Welding Vs Clamping

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  • Опубликовано: 5 окт 2024
  • mike show a brief video of how the industry has changed to welding vs clamping and how this can change the life of the system by many years

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  • @kevinwedman2452
    @kevinwedman2452 Год назад +80

    I put new dual exhaust with glass packs on my square body chevy and I clamped it. It's been sounding awesome for over 8 years now

    • @markwarren5644
      @markwarren5644 Год назад +4

      Welded connections are best, less heat transfer means less moisture, means less rust

    • @midnightrider1854
      @midnightrider1854 Год назад +2

      I agree that properly welded connections are the best if done correctly as you stated about heat transfer, welding causes it badly and will induce rusting quicker than properly installed stainless band clamps, in my opinion as long as the pine tapers are running in the right direction (smaller feeding into larger diameter) then there shouldn't be any moisture trapped in the clamp joints. Again, this is just my opinion. I'm not as experienced as the host with exhaust but I do have over 30yrs as a dealer trained mechanic and started out installing exhaust for many years.

    • @Fee.1
      @Fee.1 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@midnightrider1854want to start an exhaust company ? Looking for someone that knows a few things

    • @midnightrider1854
      @midnightrider1854 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@Fee.1 Lol Thank you for the offer but I am at the end of my career. And that part of my life that I want to sit on the back deck in the sun drinking a cold one and thinking about the poor bastards that still have to go to work every day. 🤣

    • @Fee.1
      @Fee.1 11 месяцев назад

      @@midnightrider1854 so we team up, you give me some technical insights occasionally, you sit back and do your thing and collect your checks. Should basically never require a in person meeting unless I’m failing to foresee something. I can just ship you prototypes.

  • @alexmiller499
    @alexmiller499 10 месяцев назад +2

    I put em on both ways. They make some really nice clamps now and if take the time to swell and fit the pipe,it comes in handy when you take a Y pipe off to remove a transmission and put it back on without welding and cutting

  • @mgmnfld3109
    @mgmnfld3109 Год назад +17

    I've never seen dual muffs mounted vertical like this, not to mention how clean the rest of the job is.

    • @dirtyaznstyle4156
      @dirtyaznstyle4156 Год назад +2

      A lot of pickups I’ve seen have the oem muffler mounted like that. It’s just doubled up

  • @promaterial
    @promaterial 11 месяцев назад +18

    The places where the pipe is welded always seems to be the first spot to rust.

    • @mpiexhausttechnologies
      @mpiexhausttechnologies  9 месяцев назад +1

      thanks for your question, with our weld together Kits that's why we recommend Painting the weld joints with BT53 Paint, this will eliminate that concern,

  • @thunderbolt9797
    @thunderbolt9797 11 месяцев назад +12

    Personally, I like to put a clamp on each side of the muffler in 99-06 Silverado and Sierras and weld everything else. The reason being, if for whatever reason the exhaust needs to come out, it can be dismantled easily in 3 main pieces.

    • @mpiexhausttechnologies
      @mpiexhausttechnologies  9 месяцев назад

      thank you for your question, we have systems in a clamp-together option for that specific reason,

  • @thespacedpirate
    @thespacedpirate 9 месяцев назад +2

    I do 3 bolt flanges on the ones I do so i can remove the transmission withoug having to cut the exhaust off. Keeps it serviceable

  • @jkink8049
    @jkink8049 10 месяцев назад

    Sounds like a time I would’ve loved to live in

  • @AnonYmous-kd9el
    @AnonYmous-kd9el 8 месяцев назад

    Good job! maybe some of us youngsters will pick up on it, I know I will.

  • @bloomWF
    @bloomWF 3 месяца назад

    This is beautiful!

  • @Denis-tu1pd
    @Denis-tu1pd 9 месяцев назад

    In Santa Rosa CA we have a muffler shop welded exhaust system back in 1955 .

  • @Retadin
    @Retadin 3 месяца назад

    2017 Ram 1500 stock exhaust is band clamps, for the muffler.

  • @joeb7168
    @joeb7168 11 месяцев назад +2

    I got away with using exhaust clamps a lot of times, I hacked my exhaust up one time clamped it together with scrap and had to weld the clamp to fill the gap 🤣

  • @midwesternwelds1197
    @midwesternwelds1197 Год назад +15

    Say the 200k miles again to the people at home in Michigan.

    • @giftdcam8472
      @giftdcam8472 11 месяцев назад +2

      😂😂😂 I was thinking the same for us Illinois people too.. our states get salt put on the roads

    • @trekinseattle
      @trekinseattle 11 месяцев назад +3

      That's called a stupid tax.... You gotta be stupid to live there where you have to pay tens of thousands extra because of rust damage. Here in WA? 30 years 300,000 not one speck of rust. Also nearly zero UV damage. We throw away perfect body cars cuz we're rich, and care about the environment soo much

    • @PaulRudd1941
      @PaulRudd1941 11 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@trekinseattle Up north from you in BC, we also have basically no rust on our vehicles. Saskatchewan is a different story lol.

    • @allurared9029
      @allurared9029 11 месяцев назад +4

      ​@@trekinseattleYeah because its just so easy for anyone to get up and move. Not like 40% of Americans couldnt afford a sudden $400 expense 🙄

    • @toodjackson4438
      @toodjackson4438 11 месяцев назад

      New York here too

  • @rickchambers73
    @rickchambers73 10 месяцев назад

    Boy i remember i had a 66 Galaxie 427 duel.quads 4 speed 456 gears. With Cherry bombs off the collectors. Loud loud. Back in the 70s

  • @parkwehrley9088
    @parkwehrley9088 Год назад

    O seriously!!! good luck. if any engine makes it but a diesel now a days makes it more then 200.000 miles . is a serious miracle !

  • @ghunt81
    @ghunt81 4 месяца назад

    If you're talking the old guillotine style clamps, then yeah don't use those. But modern band clamps are awesome and actually let you take stuff apart later. I tend to switch out mufflers after awhile and band clamps make that super easy.

  • @TheManic.5-OH
    @TheManic.5-OH Год назад +3

    God forbid you want to change the sound up out of that miraculous 200-300k mile exhaust system though!

    • @White000Crow
      @White000Crow 10 месяцев назад

      They did cut the old exhaust out. Couldn’t they just cut it out again?

  • @andreyshcherbinskiy6873
    @andreyshcherbinskiy6873 5 месяцев назад

    Can I weld any muffler vertically ?

  • @daxlangeveld6053
    @daxlangeveld6053 11 месяцев назад

    What is that box for my truck doesn’t have one?

  • @Wreck6987
    @Wreck6987 Год назад +4

    200k huh. Ever been to Minnesota

    • @mpiexhausttechnologies
      @mpiexhausttechnologies  Год назад +1

      Absolutely ✅ works in all climates, we have a 3 year warranty also

    • @krislink1761
      @krislink1761 10 месяцев назад +1

      You're putting 200k miles in 3 years, lol. I sincerely hope that's 304 stainless steel, otherwise she's coming off in the rust belt

  • @gearsnstuff7330
    @gearsnstuff7330 11 месяцев назад +2

    And heaven forbid you want to take the exhaust out for any reason, like so you can reuse it out after an engine/transmission swap. The factory isn't doing what's better, they're just doing what makes them more money on repairs, and is cheaper going down the assembly line. Hard to admit in the 21st century, but sometimes the old timers knew what they were doing.

  • @waynep343
    @waynep343 Год назад +5

    A friend with a 62 Buick had put the points in wrong. Cranked and pumped the gas for so long. I spotted the issue and told him to try it. Kaboom. A massive explosion under the car. My pants legs were flapping like i was riding a motorcycle. I laid down and looked under the car and started laughing. I was laughing so hard my ribs were cramping. Yes i was rolling on the ground laughing my azz off. He got out of the car and started kicking me. Stop laughing at my car. I'm not laughing at your car. I am laughing at how you are ever going to explain that to midas for a 2 hour old muffler in for a warranty. The muffler skin was laying flat on the ground. That muffler skin stayed nailed to the midas shop wall for the next 20 years.

    • @thatboykarloz
      @thatboykarloz 11 месяцев назад

      What did y'all tell Midas that happen to the muffler

  • @richardcook1480
    @richardcook1480 9 месяцев назад

    I have a 69 torino. Cherry Boomb since 1977 still on there. Blaa black sure been a long year

  • @BILLSCHMIDT49
    @BILLSCHMIDT49 Год назад

    Do you install full stainless exhaust system?

  • @Bill-dc3so
    @Bill-dc3so 11 месяцев назад +1

    Last longer why is that you didn’t explain why. I put my exhaust on my Escalade in 10 minutes whit clamp on never had a problem in fact now with everything welded if there’s a problem with any part now you need to replace the hole thing or cut the part off instead of two bolts an it pops out

  • @brandonstennes4931
    @brandonstennes4931 11 месяцев назад

    Was the pipe work done in house?.

    • @mpiexhausttechnologies
      @mpiexhausttechnologies  11 месяцев назад

      yes, this is our MPI Exhaust Kit this specific truck was a 5.3L Chevy

  • @RJ-lk5pj
    @RJ-lk5pj Год назад +1

    You need struts on your garage door sections..

  • @RJ-lk5pj
    @RJ-lk5pj Год назад +2

    Steer clear of the Kmart specials on auto repairs

  • @LeoBruneau-l6v
    @LeoBruneau-l6v 9 месяцев назад

    Truth

  • @benlalime8543
    @benlalime8543 Год назад

    What about the cross over pipe

  • @richardp3624
    @richardp3624 Год назад

    Bring on the stash!

  • @JohnSmith-ty1vn
    @JohnSmith-ty1vn Год назад +1

    I got a jon boat from monkeywards title is from the 70s.....thing still hits the lake every summer .joker is heavy buy built to last

  • @druumb2305
    @druumb2305 10 месяцев назад

    Man I put on 1 years at Meineke in the early 90s for &19.95.

  • @ryderhartmann2028
    @ryderhartmann2028 Год назад +1

    I never had a problem with a clamp

    • @Rfgtghgfggfsfhlihb
      @Rfgtghgfggfsfhlihb 11 месяцев назад +1

      I've never had a problem out of them either everybody always complains about exhaust u-bolts they'll never hold it will fall off but they never complain about the ones that hold their axle on.

  • @moparfreak1969
    @moparfreak1969 11 месяцев назад

    Mine is clamped and cobbled. And it's going strong at two hundred and forty seven thousand 😮

  • @karrpilot7092
    @karrpilot7092 Год назад

    I got over 200K before the muffler went on my Pontiac. Then I had a shop weld on a Flow Master to the stock pipe.

  • @paulcondie2520
    @paulcondie2520 11 месяцев назад

    In my experience were the muffler is welded will be the first to fail! I will never have another muffler welded on. Exhaust pipe is different

  • @ultimateormus7903
    @ultimateormus7903 10 месяцев назад

    I live in Arkansas and few people have mufflers, or they are almost all chopped off or dragging the ground. Mostly going to and from meth houses.

  • @bookhamerfamily497
    @bookhamerfamily497 4 месяца назад

    If it got 200 300k miles then i wouldnt need to be repairing it with ubolts and hose clamps now would I? Factory doesnt mean right

  • @centraltexasfoxbodies
    @centraltexasfoxbodies 10 месяцев назад +4

    Up north you can't weld the exhaust, you have to clamp it because it'll rust if you weld it

    • @krislink1761
      @krislink1761 10 месяцев назад +1

      Agreed, unless it's 304 ss. It will rust and fall off faster than being clamped

    • @centraltexasfoxbodies
      @centraltexasfoxbodies 10 месяцев назад +3

      @krislink1761 my dad grew up up north that's the only reason that I know that.

    • @bigduphusaj162
      @bigduphusaj162 8 месяцев назад +1

      the reason that happens is you are using the wrong type stick mate. It happens on stainless if you use just Argon. You need some helium in there

    • @centraltexasfoxbodies
      @centraltexasfoxbodies 8 месяцев назад

      @bigduphusaj162 even if it's the wrong stick, it' won't pass state inspection.

    • @krislink1761
      @krislink1761 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@bigduphusaj162 as a 20 year welder fabricator, don't give anymore welding advice bud

  • @apachebill
    @apachebill 9 месяцев назад +1

    I got clamps on my 70 Lemans older than you are. 😂

  • @kevincoulimbe3974
    @kevincoulimbe3974 10 месяцев назад

    Back in the old days of Muffler of the pipe the clam all came to maybe $10 today you're looking at $1,000 it better last a long time

  • @pacolapala
    @pacolapala 9 месяцев назад

    My jeep has a clamped muffler since 2001. Muffler is rusted out but clamps are holding tight… nothing wrong with owners clamping things… exhaust shops on the other hand need to weld. Thats what you’re getting paid to do.

  • @Derbittguy
    @Derbittguy 5 месяцев назад

    So you warranty all of your exhaust systems for 2 or 300,000 miles against rust??? You must do a lot of warranty work because those vertical muffflers are going to rot out way before that.

    • @mpiexhausttechnologies
      @mpiexhausttechnologies  5 месяцев назад

      Thank you for your question, With all new Emission systems having a higher operation temperature vs older 80-90's vehicles you wont every have a problem with.

  • @Jaseh5710
    @Jaseh5710 9 месяцев назад

    I just use clamps cause I’m too lazy to get out the welder

  • @Firstlastname000
    @Firstlastname000 9 месяцев назад

    Clamps👍

  • @aliaswizard6963
    @aliaswizard6963 Месяц назад

    Everybody knows that we clamp in order to do a simple upgrade not having to take it in. You can do that in your yard!

  • @MrMark1325
    @MrMark1325 10 месяцев назад

    The materials is probably a bigger reason than weld vs clamps. Old days everything rusted out and fell off.

  • @anthonyedwards1087
    @anthonyedwards1087 10 месяцев назад

    So you're implying that a welded muffler will last much longer than a clamped muffler? I can absolutely attest from personal experience that is 100% not true.

  • @kaedyncopper12
    @kaedyncopper12 9 месяцев назад

    Never would it last that long here in the northeast,all the treatment put on the roads in the winter time. That slurry stuff they put down is awful,if you don't wash it off after every winter it eats metal like nothing. Stuff literally sticks to everything and leaves a coating on everything.

    • @mpiexhausttechnologies
      @mpiexhausttechnologies  9 месяцев назад

      Thank you for your question, we have many systems with those numbers in that area,

  • @robertduran1945
    @robertduran1945 11 месяцев назад

    I'm going to make an appointment at Kmart quality work 559 get er done😅😅

  • @Dieselmd2008
    @Dieselmd2008 10 месяцев назад

    Factory exhaust is not welded there clamped

  • @f.chrisliuzzo7889
    @f.chrisliuzzo7889 Год назад

    If it’s 400 series stainless you’ll get that many years! But in the rust belt maybe 10 yrs

  • @frosttvy1154
    @frosttvy1154 11 месяцев назад

    Dude this guy looks like Steve Irwin wtf 😱

  • @bobrollans8460
    @bobrollans8460 9 месяцев назад

    How are you going to get 300k out of that exhaust system when that car doesn't have 300k left in it .

  • @andyb9994
    @andyb9994 9 месяцев назад

    Factory exhaust is the best....

    • @mpiexhausttechnologies
      @mpiexhausttechnologies  9 месяцев назад +1

      thank you for your question, so on a Hemi 5.7L, for example, we gain 30 TQ and 26 HP with a 3.7 MPG increase with our MPI Exhaust System. Just exhaust no tuning,

  • @182turtel
    @182turtel Год назад +1

    Good luck with 300,000 out of new shit

  • @repairmanjoe8081
    @repairmanjoe8081 10 месяцев назад

    That's all great if its stainless, but if you live in the rust belt, that system will NOT last no 2 or 300,000 miles! Welded or clamped. Guaranteed!

  • @ABeans07
    @ABeans07 5 месяцев назад

    VW Audi uses clamps OEM

  • @king-blizzard99
    @king-blizzard99 9 месяцев назад

    What about a car that will last that long

  • @ansonwill1999
    @ansonwill1999 2 месяца назад

    Not in Michigan

  • @edwardb5501
    @edwardb5501 Год назад +1

    Yup I actually remember when Kmart used to do that.

  • @MartinRobinson-w1k
    @MartinRobinson-w1k 11 месяцев назад

    Stainless maybe

  • @NoName-tz5ji
    @NoName-tz5ji 11 месяцев назад

    It worked better and longer than you think kid

  • @jdizzle340
    @jdizzle340 11 месяцев назад

    Garbage shops weld everything, now its not serviceable or removable for other work to be done. Always pie cut and use flat band clamps. And , no flowmaster will last that long, they rot out, especially if theyre the knock offs

    • @mpiexhausttechnologies
      @mpiexhausttechnologies  11 месяцев назад

      Howdy, with all our MPI Exhasut Technologies Series kits they will last that long,

  • @CH-fh9hp
    @CH-fh9hp 10 месяцев назад

    Those two mufflers side by side like that are gonna catch and hold so much crap and rot out in a year or two

    • @mpiexhausttechnologies
      @mpiexhausttechnologies  10 месяцев назад

      Howdy, thanks you so much for you question. with our all MPI Mufflers we have never had that problem, all products are also backed with a 3 Year Warranty.

  • @Rfgtghgfggfsfhlihb
    @Rfgtghgfggfsfhlihb 11 месяцев назад

    Just to let people know if AU bolt cannot hold your exhaust how come you can hold your axle on?

    • @mpiexhausttechnologies
      @mpiexhausttechnologies  11 месяцев назад

      howdy, thanks for your question, the axle doesn't see the same hot and cold cycles the exhaust does. Exhaust temperature reaches around 1250 Degrees at the hottest.

  • @master6435
    @master6435 Год назад

    Ahh what exhaust shop don't weld exhaust pipes...

  • @dirtyaznstyle4156
    @dirtyaznstyle4156 Год назад +1

    The hole in the muffler after a year makes it sound racy

    • @mikeznel6048
      @mikeznel6048 Год назад +1

      That’s not a cheap auto zone made in india muffler out of old 55 gallon drums…

  • @Star-fc4ni
    @Star-fc4ni 10 месяцев назад

    My dad would never buy a chevy ever!

  • @TraceyPruitt
    @TraceyPruitt Год назад

    The install looks great! Please don't say those are Garbage Master Flow Junkster mufflers. If so, why would you drive something that sounds like your Grandpa farting? Keep up the pro looking install, just dump the FM brand!

    • @jonowens460
      @jonowens460 11 месяцев назад

      Flow Masters awful😂any of that sounds like shit. Thrush Turbo's❤ I work in a muffler shop and this is how we configure them too.😮

  • @george420
    @george420 5 месяцев назад

    unless that's stainless steel. ain't no way you'll get over 200000miles.

  • @Randald
    @Randald Год назад

    How much have you had to drink tonight?

  • @kevinharms7578
    @kevinharms7578 11 месяцев назад

    Looks stainless.

  • @2nd66tube2
    @2nd66tube2 10 месяцев назад

    not as a daily in the rust belt

  • @jasonjaros1385
    @jasonjaros1385 11 месяцев назад

    Hangs so low. You should tie some rolor skates on it

  • @calypso4396
    @calypso4396 Год назад

    2-300k miles huh? And it'll cost ya a months pay to get it

  • @joeluisramirez
    @joeluisramirez 11 месяцев назад

    Montgomery wards auto center,,,,,it was more like $59ask me how i know

  • @renatoaraujo7383
    @renatoaraujo7383 11 месяцев назад

    Just wait you will have problems with welding those Mufflers together

    • @mpiexhausttechnologies
      @mpiexhausttechnologies  11 месяцев назад +1

      thanks for your question, when welded together they will last the entire life the the vehicle

  • @richardalletag1129
    @richardalletag1129 Год назад

    80.000

  • @ron8935
    @ron8935 Год назад

    But you won't get two or three hundred thousand out of the truck....

  • @skylararendt7074
    @skylararendt7074 Год назад

    American Crocodile Dundee

  • @1985FieroGT
    @1985FieroGT 11 месяцев назад

    Join the 20th century? I think you're of by 100 years, join the 21st century.

  • @rainey3303
    @rainey3303 Год назад

    Welding then is all good till you have to change the cat

  • @RandyPeltier-z4d
    @RandyPeltier-z4d 9 месяцев назад

    2 or 300k really. Everything sounded good till you said that bs

    • @mpiexhausttechnologies
      @mpiexhausttechnologies  9 месяцев назад

      Thank you for your Questions, We have a good amount of customers who have reached those numbers, and we understand it is an uncommon number to hear, buts it's very common for an MPI Exhaust System,

  • @davewilliams8134
    @davewilliams8134 11 месяцев назад

    Who cares what you do or how you do it you say

  • @ronpeters9548
    @ronpeters9548 9 месяцев назад

    Sorry pal , but I can't agree with you .

  • @kalebborders4004
    @kalebborders4004 10 месяцев назад

    Factorys have always OEM welded them only shitty lil shops use clamp

  • @Brian-nl1ok
    @Brian-nl1ok Год назад

    2 200,000/300,000 miles …? Do you have any proof of this? Or is that just subjective guess.?
    Have you actually had any last that long as what I’m asking?
    Do you know the old saying… Trust, but verify…!

    • @mpiexhausttechnologies
      @mpiexhausttechnologies  Год назад +2

      Yes many, one that we use almost everyday is 20 year and 380,000 mile✅

    • @dennisgreiwe2078
      @dennisgreiwe2078 Год назад

      @@boggindeepfuggum6916 probably not in the rust belt

  • @Mike_hocksbig69
    @Mike_hocksbig69 8 месяцев назад

    My issue is every welded exhaust i’ve seen is full of boogers and splattered everywhere

  • @dicktomasko1553
    @dicktomasko1553 9 месяцев назад

    Not in the salt 3 years