LMM Miami 2023 - MkLeo (Marth, Lucina) Vs. Kurama (Mario) Smash Ultimate - SSBU
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- Опубликовано: 20 сен 2024
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On the deepest nightmares of Leo, there's a Mario
Min min too
kameme is the no1 Leo's nightmare
Brings back prodigy ptsd
Isn't Kurama just prodigy name change?
It does not even make sense at this point. He has beaten Kurama plenty and beat Superdog. So you would think he knows what to do but he keeps ending up in this situation. It is always a 3-0 when he loses too. What is that about
Fun fact: The duration of Prodigy vs. MKLeo at Frostbite 2020 was also 11 minutes!
Just in case anyone who is new and doesn't know prodigy = kurama
@@nicholas930 but is mkleo still mkleo
Only real Men plays Mario! Those other trash characters with sword like Lucina Roy etc are gay!
@@Shadragno😢
boo, get off the stage @@rafaelrobles5494
Leo’s win condition for tournaments is not having a mario in his bracket
Watching this as a marth player, that Mario just had a menacing untouchable aura about it- like any move from Leo was a bad one and that he was on the defensive the entire time
kursma was very paitent with parries but leo never adapted such a shame
@@BlueKnight788 yeah Kurama was abusing shield over and over and Leo was barely using neutral b or grab to take advantage of that. Leo only zeroed in on Kurama's overuse of spot dodges towards the end and was making greedy decisions and/or attacking Mario's shield with aerials which as Marth or Lucina is generally a poor option
Marth is more susceptible to parrying because his tipper range makes him predictable. @@angelperezmonarrez9892
It’s like Kurama always manages to pick the best option in almost every situation
Second i saw this my jaw dropped. Leo vs kurama is instant fear for his bracket lmfao
Leo is not scared of anyone or any character. He just finds certain characters (like mario, min min) annoying.
@@thelordoftheweebs9501He can find them annoying and he can be afraid to fight them due to these two characters giving him trouble, especially Mario.
@@thelordoftheweebs9501 Shuton 🤑
@@thelordoftheweebs9501 lol glazing so hard
7:39 Kurama knew exactly what he was doing. going to the ledge like that when you don’t need to. legendary play. don’t take this kid to ps2 lol
good catch, he dropped off the stage on purpose, crazy smart kid
Going to disavtange on purpose to gain an advantage on your oppenent... wow Karama is a crazy smart player
He wanted to whiff punish Marth, but there was not enough stage to do so, so he puts himself in the corner use corner options to find the punish
Idk why he forced himself to go to PS2 3 times in a row. Obviously battlefield and small battlefield would get bans but if he lost then he could’ve taken him to maybe Town and City or something lol
He did not mean to do that lol… this game isn’t as crazy complex as some perceive
7:36 is the most disrespectful ass bait I’ve ever seen. Kurama straight up just walked off stage to get Leo to try to push his advantage and killed him off of it. Dastardly play.
Honestly shocked . Granted, who would’ve thought he’d normal get up into D•Tilt . Must’ve been the last thing Leo thought would happen
10:34 Leo hitting with the pivot fsmash
10:53 Kurama hitting back with the same thing 20 seconds later
The very last stock of the set, Kurama kills MK leo with the same empty movement into fsmash that Leo killed him with the stock right before at 10:35 😂
He was like “Hey I got those too thank you for reminding me”
Parry into death. Mario classic
Parry Counter:
MkLeo: 5
Kurama: 17
Bonus:
Leo Sweet Spot Hits: 18
Big Leo fan but the commentators talked about the parrying so much I figured it’s worth noting
ty bro, bless
Because this mu is even lol. Swords do not beat Mario.
bro coming with the NBA stats love to see it
Kurama was just guessing, all marios live rent free in shield. Leo only went for a single shield break
good work 🫡
I think this set perfectly encapsulates where we are in Smash Ultimate’s meta right now and how important it is to have a strong punish game. Leo is still an incredible player fundamentally, but doesn’t have the optimized punish games needed to really make characters like Joker and Marth really shine under his fundamentals. On the other hand, Kurama’s punish game with Mario is nothing short of absolutely lethal and his fundamentals are still excellent, only bolstered by PS2 being an amazing stage for Mario.
Yeah man i see what you mean when i saw 2:05
no offense, but i can't really imagine Leo being able to totally flip pressure off of a parry like that.
and kurama did it twice basically consecutively !!
Marth won't shine, period, but most meta-relevant characters aren't combo fiends.
@@nathanlevesque7812Marth can do well. At this point no one can say anything for certain considering how random supposedly bad characters are doing better than ever
Yeah though will say Leo lately has been dropping the ball when it comes to neutral. Even in this set, Kurama would pretty much always either Short hop or Dash shield at Leo, anytime he did a dash dance and Leo pretty much never committed to an option that counters those two options.
I just don't think his heart is in it anymore and the huge decline starting at Ludwig's invitational shows it. Man proved he's the best, and probably is just gonna coast going forward (fingers crossed for genesis 10)
I have faith every single tournament that Leo will play as insane as he used to, but then he gets placements like 13th and 17th and it makes it really difficult to have any faith that he will even make it to top 8
He won't. Leo is done for and he doesn't take the game as serious as he did before. He doesn't spam the joker or Byleth. Instead he goes a discount version of Aegis, a troll marth who we overrate. How can he win, he cant. He should drop the Marth and train corrin who has had excellent results lately.
@@Yokai_Yuriand because you know all that for a fact you are ranked at what spot?
@@darkdraconisYou don't need to be a pro to have knowledge. That's such a tired, boomer mindset.
@@silvos8903 "you don't need to be a pro to have knowledge" If you claim to know BETTER than a pro then yes you need to be a pro...
Get your head out of that "everyone that has an oposing opinion is a boomer" mindest.
Really boomerl-like from you
@@darkdraconis the existence of analysts, coaches, scouts, ect, in esports means it's not an opinion but a fact. I know it's hard to admit being wrong, but you'll get there someday kiddo.
Marth's tipper up-air not killing a ~100% Mario at double jump height, when Mario gets 2x down-air kills at the same height on a ~100% Marth is kinda criminal.
I had the exact same thought
Buff Marth damage
I don’t understand why Leo is so insistent on PS2 bro. He’s dying sub 80 at least once a game bc of platforms + low ceiling
Right? He can set up edgeguards so much better on small battlefield or hollow bastion
Ego
What’s annoying is looking at the sets leo beat kurama he always counterpicks stages the only time he beat kurama going all ps2 was when he went aegis against him at MainStage
Kurama is incredible.
I wonder what would happen if Leo picks up Corrin alongside Joker instead of Marth. On paper it seems more ideal because it would not only help him with the Mario and Kazuya matchup but also help him against the Sonic and Steve match-up
Nothing, it’s player dif, not matchups
@rojastgh3 but if he goes with Corrin instead of Marth in this current line-up he won't have to whip out the Aegis for the annoying Sonic matchups etc. Basically trying to minimize the characters he has to play so that he can focus more time on each of them. Maybe my comment wasn't really related to this set in particular but it was moreso me thinking out loud after seeing these ongoing Mkleo upsets
@@gerardoortega323They aren’t upsets anymore.
@@gerardoortega323I think Leo would rather have fun at this point. Which I find very respectable
leo already tried his luck with joker against kurama, got 3-0d
I always am rooting for the Mario players since Mario is my favorite character, I love spectating these matches. Nice set!
Miku fan too? You basic for that
@@memenazi7078 i'm happy with what i like, i don't mind being basic
@@NaokiMiku19own that fraud🔥💯
2:20 this man was still in the bair end lag, Kurama hits the parry and turns it into a full stock conversion 😭
THATS some high level smash for you
What is Mario’s worst matchup? We have to tell Leo
I think it was Shulk because of Barrier Montado messing with combos
Mario's worst match-up is Shulk, but I highly doubt Leo would consider picking him now given how hard he is.
Sword fighters in general are really good against mario but i have no clue how kurama makes it work even against the likes of spargo
@@wuhhlfarg5578not "really good"
Mario doesnt really have bad matchups, all it depends on is how easier it is to get his Combos going. Characters like Shulk are the exeptions.
@@Alexrun902 overrated character. Shield Monado doesn't win games and outside of that he's not good.
In cqc. Mario wins that mu
Mario is generally one of my less favorite characters to watch, but Kurama specifically is something special
We all wish ultimate had one last patch 😂
Bro i cant believe some people in the comments think mario wins in most swordie mus 💀
Kurama is just that good.
Went from sweeping the Mario gauntlet at Major Upset to this.
Dude Leo has a serious Mario problem but dude kurama played godlike
This has to be the fastest I’ve ever seen Leo be taken out of (supposedly) winners pools in a tournament. Like, HOLY SHIT.
GGs tho, was cool to see him pull out the Marth.
I think onin(pocket) actually has that
Gane o pierda Leo, siempre será un espectáculo verlo jugar.🇲🇽
Nel ya no
@@netowgtz tal vez para tí no pero pará mí y muchos más sí.
@@SEBAS-97 el ya tiene su legado, siempre es genial ver a una leyenda.
Wow Mario fr the true protagonist
To think Leo destroyed Superdog some weeks ago,Kurama is on another level
Dayum. That was Prime Mario playing. Very composed.
Aunque Leo haya Sido destruido por Kurama, me alegro de haber visto a su Lucina por primera vez en un torneo.🖤
Te alegra ver la arrastrada que le dieron con esa Lucina que solo fue a meter las tapas!?
Tranquilo bro!, solo es un juego, el principal objetivo es entretener a las personas como cualquier juego, yo nunca dije que me alegraba que le hayan dado una arrastrada, sólo dije que me alegro por su aparición en el comienzo del tercer juego, no hay por qué tomarse les cosas tan enserio y mucho menos pensar en lo negativo.
Y será la última vez que la use! Mejor que vuelva a seguir buscando la gloria con sus personajes rotos
@@Asapboy81
Marth roto? 😂😂😂
@@Asapboy81 XD, te molesta que el tenga un legado y tu no?
Leo was so predictable with his aerials and not enough dancing blade was used to beat out those parries. His DI/SDI also needs a lot of work. He still has a lot to work on but I believe in him.
Yeah plus mixup Dairs are often Marth's best landing option esp for anti-parry timing, pancake landing, and high reward. He did none of that. But still Kurama wasn't going to let him even do that for long before adapting
Marth/Lucina combos: *strings of different moves put together along with good spacing*
Every single kurama combo: up air, up air, up air, up air, up air, up air, up air, up air, up air, up air, up air, up b
Yeah because Mario combos are fucking crack. If you have a reliable option, why wouldn't you abuse it
Bro watched his first Kurama set☠️ to think this is his only combo
I just wanna see more Corrin from him. Shadic is getting results and Leo would be amazing with the character.
Going back to his old mains, imagine he suddenly uses Ike and Cloud again
Leo having nightmares of getting sent into Losers by Skinny The Pooh off-stream at Rise N Grind. That set made him vow to never play Joker against Mario ever again.
Leo... Byleth exists too, you know...
I don't think there was a single character who could have saved Leo from this incineration.
This wasn't a character issue. Kurama was just playing better.
I love Leo but bro really thought he was Banham with the Lucina
(Yes im aware Leo has played Lucina before and was once considered one of, if not the best Lucina players)
Weird
Cette perf de la part de Kurama serieux
I'm surprised Leo is not tired of losing. Tweek started to lose & he pretty much made a full recovery after a training arc.
I hope Mkleo returns to form, but it'll take a minute... 🙏
Leo's is kinda like Melee's Mang0. They get burned out after grinding and winning for years. Then they fall off hard and come back to top positions, but not top 1#
I think Leo wants to have fun and enjoy life more
I'm confused as to why Leo did not choose Byleth? Has he dropped him or am I missing something?
KURAMA MAKING THIS MATCHUP LOOK SO EASY
I guess it's easy if you know how to space better than the marth and Parry but,
Mario's just got his short stubby Italian limbs while Marth got his big ass sword, how do you ever approach this man?
Seems Kurama just opted for the run up shield and hope that Marth throws out a random button for parry punish into 0 to death combo.
I mean yea Leo was super predictable with his landing aerials on his shield
@@geraltrivia9565 I didn't wanna be one of those guys who tries to think they know more than a professional player, but I do agree that that's what it seemed like. It felt like he was doing autopilot moves while Kurama was super focused
Its literally even...
and Marth does not have a "big sword"
Almost no FE Char has, its disjoints "being the problem" and not range. Half the Cast can outrange Swordies
Most of Marios Move don't have a problem to atleast trade with Marth
Marth has to work harder to actually keep Mario off and get actual combos while miss spacing once gets you to 70%
@@juliendreemurr654 cap
when i say big sword i mean in comparison to mario limbs. If you're telling me Marth Foward tilt vs any of mario's moves other than his projectiles is a good trade then idk man.
If the mario knows/is playing the matchup better than a Marth and he gets in, he definitely can wreak havoc just as Kurama did. But Marth definitely has the tools to keep him out, but it's just not as simple as just autopiloting buttons on shield cuz if that Mario is proficient at Parry punishes then you'll see something similar to what happens in this vid.
Marth already is one of those characters that matchups are volatile anyways because you need to already be a god at spacing and punishes in order to utilize his tippers. If not, you're literally just playing worse Lucina.
@@GoharioFTW I know what you meant and i know where you got that flawed logic from + you said it right after.
If you think just because 1 move outranges Mario means everything outranges him then thats pathetic.
You only would use this flawed logic when you know im right.
Leo needs to lose the GF and gain back the weight to get back to full power.
Exactly! Smash bros before the hoes!!!
lol na just let him play Marth eventually he'll start winning majors with him.
I can't find the video of MkLeo vs. Shadic, was it recorded?
kurama is fuckin nuts he did so good this tournament, kid’s getting consistent top 10s at super majors and he’s for sure gonna win someday
Take a drink every time Kurama gets a parry.
What is kurama on how tf did he destroy mkleo
Kurama jamás perdonara a Leo lo qué le hizo en los últimos tres encuentros.
Frostbite 2020 Part 2!
5:33 Kurama comes down, parry, grabs into up air combos, grabs AGAIN into up air combos, Leo’s now at 70% Kurama is COOKING 🧑🏻🍳
Everyone else struggles on Steve matchup and Leo is still trying to figure out the Mario matchup lmao.
MA-RI-O....MA-RI-O...MA-RI-O....MA-RI-O .....MA-RI-O...Kurama is SICK!!!!🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Love to see the Marth
He does suck in ultimate though
@@EarthUPChe doesn’t suck you just gotta have immaculate spacing and micro spacing and control of the stage he’s just technical.
@@megachris2610yea and being an extremely technical character in ultimate is a net negative
@@Gabi-nq7vz true i main sora and I used to main peach and you gotta just dedicate to the character eventually it pays off for you regardless
How did MkLeo go from beating 3 consecutive Mario players (including Kurama) at MAJOR UPSET to this 😭 and he beat all of them with Aegis too… bro?
Kurama has been my fav player since frost bite 2020. Sick match
Guys as you can see Leo was tired, had cold hands and wasn't even trying. No copium I swear
(big mkleo fan btw)
How can we see if Leo have cold hands?🤔
Also a leo fan btw
I feel like the key to fighting Leo involves air to airing his jumps with faster aerials
6:21 parried ftilt at 30% into death
Leo’s just trying to have fun, really think he got bored of solo joker and doesn’t care about winning that much
I’m a Leo fan and a Marth fan but this isn’t right. DONT GO TO PS2 AGAINST KURAMA
I don’t even watch competitive smash that much. I just adore kurama
can leo beat a mario lol
Well he did beat Kurama back at Crown the Third, granted he went byleth
@@smokeybeartx2001then why didnt he go byleth this time ??
@@gabriieIl cause people gas light him into using Marth lmao
@@BladeVoltzhis byleth got shat on by superdog
Marvelous Matchups, Edge of my seat
Here we go again
Kurama was off his game for these past few months but when he gets back on the horse he goes full Man in Black mode
Said it before; Kurama got Leo down.
The h2h chart clearly showed leo was up 1.
Shocked no Byleth
I’ve lost faith in Marth. The coolest sword character is ass. I hate this game sometimes lol.
I hope Leo can prove me wrong and win with Marth but on the other hand, I want Mkleo to play better characters and succeed more.
It’s wild that leo watched himself get laddered off the top 3 times in game 2 and think that the problem was the character and not the stage
more like the player was the problem, you dont see that combo consistency from anyone else other than the best mario himself
Wahoo yahoo yippee yippee wahoooo!
The more i watch videos of this tournament the more i realize how big house 11 was TRASH
bruh big house 11 is supposed to be a melee tournament 😭 its never been big for ultimate
@@carloss7655What is this meme? TBH9 was a supermajor and 10 was a major. 11 was a shitty regional due to the top players dropping out.
@@Anthon1996and what was melee in comparison. Lol. Shut up.
@@Anthon1996that’s on ult players for not being serious about their game, not big house?
Holy smash! I have never seen something parry so many moves!
Take a shot every time Mario parries 😂
Kurama sick wit it
Washed af
MKLeo loss because of his stubbornness to not change stages. Mario benfits from PS2 waaaay more than Marth does. Him not changing stages literally lost him this game.
Been a min since I watched smash. A lot has changed
Remember when Leo’s fans used to request to ban DLCs because he didn’t have a chance? Well…
Let’s go Kurama!!!
JAJAAJA se la regreso el Fsmash en NormalGetUp, sorry leo... mario is your demon
Please Leo I beg of you...atop taking Mario to PS2.
Ultra instinct parrys sheesh
I wonder for how much longer the sets where Mkleo gets upset will get so much views
They aren’t upsets anymore lmao
I wonder why Mkleo always has a difficult time playing against Mario? It's crazy it doesn't matter what character he uses its still a challenge lol
Light Spoiler
Eye for an eye, f-smash for and f-smash lol
That’s the benefit of keeping your main.
Leo perdió "el toque" desde que dejó de ser v1rg3n... su enfoque está en otro lado.
No en varios directos se ponia de arrogante diciendo que si usaba a joker volvería a estar en la sima asi que no simplemente todos ya son mas fuertes que el
Lol
Leo finally remembered that lucina is on the roster, but it was too late
Hard to read bc he’s so fast and is aiming to be in your center always !
Are these confirms supposed to be killing or is Leo's DI suspect
From what I've seen in the past usually marios ladders usually don't kill so often
I actually think the answer should be Byleth again
Leo counterpicked a low ceiling stage. Game 1 maybe acceptable. Not game 2 if you lost there in game 1 specifically to the ceiling. Lost to the ceiling again game 2, all three stocks, because what else
Marios the best character
My secondary main.
This is just such a random character for Leo to be bad against I’ve never understood it
Im glad Kurama is the actual face of Mario representation at Top level and not Dark Wizzy.
dark wizzy is not even a top 3 mario atp
@@NaughtyPigMario But he still says he is best Mario, lol.
@@day5450nah he claimed that kurama is the best, he is humble now
incredible how kurama can decimate the best player in the world using mario’s WORST matchup in the game, insane performances from kurama never disappoints.
Leo is not the best player in the world and hasnt been for damn near two years bruh. He's not bad but he's a lot closer to Kurama is skill now and Kurama just has a better punish game
Bad stage choice + there were so many situations where MKLEO shouldve used up B out of shield.
wanted a frostbite repeat, got a frostbite repeat lets go chat.
This is a classic match up
Leo didn't try to gimp Kurama enough. Simple as that.
I think leo didnt try a single offstage counter, but it could be that kurama is that good at mixing up recovery options
Let's say this MU is even. My question is why? Why is Mario overtuned and Marth undertuned to the point that this MU is even? This MU should be Mario's nightmare. But no, all he has to do is dash into shield, parry, and convince his opponent to take him to a low ceiling stage. Dash to shield was big for Mario in the MU in the last smash game too. Really good perfect shields from Kurama though, well done!!!