If you are angry and worried then do something about it. You get the democracy you work for. Focus your energy. Vote, get your friends to vote, volunteer, donate. Plenty of orgs to support (Republicans Against Trump, NextGen, Vote Save America, VoteRiders, etc.). Two weeks left. Take action or you have nothing to complain about if Trump wins....
Just about everyone completely understands that this is nothing more than a desperate, coordinated messaging campaign orchestrated by a failing candidate. This is a partisan message that they are attempting to boost using sycophantic media. So in other words, more delusional “LITERALLY HITLER” BS.
The problem with just releasing an audio through traditional media is that people it needs to reach are not going to hear about it or believe it unless they see video footage, or he gets out and does a press conference. For a general who understands the stakes, Kelly is still a major coward.
I don’t need John Kelly to tell me anything. Obviously ability and character matter and sadly our antiquated voting system allowed the worst to happen. We need serious voting reforms to move the needle way over where the vast majority of us are. Government must reflect the actual will of the people.
My wife and I voted in Pennsylvania, both for Harris/Casey. My wife is a 1st time voter. My oldest child is also voting for the first time ever this election. He's also a Harris supporter as is his gf who's also voting. +4 in Pennsylvania, 3 of which are brand new voters
Larry David phenomenon. You call out someone being a dick, they accuse you of being the dick. 'How dare you point out what I am doing? You are being hysterical'.
I think consumers of New York times content are generally pretty well educated, so I'm surprised how dumb this conversation is, with beating people over the head about fascism
The more fascist he gets, the more voters move towards him and cite 'price of eggs'. Disgusting people would live through economic collapse as long as the people they are scared of are dissapeared.
Trump not understanding what was in it for the soldiers who died in Iraq and Afghanistan is really a positive thing a large number of liberals and leftists would agree with if Trump wasn't the one saying it.
Journalists WHO’S JOB IT IS TO BRING CLARITY AND PROTECT DEMOCRACY: “Wow, that was helpful! It gave the conversation texture and made a muddy definition clear.” Worse than useless. Glad we’ve raised the bar to the bare minimum two weeks before the election.
What are you scared about? What happened during the four years he was in office that upset your life? Was it the lack of wars started around the world you disliked?
As an Australian, I find it very odd how much acting and entertainment background is a KEY benefit to a political career in the USA. A lucky break in reality TV doesn't give him any knowledge of how to run an economy, and his ignorance of how tariffs work is only the most obvious of many major concerns with his economic ideas. Taking control of the central bank is another clear economic error, obvious. The image created by his reality TV career is an illusion. The idea that anyone can bring back 2019 is an illusion.
"new guy says Trump is a new special kind of (potential) danger as of 2 weeks ago" .. and we sat down with him, and we talked to him about sitting down before we sat down, ugh🙄🤦♂️
The Naval Observatory is the heart and soul of service to one's country. This precisely signals to John Kelly's point that Trump doesn't get it and is a place which is available to Kamala the candidate. Kamala gets it.
How does anyone vote for Trump??? If only the New York Times brought on someone who will proudly vote for Trump to explain their position instead of villainizing them
There was a whole series of NYT podcasts which did go talk to Trump voters. I've heard a lot more from Trump voters than people voting for Harris, 3rd party, or not at all. Their views are well represented in the everyday speakers in those podcasts if not the professional talking heads.
This show is ridiculous. What's the point of this show? Are we supposed to believe that Kelly knew this for 4 years, didn't bring it up in 2020, and NOW he decides to tell it?Bahahahahahahsa... only liberals would buy this.
Mark Kelly : Man those Trump comments were weird. How about I inject myself into the 2020 election, forget those comments for 4 years, and suddenly remember then 2 weeks before the election. Mark Kelly shot his bullet in 2020 he doesn’t get two. This has been the argument most of my family has made.
I think a lot of people tried really hard to give Trump concessions, especially those who spent time in devotion to him in his administration. A man of his position had to be very careful about slandering a past president. I think him coming forward is a declassified warning in revealing what he's known and now the stakes are too high to remain silent. Judging on some assumptive motive is irrelevant at this juncture..
Please understand who you’re talking about before responding. This is the problem with Trump voters, you say things but don’t know what you’re even saying.
For me, J.D. Vance is somewhat of a deciding factor, only because of Trump's age. He would be the oldest person ever elected president, and he's had years of poor diet and little exercise. J.D Vance was only elected to public office for the first time in 2022, and before that he was a failed venture capitalist who exploited and lied to workers in his own home state. He is so incredibly far from being fit to take over one of the most powerful offices in the world, and the chances of him becoming President Vance are high if Trump is elected.
I get that. I'm not American, but I feel the same way about my options in my country. But, and please don't take this the wrong way - being an adult sometimes means you have to make a choice you are not 100% aligned with, but is the best of your poor options. Voting is probably the single most important civic duty you acquire as an adult, and if you are waiting for a candidate to come along who fully aligns and targets all of your viewpoints - I think you'll be waiting and not exercising this singular duty and awful long time. Change is generally a gradually process...if one candidate is more likely to get you closer to your goal state, not voting won't get you closer. Also, if you don't vote - you are essentially letting others make the choices for you. Finally, if you don't vote, and feel that this will somehow "send a message", I think you are overestimating how loud that message will be, and underestimating the ramifications of your surrender to apathy, not just for yourself, but for your fellow citizens. I'm reminded of a quote attributed to Plato: "The price of apathy in public affairs is to be ruled by evil men." ...and we've seen the havoc that evil men can create.
If you are angry and worried then do something about it. You get the democracy you work for. Focus your energy. Vote, get your friends to vote, volunteer, donate. Plenty of orgs to support (Republicans Against Trump, NextGen, Vote Save America, VoteRiders, etc.). Two weeks left. Take action or you have nothing to complain about if Trump wins....
Just about everyone completely understands that this is nothing more than a desperate, coordinated messaging campaign orchestrated by a failing candidate.
This is a partisan message that they are attempting to boost using sycophantic media.
So in other words, more delusional “LITERALLY HITLER” BS.
The problem with just releasing an audio through traditional media is that people it needs to reach are not going to hear about it or believe it unless they see video footage, or he gets out and does a press conference. For a general who understands the stakes, Kelly is still a major coward.
All the participants are solid journalists with stellar credentials. However, four white guys? Please.
I don’t need John Kelly to tell me anything. Obviously ability and character matter and sadly our antiquated voting system allowed the worst to happen. We need serious voting reforms to move the needle way over where the vast majority of us are. Government must reflect the actual will of the people.
My wife and I voted in Pennsylvania, both for Harris/Casey. My wife is a 1st time voter. My oldest child is also voting for the first time ever this election. He's also a Harris supporter as is his gf who's also voting. +4 in Pennsylvania, 3 of which are brand new voters
Thank you!!
I moved to PA in 2019 and I'll be happily voting Harris/Casey with you 👍🏽
I don’t know who needs to hear this, but VOTE.
Encouraged by all the Dem voters! Voted Blue 🌊🌊🌊💙
It's not only about moving people that are the fence it's also about making sure that people dont stay home, that they go out and vote...
There's a weird influx of insulted republicans in these comments. Nothing but ignorance, insults and posturing on this reasonable discussion.
They're here for everything NYT does. I don't know why they're even here.
Larry David phenomenon. You call out someone being a dick, they accuse you of being the dick. 'How dare you point out what I am doing? You are being hysterical'.
I think consumers of New York times content are generally pretty well educated, so I'm surprised how dumb this conversation is, with beating people over the head about fascism
They have other content, and seeing these comments, people need dumbed down content to begin to accept info outside their echo chamber.
The more fascist he gets, the more voters move towards him and cite 'price of eggs'. Disgusting people would live through economic collapse as long as the people they are scared of are dissapeared.
Trump not understanding what was in it for the soldiers who died in Iraq and Afghanistan is really a positive thing a large number of liberals and leftists would agree with if Trump wasn't the one saying it.
I'm not shocked they are all white dudes lol i typically only listen on my Overcast app.
These confected moral indignations and supercilious judgements amount to precisely nought.
Crazy that trump doesn’t think that national guard is part of the military lol
Journalists WHO’S JOB IT IS TO BRING CLARITY AND PROTECT DEMOCRACY: “Wow, that was helpful! It gave the conversation texture and made a muddy definition clear.”
Worse than useless. Glad we’ve raised the bar to the bare minimum two weeks before the election.
As an Australian I’m terrified of another trump term. I can’t believe 50% of Americans are even considering the orange fascist.
As an Australian, nobody here cares what you think.
Propaganda works. Speaking of which how about you guys take back Rupert.
What are you scared about? What happened during the four years he was in office that upset your life? Was it the lack of wars started around the world you disliked?
As an Australian, I find it very odd how much acting and entertainment background is a KEY benefit to a political career in the USA.
A lucky break in reality TV doesn't give him any knowledge of how to run an economy, and his ignorance of how tariffs work is only the most obvious of many major concerns with his economic ideas. Taking control of the central bank is another clear economic error, obvious.
The image created by his reality TV career is an illusion.
The idea that anyone can bring back 2019 is an illusion.
@@naomieyles210 Hey prisoner colony guy... He's already been President and were we good. GTFOH!! You know nothing. Go put your mask on and STFU!!!
This story came out 2 years ago!
If Nikki Hailey comes out and campaigns with trump wouldn’t that wipe out the Liz Cheney thing out.
Trump is refusing her because he's not done shedding tears over her primary run and won't give her any chance at stage time even if it would help him.
Why would Cheney's endorsement mean anything? She's a nobody and her dad was 1000% worse than Trump in actual damage done.
"new guy says Trump is a new special kind of (potential) danger as of 2 weeks ago" .. and we sat down with him, and we talked to him about sitting down before we sat down, ugh🙄🤦♂️
No Ross Douthit.........good call.
Why do Democrat men always have to look like this? Between the four of them i fear they couldn't fend off a tough fourteen year old kid.
Everyone should vote but this all a bunch of doom watching.
I don’t think people around the world realize the ramifications of this election. Like, “why should I care?”, which boggles my mind.
I kind of feel like people in other parts of the world understand how pivotal this election is more than many Americans do
@@parissinclair6513in Sweden, that’s not the case.
The Naval Observatory is the heart and soul of service to one's country. This precisely signals to John Kelly's point that Trump doesn't get it and is a place which is available to Kamala the candidate. Kamala gets it.
A campaign contribution in kind.
How does anyone vote for Trump??? If only the New York Times brought on someone who will proudly vote for Trump to explain their position instead of villainizing them
There was a whole series of NYT podcasts which did go talk to Trump voters.
I've heard a lot more from Trump voters than people voting for Harris, 3rd party, or not at all.
Their views are well represented in the everyday speakers in those podcasts if not the professional talking heads.
TDS podcast
Trump! 🇺🇸
Nope. He doesn't represent America well, maybe Russia.
@@11eqgt5n7eq okay bot
Trump for Prison 2025! 🇺🇲
Great podcast, as usual! Thank you!
I'm a shy pro-fascism, anti Trump guy. Or woman. Who should I vote for?
I vote you find professional help
Why wasn't this story Front Page?
This show is ridiculous. What's the point of this show? Are we supposed to believe that Kelly knew this for 4 years, didn't bring it up in 2020, and NOW he decides to tell it?Bahahahahahahsa... only liberals would buy this.
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Out of touch elitism. TRUMP 2024❤❤❤🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Who is out of touch? Working class vs born rich, who is actually a part of elite circles?
Did you watch what *he* said, not even what the podcasters said. It’s literally insane.
Trump is an elitist billionaire. He flew on Exstein's airplane.
You asking us to vote for the dementia billionaire? What the hell?
@@computeraidedworld1148commenter is probably a bo5.
I voted for Trump, let's do it. 🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲
Mark Kelly : Man those Trump comments were weird. How about I inject myself into the 2020 election, forget those comments for 4 years, and suddenly remember then 2 weeks before the election. Mark Kelly shot his bullet in 2020 he doesn’t get two. This has been the argument most of my family has made.
I think a lot of people tried really hard to give Trump concessions, especially those who spent time in devotion to him in his administration. A man of his position had to be very careful about slandering a past president. I think him coming forward is a declassified warning in revealing what he's known and now the stakes are too high to remain silent. Judging on some assumptive motive is irrelevant at this juncture..
*John Kelly! Mark Kelly is the Democratic senator from Arizona who used to be an astronaut.
Please understand who you’re talking about before responding. This is the problem with Trump voters, you say things but don’t know what you’re even saying.
Los que apoyan a KEMALA MAMAMALA lost left Kamaradas cuba - Venezuela
Trump ganará
Saludos desde Perú 🇵🇪
Babahhahahahaha this is so ridiculous !!!! You are so out of touch - your podcast is so inauthentic hahahahah it’s like a mocumebtary / satire -
This is what an echo chamber and delusion looks like. Please be careful.
Fascism? I wish!
you sound like you’d be a lot of fun on car rides
@@le_rayon_vert Train rides. ;)
Trump is WINNER
Not in 2020. lol
The only ones who think trump is a winner are losers.
We undecided voters are not undecided. We have decided that both candidates are not worthy as Presidential candidates.
Honest question: is one option _less_ worthy? Is one option materially worse?
For me, J.D. Vance is somewhat of a deciding factor, only because of Trump's age. He would be the oldest person ever elected president, and he's had years of poor diet and little exercise. J.D Vance was only elected to public office for the first time in 2022, and before that he was a failed venture capitalist who exploited and lied to workers in his own home state. He is so incredibly far from being fit to take over one of the most powerful offices in the world, and the chances of him becoming President Vance are high if Trump is elected.
I get that. I'm not American, but I feel the same way about my options in my country. But, and please don't take this the wrong way - being an adult sometimes means you have to make a choice you are not 100% aligned with, but is the best of your poor options. Voting is probably the single most important civic duty you acquire as an adult, and if you are waiting for a candidate to come along who fully aligns and targets all of your viewpoints - I think you'll be waiting and not exercising this singular duty and awful long time. Change is generally a gradually process...if one candidate is more likely to get you closer to your goal state, not voting won't get you closer.
Also, if you don't vote - you are essentially letting others make the choices for you. Finally, if you don't vote, and feel that this will somehow "send a message", I think you are overestimating how loud that message will be, and underestimating the ramifications of your surrender to apathy, not just for yourself, but for your fellow citizens.
I'm reminded of a quote attributed to Plato:
"The price of apathy in public affairs is to be ruled by evil men."
...and we've seen the havoc that evil men can create.
Americanos red pill