or PC but, maybe if you don't own a console and you wanna play big AAA PC games on the go and budget is not a problem, maybe this could be a good choice.
Definitely see that the Steam Deck hits that balance of performance vs battery life
As much as this thing rips you still have to balance out how much you want to crank the 1080p graphics with how long the battery could last
I know right? there's no point in having so much power if you gonna just play it at low to save battery
Steam deck hits that balance of performance and battery life 😂😂😂😂. True but you speak as though the other handhelds don’t do the same. 15W on a steam deck is the same as 18 or 20 or even 25W on any other windows handheld with a larger battery. On the contrary, those other handhelds have better battery life and performance than the Steam deck. Go and do your research and you will agree with me
@@AugustineKusiDuah-bk4fr I'm not sure why you're coming off so combative...
Sure there are other handhelds with larger batteries, but that's means more weight
Sure you can have a higher watt target, but that's more heat which means a larger heatsink resulting in additional weight
At a certain point more resolution on a tiny screen has diminishing returns
Maybe for more frames with a higher refresh rate but anything that needs that I'm probably playing more seriously at my desktop, leaving the more casual experiences for the handheld
I am very interested in this or onexplayer 2. Unfortunately, car parts are a priority 😮💨. I want to get my rx8 done.
I really wish they had put a 6.5 inch display on this
Wow very slick and fancy, remember the ones that came out back in 04
Screens way too small not worth. Glad I got my AOKZOE and an external gpu and docking station if I ever wanna have a desktop feel. Otherwise I’m alll handheld baby 😈 lol
Ahh I badly want this 😩😩
I bought a steam deck not too long ago and I absolutely love it........ But gosh I am salivating over this. I want it so bad. I still think the PSP was one of the prettiest devices ever made, and the fact that this is in this form factor is so cool.
Steam OS should be more popular. Tbh it’s a console killer. You get all the advantages of pc like possibly to upgrade, better specs, variability and the comfort of simple UI which consoles have.
This is HoloISO? Do we have desktop mode in steamOS for this device? The streamlined steamOS experience is what really makes the steam deck special, IMO.
Happy holidays to you and the family...
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So now the only advantage steam deck still holds up is the entry level 64GB deck low price point? This is crazy how things are changed in such a short time frame! Can’t wait to see what they can do with Zen4 APUs!
I'd argue the ifixit relationship is a big bonus. Crack your steam deck screen 60 bucks gets you a new one. Crack this screen who knows how much or how long to fix. Also over a million users is another huge bonus. If you have a problem a simple search is much more likely to find a fix because of the user base, not to mention things like emudeck.
That entry level steam deck is as useful as a brick without a storage upgrade
Project CD Red...
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I don't know why, but I found that really funny.
I just ordered one of these for 25. I hope it's good
I mean I kind of hope it would be more powerful as it's literally double the price of a steam deck.
It is more powerful than the deck. Also, it being double the price doesn’t only come from the performance. Come on man, you are not buying only the chip you know. You are buying a whole device. The whole device is better than the deck
I ordered the 2024 model it looks great hopefully i will like it when i get it
Wow that little device plays spiderman While my laptop i7 gtx1070 lags 😅
You did a video on steam deck with a dock that booted it into windows while docked and steamOS while not. Any possibility of a dual boot on this?
Good video. I would probably stick with the Beta of Steam GamepadUI on Windows for this device. Looks pretty much like the exact thing except it running Linux . . . unless I am missing something. I am using GamePadUI on my main Windows machine and have had absolutely no issues so far.
Mainly its the fact that Steam OS 3 is less taxing on APU resources than Windows. But until Valve offically releases Steam OS 3 it won't be a viable alternative to Windows without some major tweaking.
Also how do the back buttons work on steamOS? Are you able to map them easily like you are on steam deck?
The question is what is performance and latency difference between windows 11 and steamos
It has almost no difference between SteamOS and Windows, but if so the Steam would be a little bit worse or outperform Windows. It has noticeable latency than Windows if you are very serious about it.
I'm a refresh rate junkie, would be cool to bump up the refresh rate to something like 90 or 100hz. I play older shooters mostly, and I would benefit me when the framerate is pretty much quadruple that, if not locked behind a hard frame cap.
Connect it to a higher refresh rate display
are you allowed to show the bios? no reviewer has shown that yet.
Merry Christmas
When you do your EGPU testing be sure to use at least a 3080 or a 6800xt as the 6800u can boost quite well when you're not using it for the GPU as well.
I would say a more mid range like 3060ti ,3070 or 6700xt, the cpu could handle bigger gpus but the usb4 connection bandwidth bottlenecks big time. And imo if you get like a more expensive gpu say close to $1000, you just might be better off building a pc and get better performance.
@n n ok. so for gpd 4 3070 is ok.
Can't wait for the PSP Go sized 6800U handheld. 🤞
@ETA PRIME For that in the gpd steam deck don't try Illusions adult games they have very heavy graphics and then you tell me if he lags a lot xD