You should build a ground mounted array easier to keep panels clean and service and make the array adjustable to adjust to the seasons and will produce more power . With your wood skills and saw mill you could make an awesome array . Life Uncontained Channel in Texas built an adjustable array
Im also in E TN, we are 100% on solar, i installed our whole system so if you need any help or have any questions feel free to reach out, im also an affiliate of signature solar so in the future i can save you some money with my link if you need anything else from them
I THINK you have enough room in that attic space to accommodate the inverters and batteries etc. That way they would be close and any heating needed could cover all of it...
I probably do, but I don’t want to have to cool and heat the second floor that building if I don’t have to because I’m not going to insulate that billing like I did the cabin up here since it’s just a barn/workshop. So not really sure but have a feeling that that equipment will probably have its own place.
good video you have much better help than me. the ones i have on the roof do not produre much power and if it snows they need to be cleaned off. i think on the south wall may be better. i think the power house is a good idea in case of battery fire. i wish you the best of luck take care, be safe and well
Wishing you all the best with your new Solar Equipment. Sounds as though you have some back-up help you can call on which is great. Come on WOODMISER got to get some milling done so I can get things done. Stay safe and keep up the great videos. Fred.
Lol, yeah, that new sawmill has pretty much put everything on hold. However, we think maybe the first week in July, which is actually next week we might hear some good news.
Not really sure we’re still wrestling with that idea. I’m not concerned with trying to get the maximum out of that system because I’ll probably never use its potential anyway. So I don’t know Irene will have to wait and see what we decide.
Richard in the bifacial solar panels they cannot be flush on the roof, as the back side to absorb sunlight reflected off of surfaces like the ground. Installing them flat on a roof can cause problem that shortens the life and generation capacity of the solar panels. These solar panels require that you keep the largest passable gap between the panels and the roof. Flush mounting of bifacial solar panels can cause the to over heat and heat up the roof under them. You are better off building a carport next to your sawmill or shop where the underside of the panels are capable of capturing the light or a solar array system where the panels back side is open and have full air flow. Monofacial panels is what is required for flush mounting on the roof as you are talking about, in the way you are talking, where as bifacial solar panels require a special mounting system to hold them because of the of their design, a special rail system, like Lumnah acres has. Also bifacial solar panels require increase maintenance which include cleaning at least once a month, other wise the build up a film on the panel that reduces the efficiency. OG&E has bifacial solar panels in their solar farm at the Mustang power plant and they have a employee whose sole job keep the panels clean. so are you willing once a month to climb on the roof and clean the solar panels, these are not a install and forget like the Monofacial panels, as they require regular maintenance to keep them at peek performance, and the proper angle to the sun by seasons you need to be able to adjust the panels to these angles Spring: 29.6° Summer: 14.6° Fall: 29.6° Winter: 44.6° or have a an static angel of 29.6° from horizontal. In the winter months you need the steper angle to have peak performance in your area of Tennessee. You will be dissatisfied with your solar system as so many are who go with a flat mount on the roof wit the improper solar angle.
I think I will do a video on my plan and why. I don’t want it looking like a drive in theater mounted on the ground. They are so huge, about my only choice is roof mounted. And the frame will be angled somewhat. I am looking for about 35-40 degree non-positional. I believe they can be cleaned from the ground with a pole. We will have to see as we go. Still looking at options
@@OutpostReview On the bifacial both sides have to be cleaned, not just the sun facing surface, and the underside will attract dust particles and soot. In the Cosby TN area the fixed year round angle is 29.6 degrees and angle greater than that will rob your spring, Summer and Fall energy production and you will take a big hit on the Winter energy production. You will also want to mount the panels on Steel or Aluminum Unitruss so all the panels in each array can be ground and bonded together in the array, which will be connected to a grounding rod separate from the inverter Grounding and Bonding, this is for lighting protection. Solar panels are lighting magnets, as is all power generation systems. On your inverter how many arrays does it support? Because on the shop saw mill where you are talking about installing the panels you will need at least 3 arrays, one for each roof slope. I have done a lot of research into solar systems and proper grounding and bonding is very important for safe operation of the system, and compliance with the National electrical codes,.
I’m assuming you paid extra for the bi-facial panels, if so you’re wasting your money by mounting them flat against the roof. Just my opinion. If you’re not using solar racking you will have to bond each individual panel together and ground them. I always use #6 bare copper. I always ground mount if I can. Maintenance is much easier
They were included in the deal. I was originally going to mount them on the ground, but since they are so huge, I need to get them out of my way so that I have more room up here on the side of the mountain. I am going to run one ground wire up, and since they will all be bolted together, I can just ground one of them. I didn’t intend on using the bi facial portion since it only generates very little. My roof angle is already at 20°. I’m going to lift the backside up slightly and that’s the way that they will be. Hopefully they will work well enough for our needs. I thought that building a pressure-treated 2 x 4 frame and bolting that to the roof would probably hold a whole lot better than the Metal hardware available that I’m leery about using on my metal roof.
@@OutpostReview I use to have a solar installation company. If I were you I’d use unistrut to mount the panels together Much better than wood. If you’re only raising the panels a few degrees from the roof pitch I wouldn’t bother. The juice isn’t worth the squeeze. General rule of thumb is tilt should be close to your latitude. I mounted mine at 35 degrees which is a good angle for summer and winter and I’m at 44 degrees latitude.
@@OutpostReview Have you looked into a company called S-5? They specialize in mounting hardware for metal roofing. I installed 80KW on a standing seam roof with zero penetrations. They are excellent
Bifacial solar panels are not recommended for flat install and if installed on a roof, they require a large space under them for proper air cooling, other wise they have a degraded life, and can over heat the roof under them, these panes operate at a much higher temperature. than a monofacial solar panel and the Bifacial have much more intensive Maintenance requirement than monofacial. In his area he will need a 29.6 degree roof slope for a fixed panel in his area of Tennessee
You should build a ground mounted array easier to keep panels clean and service and make the array adjustable to adjust to the seasons and will produce more power . With your wood skills and saw mill you could make an awesome array . Life Uncontained Channel in Texas built an adjustable array
I think I will do a video on my plans and why. Hope you have a good weekend
@@OutpostReviewRichard, whatever you do, make them adjustable.
I definitely agree with this. Because in winter you want to be able to clean snow off.
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Ciao buon fine settimana.
Thank you
Im also in E TN, we are 100% on solar, i installed our whole system so if you need any help or have any questions feel free to reach out, im also an affiliate of signature solar so in the future i can save you some money with my link if you need anything else from them
We hope to start on it as soon as new mill gets here. 👍
@@OutpostReview its simple especially now because the technology has changed so much
I THINK you have enough room in that attic space to accommodate the inverters and batteries etc. That way they would be close and any heating needed could cover all of it...
I probably do, but I don’t want to have to cool and heat the second floor that building if I don’t have to because I’m not going to insulate that billing like I did the cabin up here since it’s just a barn/workshop. So not really sure but have a feeling that that equipment will probably have its own place.
Seems like you have a great group of friends to help out with the solar system.
Yes, always make good friends and take care of them because you never know when they may be of help.
good video you have much better help than me. the ones i have on the roof do not produre much power and if it snows they need to be cleaned off. i think on the south wall may be better. i think the power house is a good idea in case of battery fire. i wish you the best of luck take care, be safe and well
There are (16) 400 watt panels. Should be enough for me and the dogs I hope
Wishing you all the best with your new Solar Equipment. Sounds as though you have some back-up help you can call on which is great. Come on WOODMISER got to get some milling done so I can get things done. Stay safe and keep up the great videos. Fred.
Lol, yeah, that new sawmill has pretty much put everything on hold. However, we think maybe the first week in July, which is actually next week we might hear some good news.
Enjoyed watching
Glad you enjoyed
@@OutpostReview what would a system like that cost?
Your not going to know what to do with all the solar power lol great addition
That’s for sure because I’m used to living without it so like you said not really sure what I’m gonna do with it
Looks like it was shipped upside down to me " I am old school though ".
lol, me too
Traditionally, the arrow on packaging should be accompanied by the phrase ; “This End Up “ Without that phrase , who knows what it means ? LOL
I totally agree.
This way to hell.😊
Will they stay installed in one place or will they be able to move depending on the position of the sun?
Not really sure we’re still wrestling with that idea. I’m not concerned with trying to get the maximum out of that system because I’ll probably never use its potential anyway. So I don’t know Irene will have to wait and see what we decide.
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Thank you Jose
Richard in the bifacial solar panels they cannot be flush on the roof, as the back side to absorb sunlight reflected off of surfaces like the ground. Installing them flat on a roof can cause problem that shortens the life and generation capacity of the solar panels. These solar panels require that you keep the largest passable gap between the panels and the roof. Flush mounting of bifacial solar panels can cause the to over heat and heat up the roof under them.
You are better off building a carport next to your sawmill or shop where the underside of the panels are capable of capturing the light or a solar array system where the panels back side is open and have full air flow.
Monofacial panels is what is required for flush mounting on the roof as you are talking about, in the way you are talking, where as bifacial solar panels require a special mounting system to hold them because of the of their design, a special rail system, like Lumnah acres has.
Also bifacial solar panels require increase maintenance which include cleaning at least once a month, other wise the build up a film on the panel that reduces the efficiency.
OG&E has bifacial solar panels in their solar farm at the Mustang power plant and they have a employee whose sole job keep the panels clean.
so are you willing once a month to climb on the roof and clean the solar panels, these are not a install and forget like the Monofacial panels, as they require regular maintenance to keep them at peek performance, and the proper angle to the sun by seasons you need to be able to adjust the panels to these angles Spring: 29.6° Summer: 14.6° Fall: 29.6° Winter: 44.6° or have a an static angel of 29.6° from horizontal. In the winter months you need the steper angle to have peak performance in your area of Tennessee.
You will be dissatisfied with your solar system as so many are who go with a flat mount on the roof wit the improper solar angle.
I think I will do a video on my plan and why. I don’t want it looking like a drive in theater mounted on the ground. They are so huge, about my only choice is roof mounted. And the frame will be angled somewhat. I am looking for about 35-40 degree non-positional. I believe they can be cleaned from the ground with a pole. We will have to see as we go. Still looking at options
@@OutpostReview On the bifacial both sides have to be cleaned, not just the sun facing surface, and the underside will attract dust particles and soot.
In the Cosby TN area the fixed year round angle is 29.6 degrees and angle greater than that will rob your spring, Summer and Fall energy production and you will take a big hit on the Winter energy production.
You will also want to mount the panels on Steel or Aluminum Unitruss so all the panels in each array can be ground and bonded together in the array, which will be connected to a grounding rod separate from the inverter Grounding and Bonding, this is for lighting protection. Solar panels are lighting magnets, as is all power generation systems.
On your inverter how many arrays does it support?
Because on the shop saw mill where you are talking about installing the panels you will need at least 3 arrays, one for each roof slope.
I have done a lot of research into solar systems and proper grounding and bonding is very important for safe operation of the system, and compliance with the National electrical codes,.
Who knows Richard, Mr. COOL might have AC in your future. One luxury you forgot to mention was maybe a microwave
I had a microwave, lol, and when I moved I got rid of most appliances like it knowing I wasn’t going to be set up like I was used to.
I’m assuming you paid extra for the bi-facial panels, if so you’re wasting your money by mounting them flat against the roof. Just my opinion. If you’re not using solar racking you will have to bond each individual panel together and ground them. I always use #6 bare copper. I always ground mount if I can. Maintenance is much easier
They were included in the deal. I was originally going to mount them on the ground, but since they are so huge, I need to get them out of my way so that I have more room up here on the side of the mountain. I am going to run one ground wire up, and since they will all be bolted together, I can just ground one of them. I didn’t intend on using the bi facial portion since it only generates very little. My roof angle is already at 20°. I’m going to lift the backside up slightly and that’s the way that they will be. Hopefully they will work well enough for our needs. I thought that building a pressure-treated 2 x 4 frame and bolting that to the roof would probably hold a whole lot better than the Metal hardware available that I’m leery about using on my metal roof.
@@OutpostReview I use to have a solar installation company. If I were you I’d use unistrut to mount the panels together Much better than wood. If you’re only raising the panels a few degrees from the roof pitch I wouldn’t bother. The juice isn’t worth the squeeze. General rule of thumb is tilt should be close to your latitude. I mounted mine at 35 degrees which is a good angle for summer and winter and I’m at 44 degrees latitude.
@@OutpostReview Have you looked into a company called S-5? They specialize in mounting hardware for metal roofing. I installed 80KW on a standing seam roof with zero penetrations. They are excellent
Bifacial solar panels are not recommended for flat install and if installed on a roof, they require a large space under them for proper air cooling, other wise they have a degraded life, and can over heat the roof under them, these panes operate at a much higher temperature. than a monofacial solar panel and the Bifacial have much more intensive Maintenance requirement than monofacial.
In his area he will need a 29.6 degree roof slope for a fixed panel in his area of Tennessee