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My favorite Etude. The beautiful melody, contrasted with the tense middle section, only to return to complete bliss. It absolutely rejuvenates me. Thanks so much for the analysis!
Wow I just started learning this one the other week and checked to see if you had done an analysis on it yet. Now I see it posted today and I couldn't be happier! Wonderful.
SO WONDERFUL!!!!! Thank you for my absolutely favourite Chopin's "Tristesse" Etude, I'm planning to learn this masterpiece and your tutorial will be helpful for many people, my warm heartfelt greetings from Poland, have a happy week. Joanna
@@viktorenano3516 Mr Viktor, I have the sheet music for my favourite Chopin's "Tristesse" Etude 🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶, my best regards from warm/hot Poland, have a nice relaxing Sunday/happy new week, Joanna.
I agree that it evokes a pleasant sensation rather than sadness. It beautifully captures the essence of intimacy. The beginning represents foreplay, filled with gentle caresses that feel very pleasurable. As the tempo increases, the music becomes more emotional, leading to the climax (orgasm) in the middle. Finally, the music concludes with a sense of restful tranquility. The etude is a description of an intercourse.
I've always percieved it as a love story - there is young love, then there's argument, hatred, resolution and love once again. I think it's called saddness because looking in retrospect makes the poet feel uneasy and sad because of how close they came to losing their significant other after having snapped at them the way the did. It's a perfect balance between ideal love and cruel devastation
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Oh no! I saw your comment and I really appreciated it, but then RUclips somehow removed it automatically, without me being able to reinstate it! I hope this is not your last comment, because I would miss them :)
Also for this piece I can picturise a farewell scene, a family member gone for a lifelong trip using a horse cart as transportation. This Etude is also known as Farewell. The middle section for me sounds like the sadness and drama and hatred for the person leaving them, then thinking ahead and went back to calmness and tranquility again. This is also the only Etude I technically completed, even though I struggled to play the tritones in the second section (10:54 in the video), but it is still absolutely beautiful. Also I actually skipped a section in the middle, with the tritone starting high and gradually resolving and resolving to B major (Starting from 12:10 in the video).Since I can’t sight read that yet, I’m also struggling to think about new pieces to learn from Chopin so if anyone can recommend any Chopin pieces please feel free to do so.
I can recommend the preludes no. 4, 15 and 20, which are very manageable to play. The tritones in this etude shouldn't be that hard to read - sure it's a lot of accidentals, but a simple pattern that is easy to understand. But then it's very hard to play with both hands at the same time!
For me the A section is about reminiscing about your partner or friend after you break up with them following an heat argument (hence the alternate L'Adieu nickname). B section is about trying to get another chance to avoid the breakup, starting with the original thought it keeps repeating and doesn't go away, so you calling them, followed by anxiously rehearsing what to for what to say, followed by a heated argument (the "con forza" and "con bravura" sections), followed by acceptance and grace to move on, in which we go back to the A section. But yeah the song has nothing really to do with "Tristesse/sadness". Just my opinion since A section always sounded like nostalgia and B section always sounded like an argument.
*one year later: ruclips.net/video/7kfJvpODcXM/видео.html I'm sorry to see here that Moi Aussi seems to be gone from this comments exchange, he was kind enough to send me a gift card for the book "Play it again" which I received, read and referenced in the end of the above video (in case someone gets confused by these comments)
Mein Herr. If it be, as you have directed me towards this beautiful composition by my request. Could you think about Tannhäuser, the pilgrimage chorus. Especially Liszt's version.
Good evening sir. Your performance throughout the analysis is really beautiful. At the last moment, the Presto Etude performance, even though it was little, it created a different atmosphere of energy. Please do an analysis of that one. And I know a piece which has the same environment as this Etude. It is Meditation de Thais by Jules Massanet. Please check it out.
Thank you Atmadeep! Yes, the C# minor etude is very different. Maybe I'll return to it in the future. The Thais Meditation is a beautiful piece for violin or cello, I'm not so sure about a solo piano version of that...
I have another suggestion. Can you please do an analysis of Bach’s Well Tempered Clavier Book 1 Prelude and Fugue no. 2 in. C minor? I love your opinions about these pieces. ❤️ from India.
Wow, for the first time in my life i actually hear someone talk about the "wrong" rhythmical playing in the 'con bravura' (13:44) section! It bothers me so much... who says these slurs need to be accentuated in this way, completely destroying any rhythmical coherence?? After all, a slur still means binding, much more than accentuation! Still, i haven't heard a single pianist choosing differently here with this "dilemma"...
How do you deal with the pedal from Poco piu animato?I find it difficult to find the right spot in that section. It’s easy to drown everything with the pedal but if it’s not used enough it sounds dry.
Czy mogę prosić o ten utwór w interpretacji Musica Antigua Köln? Chodzi o dynamikę. Oni uważali, że zbyt wolno lub zbyt leniwie wykonujemy kompozycje z tamtych czasów.
You provide some good analysis on the harmony, but what about the rhythm and metric accents? Try counting out loud the meter of the "etude" contrary sixths. The rhythmic accents indicated by slurs are in opposition to the rhythmic/metric accents. What do you make of this? There are other instances of this contradiction. You mention the A1 section (after the initial theme) starting with RH sixths melody starting on the second half of a measure, but sounding like the beginning of a measure. What did Chopin intend here? Could he have written the metric notation a different way? Still, good analysis of harmony.
I am new to music theory, but isn't the chord in m.32 an Em 6th chord and not a half diminished (10min15s on the video)? Thank you for an engaging video and very helpful analysis!
Hi Henrik,could you try to analyse 12 rhapsodies op 1 of Jan vaclav hugo vorisek and tell what you fel from them??i love your analysis and explanations,great job,please go on,it will be helpful for me at fifth Year at conservatory
It sounds like a nocturne upon listening. I could probably play this just as easily as I can play Nocturne in Eb op. 9 no. 2 as I have played 2 voices in 1 hand, namely in Beethoven's Pathetique and Moonlight sonatas.
this song is alot more challenging that opus 9. Even though the middle section is easy to play separately but once you put those chromatic scales together it is very easy to make mistakes. However i think the beginning of the piece is as easy as the nocturne. both are great pieces.
Im sorry, but i feel nothing listening this piece playing like this. It's extremily touching if you put feelings of sadness on it. It is my humble opinion.
I personally dislike the slow rendition that's very mainstream....it creates a sort of unsettling feeling for me, I find more beauty in this interpretation that's not 'tristesse' and weepy 🥲
I get a bit excited when I have to talk all the time hehe. There will be a separate performance video and I think I have a slightly more restrained tempo there when I can focus more on only the music.
I disagree with your interpretation of the level of sadness. I think it expresses a deep sadness and personal grief from all time in life that’s past and lost and what could have been and then a rage at the loss during the section of turbulent tritones and then back to a the sadness but in the recapitulation there is also acceptance that life is all these things
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My favorite Etude. The beautiful melody, contrasted with the tense middle section, only to return to complete bliss. It absolutely rejuvenates me. Thanks so much for the analysis!
Wow I just started learning this one the other week and checked to see if you had done an analysis on it yet. Now I see it posted today and I couldn't be happier! Wonderful.
Good timing! :)
so glad, you talk about this piece, which is my favorite one
So glad my auto play chose your channel. Already made a new playlist for these videos!
Welcome!
Wow. This is great.
i really love this channel and it has helped me very much on certain songs. Thank you Sonatas secrets!
It's my pleasure! :)
Hi sonata secrets I miss you so much
I have newfound appreciation for this piece which is amazing because I have loved this for the longest time! Thank you so much ♥️
Lovely playing, this is one of chopins most beautiful pieces for sure. Thanks for all the great content!!!
Thank you Ethan!
Oh nice, I was wondering when you would create a analysis of tristesse
I think I have watched every tutorial on this piece on RUclips so glad you have made an analysis I have to perform this piece for school :)
SO WONDERFUL!!!!! Thank you for my absolutely favourite Chopin's "Tristesse" Etude, I'm planning to learn this masterpiece and your tutorial will be helpful for many people, my warm heartfelt greetings from Poland, have a happy week. Joanna
Thank you so much Joanna, I'm glad you liked it!
Joanna How did you did that
@@viktorenano3516 Mr Viktor, I have the sheet music for my favourite Chopin's "Tristesse" Etude 🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶, my best regards from warm/hot Poland, have a nice relaxing Sunday/happy new week, Joanna.
Thank you I agree and I like this tempi
I agree that it evokes a pleasant sensation rather than sadness. It beautifully captures the essence of intimacy. The beginning represents foreplay, filled with gentle caresses that feel very pleasurable. As the tempo increases, the music becomes more emotional, leading to the climax (orgasm) in the middle. Finally, the music concludes with a sense of restful tranquility. The etude is a description of an intercourse.
I've always percieved it as a love story - there is young love, then there's argument, hatred, resolution and love once again. I think it's called saddness because looking in retrospect makes the poet feel uneasy and sad because of how close they came to losing their significant other after having snapped at them the way the did. It's a perfect balance between ideal love and cruel devastation
Your pfp lol
I think it's highly unlikely that this piece is meant to follow a story
"Nostalgie" sounded more appropriate to me while learning.
Good work I love that music
"Melancholy is the joy of being sad." Victor Hugo, Toilers of the Sea. This is the quote I would associate with this piece.
Started learning this a few weeks ago, I have no doubt your analysis will be very helpful!
Beautiful journey!
Thank you for this analysis, this piece is also rejected by my family bcuz of the stormy B section
J'adore ce professeur de piano!😀
Det här är min sista kommentar på kanalen. Jag hoppas att den andra kommentaren inte misshagade dig, eftersom det ser ut som att den har tagits bort. Framgång och lycka alltid. Tack för den fantastiska videon.
Oh no! I saw your comment and I really appreciated it, but then RUclips somehow removed it automatically, without me being able to reinstate it! I hope this is not your last comment, because I would miss them :)
@@SonataSecrets thanks for the kindness with which you answered me. 🙂
Beautiful
Thank you so much for this tutorial!
love this etude! because of its progression and melody!
Wonderful tutorial as always. Thank you! 😎🎶
2:38 not just e and b7, there are 9, sus, maj 7, 6 or 13 of the two thats why its so beautfil
Also for this piece I can picturise a farewell scene, a family member gone for a lifelong trip using a horse cart as transportation. This Etude is also known as Farewell. The middle section for me sounds like the sadness and drama and hatred for the person leaving them, then thinking ahead and went back to calmness and tranquility again. This is also the only Etude I technically completed, even though I struggled to play the tritones in the second section (10:54 in the video), but it is still absolutely beautiful.
Also I actually skipped a section in the middle, with the tritone starting high and gradually resolving and resolving to B major (Starting from 12:10 in the video).Since I can’t sight read that yet, I’m also struggling to think about new pieces to learn from Chopin so if anyone can recommend any Chopin pieces please feel free to do so.
I can recommend the preludes no. 4, 15 and 20, which are very manageable to play.
The tritones in this etude shouldn't be that hard to read - sure it's a lot of accidentals, but a simple pattern that is easy to understand. But then it's very hard to play with both hands at the same time!
I learnt all those preludes that you recommended, but still thanks for the suggestion
Fantastic analysis, Thanks for that
I love this study, and I hope to continue playing that the rest of my life ❤❤❤
Amazing Video, great piece, great explanation and this really cool View on your hands :) Thanks ^^
Thanks, glad you like the keyboard view! :)
13:55 it’s so hard to choose 😅I should listen more performances :D
I was trying to play this piece before but the part of the sound of the bell is so challenging that I already given up😅
Sounds more like a farewell to me
Can you do etude op 10 no 1
For me the A section is about reminiscing about your partner or friend after you break up with them following an heat argument (hence the alternate L'Adieu nickname). B section is about trying to get another chance to avoid the breakup, starting with the original thought it keeps repeating and doesn't go away, so you calling them, followed by anxiously rehearsing what to for what to say, followed by a heated argument (the "con forza" and "con bravura" sections), followed by acceptance and grace to move on, in which we go back to the A section. But yeah the song has nothing really to do with "Tristesse/sadness".
Just my opinion since A section always sounded like nostalgia and B section always sounded like an argument.
You should also do the anallynis of Chopin ballade no one, the fourth would also be great!
The 1st Ballade will come in the autumn!
@@MoiAussi18 I know, I've read an article about the book and his project, inspiring!
Sure, thank you! I've used amazon.co.uk. What do you mean by delivery charge?
That's incredible delivery!
*one year later: ruclips.net/video/7kfJvpODcXM/видео.html
I'm sorry to see here that Moi Aussi seems to be gone from this comments exchange, he was kind enough to send me a gift card for the book "Play it again" which I received, read and referenced in the end of the above video (in case someone gets confused by these comments)
very great and very difficult for song this!
you should do a analysis of Bruyeres Prelude. 5, Book 2 by Debussy
Mein Herr. If it be, as you have directed me towards this beautiful composition by my request. Could you think about Tannhäuser, the pilgrimage chorus. Especially Liszt's version.
Good evening sir. Your performance throughout the analysis is really beautiful. At the last moment, the Presto Etude performance, even though it was little, it created a different atmosphere of energy. Please do an analysis of that one. And I know a piece which has the same environment as this Etude. It is Meditation de Thais by Jules Massanet. Please check it out.
Thank you Atmadeep! Yes, the C# minor etude is very different. Maybe I'll return to it in the future. The Thais Meditation is a beautiful piece for violin or cello, I'm not so sure about a solo piano version of that...
I have another suggestion. Can you please do an analysis of Bach’s Well Tempered Clavier Book 1 Prelude and Fugue no. 2 in. C minor? I love your opinions about these pieces.
❤️ from India.
Yeah, if I return to Bach the C minor prelude is at the top of the list!
Wow, for the first time in my life i actually hear someone talk about the "wrong" rhythmical playing in the 'con bravura' (13:44) section! It bothers me so much... who says these slurs need to be accentuated in this way, completely destroying any rhythmical coherence?? After all, a slur still means binding, much more than accentuation! Still, i haven't heard a single pianist choosing differently here with this "dilemma"...
How do you deal with the pedal from Poco piu animato?I find it difficult to find the right spot in that section. It’s easy to drown everything with the pedal but if it’s not used enough it sounds dry.
it evokes Chopin or vice versa
Czy mogę prosić o ten utwór w interpretacji Musica Antigua Köln? Chodzi o dynamikę. Oni uważali, że zbyt wolno lub zbyt leniwie wykonujemy kompozycje z tamtych czasów.
❤❤❤❤
You provide some good analysis on the harmony, but what about the rhythm and metric accents? Try counting out loud the meter of the "etude" contrary sixths. The rhythmic accents indicated by slurs are in opposition to the rhythmic/metric accents. What do you make of this? There are other instances of this contradiction. You mention the A1 section (after the initial theme) starting with RH sixths melody starting on the second half of a measure, but sounding like the beginning of a measure. What did Chopin intend here? Could he have written the metric notation a different way? Still, good analysis of harmony.
I am new to music theory, but isn't the chord in m.32 an Em 6th chord and not a half diminished (10min15s on the video)? Thank you for an engaging video and very helpful analysis!
Hi Henrik,could you try to analyse 12 rhapsodies op 1 of Jan vaclav hugo vorisek and tell what you fel from them??i love your analysis and explanations,great job,please go on,it will be helpful for me at fifth Year at conservatory
Thank you Jan, I'm happy to hear it!
Have not heard of Jan Vaclav Vorisek, but I will check it out.
It sounds like a nocturne upon listening. I could probably play this just as easily as I can play Nocturne in Eb op. 9 no. 2 as I have played 2 voices in 1 hand, namely in Beethoven's Pathetique and Moonlight sonatas.
this song is alot more challenging that opus 9. Even though the middle section is easy to play separately but once you put those chromatic scales together it is very easy to make mistakes. However i think the beginning of the piece is as easy as the nocturne. both are great pieces.
The thing is you have to play like 4 notes on the right hand at the same time with good enough voicing.
Im sorry, but i feel nothing listening this piece playing like this. It's extremily touching if you put feelings of sadness on it. It is my humble opinion.
I personally dislike the slow rendition that's very mainstream....it creates a sort of unsettling feeling for me, I find more beauty in this interpretation that's not 'tristesse' and weepy 🥲
Whoever called this etude "tristesse" was pretty much drunk that day
It's perfect, you should play a bit slower tho
I actually think his tempo is perfect.
@@caterscarrots3407 tristesse literraly means sadness, I really like his performance but i would like it better slower.
I get a bit excited when I have to talk all the time hehe. There will be a separate performance video and I think I have a slightly more restrained tempo there when I can focus more on only the music.
@@lordbensmiteroflibtardoidl6639 but the nickname Tristesse was not given by Chopin
@@lordbensmiteroflibtardoidl6639 but chopin did not even intend it to be tristesse
I disagree with your interpretation of the level of sadness. I think it expresses a deep sadness and personal grief from all time in life that’s past and lost and what could have been and then a rage at the loss during the section of turbulent tritones and then back to a the sadness but in the recapitulation there is also acceptance that life is all these things
Great !
Not so much 'boring'. More like Ennui.
ennui, oui!
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