Great Video Kyle, I would add only 1 thing, and that is a dust mask or respirator to wear when using anything besides the saws. A nose full of fine dust makes for a long sleepless night of not being able to breath well.
GREAT Video, I have been searching for that exact info, i had already picked the MS170 but I am also getting a Worx electric saw for working inside my garage, you have some great videos with details that beginners really need, Thank You
Good job explaining the 1/4 pitch sprockets. I just got into carving, luckily I already got 3 because I burn firewood. But, I can't get a 1/4 pitch for any of the small saws, the husky 435 and t540xp, but I can get a rim sprocket set up for my 455 rancher, but it be nicer to detail with the smaller saws. So definitely make sure you can find a 1/4 pitch sprocket for your saw before you buy the saw.
I did find a 12" with 3/8 low profile that fits on the t540xp and that has really made a difference. I bet running the small 1/4 pitch .043 chain is really nice. Think I'm going to go with an electric for the smaller bar so I can do details in my shop, and a little more quiet for the neighbors.
hi kyle. great video. very helpful. i have just started power carving with a dremel after watching you , jordy, just carve rob and others. i watch all your videos and would love to chainsaw carve some day. thanks for your help. keep up the good work and stay safe.
I'm sure you have the grinder away already, but man I am so grateful for the videos. Just started, and I'm in love with the craft. Hard to find anyone willing to apprentice for, but I'll get it done no matter what. Thanks for the videos!
I don’t recommend that as a substitute. Chainsaw chaps have a fine string or fibers in them that bind the saw up and choke it out . I’m afraid the leather won’t do much
Been carving a while, started knife then bought a Pfeil midsize set, then a Foredom and a couple HF copies, evolved into power carving (partial) and built up a nice burning pen setup, so I guess I'm going into chainsaw carving backwards, I have a lot of the tools (I've had a couple of usable Husky saws for years), but just bought a HF Jawhorse copy (I consider it to be an essential tool to chainsaw carve, it either belongs with the saws or as a safety item. Secure workhoiding is high on my list for good carving and safe carving. Anyway I just subbed (you're still at 8.06k, been watching you for a while but been lazy) and wish you a rapid trip to 10K. I agree on the Saburrtooth stuff, I have a few pieces and love them all. I have 2 of the 2"d x 3/4"w Buzzouts (Green and Yellow), and a yellow 2"d x1/4"wide 'saw'. These just rock on a Foredom tool, but be careful running them slow, they like to grab and require full attention. My other goto is a yellow 1" cylinder (end cutting version), super for smoothing and gentle shaping. (Edit - one word of advice if anyone is considering the 3/4" wide Buzzouts, they are solid steel and quite heavy and such are like a heavy flywheel. I don't think they would be good at full die grinder speeds and seem at their best about 3000rpm or until you see burning on hard spots. These speeds are nearly full throttle on my Foredom TX square drive, and the Buzzouts work well on my HF flex shaft tools, but with less authority, so they ARE a good match for those tools). If using a die grinder, I'd recommend a speed control or variable speed die grinder and forget air powered die grinders. Hope to try my 1st saw carving soon, need to decide what it's going to be and go looking for wood (I have some land with a lot of unmanaged trees and dead wood, so I should be able to find something to practice on. Thanks for helping get me moving toward opening another door to my hobby.
This comment ! Thanks man . Yeah I did forget to mention the Jawhorse 🤦🏻♂️. It really is an essential tool in safety. I’m happy to hear your getting into chainsaw carving! I will say this is how it seems to work for me also . I have all kinds of tools to create all kinds of stuff ..
I don’t really know much about it honestly. I just looked it up quick and see it has a 3/8 pitch . If it were me I would check with the dealer and see if Stihl offers a 1/4 pitch sprocket for that saw. I personally would want to be able to run a detail/ dime tip bar and possibly be able to swap to a regular 1/4 pitch bar
Thank you for the videos! BUT, I haven't heard anything about the saw you will need to go get your wood, say you have to go and cut an old downed tree to get your rounds. Do I need a saw just for that too? Thank you!
Thanks for the nice video. I have collected storm wood I want to do some art with, so I am so glad I happened upon you by chance. What do you think of using a lighter weight battery chainsaw, for a woman? (& what size would you recommend?) Also, what about using angle grinder flap disks for the final step. I realize it is a different orientation, but I do have a supply of flap disks for an angle grinder that I've never tried yet. Thanks.
I prefer electric tools but the air compressor is nice to dust carvings off and your self after the day . Battery saws are nice . I block with the Stihl msa 220 and msa 200 then I have a msa160 with a dime tip bar for detail work
I wasn't sold on it at first, because I did the typical thing and didn't read the instructions. Once I looked on the bottom and found the variable speed toggle switch it was much easier to use for detailing
Hi Kyle...I'm over in the United Kingdom been following your carvings. I have a Jaw Horse imported from the States an MS170 fitted with the Cannon dime tip however the MS250 isn't available in the UK...do you know it the original bar, chain and sprocket off my MS170 will go straight onto the MS251 which is available in the UK ? Thanks in advance and keep that instruction coming I'm addicted to carving now 😂
That’s awesome Steve . I’m not really sure about the 251 . If you can go to a dealer you could ask . If they are not sure maybe they could pull the chain cover off a 170 and a 251 and you could look and see if they look the same . The sprockets would look similar. They might tell you know that won’t work but I’m sure they have never tried .
After a quick google search it looks like they are very similar saws with only minor differences. My (Guess) is you would be able to swap them out but again it’s just a guess
@@KyleHallwoodworker Thanks appreciate your help. Local Stihl dealer here in UK wont help much he always says " just keep to cutting firewood there not for carving"...Have answerd the questions on your new beginners Facebook site and it says pending I hope its OK to join even though I'm in the UK....I'm a very very beginner so far I have only attempted a Pumpkin and a Mushroom...Bear in a stump is next project . Can't wait to start it. Once again thanks for your videos, help and advice 👍
Good video Kyle. I'm ordering my chaps today. I didn't want to look like a Goober wearing them, but I see you, Ryan Cook and Jordy always wearing them..so I guess Chaps are standard. I will be trying to win the DeWalt die grinder and bits. My Metabo is old and wore out.
Thank you for taking the time out of you're busy schedule to show me what I need. I have three of the tools you suggested but at this time I can't afford any more and that grinder is one of them. I'm in a fixed income but have a passion to get started. Thanks again for sharing you're wisdom. I subscribed, liked, and shared.
Thanks for watching Tom ! Again this is just my opinion which is from my own experiences . If the cheaper tools are what’s in the budget then by all means buy them and make some sawdust. Stay safe and have fun
I would also like to add as some have commented below . Get a dust mask of some kind and a jawhorse! A jawhorse will hold those small carvings securely so you can carve . Also wanna add I see you 👎 person and because of you I appreciate my 👍🏻 people even more so thank you 👎 guy ! And to my 👍🏻 peeps keep being awesome!!😎
Lot helpful information on wood cravings. Thanks you very much on the video. That would be amazing to win the DIE GRINDER to help start wood craving. Thank you very much for helping me . I watch you all the time
I'm not really a chainsaw carver, not much of a carver. I just grind away at chunks of wood every now and then. I been lookin to get a die grinder and I just keep lookin at them. Harbor freight, Dewalt, HF, Dew, decisions decisions. You tube won't let me sub twice. Maybe I can un-sub and then re-sub, but I don't think that will increase your numbers so I'll stay as it is.
Hey I enjoyed you vids on the stihl electric saws. I'm going to start off in the middle with the 200 with 43 gauge chain? And 300s battery and the 500 charger. Then save up for the 160. Appreciate your help!
Hi Kyle. Not having any luck getting part number for 12” dime tip carving bar .043 gage for Stihl MSA 160. Dealer and distributor couldn’t help.
I'm going to make a note of this and try to post a short on it tomorrow. I'll be at my local dealer and will look it up right there
Appreciate the help.
excellent delivery, thanks Kyle!
Great Video Kyle, I would add only 1 thing, and that is a dust mask or respirator to wear when using anything besides the saws. A nose full of fine dust makes for a long sleepless night of not being able to breath well.
I agree I forgot the dust mask and Jawhorse. I will probably do another video like this in the future.
thks Kyle great info video im a beginer power carver dremel & fordom saving for a chainsaw in spring
You’re welcome Neil ! Good luck !
Thanks for the information and a sequence to acquire the tools.
You’re welcome Terry !
GREAT Video, I have been searching for that exact info, i had already picked the MS170 but I am also getting a Worx electric saw for working inside my garage, you have some great videos with details that beginners really need, Thank You
Great video. Very informative can’t wait to carve my first bear. Your detailed information & delivery great love it. Thank you. Keep them coming
Thank you Jan
Awesome video for beginners, I just went through all this with sprocket and chain issues. Thanks man. I learned hard way. This will help people
You’re welcome Larry thanks for watching!
Excellent information! Very helpful!
Thank you
Good job explaining the 1/4 pitch sprockets. I just got into carving, luckily I already got 3 because I burn firewood. But, I can't get a 1/4 pitch for any of the small saws, the husky 435 and t540xp, but I can get a rim sprocket set up for my 455 rancher, but it be nicer to detail with the smaller saws. So definitely make sure you can find a 1/4 pitch sprocket for your saw before you buy the saw.
I did find a 12" with 3/8 low profile that fits on the t540xp and that has really made a difference. I bet running the small 1/4 pitch .043 chain is really nice. Think I'm going to go with an electric for the smaller bar so I can do details in my shop, and a little more quiet for the neighbors.
There you go that’s a good idea . I run gas saws in my carving spot out in the country then battery saws art home in town .
Great video, thanks. My choice for clearcoat is automotive urethane from a spray gun.
Thanks Tim. I haven’t tried that on carvings . I have used in auto body repair though
hi kyle. great video. very helpful. i have just started power carving with a dremel after watching you , jordy, just carve rob and others. i watch all your videos and would love to chainsaw carve some day. thanks for your help. keep up the good work and stay safe.
Thanks Ian !
I'm sure you have the grinder away already, but man I am so grateful for the videos. Just started, and I'm in love with the craft.
Hard to find anyone willing to apprentice for, but I'll get it done no matter what.
Thanks for the videos!
i love the light on the end of the dewalt grinder i love mine for sure 20v baby extreme.
hi kyle. just subscribed and liked. thanks again. stay safe.
Instead of chaps could I use my leather apron from when I do forging?
I don’t recommend that as a substitute. Chainsaw chaps have a fine string or fibers in them that bind the saw up and choke it out . I’m afraid the leather won’t do much
Been carving a while, started knife then bought a Pfeil midsize set, then a Foredom and a couple HF copies, evolved into power carving (partial) and built up a nice burning pen setup, so I guess I'm going into chainsaw carving backwards, I have a lot of the tools (I've had a couple of usable Husky saws for years), but just bought a HF Jawhorse copy (I consider it to be an essential tool to chainsaw carve, it either belongs with the saws or as a safety item. Secure workhoiding is high on my list for good carving and safe carving. Anyway I just subbed (you're still at 8.06k, been watching you for a while but been lazy) and wish you a rapid trip to 10K.
I agree on the Saburrtooth stuff, I have a few pieces and love them all. I have 2 of the 2"d x 3/4"w Buzzouts (Green and Yellow), and a yellow 2"d x1/4"wide 'saw'. These just rock on a Foredom tool, but be careful running them slow, they like to grab and require full attention. My other goto is a yellow 1" cylinder (end cutting version), super for smoothing and gentle shaping. (Edit - one word of advice if anyone is considering the 3/4" wide Buzzouts, they are solid steel and quite heavy and such are like a heavy flywheel. I don't think they would be good at full die grinder speeds and seem at their best about 3000rpm or until you see burning on hard spots. These speeds are nearly full throttle on my Foredom TX square drive, and the Buzzouts work well on my HF flex shaft tools, but with less authority, so they ARE a good match for those tools). If using a die grinder, I'd recommend a speed control or variable speed die grinder and forget air powered die grinders.
Hope to try my 1st saw carving soon, need to decide what it's going to be and go looking for wood (I have some land with a lot of unmanaged trees and dead wood, so I should be able to find something to practice on.
Thanks for helping get me moving toward opening another door to my hobby.
This comment ! Thanks man . Yeah I did forget to mention the Jawhorse 🤦🏻♂️. It really is an essential tool in safety. I’m happy to hear your getting into chainsaw carving! I will say this is how it seems to work for me also . I have all kinds of tools to create all kinds of stuff ..
Great video very informative 👍👍👍👍👍👍
Thanks Colin !
Is the Stihl MSE 170C a good saw to buy for carving. Thanks
I don’t really know much about it honestly. I just looked it up quick and see it has a 3/8 pitch . If it were me I would check with the dealer and see if Stihl offers a 1/4 pitch sprocket for that saw. I personally would want to be able to run a detail/ dime tip bar and possibly be able to swap to a regular 1/4 pitch bar
Thank you for the videos! BUT, I haven't heard anything about the saw you will need to go get your wood, say you have to go and cut an old downed tree to get your rounds. Do I need a saw just for that too? Thank you!
I Dont Know 😂 Love it
🤷🏼♂️😂
Great info .
Thanks Glen !
Thanks for the nice video. I have collected storm wood I want to do some art with, so I am so glad I happened upon you by chance. What do you think of using a lighter weight battery chainsaw, for a woman? (& what size would you recommend?) Also, what about using angle grinder flap disks for the final step. I realize it is a different orientation, but I do have a supply of flap disks for an angle grinder that I've never tried yet. Thanks.
And what do you think of instead getting a pneumatic die grinder + air compressor?
I prefer electric tools but the air compressor is nice to dust carvings off and your self after the day . Battery saws are nice . I block with the Stihl msa 220 and msa 200 then I have a msa160 with a dime tip bar for detail work
Thanks for the video Kyle im surprised you don't have a power file included in here. I love my makita 8902
I don’t have the Makita yet . I plan to get one
I wasn't sold on it at first, because I did the typical thing and didn't read the instructions. Once I looked on the bottom and found the variable speed toggle switch it was much easier to use for detailing
Hi Kyle...I'm over in the United Kingdom been following your carvings. I have a Jaw Horse imported from the States an MS170 fitted with the Cannon dime tip however the MS250 isn't available in the UK...do you know it the original bar, chain and sprocket off my MS170 will go straight onto the MS251 which is available in the UK ? Thanks in advance and keep that instruction coming I'm addicted to carving now 😂
That’s awesome Steve . I’m not really sure about the 251 . If you can go to a dealer you could ask . If they are not sure maybe they could pull the chain cover off a 170 and a 251 and you could look and see if they look the same . The sprockets would look similar. They might tell you know that won’t work but I’m sure they have never tried .
After a quick google search it looks like they are very similar saws with only minor differences. My (Guess) is you would be able to swap them out but again it’s just a guess
@@KyleHallwoodworker Thanks appreciate your help. Local Stihl dealer here in UK wont help much he always says " just keep to cutting firewood there not for carving"...Have answerd the questions on your new beginners Facebook site and it says pending I hope its OK to join even though I'm in the UK....I'm a very very beginner so far I have only attempted a Pumpkin and a Mushroom...Bear in a stump is next project . Can't wait to start it. Once again thanks for your videos, help and advice 👍
Good video Kyle. I'm ordering my chaps today. I didn't want to look like a Goober wearing them, but I see you, Ryan Cook and Jordy always wearing them..so I guess Chaps are standard. I will be trying to win the DeWalt die grinder and bits. My Metabo is old and wore out.
You would look like more of a goober bleeding out in you back yard.
Awesome Jeffro glad to hear it ! Get them ordered ! Lol . Thanks for the comment and thanks for watching!
That's funny Sea-Doo GTI..lol
i cant get a sand o flex in the uk ? :(
Uh bummer ! You can make a similar one with a bolt and belt sander paper.
Thank you for taking the time out of you're busy schedule to show me what I need. I have three of the tools you suggested but at this time I can't afford any more and that grinder is one of them. I'm in a fixed income but have a passion to get started. Thanks again for sharing you're wisdom. I subscribed, liked, and shared.
FYI I use the Harbor Freight cheap grinders and they last way better than the $10 I pay for them on sale.
Thanks for watching Tom ! Again this is just my opinion which is from my own experiences . If the cheaper tools are what’s in the budget then by all means buy them and make some sawdust. Stay safe and have fun
I would also like to add as some have commented below . Get a dust mask of some kind and a jawhorse! A jawhorse will hold those small carvings securely so you can carve .
Also wanna add I see you 👎 person and because of you I appreciate my 👍🏻 people even more so thank you 👎 guy ! And to my 👍🏻 peeps keep being awesome!!😎
Lot helpful information on wood cravings. Thanks you very much on the video. That would be amazing to win the DIE GRINDER to help start wood craving. Thank you very much for helping me . I watch you all the time
You’re welcome Mike ! Thanks for watching!
I'm not really a chainsaw carver, not much of a carver. I just grind away at chunks of wood every now and then. I been lookin to get a die grinder and I just keep lookin at them. Harbor freight, Dewalt, HF, Dew, decisions decisions.
You tube won't let me sub twice. Maybe I can un-sub and then re-sub, but I don't think that will increase your numbers so I'll stay as it is.
Lol 😂 thanks Rick ! Thanks for the comment and watching. Yeah choices Choices man lol
Do you know? 😮😂😅
The muffin man ?
Hey I enjoyed you vids on the stihl electric saws. I'm going to start off in the middle with the 200 with 43 gauge chain? And 300s battery and the 500 charger. Then save up for the 160. Appreciate your help!
Loven it, BUT flip flops or crooks an a chainsaw, turn in your man card.
Really ! Jeez I thought it was manlier because there’s nothing protecting those piggy’s . Lol
Please for the love of God and all that's holy don't buy a Craftsman product.
Is the Stihl MSE 170C electric a good saw to buy for carving. Thanks