it'd be cool to show the other good SR weapons such as the Radiru Bow, Orb, demon spear etc. I wanna be able to tell the differences between those and the SSRs
I'm glad you did this. People in Natto toxic discord tried to tell me Scythe damage is not great. I just feel bad for the guy that has a A3 Scythe not including the free one his first day. But he was told to reroll to get a plum sword because the scythe is "trash".
The problem with Scythe isn't that it's damage is low, it's that there isn't currently any content where it's better then Plum + Moonshadow. So it is kinda trash currently.
im happy you did some retesting. esp giving the scythe a little more justice than it deserved from earlier today. and yes the bow puts up insane numbers with its core dmg i got it to a5 three days ago and its core is crazy.
Man I appreciate the hell outta you for this. Doing damage test like this can be so time consuming and slightly frustrating. Like you said I hope the devs can find this video and do some proper adjustments to weapons so the game can have some more variety at late game stages
Thnx for info bro. Imagine fighting the same fkin fatchna 45 times. Can't imagine doing that. Appreciate it man. And I must say this is informative as I was levelling up scythe n grimore so I know what to do now.
Weapons should scale based on a some percentage of your main character. No matter if it’s attack or overall. That way, you could use any weapon you wanted.
@@freefolkgaming that part. Lol Since I’m anti beneficial to netmarble, let’s go on and add marvel vs capcom style team combos! Really spice things up lol
Not to mention that Plum increased dark damage by 25 and Crit chance and crit dmg of the next weapon skill sttack, so I think you should omly run 1 weapon
@PayneBlade No I wouldn't, but I don't always use plum. So I'd want to know how much damage the weapon does in of itself as well as with the #1 partner weapon. Still aprpeciate the testing, hwoever
What do u think about the good SR weapons ? Like orb of avar or west wind etc west wind is obviously the best wind weapon but what about orb of ava for small spenders or f2p ? For example i have orb at A10 while i have bow at A1 , which one is better u think ?
zekes #1 as i thought xD i've been doing some testing recently and it seems like the DPS weapon of choice for "burst-heavy" content, close to 30 million dmg proc's of the drop ability with full buffs
People sleeping on moonshadow the only weapon that was heavily nerfed due to the test not including shadow steps and still ranked 5th even tho its a ''support weapon'' the whole point that moonshadow debuff is 3 sec only is cause you can reapply through shadow steps
Moonshadow is my fave weapon because of the shadow step damage increase. I have it at A4 and between shadow step and that I had a high orc slowed down for a crazy amount of time
2 Hours at least putting into this video. How many Shadow Steps you instinctively activated by accident and had to restart ? Thank you for the content! I'd say to everyone this is an informative content and should not discourage or triggers anyone with their preferred weapons. See you on the stream!
Ur not using Phoenix bow at its max potential. U can dash and then use the core attack of the Phoenix bow to do more damage like. Dash>skill>dash>core atk>dash>core atk this is the max potential i think and can u re test Phoenix bow doing this pls. Thank U!
First of all, there is no mention in the Phoenix bow weapon description anywhere that dashing followed by core deals higher dmg, so I am assuming the dashing is to activate amplifying draw, if so, amplifying draw only enhances skill dmg, which is the weapon skill itself so it doesn't affect core dmg at all. secondly, even if I am wrong and amplifying draw does increase core atk as well, then in an actual fight, it's not even possible to use it to its "max potential" as you mentioned when dashes are so precious in end game content, using 3 dash jus to activate phoenix skill and core is just not viable, not to mention the fact that if pairing with plum, you need to dash to full bloom making it 4 dashes to use plum and phoenix in just ONE rotation, dash takes about 2-3 seconds to be up and the max dash is only 3 by default, it is only possible to do 4 dashes whenever using plum and phoenix if you don't attempt to dodge and that's meant not using shadow step which would be ironic as to reach max potential for phoenix bow, you are sacrificing the max potential for maximum damage by using shadow step. lastly, in end game content, you would need to dodge most of the time as each atk is fatal enough to kill especially when equipping curse artifacts or blessings like chains of blood, double edge sword, or even boss slayer which increases dash cooldown, and also weapon like scythe which also increase dmg taken. all in all, your method is only viable if dash is unlimited, and even so amplifying draw doesn't increase core atk( I may be wrong but I am fairly certain it only increases skill dmg and not core) so what Payne is doing for phoenix is the right move
@@francois8059 the core attack doesn't get the skill damage boost but still get the 32% increase in crit rate and crit dmg with a3 plum and there is a blessing that's gives 1 extra dash and it's good for pod
@@celebritiecelebrities2888 ohhh, I totally forgot about that, you are right but Iike you said, I think it’s only good for pod where survival is not an issue at high lvl, outside of that in any hard hitting content, I still don’t think it’s good to use 5 dashes( 1 for shadow step, 1 for full bloom, 3 for Phoenix) in one rotation but it’s just my opinion and Ofc I respect yours too.
Well well well......now you guys know why I was denying about sychthe being in low tier than other weapons in ranking teir in weapons video .........😂😂😂every people was arguing about my decision but now you know how powerful it is as a dps
@@PayneBlade yeah payne but the point I was talking about is how much of a beast is for f2p players in terms of damage .....people just ignoring the damage of it like it is a dumb weapon is intolerable
Hi Payne, does it mean that Zeke is better when paired with Moonshadow instead of Plum? Thank you, and much appreciation for the hard work you put into every video.
Pls Netmarble...I really want a proper Buff for DKL as somehow it's my first a5 without even being in my list for draws and it's my fav weapon from the manhwa
for the demon sword all going for the counter , and on you test , because you sung die quick you not tested that , but if you test with all time counter i'm sure this do much better damage
it is disguting the powercreep, i am not even sure if i go after zeke a5 is good because next week scythe can be buffed and be better again, every week they change to make us spend more and more, disguting.
Looks like my f2p resources almost depletes 😂😂 still a1 Alicia. I need her to be a5 ASAP. Instead i got my Cha after 3 long month without her and she's a1 too. Idk if i should be thanksfull or not but hmmm idk
Have u considered that Zeke's and scythe with plum have more dark dmg from passive so they have higher number ? If that is the case then the bow is the strongest or second strongest
The problem is not making a new meta The problem is nerfing the same meta which was before Like we are going to step into light and dark meta and nerfing the old light character like cha hae😭😭😭 Because if they wanna change meta every month no problem 5 metas will exist and we will be in a cycle and will be using the old characters and weapons but nerfing the old characters and weapons every time the meta changes so that only the new ones can clear the meta will make the game a junk box filled with random things I think when jeju island raid comes it will be another water meta and they will nerf alicia like cha and goto ryuji will be the new powerful water character 😭😭
Yo, Payne Do all the artifacts drop rate is same on instances??? I rarely very rarely get Expert set!!!. For some reason every single run they keep giving me concentration of fire power or outstanding connection. It's like the game dont want me to give expert at all!!!!!!!
Wouldn't testing the weapons without plum as the secondary be better then? I'd assume that dark weapons have an advantage by default when you have a5 or higher plum
Yo payne, just wondering why not just use one weapon? I know that in game we'll be almost always pairing with plum sword but wouldn't it give a better baseline
Oh man... what's that all of a sudden? On the video before where the dark spear is supposed to be so much better and now you can see that the scythe is just as strong 🤣🤣🤣 The strongest damage skill with the scythe is only at 9, if it were at 10 the result would be the same or even better... 😂 😂😂 I was wondering why I don't do as much damage with such a "powerful bow" as my favorite scythe does 🤪 With every new weapon they say: This is the most powerful weapon ever! Get them! 😆 Nothing but lies 😝😝😝 All weapons are approximately at the same level! 😉😉😉
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I will be adding west wind numbers tomorrow guys! Need a follow up to this! Also, kinda scared to show WW in case they nerf it ever lolol
Let it be underrated like Saitama don't show god level lol
Payne don't do it 😞 trust they watching you
truee
Why didn't you showcase the skewer?
it'd be cool to show the other good SR weapons such as the Radiru Bow, Orb, demon spear etc. I wanna be able to tell the differences between those and the SSRs
Best SLA content creator on the platform, no debating it. Personality, comedy, *cough*music taste*cough*, & very transparent testings
Ty my brotha 😃!
I'm glad you did this. People in Natto toxic discord tried to tell me Scythe damage is not great. I just feel bad for the guy that has a A3 Scythe not including the free one his first day. But he was told to reroll to get a plum sword because the scythe is "trash".
The problem with Scythe isn't that it's damage is low, it's that there isn't currently any content where it's better then Plum + Moonshadow. So it is kinda trash currently.
you are on of most content creators that needs more love and donate you so clear and friendly ❤
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im happy you did some retesting. esp giving the scythe a little more justice than it deserved from earlier today. and yes the bow puts up insane numbers with its core dmg i got it to a5 three days ago and its core is crazy.
100%. Needed to be done
I feel the Skadi was always for mob clearing since it hits everything around you.
Man I appreciate the hell outta you for this. Doing damage test like this can be so time consuming and slightly frustrating. Like you said I hope the devs can find this video and do some proper adjustments to weapons so the game can have some more variety at late game stages
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Thank you for doing all this testing. Scythe is top three and is still carrying me through most content.
considering SJW is using demon king dagger almost MAJORITY of SL MANHWA i expect that weapon to be broken
We need to 1stly let them(NB) know cos they may not want that
Don't forget to have rest and enjoy life once in a while also
Thank you payne for your time. Glad you did this.
Nice one Payne, would be cool to have a tier list considering the best Support weapons, for the best combinations!
Thanks for taking the time to do this for us, great content as always!
Thnx for info bro.
Imagine fighting the same fkin fatchna 45 times.
Can't imagine doing that.
Appreciate it man.
And I must say this is informative as I was levelling up scythe n grimore so I know what to do now.
Appreciate a lot for all the contents you have been giving us. 👍👍
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Now cant wait to see how West Wind will do.😊
Nice video keep the good work Payne ❤
Thanks for posting Payne! Now I'm happy I lost so many 50/50s and have an A10 Scythe! 😅
Never expect plum to be that great in damage, but its the best offhand regardless of weakness
It's why I used it because most people would use
Love the video, crazy results and too bad that we didn’t see WW testing vs SSR weapons. Would love to see that but still great content ❤
coming tomorrow for WW
@@PayneBlade you’re always on it and we love it, keep it up champ 💪🏽
remember when i commented in previous video saying scythe is underrated!!! but yea debuffs add a lot gotta agree with that at the end of the day
Been waiting for this one
Weapons should scale based on a some percentage of your main character. No matter if it’s attack or overall. That way, you could use any weapon you wanted.
that won't benifit netmarble 😂
@@freefolkgaming that part. Lol
Since I’m anti beneficial to netmarble, let’s go on and add marvel vs capcom style team combos! Really spice things up lol
Big Payne another amazing video I needed this data
Not to mention that Plum increased dark damage by 25 and Crit chance and crit dmg of the next weapon skill sttack, so I think you should omly run 1 weapon
Would u run one weapon in a real game? What's the most common 2ndary weapon people use?
@PayneBlade No I wouldn't, but I don't always use plum. So I'd want to know how much damage the weapon does in of itself as well as with the #1 partner weapon. Still aprpeciate the testing, hwoever
Bro payne , just few minutes ago i got myself goo to A3 which i wanted the most and won the back to back 50/50
Grats!
Nice video keep up the good work Payne ❤
Grimore does more dmg to frozen targets
Yep so that's where the numbers will be skewed a.bit
Why didn't you add the juicy skewer?
Dyam bro salute to your dedication to make these kinda content 🔥🔥
What do u think about the good SR weapons ? Like orb of avar or west wind etc west wind is obviously the best wind weapon but what about orb of ava for small spenders or f2p ? For example i have orb at A10 while i have bow at A1 , which one is better u think ?
Already made a video on this. U can check out the orb vs Vulcan rage vs bow. Orb is amazing
zekes #1 as i thought xD i've been doing some testing recently and it seems like the DPS weapon of choice for "burst-heavy" content, close to 30 million dmg proc's of the drop ability with full buffs
Most awaited ❤
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People sleeping on moonshadow the only weapon that was heavily nerfed due to the test not including shadow steps and still ranked 5th even tho its a ''support weapon'' the whole point that moonshadow debuff is 3 sec only is cause you can reapply through shadow steps
Moonshadow is my fave weapon because of the shadow step damage increase. I have it at A4 and between shadow step and that I had a high orc slowed down for a crazy amount of time
Yes Liz, 100% correct on this. That lunar eclipse debuffs is reapplied with shadow step increasing DMG by 15%
appreciate you bro for this content this a good one!
In mahila the strongest using by jinwoo is the kamish dagger I am waiting for it to come
Ive been a little shocked with the hunstman too, i think its that close range damage increase
Kan't wait to test the Demon King's Daggers + Grimiore and the Moonshadow Daggers
Hello payne i have a question. I currently have a1 pheonix soul and a6 orb of avarice which is better between them through current advancements
Tbh orb maybe better at that stage
@@PayneBlade oh thanks
2 Hours at least putting into this video. How many Shadow Steps you instinctively activated by accident and had to restart ? Thank you for the content! I'd say to everyone this is an informative content and should not discourage or triggers anyone with their preferred weapons. See you on the stream!
Ty my brotha! Always appreciate you, ur generosity and time
Does the Grimoire lose damage since its A5 is not freezing?
100%
Ur not using Phoenix bow at its max potential. U can dash and then use the core attack of the Phoenix bow to do more damage like.
Dash>skill>dash>core atk>dash>core atk this is the max potential i think and can u re test Phoenix bow doing this pls.
Thank U!
That only applies with plum and I did that tbh on runs I didn't record haha.
First of all, there is no mention in the Phoenix bow weapon description anywhere that dashing followed by core deals higher dmg, so I am assuming the dashing is to activate amplifying draw, if so, amplifying draw only enhances skill dmg, which is the weapon skill itself so it doesn't affect core dmg at all.
secondly, even if I am wrong and amplifying draw does increase core atk as well, then in an actual fight, it's not even possible to use it to its "max potential" as you mentioned when dashes are so precious in end game content, using 3 dash jus to activate phoenix skill and core is just not viable, not to mention the fact that if pairing with plum, you need to dash to full bloom making it 4 dashes to use plum and phoenix in just ONE rotation, dash takes about 2-3 seconds to be up and the max dash is only 3 by default, it is only possible to do 4 dashes whenever using plum and phoenix if you don't attempt to dodge and that's meant not using shadow step which would be ironic as to reach max potential for phoenix bow, you are sacrificing the max potential for maximum damage by using shadow step.
lastly, in end game content, you would need to dodge most of the time as each atk is fatal enough to kill especially when equipping curse artifacts or blessings like chains of blood, double edge sword, or even boss slayer which increases dash cooldown, and also weapon like scythe which also increase dmg taken.
all in all, your method is only viable if dash is unlimited, and even so amplifying draw doesn't increase core atk( I may be wrong but I am fairly certain it only increases skill dmg and not core) so what Payne is doing for phoenix is the right move
@@francois8059 the core attack doesn't get the skill damage boost but still get the 32% increase in crit rate and crit dmg with a3 plum and there is a blessing that's gives 1 extra dash and it's good for pod
@@celebritiecelebrities2888 ohhh, I totally forgot about that, you are right but Iike you said, I think it’s only good for pod where survival is not an issue at high lvl, outside of that in any hard hitting content, I still don’t think it’s good to use 5 dashes( 1 for shadow step, 1 for full bloom, 3 for Phoenix) in one rotation but it’s just my opinion and Ofc I respect yours too.
I just got the new SSR light spear, got lucky with the guild boss rewards😁
Well well well......now you guys know why I was denying about sychthe being in low tier than other weapons in ranking teir in weapons video .........😂😂😂every people was arguing about my decision but now you know how powerful it is as a dps
issue with scythe is it requires 2 big things. 1) A5 and 2) A5 plum for full potential while other weapons can be much more viable at lower stages
@@PayneBlade yeah payne but the point I was talking about is how much of a beast is for f2p players in terms of damage .....people just ignoring the damage of it like it is a dumb weapon is intolerable
@@godxvbtff1903 oh yea I've been saying it's a great dps for a long time but it's just a lot to get up there. A1 is still a great spot for it
Honestly man respect for doing this lol, cuz i would have been burned tf out of this game.
i had do so much work to get r5 of shadow sythe a plum ,glad that it still has power
Moonshadow and Plum or Westwind and Plum is the best combo.
Hey man, you should've taken the best out of the five results, not the total.
Also, thanks a lot for your efforts. Your content is always spot on.
On THIS is some *chief kiss* content!
5:20 did i miss something why is he using plum while testing the bow huh
Hi Payne, does it mean that Zeke is better when paired with Moonshadow instead of Plum?
Thank you, and much appreciation for the hard work you put into every video.
Moonshadow and its not even close
@@colegillgrass3373 thanks bro 👍🏻
Another banger video payne! Can i ask a favor? Can you also try this test on westwind?
noticed skewer wasn't included 🤷
Well demon king long sword can be used for stages where are more mobes due to its lightning
Pls Netmarble...I really want a proper Buff for DKL as somehow it's my first a5 without even being in my list for draws and it's my fav weapon from the manhwa
Yeah they shoved A5 down my throat and kept me using a super weak weapon the whole time 😂
i just recognized you said no gear changes that means one element will get a buff thru the one piece and the other will not
Nope elements don't work atm. It's a known issue. No elemental advantage at all
Scared to see west winds numbers lol, its gonna be to much better than the rest 😅
everytime you diss skadi like 1000x in this video
i get hurt😔😔😔 ... that gun carried me on wobl ... hope they buff it more
9:22 u say huntsman but in yt bar stand moonshadow and plum
i think u forgot to put plum and moonshadow in then like the mentioning using it
SR weapons when ? that'd be interesting to see the margin between SSRs and SRs
for the demon sword all going for the counter , and on you test , because you sung die quick you not tested that , but if you test with all time counter i'm sure this do much better damage
The counter effect is important but I gave it bonus at the end already
we need west wend stats because i believe it might be the highest out of them
Where are the westwind numbers?😂
Bro really 30 min video keep your health in check bro and thanks for the video 😊
it is disguting the powercreep, i am not even sure if i go after zeke a5 is good because next week scythe can be buffed and be better again, every week they change to make us spend more and more, disguting.
Certain weapons are just better from the buffs they give
100%
Looks like my f2p resources almost depletes 😂😂 still a1 Alicia. I need her to be a5 ASAP. Instead i got my Cha after 3 long month without her and she's a1 too. Idk if i should be thanksfull or not but hmmm idk
West wind might have crossed 100 million I guess
I'm actually surprised grimoire is the worst in term of dps i thought it did more damage than that
Opponent can't freeze sadly where a ton of DMG comes from
huntsman has def down
Does the 15% dark dmaage bonus from a3 stacks between weapons ? Wouldn't that explain how all dark weapons are on top ?
It does yes but I have to use something that most people would use as their 2ndary and that's usually the plum
@@PayneBlade makes sense of course. But it explains the supremacy of dark weapons i guess. Love your content btw !
I still can't find how to change color of my cyberpunk costume 😢,gosh
Because u need to be top 1k to have killed Vulcan hard
@@PayneBlade oh that makes sense, thanks man,
Didnt zeke have above 100mil dmge with moonshadow!?? Int last vid
The problem with Scythe is that it's just not fun to use.
Have u considered that Zeke's and scythe with plum have more dark dmg from passive so they have higher number ? If that is the case then the bow is the strongest or second strongest
Yep but I'm also being practical in regards to what the most common 2ndary weapon is
The problem is not making a new meta
The problem is nerfing the same meta which was before
Like we are going to step into light and dark meta and nerfing the old light character like cha hae😭😭😭
Because if they wanna change meta every month no problem
5 metas will exist and we will be in a cycle and will be using the old characters and weapons but nerfing the old characters and weapons every time the meta changes so that only the new ones can clear the meta will make the game a junk box filled with random things
I think when jeju island raid comes it will be another water meta and they will nerf alicia like cha and goto ryuji will be the new powerful water character 😭😭
Scythe haters but hurt even after this video people saying the scythe damage is low. 🤨🤔 Right, I guess Payne just made up the numbers in this video.
Still a super powerful weapon
i love the alicia tan videos
Hey I just changed my guild and I can't fight the guild boss the game is not allowing me could somebody tell me what is happening
There Is a penalty until reset
I wanted to try this game but it crashes pretty often 😢
Payne, what was the element on the curse bracelet? That plays a significant role
Element doesn't work atm but it was wind
Got 2 skadi last week in the new weapon draw banner😢😢
zeke is powerful.....it can attack twice
alicia tanned video LOL
Where's the west wind
good job, take a like
Should I push Grimwoire to A5?
Just out of curiosity what element did your bracelet have/increase ?
Currently not working but it was wind
@@PayneBlade Ahh alright thanks !
Yo, Payne Do all the artifacts drop rate is same on instances??? I rarely very rarely get Expert set!!!. For some reason every single run they keep giving me concentration of fire power or outstanding connection. It's like the game dont want me to give expert at all!!!!!!!
Ya it's all the same
West wind?
for the phoenix bow, wouldn't it be good to dash before each core attack?
Only if u use plum sword but not everyone will
Wouldn't testing the weapons without plum as the secondary be better then? I'd assume that dark weapons have an advantage by default when you have a5 or higher plum
@zer0467 making it practical. No one uses weapons without a 2ndary weapon and the plum is the most popular
Does anyone know how you change the color on sung Jin woo cyber punk outfit
You can't, that was exclusive for the first 3,000 who cleared hard mode vulcan.
U know what there's a dark element damage boost when u u use both dark weapon
yep I'm aware
Solo leveling alicia tan video 😂
Wow never thought scythe is doing better than most weapon I always thought moon was the better dps
Moon is the better of the 2 buffing weapons and debuffing but it's not meant for raw dps like scythe
So scythe and plum better or with moon ?
i was told that every hunter main stats should focus on flat stats unlike swj that can use percentage main stats anyone here can help me on this?
yep u can watch my video covering each hunters most important stats
@@PayneBlade woah i got a reply from you, this was awesome, ill try to find it in any of your uploaded vidoes, thanks for this
I am sad tou forgot to record west wind runs.
DKLS should have done better without shadow steps… counter attack is a lot of its power… but we didn’t do any…
Ya I was actually going to note that about counter attack but with a3 and up the counter doesn't matter as much since the effect still occurs
Playing dkls without counter attack is like playing scythe without holding skill button or playing ww with no crit and no holding the button 😢
I gave it an increased score but let's be honest with the sword, it still needs a massive buff lol
Summer event weapon???
just buffing weapons. they would be the worst of the bunch and the marlin is an aoe weapon
Yo payne, just wondering why not just use one weapon? I know that in game we'll be almost always pairing with plum sword but wouldn't it give a better baseline
cause no one would use one weapon at a time
@@PayneBlade Yeah but the pheonix bow might've beat out the zeke since plum sword gives something like 30% extra dark damage
Ya I know but I have to keep it consistent somehow..most people would still use bow with plum
@@PayneBlade I guess ur right man, we know we gonna use pheonix bow for fire content and zeke for shadow. Thanks for the info as always as well.
Oh man... what's that all of a sudden? On the video before where the dark spear is supposed to be so much better and now you can see that the scythe is just as strong 🤣🤣🤣 The strongest damage skill with the scythe is only at 9, if it were at 10 the result would be the same or even better... 😂 😂😂
I was wondering why I don't do as much damage with such a "powerful bow" as my favorite scythe does 🤪
With every new weapon they say: This is the most powerful weapon ever! Get them! 😆
Nothing but lies 😝😝😝
All weapons are approximately at the same level! 😉😉😉
Shows the limit tho of scythe vs zeke. Using the moonshadow with scythe drastically reduced it's DMG and it really only is complimented by plum.