I have had a tsl60 for almost 20 years. Its amazing, I paid 200 second hand around 2003. It is actually designed with pedals in mind. It does take some mastering but once done you can get almost anything out of these.
@@Donnie_Thornberry when I bought mine I regularly played pub and club gigs with it on ten. Sadly I was still learning then so playing was awful, but the tones were mega 😂
I guess people didn't like it back then because it didn't work well with v30s. It sounded awesome through my 5150 cab back then but it have this overheating issue. Does the 60 watt or combo version have the same heating issue?
I have a TSL 602, built in the fourth week of 2005. When I first started to use it, I liked it. It was my first Marshall. The love affair soon wore off, and it sat in the corner for three years as I was using my Mesa Stiletto Deuce. One day I decided for shits and giggles to rip the TSL apart down to the guts. I installed Mercury Magnetics Axiom Line power and output transformers and choke. NOS preamp tubes and retained the stock Marshall el-34 power tubes. I built a head cabinet for it as well and use it with the EVH 4X12 'Stealth' cabinet loaded with the Celestion EVH speakers. I also have the head hooked up to a Monster power conditioner that is fed AC from a twenty (20) amp variac set to about 93-95 volts. There aren't any modifications to the circuit whatsoever. I only bolted on some choice premium parts. The way that TSL 602 sounds and behaves now with its mods and less the Wolverine speakers, is beyond unbelievable BROWN SOUND. EVH Atomica in a box. An unbelievable amplifier. So, there is my TSL 602 story. Cheers!
I have the TSL100 212 combo with the 212 extension cab. It’s ace. Sounds great as you say, even at low volume. The combo cost £350 on eBay and the extension cabinet (which is specifically for the amp) was £125! Amazing value. Great video👍😎
I gigged one solid for 6yrs it was brilliant, still got it had to change the mother board because of the PCB going conductive, it's a fabulous gigging amp if you put a din socket in the footswitch and change the small LEDs for bigger coloured ones that match the channel colours, and the dummy jack in the effects loop to control the volume for home use is a great hack
I bought mine when they first came out Jan ‘99. The 122 combo with extra cab. Had to replace the main board in 2015 because of the heat causing bias jump. Marshall sent a new board even though it was long out of warranty. My amp tech really set it up great. Next to my Bluesbreaker, it’s my favorite amp. Your right that crunch channel is its selling point. I have one Les Paul with 496/500 pickups, and that guitar sounds incredible on the lead channel. Unfortunately the mother board problems gave this amp a black eye that it will never lose. But the guys that slam them are mostly going by word of mouth. You have to work with it, but they are great amps.
i have THIS AMP for 10+ years. I have other amps.. BUT!!!!!!!!! MY friends always want to hear the marshall stack. THIER JAWS DROP when they hear how i got it set up. Than comes >> WHY DONT MY MARSHALL SOUND LIKE THAT>!!! AND SMILES!!!!!!!!!!! TSL FOR EVER.. i also own the combo 212 tsl. :) 1 is not enough.
Gigged with it for 10 years . Great amp . What people often overlook is that if you want a classic Marshall tone you need to crank the mids on the TSL. It is a bit scooped in the mids . This is right in the manual . I love my TSL 60
Hey man, bit late to the thread.. I have had 4 a TSLs all in all at different times.. fell in love with the look of the amp as a teenager with a Valvestate 100 combo and bought my TSL122 combo in 1999. Such a great sounding amp and never had any issues with it right up until trading up to the head and 1960a cab in around 2004. Man that first head that I owned was the best sounding amp on the planet. Sounded so wicked. Chopped that in for a JVM around 2006 - hated it and immediately got rid and bought another TSL. Disappointingly, the 2nd TSL to me didn’t quite sound as good as my old one, which is a right ball bag, but.. having learned how to bias these things recently(so easy!) I’ve now got it singing. Stick a Boss SD1 or EHX Crayon in front of it and this thing sounds sick as. Oh and I did buy a mint second hand TSL122 a couple of years ago but recently got rid - surplus to requirements 😂 The amps are definitely not shit! Don’t know where some people pull their info from but some haters clearly have never actually heard one in the flesh, let alone played through one that has been properly dialled in. Great vid by the mate 👍🏼
I love this amp! I bought mine around 2004. Run it with. Marshall 1960 lead 4x12 & 1936 lead 2x12.. playing my Gibson 1957 Les Paul Black Beauty & Gretsch 1955 White Falcon.. It sound beast! I have played Jcm 800's before and there is no question that they are incredible heads.. but I wanted a 3rd lead channel.. All I need for that push for a lead solo is that 3rd channel... I never realized there was so much hate for the TSL? If you dial it in and play through great sounding guitars it is amazing!! Everyone has their own sound in their head they are trying to match... For me it's the TSL with vintage unicorn guitars.. Thanks for the video!!!
I own this amp and it’s a powerhouse. As long as you can get one made after the bias drift issue was corrected you can pretty much get any guitar tone and power you want from it and shake a house while you’re at it.
its a brilliant amp i gigged one for six years solid it has a great clean, lots of gain on the crunch channel, brilliant lead tone, the only downsides are the hard wired footswitch cable ( changed mine to a din plug and put bigger coloured leds in ) and the dreaded bias drift problem that kills them, i put the new upgraded board in mine its like a new amp now, easy to bias yourself and the fuses are panel mounted unlike the jvm, but since i discovered the boss katana i dont use it anymore
Nice to see great quality demo review videos of out of production amps, i'm looking on the 2nd hand market often so these kinds of videos are helpful thanks...
Had one of these since early 2000s, great head, I had issues with some cracked solder joints on the PCB with the foot switch input and speaker outputs, was an easy fix. Amp is still going strong too.
I have the JVM 410 and DSL, my buddy I jam with has the TSL 2000 they all sound great 👍. Just remember folks a Marshall is Marshall just what flavor do you like. 😉 And it's all about the EQ'ing of the amp
I absolutely love the TSL.. don't get it. Have been playing since the seventies and have owned many many many Marshalls, still do. My favorite is the TSL, the most versatile Marshall ever. I have two TSL100 heads and two TSL122 combos. Have never had an issue with any of them. There is no better clean channel Marshall out there. These amps take pedals very well. You can rock the Heavens, reduce amp output to 25 watts with a push of a button, silent record direct with a push of a button (which sounds great). I have two Friedman amps as well but use the TSL's more often. Absolutely under rated.
I agree! I have the 122! It seems to play well with every style. The 25w button is valuable for my basement playing ass as full on 100w is madness x2 in a small arena. I was running it yesterday at 25w on 5 with a compressor and Op amp muff and it was pushing some air pretty well. I couldnt imagine being on 7 in a basement at 100w. Lol but I Love Jimi Billy Corgan Jerry Garcia Dickey Betts etc and I can make those sound pretty damn well with just my strat. I love my tsl!
which tubes did you have in them for this review? I love mine, did a lot of pre amp tube experiments ;) With the Drop C tuning , never tried before it is so bad ass ! :)
I had this amp and I play everyday for the last two years. It sounds awesome to me. I owned lot of amps spl 100 , 900 , dsl2000 , jvm 210. All is 100 watts. I love them all but Tsl100 is my favorite one. It’s really underrated. I love it.
Sorry for what’s going to be a little bit long winded however I say underrated!!!! Love the video it’s the first time I’ve seen your content and I’m now a subscriber! …..I got mine brand new in 2003 when I was 13 I saved my money for two years shoveling driveways and mowing lawns and bought the jcm2000 TSL60H head that Xmas I got a 1936 2x12 cab for it and I still own it although I switched over to a line 6 HX Stomp and powercab 112 in October 2020 because I couldn’t carry my Marshall anymore since Breaking my back and it’s replaced my whole rig since then that marshall was my only amp for 15 years I play as much metal as I do blues and with an mxr distortion + a Dunlop UV-1 UniVibe and a crybaby The tones I got out of it still get me compliments from people and the only issue I ever had is that the reverb stopped working but the foot switch is still the original one and works as it should so my guess is that it’s either the spring tank went bad or the tube is bad but otherwise it’s been played to death for 5 years or so there was 3-6 hours a day of playing at volumes in my bedroom that would have filled a small club as long as dad could hear the tv he was happy otherwise he would flip the circuit breaker and honestly I have no intention of parting with it it doesn’t get used much anymore but any time someone wants to jam I’ve got a full A and B rig and I’m really sentimental about it and how hard I worked to afford 1750$ Canadian when I was still too young to drive myself to the store to pick it up and like I said I would probably have kept it as my main amp if it wasn’t for needing a rig that I could move around without help and the whole headphone thing with the digital stuff sure helps me get in extra practice time now that I’m a father so although I can’t 100% comment on the TSL 100 as far as I know the 60 and 100 sound about the same just the 60 crunch and lead share tone controls and it has a few less bells and whistles but it’s still got the emulated line out although I don’t know if it’s got the speaker cab mute or not….. also as far as I understand the issue that the DSL 50&100 TSL100 had with the bias issues weren’t an issue with the TSL60 for whatever reason and that’s why you can’t find replacement main boards for them like the other 3 models weather or not that’s true or not I’ve read it on forums and been told that was correct by the dealer that sold it to me who himself had the tsl100 and is knowledgeable about that specific range of amps
Mate, first off thank you for your sub I means alot buddy and secondly we'll done you for the time and effort you spent getting that rig. I have to say I agree the tsl is a great rig. Iam also digging your B rig. The line 6 stuff is amazing. Dude thank you so much for this post and I hope to hear from you again in future videos. 🤘🧟♂️🤘
Hi, the TSL60 overdrive channels and the TSL100 overdrive channels don't sound the same. The TSL100 is brighter, tighter and a bit less gain, I like the TSL60 more but that amp has a lot of hate as well, mostly likely from people who have never used it.
Check out Euge Valovirta's channel > ruclips.net/video/JtiXhPxShVM/видео.html He too has great reviews on Marshall amps. Euge has several vids comparing Marshall sounds, this is simply his most recent. Euge is a world class guitarist, his sound comparisons and presentations am sure you will enjoy.
I bought my TSL 60 15-20 years ago used. Sounded good then. Blew a power tube, and ordered a new, full set of tubes from Eurotubes that were specifically for the TSL. Holy moly, the amp WOKE UP after that. Sounds f'ing killer. Haters, keep hatin! Love my TSL.
I have a TSL 100 and it sounds awesome. I can even use it without a booster, it's still better with a booster but if all you have is the amp it will do the job. The problem I have is that it runs at 10,000 degrees. When I bought mine, it was red plating. I replaced the mainboard, new tubes and re-biased it. But it still runs SCARY hot. I had a JCM 800 and a 900 Mark III and after hours and hours of use they got very warm to mildly hot. The TSL within minutes of use is BURNING hot. And it scared me that its going to do the same thing over and burn out the mainboard. I have biased it cooler but has not changed this. Also, the peddle is junk. But other than that, it sounds awesome, its load and has some good options built in.
I got my JCM 2000 TSL 100 in October 2000 and still have it and the 1960A 4 X 12 cab I bought it with. I've played blues, punk, heavy rock, metal, pop etc etc using a Les Paul and a Strat. The amp has always done what I've asked of it. Takes pedals really well, yes the FX loop changes the tone but if you leave it on and tweak eq etc it sounds cool. I've had to replace the board recently but other than that it's been a workhorse. 🤘🏻🤘🏻
This is a great amp. I think that most of the hate comes from the reliability of these amps and not the tone. A lot of people have reported that these things will burn up on you and have to be worked on to prevent that.
Odd you uploaded this, i got a JCM800 Studio head last week and love it, ive always been curious as to why these later predecessors to the 800's seem to get a bad rep. I haven't heard them sound that bad, but i have only heard them in conjunction with a band mix.
A friend of mine had one, I Freakin Loved IT!!! I swear, every time I went to practice or rehearsal, I'd go a few hours early just to be able to use it. This was around 99 or maybe 2000, I believe... I'm pretty sure that it was around the time when they first came out. Back around those years is somewhat blurry and fuzzy. Anyway, it was perfect for the music that I wrote at that time, actually now, as well, but yeah... I needed crystal clear cleans, a little bit of crunchy fuzzy heavy rhythm channel, as well as a screamin lead channel... although, nowadays, I'd ideally have a softer strumming clean1, picked/fingerpicked clean2, solo/lead clean3, a dirty/fuzzy rhythm4, a wicked/riffin distortion5, and a supersmooth screaming rockstar lead/solo shredmonster6 channel... and ideally it would have the option of splitting the sound into stereo and using combinations of 2 of these at a time, which I guess that is why I would prefer my old Line6 Vetta II HEAD that could do exactly that!!! I swear by those unbelievably versatile 150 per side/300 watt total 4 speaker output amazingly easy to work with and upgradeable program, sonic-monstrosity uber virtuoso machines are the coolest Freakin Things EVER!!! Running 4 2×12 Cabs with a sealed/ported EV 12 on bottom and a ported/open-back JBL 12 on top, my own custom creations, then splitting them to stereo on hard Left/Right sides of the stage and running stereo Amps/Effects especially with ((or dbl stereo) quad)) Ping-Ping Delays that are timed right, fully induce hardcore hallucinations!!! Yeah, although the Vetta II might not have quite the pure tone of a JCM TSL2000, but the amount of versatility without having to drag around multiple amps from show to show was awesome!!! AND I had people approach me after shows telling me that they'd never heard anything like that before, 1 kid that had just finished the first couple of portions of being a Marine said he was on break and never even drank or done drugs before, was completely sober and said that the music made him feel like he was high on drugs!!! No joke, I swear on my life, that's what the kid said to me!!! I was blown away and thanked him for the most amazing compliment that I could have ever imagined... I almost broke down into tears I was so overwhelmed by the emotion of the moment. It's too bad that my band broke up because of drugs... sad, really. Then I lost my album that I had recorded on a Tascam 24 track. I wish I would have figured out a way to transfer it to a computer or bought a scsi port to transfer it to have copies of or better yet that I would have grabbed it and my equipment and family photos and videos before the California wildfire that destroyed my home, everything I owned and entire hometown of Paradise rolled on through leveling the town. But I remember those days of getting to practice hours early to be able to plug in turn up and start rippin and shredding leads for hours. I was convinced that that thing MADE ME SOUND LIKE A ROCKSTAR!!! HAHAHA Ah yes... the good old days. HAHAHA I think I'll look for one of those on an auction site. Thanks for the memories. Namaste
Mate such an awesome tell and a pleasure to read, I too rocked a vesta 2 head for years before I went DT50, I loved my Vetta and emulate it now on my Helix the Badonk was the one!!!! Sorry to hear about your losses but have loved your experience of not only yhis amo but the vesta 2 too. Amazing things!!!! Hope you and your universe are bright dude and thank you so much for sharing. 🤘🧟♂️🤘
Mine is my favorite amp I've owned. The issue with them is the poor build quality. I haven't had problems but they have a bad track record due to a bad board inside. I mostly just use the clean channel with pedals. Best clean channel I've ever used
@@PaulGlover Have you had any reliability issues with yours? I had to sell mine but I used it for gigs for 7 years without any problems. I've considered finding another but the techs got me worried about the problems of the amps
@mikeb5372 no mate, not upto now.....hope I didn't jinx myself hahahahahhaha sounds massive and is a proper workhorse. Currently only a studio amp though so no tough road trips. She is babied.
Just scored a 1x12 60w on Trade years me NZ .325 pounds ish .Had fenders for the last 20 years, before then jcm,s 50 and 100w (the 50w head not very reliable), sold them as very back breaking carting round 4x12 cabs to pubs and clubs.Anyway missing them hence this purchase!
Ha man, nice job. I enjoyed your video about this amp. I have one of these amps and I love it. Has one Marshall's best clean channels they ever put out. I just think you can get some really good tones out of it. Mine is a 2002. Twenty years old and still sounds great. We know these things had problems, but if you get a good one it sounds great to me. Got mine for $695 not bad at all. Enjoyed your playing too. Thanks for making this video. Take care my guitar friend. Kerry in Houston, TX out.
I love my TSL. It doesn't sound like other Marshall amps, but that's a good thing. It's not a blues amp. It's all about metal. Stacked on top of my JVM they are a perfect marriage. I've owned quit a few Marshalls and these are my two favorites.
Its a great amp. Have had several of them. I feel most of the hate is because of the unreliability. Have had three of them blow up on me on stage. There was a built in design flaw with the biasing. However I knew ppl that had one and played it live for years but I always got a few bad batches.
@@gtrman69777 ya man they sound amazing but the biasing issue was super wonky. Just moving the head from point A to B would throw the biasing out of wack. I've biased one and then took it to play a show where the biasing got so messed up the tubes ran so hot that several soldered joints became undone... Now since I've had them I have heard that there is an actual fix now where you can prevent the bias nodes from moving so easily but at this point when you've had a few crap out om stage while performing, it's a scary situation.
I had one of these new a 2x12 combo plus the extra 2x12 cab. Drove to sound control in Leeds to pick it up. It was a great amp. I regret selling it. I think it was option overload at the time. I switched to an ac30 (normal channel) with treble booster.
The hate comes from the run-away bias issue that smokes the power tubes. I had the problem show up on nine and had to shell out over $400 in tubes, a new motherboard, and a tech to look it over. I love this amp, but it can be a bit of a Diva...
For me I love the IRT range, with the SLS being the most versatile for travel, recording and venue attenuation. The heads look amazing though lol just big and very very loud. The range is pretty good for hitting low to high gain also but look at lionheart for clean to clasoc rock/crunch Ironheart for the high gain stuff or as for an amazing pedal platform look at the GH or the new LA30. Hope this helps buddy 🤘🧟♂️🤘
I think it's good. It's one of those things in life. Everyone will hate on it and avoid it like the plague. Because of the poor sales the company discontinues the model. Then one day, someone famous will use it on a hit song and everyone will be scrabbling try to find one. The price will be obscene on the used market and will be considered a "classic". That is exactly what happened with Les Pauls.
I bought one today. It’s crunchy. I have a dsl 40 too and it’s not as crunchy. I paid about the same for both. I’m pretty happy with both. A little concerned because I found out the tsl might some reliability issues.
If it doesn’t have the issues by now, odds are that you bought one of the corrected issues. It’s just unfortunate that this particular model never shook the rep even after Marshall corrected the problem.
And what was wrong with that?? NOTHING!! That sounded incredible imo! Great tones and what an awesome improv tune you wrote! Esp liked that melodic lead. Nice job brother! 👍🤘
Thanks dude, I agree this amp is a monster do I don't get the hate or the "not a real" marshall thing.....anyway dude thank you so much for the kind words. 🤘🧟♂️🤘
i did a side by side recording of some simple rhythm's of my tsl 100 and a orange 50 thru my 1960 marshall cab. they sounded almost exactly the same. for the haters of this amp its literally all in your head.
The TSL and DSL both have sloppy channel switching. It's not instanious, there's a lag, so it's a deal breaker for me. It's probably because there so much going on in the circuit I guess, maybe.
@@PaulGlover Every one I've tried. I have an '89 2210 which switches great and I think the new JVM's are fine but the DSL/TSL were crap in that way. The combos too.
I have 3 models dsl20 tsl100 and 1959hw also i have 3 cabins 1960ax 1960av and kitty hawk 1990 with g12h 70 , nothing is crap, the 1959hw is top , tsl100 is very good for some tracks ,and dsl for sick metal.
What I love about TSL's is that everyone else hates them. Amps are awesome....the footswitch is not awesome. I have 2 TSL's and 3 footswitches, all 3 have issues. Buying a Switch Dr. replacement
I can attest to it being a pretty exceptional amp, but it's just got a lot of feedback :/ Literally had to buy an expensive noise gate in order to tame it (even on low gain).
@@PaulGlover Something to do with how the 2 lead channels were wired/ work together vs the single on the dsl. idk if it was to save money, just to be different or what reason actually is. but the amps on the same settings are as different as 2 marshals can be
@@PaulGlover I 1st gigged it using a Line6 Pod XT Live going through the front, generally using delay chorus and flange, all the dirt was from the amp. I now use a TC Electronic G Major 2 in it with a Behringer FCB1010. Its tremendous
All Marshalls are Nasal . Its the Marshall sound . Anyone who thinks a true Marshall doesn't have a Nasal sound haa never heard a Plexi . Listen to Jimmy Page live in the Zep era. It doesnt get more nasal and honky than that .
"My jaw went numb, and I couldn't hear anything for about 25 minutes." I subscribed. :)
Hahahha it's true man lol it was an experience lol 😆 thanks for your support dude 🤘🧟♂️🤘
I have had a tsl60 for almost 20 years. Its amazing, I paid 200 second hand around 2003. It is actually designed with pedals in mind. It does take some mastering but once done you can get almost anything out of these.
They are great amps and they take a beating.
@@Donnie_Thornberry when I bought mine I regularly played pub and club gigs with it on ten. Sadly I was still learning then so playing was awful, but the tones were mega 😂
I guess people didn't like it back then because it didn't work well with v30s.
It sounded awesome through my 5150 cab back then but it have this overheating issue.
Does the 60 watt or combo version have the same heating issue?
I have a TSL 602, built in the fourth week of 2005. When I first started to use it, I liked it. It was my first Marshall. The love affair soon wore off, and it sat in the corner for three years as I was using my Mesa Stiletto Deuce. One day I decided for shits and giggles to rip the TSL apart down to the guts. I installed Mercury Magnetics Axiom Line power and output transformers and choke. NOS preamp tubes and retained the stock Marshall el-34 power tubes. I built a head cabinet for it as well and use it with the EVH 4X12 'Stealth' cabinet loaded with the Celestion EVH speakers. I also have the head hooked up to a Monster power conditioner that is fed AC from a twenty (20) amp variac set to about 93-95 volts. There aren't any modifications to the circuit whatsoever. I only bolted on some choice premium parts. The way that TSL 602 sounds and behaves now with its mods and less the Wolverine speakers, is beyond unbelievable BROWN SOUND. EVH Atomica in a box. An unbelievable amplifier. So, there is my TSL 602 story. Cheers!
Wow mate that sounds like a monster set of mods. Well done dude!!!! 🤘🧟🤘
@@PaulGlover It works. And then some, Cheers!
I have the TSL100 212 combo with the 212 extension cab. It’s ace. Sounds great as you say, even at low volume. The combo cost £350 on eBay and the extension cabinet (which is specifically for the amp) was £125! Amazing value. Great video👍😎
Top deal 🤘🧟♂️🤘
I gigged one solid for 6yrs it was brilliant, still got it had to change the mother board because of the PCB going conductive, it's a fabulous gigging amp if you put a din socket in the footswitch and change the small LEDs for bigger coloured ones that match the channel colours, and the dummy jack in the effects loop to control the volume for home use is a great hack
Amazing
My dad has a beautiful JCM 800. I got myself a JCM 2000 TSL in 2012 for $700 used. Still use it to this day!! Fantastic amp.
Very nice amp! And don't forget the very early Valvestates (I'm honest about that but I have to go now... 😃 )
I bought mine when they first came out Jan ‘99. The 122 combo with extra cab. Had to replace the main board in 2015 because of the heat causing bias jump. Marshall sent a new board even though it was long out of warranty. My amp tech really set it up great. Next to my Bluesbreaker, it’s my favorite amp. Your right that crunch channel is its selling point. I have one Les Paul with 496/500 pickups, and that guitar sounds incredible on the lead channel. Unfortunately the mother board problems gave this amp a black eye that it will never lose. But the guys that slam them are mostly going by word of mouth. You have to work with it, but they are great amps.
i have THIS AMP for 10+ years. I have other amps.. BUT!!!!!!!!! MY friends always want to hear the marshall stack. THIER JAWS DROP when they hear how i got it set up. Than comes >> WHY DONT MY MARSHALL SOUND LIKE THAT>!!! AND SMILES!!!!!!!!!!! TSL FOR EVER.. i also own the combo 212 tsl. :) 1 is not enough.
Hahaha amazing.
Gigged with it for 10 years . Great amp . What people often overlook is that if you want a classic Marshall tone you need to crank the mids on the TSL. It is a bit scooped in the mids . This is right in the manual . I love my TSL 60
Hey man, bit late to the thread..
I have had 4 a TSLs all in all at different times.. fell in love with the look of the amp as a teenager with a Valvestate 100 combo and bought my TSL122 combo in 1999. Such a great sounding amp and never had any issues with it right up until trading up to the head and 1960a cab in around 2004. Man that first head that I owned was the best sounding amp on the planet. Sounded so wicked. Chopped that in for a JVM around 2006 - hated it and immediately got rid and bought another TSL.
Disappointingly, the 2nd TSL to me didn’t quite sound as good as my old one, which is a right ball bag, but.. having learned how to bias these things recently(so easy!) I’ve now got it singing. Stick a Boss SD1 or EHX Crayon in front of it and this thing sounds sick as.
Oh and I did buy a mint second hand TSL122 a couple of years ago but recently got rid - surplus to requirements 😂
The amps are definitely not shit! Don’t know where some people pull their info from but some haters clearly have never actually heard one in the flesh, let alone played through one that has been properly dialled in.
Great vid by the mate 👍🏼
Yeah mate I fucking love this amp man. Never sell it, it's every Marshall I'd ever need. Thanks for your experience buddy. 🤘🧟🤘
@@PaulGlover just got my mates TSL in the cellar right now to have the bias checked 🤘🏼 he’s had his since 2005 and had zero issues
I love this amp! I bought mine around 2004.
Run it with. Marshall 1960 lead 4x12 & 1936 lead 2x12.. playing my Gibson 1957 Les Paul Black Beauty & Gretsch 1955 White Falcon..
It sound beast! I have played Jcm 800's before and there is no question that they are incredible heads.. but I wanted a 3rd lead channel.. All I need for that push for a lead solo is that 3rd channel... I never realized there was so much hate for the TSL? If you dial it in and play through great sounding guitars it is amazing!!
Everyone has their own sound in their head they are trying to match... For me it's the TSL with vintage unicorn guitars..
Thanks for the video!!!
Awesome yeah I don't get the hate great amp. Thanks foe sharing your experience man. 🤘🧟♂️🤘
I own this amp and it’s a powerhouse.
As long as you can get one made after the bias drift issue was corrected you can pretty much get any guitar tone and power you want from it and shake a house while you’re at it.
its a brilliant amp i gigged one for six years solid it has a great clean, lots of gain on the crunch channel, brilliant lead tone, the only downsides are the hard wired footswitch cable ( changed mine to a din plug and put bigger coloured leds in ) and the dreaded bias drift problem that kills them, i put the new upgraded board in mine its like a new amp now, easy to bias yourself and the fuses are panel mounted unlike the jvm, but since i discovered the boss katana i dont use it anymore
I do love mine, it just lives inside my Quad cortex now LOL
Nice to see great quality demo review videos of out of production amps, i'm looking on the 2nd hand market often so these kinds of videos are helpful thanks...
Dude check the rest of the channel iam always hunting a beast on the cheap 🤘🧟♂️🤘
@@PaulGlover Will do thanks Paul 👍🎶🎶😎
Great amp it just lived under the shadow of the JCM 800. Had one for 20 years.
Had one of these since early 2000s, great head, I had issues with some cracked solder joints on the PCB with the foot switch input and speaker outputs, was an easy fix.
Amp is still going strong too.
I have the JVM 410 and DSL, my buddy I jam with has the TSL 2000 they all sound great 👍. Just remember folks a Marshall is Marshall just what flavor do you like. 😉 And it's all about the EQ'ing of the amp
I absolutely love the TSL.. don't get it. Have been playing since the seventies and have owned many many many Marshalls, still do. My favorite is the TSL, the most versatile Marshall ever. I have two TSL100 heads and two TSL122 combos. Have never had an issue with any of them. There is no better clean channel Marshall out there. These amps take pedals very well. You can rock the Heavens, reduce amp output to 25 watts with a push of a button, silent record direct with a push of a button (which sounds great). I have two Friedman amps as well but use the TSL's more often. Absolutely under rated.
I agree! I have the 122! It seems to play well with every style. The 25w button is valuable for my basement playing ass as full on 100w is madness x2 in a small arena. I was running it yesterday at 25w on 5 with a compressor and Op amp muff and it was pushing some air pretty well. I couldnt imagine being on 7 in a basement at 100w. Lol but I Love Jimi Billy Corgan Jerry Garcia Dickey Betts etc and I can make those sound pretty damn well with just my strat. I love my tsl!
Sounds great! I have the TSL100 as well! What cab and speakers are you running through?
Laney gs1x12 think its HH speaker?
which tubes did you have in them for this review? I love mine, did a lot of pre amp tube experiments ;)
With the Drop C tuning , never tried before it is so bad ass ! :)
I had this amp and I play everyday for the last two years. It sounds awesome to me. I owned lot of amps spl 100 , 900 , dsl2000 , jvm 210. All is 100 watts. I love them all but Tsl100 is my favorite one. It’s really underrated. I love it.
I agree mate, tiz a monster!!!!
Sorry for what’s going to be a little bit long winded however I say underrated!!!! Love the video it’s the first time I’ve seen your content and I’m now a subscriber! …..I got mine brand new in 2003 when I was 13 I saved my money for two years shoveling driveways and mowing lawns and bought the jcm2000 TSL60H head that Xmas I got a 1936 2x12 cab for it and I still own it although I switched over to a line 6 HX Stomp and powercab 112 in October 2020 because I couldn’t carry my Marshall anymore since Breaking my back and it’s replaced my whole rig since then that marshall was my only amp for 15 years I play as much metal as I do blues and with an mxr distortion + a Dunlop UV-1 UniVibe and a crybaby The tones I got out of it still get me compliments from people and the only issue I ever had is that the reverb stopped working but the foot switch is still the original one and works as it should so my guess is that it’s either the spring tank went bad or the tube is bad but otherwise it’s been played to death for 5 years or so there was 3-6 hours a day of playing at volumes in my bedroom that would have filled a small club as long as dad could hear the tv he was happy otherwise he would flip the circuit breaker and honestly I have no intention of parting with it it doesn’t get used much anymore but any time someone wants to jam I’ve got a full A and B rig and I’m really sentimental about it and how hard I worked to afford 1750$ Canadian when I was still too young to drive myself to the store to pick it up and like I said I would probably have kept it as my main amp if it wasn’t for needing a rig that I could move around without help and the whole headphone thing with the digital stuff sure helps me get in extra practice time now that I’m a father so although I can’t 100% comment on the TSL 100 as far as I know the 60 and 100 sound about the same just the 60 crunch and lead share tone controls and it has a few less bells and whistles but it’s still got the emulated line out although I don’t know if it’s got the speaker cab mute or not….. also as far as I understand the issue that the DSL 50&100 TSL100 had with the bias issues weren’t an issue with the TSL60 for whatever reason and that’s why you can’t find replacement main boards for them like the other 3 models weather or not that’s true or not I’ve read it on forums and been told that was correct by the dealer that sold it to me who himself had the tsl100 and is knowledgeable about that specific range of amps
Mate, first off thank you for your sub I means alot buddy and secondly we'll done you for the time and effort you spent getting that rig. I have to say I agree the tsl is a great rig. Iam also digging your B rig. The line 6 stuff is amazing.
Dude thank you so much for this post and I hope to hear from you again in future videos. 🤘🧟♂️🤘
Hi, the TSL60 overdrive channels and the TSL100 overdrive channels don't sound the same. The TSL100 is brighter, tighter and a bit less gain, I like the TSL60 more but that amp has a lot of hate as well, mostly likely from people who have never used it.
Check out Euge Valovirta's channel > ruclips.net/video/JtiXhPxShVM/видео.html He too has great reviews on Marshall amps. Euge has several vids comparing Marshall sounds, this is simply his most recent. Euge is a world class guitarist, his sound comparisons and presentations am sure you will enjoy.
Hi Paul , sound awesome , great Marshally tones , likes the one we love , top video Paul , Rock on man . Awesome backing track !!!!
Thanks man, the Marshall made me play it. 🤘🧟♂️🤘
I bought my TSL 60 15-20 years ago used. Sounded good then. Blew a power tube, and ordered a new, full set of tubes from Eurotubes that were specifically for the TSL. Holy moly, the amp WOKE UP after that. Sounds f'ing killer. Haters, keep hatin! Love my TSL.
Me too!!!!
I have a TSL 100 and it sounds awesome. I can even use it without a booster, it's still better with a booster but if all you have is the amp it will do the job. The problem I have is that it runs at 10,000 degrees. When I bought mine, it was red plating. I replaced the mainboard, new tubes and re-biased it. But it still runs SCARY hot. I had a JCM 800 and a 900 Mark III and after hours and hours of use they got very warm to mildly hot. The TSL within minutes of use is BURNING hot. And it scared me that its going to do the same thing over and burn out the mainboard. I have biased it cooler but has not changed this. Also, the peddle is junk. But other than that, it sounds awesome, its load and has some good options built in.
Buying one next week. Great playing. Thanks for a real review.
Nice work dude, it's a great amp, and very versatile, oh and fecking loud hahahhah 🤘🧟♂️🤘
I got my JCM 2000 TSL 100 in October 2000 and still have it and the 1960A 4 X 12 cab I bought it with. I've played blues, punk, heavy rock, metal, pop etc etc using a Les Paul and a Strat. The amp has always done what I've asked of it. Takes pedals really well, yes the FX loop changes the tone but if you leave it on and tweak eq etc it sounds cool. I've had to replace the board recently but other than that it's been a workhorse. 🤘🏻🤘🏻
I love my T100 as well! Don't have a problem with the board or bias drift,but just curious if changing your board changed the tone of your amp?
This is a great amp. I think that most of the hate comes from the reliability of these amps and not the tone. A lot of people have reported that these things will burn up on you and have to be worked on to prevent that.
Odd you uploaded this, i got a JCM800 Studio head last week and love it, ive always been curious as to why these later predecessors to the 800's seem to get a bad rep. I haven't heard them sound that bad, but i have only heard them in conjunction with a band mix.
A friend of mine had one, I Freakin Loved IT!!!
I swear, every time I went to practice or rehearsal, I'd go a few hours early just to be able to use it. This was around 99 or maybe 2000, I believe... I'm pretty sure that it was around the time when they first came out.
Back around those years is somewhat blurry and fuzzy.
Anyway, it was perfect for the music that I wrote at that time, actually now, as well, but yeah... I needed crystal clear cleans, a little bit of crunchy fuzzy heavy rhythm channel, as well as a screamin lead channel... although, nowadays, I'd ideally have a softer strumming clean1, picked/fingerpicked clean2, solo/lead clean3, a dirty/fuzzy rhythm4, a wicked/riffin distortion5, and a supersmooth screaming rockstar lead/solo shredmonster6 channel... and ideally it would have the option of splitting the sound into stereo and using combinations of 2 of these at a time, which I guess that is why I would prefer my old Line6 Vetta II HEAD that could do exactly that!!! I swear by those unbelievably versatile 150 per side/300 watt total 4 speaker output amazingly easy to work with and upgradeable program, sonic-monstrosity uber virtuoso machines are the coolest Freakin Things EVER!!!
Running 4 2×12 Cabs with a sealed/ported EV 12 on bottom and a ported/open-back JBL 12 on top, my own custom creations, then splitting them to stereo on hard Left/Right sides of the stage and running stereo Amps/Effects especially with ((or dbl stereo) quad)) Ping-Ping Delays that are timed right, fully induce hardcore hallucinations!!!
Yeah, although the Vetta II might not have quite the pure tone of a JCM TSL2000, but the amount of versatility without having to drag around multiple amps from show to show was awesome!!! AND I had people approach me after shows telling me that they'd never heard anything like that before, 1 kid that had just finished the first couple of portions of being a Marine said he was on break and never even drank or done drugs before, was completely sober and said that the music made him feel like he was high on drugs!!! No joke, I swear on my life, that's what the kid said to me!!! I was blown away and thanked him for the most amazing compliment that I could have ever imagined... I almost broke down into tears I was so overwhelmed by the emotion of the moment.
It's too bad that my band broke up because of drugs... sad, really. Then I lost my album that I had recorded on a Tascam 24 track. I wish I would have figured out a way to transfer it to a computer or bought a scsi port to transfer it to have copies of or better yet that I would have grabbed it and my equipment and family photos and videos before the California wildfire that destroyed my home, everything I owned and entire hometown of Paradise rolled on through leveling the town.
But I remember those days of getting to practice hours early to be able to plug in turn up and start rippin and shredding leads for hours. I was convinced that that thing MADE ME SOUND LIKE A ROCKSTAR!!! HAHAHA
Ah yes... the good old days. HAHAHA
I think I'll look for one of those on an auction site.
Thanks for the memories.
Namaste
Mate such an awesome tell and a pleasure to read, I too rocked a vesta 2 head for years before I went DT50, I loved my Vetta and emulate it now on my Helix the Badonk was the one!!!! Sorry to hear about your losses but have loved your experience of not only yhis amo but the vesta 2 too. Amazing things!!!!
Hope you and your universe are bright dude and thank you so much for sharing. 🤘🧟♂️🤘
Mine is my favorite amp I've owned. The issue with them is the poor build quality. I haven't had problems but they have a bad track record due to a bad board inside. I mostly just use the clean channel with pedals. Best clean channel I've ever used
It's a real mixed bag bit yeah it appears it's the build that turned alot of people off....such a shame.
@@PaulGlover Have you had any reliability issues with yours? I had to sell mine but I used it for gigs for 7 years without any problems. I've considered finding another but the techs got me worried about the problems of the amps
@mikeb5372 no mate, not upto now.....hope I didn't jinx myself hahahahahhaha sounds massive and is a proper workhorse. Currently only a studio amp though so no tough road trips. She is babied.
Just scored a 1x12 60w on Trade years me NZ .325 pounds ish .Had fenders for the last 20 years, before then jcm,s 50 and 100w (the 50w head not very reliable), sold them as very back breaking carting round 4x12 cabs to pubs and clubs.Anyway missing them hence this purchase!
Good buy mate 🤘🧟♂️🤘
Ha man, nice job. I enjoyed your video about this amp. I have one of these amps and I love it. Has one Marshall's best clean channels they ever put out. I just think you can get some really good tones out of it. Mine is a 2002. Twenty years old and still sounds great. We know these things had problems, but if you get a good one it sounds great to me. Got mine for $695 not bad at all. Enjoyed your playing too. Thanks for making this video. Take care my guitar friend. Kerry in Houston, TX out.
Good to hear it mate, yeah definitely an underrated amp. Thanks for dropping by dude 🤘🧟♂️🤘
I love my TSL. It doesn't sound like other Marshall amps, but that's a good thing. It's not a blues amp. It's all about metal. Stacked on top of my JVM they are a perfect marriage. I've owned quit a few Marshalls and these are my two favorites.
Agreed dude, I love mine to. People do have a downer on these amps but we have proven that they are worth the punt.
Great idea, MT-2 next?
Great one, hated or Underatted?
Its a great amp. Have had several of them. I feel most of the hate is because of the unreliability. Have had three of them blow up on me on stage. There was a built in design flaw with the biasing. However I knew ppl that had one and played it live for years but I always got a few bad batches.
I didn't realize that you had already said everything that I was going to say. LOL. Apparently the rumors about these things are true.
@@gtrman69777 ya man they sound amazing but the biasing issue was super wonky. Just moving the head from point A to B would throw the biasing out of wack. I've biased one and then took it to play a show where the biasing got so messed up the tubes ran so hot that several soldered joints became undone... Now since I've had them I have heard that there is an actual fix now where you can prevent the bias nodes from moving so easily but at this point when you've had a few crap out om stage while performing, it's a scary situation.
I've never had a single problem with mine.
I was thinking about buying one but wasn't too sure and this video has made my decision to buy one
@@Le_goobriess mate they are amazing and does all the Marshall you’d ever need
@PaulGlover thanks man
I had one of these new a 2x12 combo plus the extra 2x12 cab. Drove to sound control in Leeds to pick it up. It was a great amp. I regret selling it. I think it was option overload at the time. I switched to an ac30 (normal channel) with treble booster.
Seems like this little beast is UNDERRATED!!!! Thanks man. 🤘🧟♂️🤘
The hate comes from the run-away bias issue that smokes the power tubes. I had the problem show up on nine and had to shell out over $400 in tubes, a new motherboard, and a tech to look it over. I love this amp, but it can be a bit of a Diva...
Jesus that sound like an issue like. 🙄
Great demo and playing. Thanks for sharing
These have got to become future classics. Thanks for dropping by buddy 🤘🧟🤘
Just picked one up today. Got it cheap. Il go through it. update a few things and looking forward to many years of enjoyment.
Iam sure ypu will ate, great amp 🤘🧟♂️🤘
Awesome video! Congrats! What is the best Laney amp in your opinion? Thanks
For me I love the IRT range, with the SLS being the most versatile for travel, recording and venue attenuation. The heads look amazing though lol just big and very very loud. The range is pretty good for hitting low to high gain also but look at lionheart for clean to clasoc rock/crunch Ironheart for the high gain stuff or as for an amazing pedal platform look at the GH or the new LA30. Hope this helps buddy 🤘🧟♂️🤘
@@PaulGlover Many Thanks Paul! You win a new Subscriber
I think it's good. It's one of those things in life. Everyone will hate on it and avoid it like the plague. Because of the poor sales the company discontinues the model. Then one day, someone famous will use it on a hit song and everyone will be scrabbling try to find one. The price will be obscene on the used market and will be considered a "classic". That is exactly what happened with Les Pauls.
I bought one today. It’s crunchy. I have a dsl 40 too and it’s not as crunchy. I paid about the same for both. I’m pretty happy with both. A little concerned because I found out the tsl might some reliability issues.
Yeah the early ones did I think but mine has never missed a beat. Worth looking into though. Happy new amp day!!!!! 🤘🧟♂️🤘
@@PaulGlover Thank you
I put the mod board in my 99 see if yours is newer you might not have the bias drift
If it doesn’t have the issues by now, odds are that you bought one of the corrected issues.
It’s just unfortunate that this particular model never shook the rep even after Marshall corrected the problem.
And what was wrong with that?? NOTHING!! That sounded incredible imo! Great tones and what an awesome improv tune you wrote! Esp liked that melodic lead. Nice job brother! 👍🤘
Thanks dude, I agree this amp is a monster do I don't get the hate or the "not a real" marshall thing.....anyway dude thank you so much for the kind words. 🤘🧟♂️🤘
Supposed to be trading for the 60 watt head next weekend can't wait!
i did a side by side recording of some simple rhythm's of my tsl 100 and a orange 50 thru my 1960 marshall cab. they sounded almost exactly the same. for the haters of this amp its literally all in your head.
I agree, it's a great amp.
They sound good. They're easy to bias. And they have an all tube signal path. I have a 2203X and I don't like it as well as the TSL60.
I don’t get the hate . I have a Hermansson and Wizard but still love my tsl100. They just need biased right and through greenbacks and a boost
The TSL and DSL both have sloppy channel switching. It's not instanious, there's a lag, so it's a deal breaker for me. It's probably because there so much going on in the circuit I guess, maybe.
As this is a studio amp I don't use the channel switch so ive never noticed this? Wondering if this is every unit?
@@PaulGlover Every one I've tried. I have an '89 2210 which switches great and I think the new JVM's are fine but the DSL/TSL were crap in that way. The combos too.
Nice Jam
The jcm 2000 TsL 100 Version wirhout the bias Drift is one of the best Amps ever …
I do love this amp
I have a jcm 900, a jcm 2000 dsl, a jcm 2000 tsl and vintage modern. If you can EQ right they all sound killer
You my friend are qualified to say that lol yeah man I agree, this level of Marshall kick ass 🤘🧟♂️🤘
I have such an amp it's awesome. Very melodic playing by the way --a rarity these days with all the shredder mentality.
Thank you buddy and I agree it's a monster amp. 🤘🧟♂️🤘
I have 3 models dsl20 tsl100 and 1959hw also i have 3 cabins 1960ax 1960av and kitty hawk 1990 with g12h 70 , nothing is crap, the 1959hw is top , tsl100 is very good for some tracks ,and dsl for sick metal.
What I love about TSL's is that everyone else hates them. Amps are awesome....the footswitch is not awesome. I have 2 TSL's and 3 footswitches, all 3 have issues. Buying a Switch Dr. replacement
I own it, I love it! Does everything from jazz to extreme metal!!
Exactly. One of the more versatile Marshalls.
Got a tsl601... Best amp ever. Great review!
Giant frets. LIKE IT.
I can attest to it being a pretty exceptional amp, but it's just got a lot of feedback :/ Literally had to buy an expensive noise gate in order to tame it (even on low gain).
I've found mine to be very quiet in that regard, interesting. 🤘🎅🤘
Maybe the output tubes are worn out.
Probably microphonic tube or cheap cables bad pedal
I dont find these radically diferrent souding from the JVM series . The JVM was the successor to these amps .
I miss my tsl100. It died (same bias drift problem everyone talks about) and there are no replacement boards anymore so it’s just toast. Oh well.
I thinks it's how you set it.Its not a out the box amp.You have work with it and most people are lazy.
So true 🤘🧟♂️🤘
Quality as usual. JVM can be had for 6-700quid. But this is a nice rig.
why not slap a 6L6 in it for a bigger tone
Ohhh might be a thing that, I kinda get what I want from it, use my Laney amps for all the other stuff. But it is a good shout. 🤘🧟♂️🤘
Sounds like a Marshall to me 👍 I like it 👍
i loved mine beware they have bad motherboard blew up got rid of it
Think this seems to be the beef. Iam hearing they sorted it after a certain year, maybe something to ask at point of purchase. 🤘🧟♂️🤘
@@PaulGlover bin using the boss katana 100 watt great solid state not a Marshall but im not as nervous
@@danobrien693 hahahhaha too true 👍
it's a digital tube amp. good luck having it repaired if anything goes wrong.
Let's pray ot never does 🤘🧟♂️🤘
it might not be bad on its own but the dsl smokes it. You think they would sound the same but they do not.
That's interesting man, I've never had a DSL but if ut better than this then it's one to look put for. Thanks man.
@@PaulGlover Something to do with how the 2 lead channels were wired/ work together vs the single on the dsl. idk if it was to save money, just to be different or what reason actually is. but the amps on the same settings are as different as 2 marshals can be
Use my TSL100 in a Maiden tribute band. Prefer it to my JVM410, JMD1 and JMP1
Interesting dude, yeah I think the haters have got this one wrong. 🤔 🤘🧟♂️🤘
@@PaulGlover
I 1st gigged it using a Line6 Pod XT Live going through the front, generally using delay chorus and flange, all the dirt was from the amp. I now use a TC Electronic G Major 2 in it with a Behringer FCB1010. Its tremendous
@@airbornedusty the rig of my youth lol always dreamed of a marshall and a TC G system. Just perfection 🤘🧟♂️🤘
@@PaulGlover 250quid for the G Major 2 and 70quid for the FCB1010. The tones are ridiculous
@@airbornedusty just wow
Love mine
Way underrated
I think we all agree mate, it's a monster amp. 🤘🧟♂️🤘
They're all Fenders and Marshalls anyway
This is true.
All Marshalls are Nasal . Its the Marshall sound . Anyone who thinks a true Marshall doesn't have a Nasal sound haa never heard a Plexi .
Listen to Jimmy Page live in the Zep era. It doesnt get more nasal and honky than that .
Hey if many hate it its probably great and if many love it I'd stay away from it lol
That does seem to be the case lol
That music was awful
Both the DSL and TSL sound awful and are both potentially very unreliable
I have one and I love it!!!!! I run it as a full stack. It is crazy loud and has lots of thick tone.
Hell yayer!!!!!