We were encouraged from childhood to stand up for our faith, show courage at school, be ridiculed by students and this man couldn’t do any of those things. 🤨😡
“Unlike churches where the people do not talk to each other”,WOW this guys has absolutely no clue what he is talking about! Relationship building is an important aspect of every church community!
He was referring to all of the other churches of the same religion... not just the church you are in. Just like they have so many kingdom halls in one city , they all talk and associate with all the other members of other halls in that city.. they don't just socialize within that particular one they're in.. Most PPL that go to a church don't have much to do with the same church on the other side of the city .for example, .. they keep to their own.
When Malcolm X was asked if he believed Elijah Muhammad was the messager from God, without hesitation, he firmly answered, "Definitely." He responded quickly and unequivocally, " How differently was Jackson 's answer about his role as a governing body to being a spokesperson or "messager" of God and as the ones providing "spiritual food" and guidance to JW. Throughout his testimony, there was none of the strength and conviction of Apostle Paul's or te fine fight for the faith. JWs who went on trial and even prison following the governing body's directions have shown more faith.
The key word is "presumptuous". For those who are still active and those who are doing their investigative work, this word he used should strike a chord. Why would he say "presumptuous" knowing full well in their literature they claim to be "spirit directed" by Jehovah, that they've been chosen by Jesus in 1919. He used that word because he knows that's exactly what it is, all they have been doing since Russell is self-proclamation nothing more but the rabbit hole goes deeper. Now we have to say they're consciously lying and that is NOT exceptable knowing full well people lives are at stake.
Not buying your'e explanations electric earth... He is trying to skip around the answers to questions.Which is lying I'm sure you will find that throughout the literature.The funny thing is I never considered something called THE TRUTH a doctrine that needed guarding. Growing up I was taught that The BIBLE guided us Ps 119:108 youre word is a Lamp to my foot and a light to my roadway. With saying that the bible doesn't change but literature HAS! If they were truly gods people this wouldve never happened . Gods Holy Spirit obviously is not in these congregations where the victims are. Who is over these congregations? The WTBTS is the head of the overseers who OVERSEE the congregations. Therefore would it not be reasonable to say that there is a lack of Holy spirit in the WTBTS?
Electric Earth Hm sounds like we have another Bethel Troll working/lurking the comment section to try and save face for the false prophets aka the Governing Body. How much do they pay you working in the IT department and to troll this ex JW websites? Or are you working for your eternal salvation? Spin it any way you want, the Truth ALWAYS comes out.
Did you know back in 2013 they changed the 1919 doctrine. They now state that Jesus will choose the faithful and discreet slave during the great tribulation. Another red flag
Efrain wanted more medicine from the Dr his mom told him mijo we don't have a Dr he said Mommy I always heard medicine is good for you his mother didn't want to give him psychiatric medicine so basically he ran away from the Kingdom Hall and now it's all because you were beaten by your father inside the Kingdom Hall in front of the parents while Geoffrey Jackson watched from this Australian courtroom
This is a genuine masterclass in how to never, ever give a straight answer to a straight question...Fortunately the judge saw through his deceit, and continued to press the question when Jackson pretended he didn't understand. The blatant lying was shocking to watch.
Well said, Paul. How many JWs do you think will ever see this, though? That's why they get away with stuff like this. Their folks, for whom I feel genuine sorrow, have an almost superstitious fear of questioning the GB. That's the funny thing about truth, though. If it really is true, it should not only stand up to scrutiny, but it should also encourage it.
It looks that way to you because you don't know the scriptures and neither does the judge. The judges questions reflect a lack of respect for the scriptures. That is why the judge doesn't understand or even know how to formulate a coherent question
@@ucanliv4ever Thanks for your response. I don't agree with you, but there's no point in opening that debate because you'll just accuse me of not knowing the scriptures any time I disagree with you. Have a nice day.
Very well butt since this is a public forum it's not all about you. You have to admit that anyone taught by Jehovah will draw a different conclusion than this video promotes. Anyone not familiar with spiritual matters would pose questions like the judge does and draw conclusions based on THAT world view. We commonly hear the charge that Brother Jackson was lying or being evasive. However, anyone taught by Jehovah immediately recognizes that he was just being humble. If he was lying he would be fined and or jailed for perjury, which he was not. What you are looking at is not a legitimate court. It is a hi tech lynch mob. The very name " Royal" Australian Commission should send up warning flags. So ultimately the queen of England is responsible for this travesty and not we the people of Australia. If you think her and the pope don't have an agenda to stop jw's then you are not paying attention.
The only blatant lie is in the show notes... "The Royal Commission found 1006 cases of pedophiles withing Jehovah's Witnesses organization, all of which were not reported to the authorities." I looked up the reference provided in the show notes and contrary to what the video maker would like you to think, he conveniently left out the word "alleged" . So these were alleged pedophiles. In other words, innocent until proven guilty. m.ruclips.net/video/gca6YSZxTps/видео.html
Between the 1:20 and 2:40 mark is one of the most important things he said in regards to the organization And that is "... It would be presumptuous of us to believe we are the only ones God is using..." that speak volumes BUT! that's not what they teach in their literature.
This blew my mind that they said they don’t presume to be the only ones God is using. They directly say time and time again in print that they are the ONLY ones and everyone else is false.
Jesus died for everyone. The JW's believe they have been chosen to Preach and teach the Gospel in all the world. They do a tremendous Bible educational work. There are no paid clergy at any level including the Governing Body. The contributions are used for spreading the Word in all the inhabited earth.. We study, research and pray for forgiveness and direction. And can make errors like anyone. The Bible is there for anyone to read, obey and follow the teachings. That is what he means. JW'S do not have exclusive possession of God's Word. They try to follow their commission.
In the case of a female victim bringing an allegation against an elder, most people would understand that she would be afraid and intimidated, Jeffrey Jackson doesn't really understand or show empathy to a female victim. You can really see that. Its horrible and we can plainly see how witness women rarely get justice with this kind of thinking in the congregation.
If a person is violated forensic evidence needs to be obtained at a hospital ASAP. A meeting with elders can give evidence later. The forensic evidence can assist the elders in making a decision about dealing with the wrongdoer. The authorities can prosecute the guilty person. The elders can only decide if the person can stay in good standing in the congregation. They can not prosecute a wrongdoer.
That sounds good on paper but so many wheels to turn. You must realize that each case is different so of course there is no one answer to all of the cases this is why it is left up to the family to contact police and in some cases to the mandated reporter. I’m all they Jane never in my experience disuádete someone from contacting the police and report it. Now, has it happened? Yes., I’m sure but most likely a person who did not fully understand the rules.
@@brendaamaya2445 A LOT OF THERE FAMILIES ARE RIGHT THERE IN THE CONGREGATION ,THEY TREAT THERE FAMILY WORSE THAN THE ELDERS .BY SHUNNING THEM.1TIMOTHY 5:8
@@dinahkruppa913 AMEN MY SISTER ,WORD OF MOUTH ,AND FORENSIC evidence,THERES your two witnesses,if they cared ,why not have a wt study on THAT TOPIC,IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN .MATT 7:15
So proud of him for BOLDLY Giving A Witness to ALL the Nations, standing up in front of the Superior Courts to Be Identified as God’s One True spokespeople on Earth
Wow....They DISFELLOWSHIP people on HEAR SAY,,,but they won't do the same for these innocent babies....wow....DOES THAT NOT SOUND SCREWED UP TO YOU PEOPLE...
mr. Stewart what you 03:21 need to understand with regard to our 03:22 organization is a faith driven 03:25 organization now the governing body 03:27 realizes that if we were to give some 03:30 direction that is not in harmony with 03:33 God's Word all of Java's Witnesses 03:37 worldwide who have the Bible would 03:39 notice that and they would see that this 03:42 wrong direction He is lying. Any one who suggests their interpretation is wrong is labeled an apostate and disfellowshipped.
@@jaynestagg9460 jehovah is a bullshit murderer of infants unless of course he doesn't exist. In any case your cult says you aren't allowed to be here.
I am a witness of Jehovah for40 yrs,,I dissociate my self from this liar..he nor any of the the governing body represent true witnesess of Jehovah...he is a liar and he will be dealt with as a witness of the true God Jehovah I am sorry for all the hurt the victims who have sufferd abuse....
+Geary Kunkel in the early days when Russell was used by Jehovah he struggled to keep apostates at bay when he died a power struggle ensued...this went on until 1976 when the Apostates took control.....Jehovah is using the true annointed ones to reach ppl with the kingdom message but those of the governing body who are liars will be exposed
@@exjwconfessions - This "HeFlysWith FleshEatingEagles" dude and his other mental "Warrior Birds" friend are here only to troll. Although I suspect that they are the same person that had his account closed for harassing people and now opened a new one.
During the Great Tribulation, a part of the earth will be like """ the HOUSE of ATREUS.""" OTHER parts of the Earth will be like """" SODOM and EGYPT."""" where their LORD was also IMPALED.""" REVELATION Chapter 11. Jesus and the 144,000 will NOT need to kill anyone on Earth, because ALL humans have MANY ENEMIES, some ARE those of his ........... ""household"" Matthew 10:36 I am sure you can think of many more yourself, and many others are exceedingly obvious, THESE, all have plans already, in their MINDS, like the MILITARY, OR """" the DEEP things of SATAN""" and other examples, particularly your own[ Revelation 2:24] that you can think of. ALL mankind will be attacking each other, like """ANIMALS """ 2nd Peter 2:12 & Jude 10 and killing each other so VIOLENTLY turning the entire MOON into BLOOD. Matthew 24: 29 The 144,000 are kings of "" loving-kindness"" they will be separating the Sheeps from the Goats Matthew Chapter 25 WHILE MANY FAITHFUL will die, they will have a RESURRECTION. JOHN 11:25
+jp or an even better scenario would have been if the judge had himself produced the watchtower article quoted in this video about corporal punishment. the discussion would have gone something like: do you accept corporal punishment? no, i don't personally and as an organization we don't encourage it. then would you mind turning to [page number] of your magazine and explain why here it says that you do?
+jp i totally agree. the guy's only concern is to slip free from the clutches of truth like the eel he is. he most definitely had a team of prompters with flashcards behind his laptop to make his job of lying through his teeth easier. forget GOD, these people have no qualms about having HIM nailed on the cross at every opportunity for the sake of preserving their way of life
I was a Jehovah's witness since 1999, I was baptized in Germany a Portuguese congregation, I was disfellowshipped in 2013 Phoenix Portuguese congregation. I was 16 years old and yes You Do Not have a choice, even though I believe that due to the rules or the organization when it comes to the decision of wanting to live, by law under age baptism should be banned, why? Because it's a lifelong punishment & commitment. Jesus used to go to the temple, he knew his father, he is the son of God, he came with that purpose but he was baptized as an Man & not as a boy or teenager, we are called to fallow his footsteps. Imagine how satan could use that against God; he could accuse our God of brainwashing Jesus & trap him in early baptism, and many more things... Our lives are completely turned & changed, the emotional abuse, the way that they label us that no longer believe that they're the chosen ones, they influence how people treat us & our own families, that's abuse & needs to stop.
Patricia thats right, I never thought about that. Jesus was 30 when he was baptized! 30! By then, an adult really understands what she/he are doing. Really understanding the implications. And yet Witnesses push their 10, 11 yr old kids to get baptized. They are not following Jesus' example. They want to get them in early before the children have a chance to think for themselves. I don't think there's any examples in the Biblw where it mentions children being baptised.
You said you were disfellowshipped by the governing body I'm calling you a liar May GOD forgive you little girl tell everyone what you did to be disfellowshipped by your "local" elders
I remember when I was a Regular Pioneer that I could answer almost any question with the Bible immediately. Yet here is a member of the Governing Body saying that he has to come back with an answer because he doesn't know either the answer or where in the Bible you can find such a response.
@@shebossee - Are you saying it is OK for a Governing Body to lie, even though the rank and file are expected to defend their faith regardless of the consequences?
@@EfrainRiveraJunior rank and file?? what are you trying to say here because i am not understanding?. Brother Geoffrey Jackson did a fine job in responding to the actions asked of him. Please point out the LIE? ill wait....respectively.
He says it would be "quite presumptuous" of them to say they're God's channel of communication. Well, then, they're presumptuous. It's written in their own words for all to see. “That faithful slave is the channel through which Jesus is feeding his true followers in this time of the end. It is vital we recognize the faithful slave. *Our spiritual health and our relationship with God depend on this channel.”* -- WT, 7/15/2013, p20 NOTE: Jackson joined the GB in September 2005, so he was a member of the GB when this issue of the WT was published. “Unless we are in touch with this *channel of communication that God is using* , we will not progress along the road to life, no matter how much Bible reading we do.” -- Watchtower, Dec 1, 1981 Wow. The actions of the GB are more important to your spiritual progress than the Bible. Who knew?
...""" In the re-creation [ Paradise Earth ] when the Son of man sits down ...... you [ the 144,000 ] ... will also sit upon 12 thrones JUDGING the 12 tribes of Israel.""" OR those allowed to live in Paradise Earth because of being OBEDIENT. Those in Paradise Earth will positively KNOW what is meant by the 12 tribes of Israel, ALL WILL BE in AGREEMENT. EPHESIANS 4: 4~6🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤗🤗🤗🤗
No current JW would watch this. I tried hard to get a close family member to watch this, making VERY clear that it was from a direct government (ie non "apostate) source...She point blank refused. They have been instructed recently to watch, or read NOTHING about JWs that doesn't come from them. They are told every news story or government ruling is the work of Satan.
Paul Buswell I just came across this video and not even excited about telling my family about this because I know they will refuse...even though it’s coming from the horse’s mouth. Damn shame grown ass people are letting men treat them like children. 🙄
Someone needs to get a hold of the video feed at a convention and show this...or get someone on the inside to upload this to the Broadcasting video list.
The elders should encourage the sex abuser to turn themselves over to the authorities in order to gain a good conscience. Instead, the matter is swept under the rug and the congregation is not warned that there is a pedophile in their midst and so the pedophile is allowed to socialize among unknowing and unprepared parents with their children running about. Members of the congregation are taught they are in a 'spiritual paradise', being left totally in the dark as to what is lurking in their midst. I would imagine had God's spirit moved the elders to make correct decisions, these hearings would have been avoided.
But they would not question your direction and you know that! This makes my blood boil! I was born in and wasted the first 23 years of my life in this organization and still have family I can't even talk to anymore because of their "direction".
I too. All my immediate family are in JWs. I left in '86. I write to them and reach out but they don't. Still praying for them. I approached the elders in 86 to have my name removed from their list. I had gotten saved. I profess my salvation by Jesus.
A total eye-opener. The fact that this is just the surface speaks volumes. There's so much more, but this is particularly damning evidence that this is not an organization driven by Jehovah or Jesus. He is extremely evasive and countering the result of the questions and answers rather than simply answering the questions. It's interesting how he keeps saying that not the area of his expertise, but it's things every single JW knows is taught. I'm faded for a 2nd time. Not disfellowshpped,not claiming membership, not desirous of following their rules and regulations. I don't desire any interaction with them. Yet, I have to think about everything that I decide to do because if I do anything the organization doesn't like, I could get a visit and be disfellowshpped. It could be simple as viewing an R-rated movie. If U have a Christmas tree or went to a Christmas party,or say "Merry Christmas", I could be disfellowshpped. There is no way in Earth the elders aren't going to come for you. How does he, on the GB, not know that? He lied. Period. And corporal punishment is not encouraged? My siblings and I were beaten based on those scriptures. Not a few times, but regularly. My brother was being beaten and the neighbors called the police. I have been hit with belts until having welts all over my body, teeth put thru my lips, hit in the head with belt buckles and in my private areas. Our lives were full of physical abuse that was explained as discipline because the Bible says not to spare the rod. I was witness to other witness children in our circle being beaten. I remember being over a friend's house as a family and one of their girls was upstairs being beaten by the mother. My mother actually went up there and was in attendance to this beating. The father and other kids were all downstairs and everyone ignored what was clearly happening. The kids were close in our ages and all girls and we knew the abuse they regularly faced. This was largely because of the organization and the teaching of not sparing the rod. We were literally read the scripture before and after being beaten at times. And now, he says that corporal punishment is not acceptable?? We were terrorized by it, at least I was until the last incident at 14 years old. Not to mention the isolationism that was used along with the beatings. Being punished for weeks on end where you could only go to your room and stay there after school and meetings. The mental abuses were just as severe. There was nowhere we could go, we couldn't do anything and no one was going to risk helping you especially when your father is an elder and your mother is a regular pioneer. Seeing the police leave after my father explained that he was having a "misunderstanding" with my brother was disheartening. They did nothing and my brother basically was afraid to speak out when they were there. I can't imagine the feeling of these children who were abused sexually too. Bring put in a room with the accuser and nothing being done, even making them feel guilty or called liars. The whole culture is one of abuse. The answers given here are egregious. They skirt the question, avoid the question, outright lie and evade. I saw this thinking I would be impressed by the answers given, even though I had been faded for years. I thought I was going to see the way a witness is given. What I got started me on my journey to wake up. In short order I learned about the UN membership, the selling of KHs for money, and the generations changing to overlapping generations. I'm stuck in time as a JW. I couldn't go preach to anyone because a lot of what I learned is no longer taught. That isn't light getting brighter. It's changing the bulb. The impact this organization has had on my life is tremendous. The opportunities missed, the career choices, the financial effects have been great. To see what we were drilled on every single meeting be belittled and made to seem extreme or non-existent by a GB member is disheartening and makes me angry. Ugly, ugly, ugly and not willing to take responsibility. They told us to stand up to the point of losing our lives,but will get on the stand and lie to save their hides and protect the money that we have them to live without working secularly. Selling our KHs we paid the mortgages for, after building them with our hands, and keeping the money.. This cannot be an organization guided by God in any way. There is absolutely no possible way.
As a former JW it just makes me so sad to hear Governing Body member lie/deceive and just fail in defending this religion’s beliefs. Because there is no defense. Well done to ARC.
this guy is so smug and self righteous. totally deluded. He actually doesnt even realize that the man questioning him is 40x more intelligent then him.
So proud of Australia for this Commission. Their investigation was so thorough and their tenacity was exemplary. How frustrating to try & question these cowardly, evasive pedagogs. Hopefully this is just the beginning of exposing the lunacy & cruelty of this cult
Why not just post this video why narrate ? For those who were here ready to slander ? Interesting I'm from an era where the truth spoke for itself Interesting times we are in
Scott Gates - Don’t pay too much attention to this guy. He’s a nutcase that has gotten around 10 accounts closed for harassing anyone that speaks against the Watchtower.
And he is a representative of Jesus , I’m chocking , they have to stop now, the g b have turned me away from any further beliefs of Jehovah’s Witnesses, but not Jehovah, thank you Jesus they don’t have the power to fool anymore , that might be considering becoming an apostate to the religion they already are
If we want to know whether he is lying or telling the truth why don't we really study the bible ,than we Will know if he is appointed by Jehovah God, than we won't be like korah and associates in the book of NUMBERS 16: 1-50 Who were destroyed for going against Gods appointed servant..So we really need to be very careful when saying thing's we aren't really familiar with ..
@@keithsmith6563 I'm disfellowshipped but I love Jehovah, I have been treated so badly from members of the congregation. I still talk to Jehovah in prayer but can never go back because of all my bad experiences from the congregation. They stumbled me out of the truth and I can never go bavk due to my mental health. I really love Jehovah and he's looked after me when others turned their backs or ripped in to me. I cannot take anymore but only Jehovah knoes what I've been through and how broken inside I am.
So where do you go to get everlasting life where is your new international Jehovah church everyone's interested in your website and international preaching campaign
Ct Wrassel I don’t have anything, the bible says Jesus is the way the truth and the life, that’s what I follow Jesus, I havnt found a teligion yet that told the whole truth a bit if truth, a bit of scripture twisting g and lies, I don’t k ow any more then anyone except hesus is salvation and died for us, I have no answers I pray and hope in faith I cubs the right way, each person has their own way, and each to their own
@@keithsmith6563 THE TRUE GOD APPOINTED SERVANT FOR US IS JESUS CHRIST ,luke 9:35 and Matt 17:5 ,so YOU need to be very CAREFUL when saying things you are not FAMIILAR with,MATT 12:22-32 ,SO be VERY CAREFUL in saying who you think GOD APPOINTED SERVANT THROUGH HOLY SPIRIT IS,IS IT the gb or is it JESUS you make your CHOICE .Jer 17:5 AND PSALMS 146:1-6 ,READ YOUR BIBLE IN CONTEXT ,and leave them watchtower magazines ALONE!!! Psalms 109:105 and Psalms1:1-6.
WOW, One BIG LIE. They have always considered themselves as The almighty God's spokesmen on earth, and the only True one at that. They have ALWAYS said that they are the ONE and ONLY true religion on earth . They consider themselves as having the TRUTH.
Well, a member of the governing body said, while he was being questioned, that it would be wrong to assume that they are the only ones that have the truth. He lied my friend, and after being a witness for 28 years, I do not feel that J.W's are the most loving people on earth. I firmly believe that they are NOT the most loving people but the WORST. And I know exactly what I'm talking about, don't tell me I don't. They only help themselves, they DO NOT practice the same love that our lord Jesus Christ taught. They have NO IDEA what that kind of love means. In fact, they are taught to HATE< they think that any one who isn't a witness is wicked, mentally diseased, and is influenced by Satan. The Governing body are EVIL people. And it's OVERTIME you WAKE UP and smell the roses.
William Chylik There have been pure souls all over the earth, but there have never been this many who worship the One True God. Anyone who reads your crap, can simply go to a Kingdom Hall and see you are really messed up. What did you to to get thrown out? They practice the same love exactly as Jesus Taught. And they hate what is evil on this earth, because Jehovah hates it. We can easily see that there is no other group with this level of love.
It's the organization that's in trouble, I actually still love Jehovah's Witnesses. They unfortunately practice what ever the governing body tells them to practice. There's a lot wrong with the organization.. The organization and the almighty are two different things. I really suggest you look into the child molestation problem that exist. Governing Body member jackson admits the organization has a BAD problem. He also admits their policies have to be changed. They have paid out close to a hundred million dollars toward these serious cases. And there's thousands on file at headquarters. It's been going on too long. The almighty God Jehovah does not direct an organization who allows such a thing. It's a extremely Bad situation, among all the other issues at stake. And then most of all. Our lord Jesus Christ. He is the truth, the way, and the light. Jesus is the truth,and the organization doesn't see that. That's all we need. Jesus Christ.
+William Chylik Hello, I am sorry to hear you was taken in for 28 years by the lies, I was studying for 7 months, until I found out the real truth about the WT society around 2 weeks ago. I went to my 'friends' house I was studying with, showed him my evidence, and he said it was all fake, apostate lies. Even though a lot of my evidence was from jw.orgs own online library, of old watchtowers. I believe most JW's are good people however, they are just lied to so much and brainwashed by the governing body. He got angry, screwed up my paper, and threw it at me, and was rather nasty-and said exactly what I had been told he would to me. I am glad I found out the real truth before I got baptised. I am also glad you found out the governing body do not practice what Jesus taught, have no idea of love, and are evil. It was a real shock to me, so I can only imagine after 28 years how much it was for you-I hope you are OK after all that happened, and are happy knowing the real truth. All the best, Conan.
Well, when I get comments from Good people like you who understand how hard it really must of been, getting out of their BOX, so to speak, it makes me feel better. I'm very happy for you, that you saw the Falsehood
fading may allow you to keep your connection to your parents but you're not going to keep your friendships. If you're not living as a witness you won't keep those relationships long before being disfellowshiped. The effect of all 3 possibilities is essentially the same.
That's not true... I know lots that are inactive or have disassociated themselves.. they still keep in touch.and are friends.. of course some might not be as close cause they no longer have the same things In common.. duh
@@user-cd6xp5lk4c Exactly. I think most of the comments are about the extreme cases (apostasy especially). In general, relationships will never be the same of course but not as severe as most commenters here want to claim. Families should remain bonded regardless. It's like politics. Never a good topic around the dining table.
This CLEARLY SHOWS that the WHOLE GOVERNING BODY is AMITTINGLY saying that THEY ARE NO DIFFERENT THAN ANYONE ELSE IN ANY CONGREGATION TO BE GOD'S SPOKESMAN. Jeffrey just SAID. "WE ARE FELLOW WORKERS WITH OUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS" AND" THAT THE SCRIPTURES CLEARLY SHOW THAT SOMEONE COULD ACT IN HARMONY WITH GOD'S SPIRIT IN GIVING COMFORT AND HELP IN THE CONGREGATION" HE CLEARLY KNOWS THAT THEY ARE NOT THE ONLY ONES BEING DIRECTED BY GOD AND IT WOULD BE PRESUMPTUOUS OF HIM TO CLAIM THAT THEY ARE THE ONLY SPOKESMEN. ALL JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES KNOW THAT, THIS IS ABSOLUTELY NOT WHAT THE GB PUT OUT IN THEIR PUBLICATIONS AND LITERATURE..FOR DECADES! ITS ALWAYS BEEN THAT THE GB WAS THE SOLE CHANNEL BETWEEN GOD. AND ABSOLUTELY NO ONE ELSE HAS THAT PRIVILEGE. JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES ARE NOT EVEN TO QUESTION ANYTHING ONCE THEY ARE BAPTIZED IN REGARDS TO DOCTRINES, DECISIONS, SECRET POLICIES ECT. ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. EVEN IF THE MEMBERS KNOW THAT GB IS WRONG ACCORDING TO SCRIPTURES. THESE GOVERNING BODY MEMBERS ALONG WITH THEIR ELDER BODY MEMBERS ARE ALL DELIBERATELY KNOWINGLY TREATING THEIR MEMBERS LIKE A SHEEP WITHOUT A SHEPARD..ALWAYS PLAYING WITH WORDS AND INTERROGATING AND HARASSING INDIVIDUALS IN JUDICIAL MEETINGS AND FEAR MONGERING THEM ROUTINELY. ITS SHAMEFUL AND AN EMBARRASSMENT TO GOD ALMIGHTY. THIS IS A VERY DANGEROUS ORGANIZATION FULL OF VERY MISLEADING DOCTRINES. AND CONSTANTLY FLIP FLOPPING. THEY EXPECT FREE LABOR, YOUR CONTRIBUTIONS AND UNKNOWN PEDOPHILES AROUND YOUR COUNTRY CHILDREN. THEY ARE VERY SKILLED ON PRAYING ON PEOPLE WHO ARE GENERALLY ON BAD TIMES OR DESPERATE. NOT ONLY ARE THEY PROTECTING PEDOPHILES THEY THEMSELVES ARE RELIGIOUS PREDATORS. USING GOD'S WORD THE BIBLE TO GUILT PEOPLE AND TO MAKE THEM SLAVES FOR THEIR ORGANIZATION. PEOPLE ARE LEAVING THIS ORGANIZATION IN VERY VERY LARGE NUMBERS. SUICIDES ARE AT A RECORD HIGH IN THIS ORGANIZATION AND PEOPLE ARE SEVERELY DEPRESSED. A GREAT DEAL OF THEM HAVE LOST THEIR FAMILIES. THIS IS A HIGH MIND CONTROL GROUP AND A VERY DANGEROUS CULT. YOU LOOSE YOUR LONGTIME FRIENDS AND FAMILY IF YOU EVER WANT TO LEAVE. FOR ANY REASON. YOUR WHOLE SOCIAL NETWORK IS GONE AND EVERYONE TURNS THEIR BACKS ON YOU. AND THESE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN MADE TO BELIEVE THAT THIS IS LOVING AND FROM GOD. IF YOU ARE A JW. GET OUT OF THIS ORGANIZATION. DO NOT CONTINUE TO DONATE ANY MONEY OR TIME TO THESE PEOPLE WHO ARE NON CHARITABLE THEMSELVES. THEY HAVE NEVER IN THE HISTORY OF THIS RELIGION HAVE EVER GAVE MONEY FROM THE WATCHTOWER TRACT SOCIETY TO ITS MEMBERS TO HELP THEM IN TROUBLED TIMES. THEY DO NOT CARE. ALL THEY WANT IS DEDICATION TO THEM AND YOUR MONEY AND FREE LABOR. ITS VERY SUGAR COATED TO APPEAR ONE WAY AND IT IS SOMETHING TOTALLY DIFFERENT ONCE YOU ARE IN. AND IT'S VERY HORRIFIC FOR THEM TO USE GOD'S WORD TO MANIPULATE PEOPLE. BECAUSE THEY KNOW THAT WE ARE ALL SINNERS AND THEY TRULY CAPITALIZE ON THAT. RESEARCH EVERYTHING THAT HAS BEEN MENTIONED ITS ALL OUT THERE AND DOCUMENTED. LISTEN TO THE STORIES OF EX MEMBERS. THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT ALL LYING. THESE ARE TRUE STORIES.
Also if they had women on judicial committees they would never get anywhere with disfellowshipping women that they want disfellowshipped, this would make it where justice will prevail and the WT doesn't want that.
Christian women were not on the Governing Body in Jerusalem during the first century. We are told to follow the example set by Jesus and his apostles. If we deviate from that example we cannot be called Christian. A mother or friend can certainly accompany a child or young person when meeting with elders.
A governing body is a group that has authority to exercise governance over an organization. Under the Christian congregation a group of men met in Jerusalem and made decisions which was sent out to the congregations. Acts 15:6-21. The apostles and older men met to settle a matter.
What happened to "boldly witnessing" to the superior authorities? He isn't doing that at all, and sidestepping the questions or plainly not answering them. When I was a witness, I figured if I went to court, I would defend the truth with all my might. Using the scriptures as my source documents. If you have the scriptures to back you up, why doesn't he boldly proclaim "the truth?" It's sickening and I can't finish this video.
A slanderer goes about revealing confidential talk, But the trustworthy person* keeps a confidence.- Proverbs 11:13 “There is . . . a time to be silent and a time to speak.”-Ecclesiastes 3:1, 7.
As a disassociated ex jw, i was seen smoking cigarettes, that's all I did wrong I have first hand experience of how they ruin your life and push the blame on you, they take away everything you hold dear, they leave you fend for yourself after controlling you, then you are treated like a disease by everyone you know, my mother was the only one who treated me like a human, she died 10 years ago at her funeral I was asked to be discreet, what a way to treat someone and they claim to be loving Christian's have a laugh
@@daroweilburg7706wow that is exactly what the organization promotes. Robots to defend their decisions. Smoking is not good for anyone but neither is completely shunning someone and not allowing their family members to speak to them. The Bible is weaponized by Jehovah’s Witnesses to keep the sheep in line and nothing the organization tells its members to do, even if it means sacrificing family members, is too outrageous for them. They are told to have boundaries for everyone and everything except from within. Interesting
I'm glad this came to light. I'm only watching this to know what to say when I see them (jehovas witnesses) this week. They think they will convert me and I think I will convert them. The reason I know Jesus is the way the truth and life is because In the last words of the KJV Bible, New Testament, Revelations, last few words: basically, If anyone adds words to this book, they will be severely punished and Anyone who takes away any words will also be punished. What more is there to say? Considering they always change things in the Bible.
The September 1st 2017 Letter to all Elders clearly states that victims or those who know of an allegation of child sexual abuse, will be instructed by elders that they can freely, without reprimand, contact the authorities. The elders will still only contact the legal dept of the society.
Although there were still some important things that you could put in a summary of the comments, you've done an excellent job. Regarding the role of women as judges. Mr. G. Jackson says, "The role of judges in the congregation is on men. We shall never fall in that." Mr. Peter McClellan ask; "Can you give me a reference for that?" Why a member of the governing body forgets that God does not forbid women to be judges. In book Judges 4:4,5 is written; "Now DEBORAH, a prophetess, the WIFE of Lappidoth, was JUDGING Israel ..., and the sons of Israel would GO UP TO HER FOR JUDGMENT." Is this is not "BIBLE PRECEDENT SAMPLE" for that ??!! also as one person testimony in book Deuteronomy 22:25-27 !!!!!!! But Mr. G. Jackson said he will ask Jesus for answer once in the future. Shame on him !
@@pawelwalecki9363 JW interprets NT in such a way that members of the 144,000 class, made up of Women and Men, will be kings and priests along with Christ and judge people. So I don't see what the problem is. Why do GB and JW elders feel that only they have the privilege of participating in the “decision making aka judging” of their spiritual brothers and sisters in present time, and women in the future? :) The existence of exceptions, such as Deborah, proves that God has nothing against women in the position of judge. Because, probably, he would not allow an exception to happen in "his organization". On the other hand, what if God “allows” JW men not to allow JW women access to management positions in a JW organization, but does not approves such conduct. Furthermore, both OT and NT have an expiration date. After them always comes something new and different. Maybe, before God, NT fulfilled its purpose as well as OT, and JW followers didn’t recognize it?
But more importantly, if you are a loving Christian, surely you would want to make survivors as comfortable as possible? Many have said they got far kinder & empathetic treatment from police & other authorities. What an indictment on the JWs
Why hide and dodge behind words? If you are so proud of the doctrine and policies that are "spirit directed" why cower behind double talk? Truth? I think not.
thats exactly what I thought. If you are the "guardians of doctrine" then why not STAND UP for your doctrines instead of weaseling around the questions to downright lying about them. If these doctrines are from God then they would say "yes this is what we believe no matter what you or anyone thinks!" guardians of dogshit more like it
They arent likely JWs some and others likely came into JW as Lawyers..there was reach out by the WT about looking for professionals like lawyers..this way fees are low or pro bono.. things are bad for them.
Interesting, around the 23 min mark he says he wish he could ask Jesus himself what he meant. But I thought Jehovah and Jesus were communicating with you directly. Like, isn't that the whole reason you're the "faithful and discreet slave?"
""" Unless those days were cut short, no flesh would be saved, but on account OF THE CHOSEN ONES, THOSE DAYS WILL BE CUT SHORT.""" Matthew 24:15~23 🤔🤔🤔😊😊😊😊😊
It is a pity that not all the questions are presented here. The part where Jackson states that only men can be judges and the judge cites Judges 4:4, where Devorah was the judge in Israel is missing. And overall, it's 2023 and we know well that no women have been allowed into the hearings and committees related with child abuse. Seven years later. Because no one truly cares about the feelings of the victims who, according to the rules, have to talk about what happened to them in the presence of the rapist. The main thing is to conceal such incidents in any way possible. So as not to tarnish the reputation of God's “pure” organization.
At 4:42 he asks the representative of the governing body if they change the scriptures from time to time oh, and he dares to answer yes. So they change the scriptures to their liking from time to time to their interpretation? Are you kidding me?
Rebecca YOU need to listen very carefully to his questions and the answer that is given, the SCRIPTURES ARE NEVER CHANGED ONLY THE (UNDERSTANDING) OF THE SCRIPTURES .
As an ex JW they are speaking out of both sides of their mouth. They 100% teaching something else lol. No practicing or believing JW is allowed to watch this.
@Jakota Justice - I'm the lair? That's rich. Hahaha! Can you please point to my lie? Oh, so the 23,000 Jehovah's Witnesses database of pedophiles are actually FBI agents inside the organization. Good to know. Your little racist remark was a fail. I'm not Mexican... "ese." Hahaha! Hahaha!
I can't for the life of me understand Jackson's bizarre hedging on corporal punishment. The jury is out on the effectiveness of corporal punishment, isn't it? Even a lot of psychiatrists are unsure if it's worthwhile or not, so why is Jackson acting as if he's afraid he's going to get in trouble for admitting the Governing Body don't condemn it?
"...if we were to give some direction that is not in harmony with God's word, all of Jehovah's witnesses worldwide who have the bible would notice that..." Really? What have those same witnesses been told? "All who want to understand the Bible should appreciate that the greatly diversified *wisdom of God can become known only through Jehovah’s channel of communication* , the faithful and discrete slave." -- Watchtower, Oct 1, 1994, p8 So, no --- they won't notice since only the GB can understand scripture -- at least according to the GB. “Unless we are in touch with this channel of communication that God is using (Governing Body), we will not progress along the road to life, no matter how much Bible reading we do.” -- Watchtower, Dec 1, 1981 Witnesses are told over and over to obey, even if the instructions of their leaders don't make sense. Jackson is saying something in front of the ARC that he would *NEVER* stand up and say at a convention or on JW Broadcasting.
This opened my eyes and left this cult ... this is the real truth but they lie about this to the members ... yet l mention this to them ... they say that this is a lie and that ppl are against them cos they are the chosen ones ..
@@bloodychanges8557 - And then you ask yourself why RUclips is deleting your accounts. LOL! How much time do you have on your hands? You've opened 5 new accounts today? You really need help.
Why didn’t he tell the poor guy that the g b Removed ex that part of the bible, it’s gone , they couldn’t take it , that scripture was hurting their doctrine, how many scriptures have been removed and or altered , I’d love to know but my peace here is Jehovah and Jesus know, they cannot hide from God
JWS CAN NOT CALL THEMSELVES CHRISTIANS. BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT BEING BAPTIZED IN TH E NAME OF THE FATHER , THE NAME OF THE SON AND THE NAME OF THE HOLY SPIRIT, ACCORDING TO MATHEW 24:14. INSTEAD IN THE BAPTISMAL TALK THEY ARE ASKED " DO YOU REPENT OF YOUR SINS " AND " DO YOU ACCEPT THE WATCHTOWER SOCIETY AS GODS ORGANIZATION ON EARTH". I WENT TO A SPANISH SPEAKING ASSEMBLY AT NATICK MA. WHERE THERE WERE 1500 IN ATTENDANCE AND THERE WAS NOT ONE CANDIDATE FOR BAPTISM. THE SPEAKER GAVE THE TALK ANYWAY. AFTERWARDS THERE WAS A HUGE SILENCE. THE ENTIRE ASSEMBLY WAS STUNNED. I GAVE MY WIFE THE 'I TOLD YOU SO' LOOK.
on the discipline part. God I remember getting my ear pulled REALLY hard for falling asleep in the meetings or the belt when I got home becuase my brother and I playing with pencils in the hall.
You would expect a spiritual man to keep going back to Jehovah. "Jehovah says they can" "Jehovah says they should." "Jehovah says it's right." "Jehovah says it's wrong." "Jehovah leads us." Instead, he just keeps going back to what he thinks, saying it's not his responsibility, and the like...
This made me weep. I sobbed and sobbed, nearly unable to stop, from what was said and from all of my personal experiences within this organization. Now I'm going to write a book about it. When we consider Deborah, Abigail, Hannah, Sarah, Esther. . . as opposed to today, where we women are treated like SHIT. TOTAL SHIT. This organization cannot have God's favor, anymore. And that realization is quite crushing.
@@EfrainRiveraJunior I just looked up their online library. They have a list of all the judges and omitted Deborah and replaced her with Barak. It literally says in the bible that she judged Israel, whereas, Barak commanded an army. They just want to promote the narrative of women never being leaders in the bible when that’s not the case.
In almost every case, the tape is edited, cutting off valuable context added by Mr. Jackson that could explain further the rightfullness of their stand. Play the entire testimony without cutting out sections of testimony, thereby taking text out of context.
Hi, great video and editing! I want to translate this video into dutch.Do you have by any chance still the project files so I can also translate the titles and comments?
Why can’t someone edit this video and remove the female jurist and highlight the prosecutor speaking . it would make the conversation and video so much more understandable than having the prosecutor in a very small corner of the video asking questions .
So if the elders determine which scriptures should be read literally and which ones metaphorically then surely that means all the in-congruent flavours of Christianity that focus on different parts of the Bible while discounting others are all based on relatively determined biblical interpretations. No wonder faith in religion produces conflicting beliefs and doctrines. Nothing is absolutely correct in the Bible or any of the various creeds. It's obvious as with the Bible itself. Lets be honest, all the creeds are flawed man made contrivances. What's the point of adhering to the Bible when it fails to discriminate between crimes and sins? Fails to prevent both, in fact often incites sins, crimes and immoral behaviour? Produces so much conflict and misery? What's the point of Religion? If all the various Christian creeds all disagree with every other creed but there own after all of them are reading from the same instruction manual, The Bible? Chaos and Confusion and, Sadly often violence, is what get when you place your life in faith over reason.
This is a smart lawyer, However he has a team behind him aiding him to craft question to lead to a conclusion to mis-interpretation and understanding of an organization.One should note that all institutions or organizations has rules and regulations and its up to people to obey them or not. if theirs no rules then their would not be no one to answer to. Mr. Geoffrey Jackson has done is best to answer questions , however I see that he needed help to give a clear answer to some of the questions placed by the lawyer. It was clear that the lawyer was able to ask yes and no question, However you could not explain or give a reason for your answers by the defendant, while the lawyer was able to create situations to prove a point. Lets be balance, if theirs a case that requires the law of the land to intervene we should allow it and if theirs a case that does not require the law of the land then its up to a group to make that decision.
2Timothy 2:10 For this reason I go on enduring all things for the sake of the chosen ones, so that they too may obtain the salvation that is through Christ Jesus, along with everlasting glory
What a liar. We were stalked in Elmira, Ontario because we wanted to leave quietly. The elders of that hall sat outside our gate for six hours the one Saturday. They also harrassed everyone in the congregation asking they knew anything bad about us. They couldn't find any dirt on us and still disfellowshipped me in absentia meaning I didn't go to the kangaroo court where I wasn't allowed any witnesses or lawyer. They are an evil religion.
You must remember,they are groomed from birth..why would a mother do such a evil deed to her child , it's the perverse men .go and talk to a group of 4 or 5. You can actually feel the evil .. I've done it on 2 occasions to make sure.i wasn't kidding my self.
If they are all the governing body and approved by God shouldn't they all be in unison? Instead they excuse themselves by way of ignorance and passing the question to a different member of the "faithful and discreet slave"
Tony Morris of the Governing Board, At Bottleking bought a liquor horde for Jehovah, our god, does not find it odd, to get sauced in the morn with the Lord.
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We were encouraged from childhood to stand up for our faith,
show courage at school, be ridiculed by students and this man
couldn’t do any of those things. 🤨😡
Gutless liar
These bastards have never apologized and should be charged for misleading information and deliberate lying to protect their bank accounts
“Unlike churches where the people do not talk to each other”,WOW this guys has absolutely no clue what he is talking about! Relationship building is an important aspect of every church community!
Clearly not the Catholic church. The only person I had was Big Brother. Go fuck yourselves.
I'm atheist and that one had me scratching my head too, lol!
He was referring to all of the other churches of the same religion... not just the church you are in. Just like they have so many kingdom halls in one city , they all talk and associate with all the other members of other halls in that city.. they don't just socialize within that particular one they're in.. Most PPL that go to a church don't have much to do with the same church on the other side of the city .for example, .. they keep to their own.
@Rob Mullin - Good comment.
@@user-cd6xp5lk4cLying for the WT?
When Malcolm X was asked if he believed Elijah Muhammad was the messager from God, without hesitation, he firmly answered, "Definitely." He responded quickly and unequivocally, " How differently was Jackson 's answer about his role as a governing body to being a spokesperson or "messager" of God and as the ones providing "spiritual food" and guidance to JW. Throughout his testimony, there was none of the strength and conviction of Apostle Paul's or te fine fight for the faith. JWs who went on trial and even prison following the governing body's directions have shown more faith.
Malcolm X is Patrice Lumumba. That was all a hoax, fake scripted theater
I keep saying this. This is so true.
He will never, just answer the question.
rusty mugg so true. It’s like that in the organization.
And the lady judge is sitting there listening to Jeffrey saying no woman to be on the committee 😅😅😅
The key word is "presumptuous". For those who are still active and those who are doing their investigative work, this word he used should strike a chord. Why would he say "presumptuous" knowing full well in their literature they claim to be "spirit directed" by Jehovah, that they've been chosen by Jesus in 1919. He used that word because he knows that's exactly what it is, all they have been doing since Russell is self-proclamation nothing more but the rabbit hole goes deeper.
Now we have to say they're consciously lying and that is NOT exceptable knowing full well people lives are at stake.
Not buying your'e explanations electric earth... He is trying to skip around the answers to questions.Which is lying I'm sure you will find that throughout the literature.The funny thing is I never considered something called THE TRUTH a doctrine that needed guarding. Growing up I was taught that The BIBLE guided us Ps 119:108 youre word is a Lamp to my foot and a light to my roadway. With saying that the bible doesn't change but literature HAS! If they were truly gods people this wouldve never happened . Gods Holy Spirit obviously is not in these congregations where the victims are. Who is over these congregations? The WTBTS is the head of the overseers who OVERSEE the congregations. Therefore would it not be reasonable to say that there is a lack of Holy spirit in the WTBTS?
meroe329 right on the button, you have hit the nail on the head. This man is a liar, like his father the Devil.
WT does not follow the bible, far from it
Electric Earth Hm sounds like we have another Bethel Troll working/lurking the comment section to try and save face for the false prophets aka the Governing Body. How much do they pay you working in the IT department and to troll this ex JW websites? Or are you working for your eternal salvation? Spin it any way you want, the Truth ALWAYS comes out.
Did you know back in 2013 they changed the 1919 doctrine. They now state that Jesus will choose the faithful and discreet slave during the great tribulation. Another red flag
The discipline thing is such a lie. My dad beat the shit out of us as children, cause the congregation allowed it.
Joel bro this is who you want to be around because your pop beat you?
At the kingdom hall in front of the elders?
@Joel Perez - Many children were physically abused by their J-Dub parents.
Yeah like efrain
Efrain wanted more medicine from the Dr his mom told him mijo we don't have a Dr he said Mommy I always heard medicine is good for you his mother didn't want to give him psychiatric medicine so basically he ran away from the Kingdom Hall and now it's all because you were beaten by your father inside the Kingdom Hall in front of the parents while Geoffrey Jackson watched from this Australian courtroom
Efrain is a ketamine sniffer huh?
That would explain why he a £*$$@
This is a genuine masterclass in how to never, ever give a straight answer to a straight question...Fortunately the judge saw through his deceit, and continued to press the question when Jackson pretended he didn't understand. The blatant lying was shocking to watch.
Well said, Paul. How many JWs do you think will ever see this, though? That's why they get away with stuff like this. Their folks, for whom I feel genuine sorrow, have an almost superstitious fear of questioning the GB. That's the funny thing about truth, though. If it really is true, it should not only stand up to scrutiny, but it should also encourage it.
It looks that way to you because you don't know the scriptures and neither does the judge. The judges questions reflect a lack of respect for the scriptures. That is why the judge doesn't understand or even know how to formulate a coherent question
@@ucanliv4ever Thanks for your response. I don't agree with you, but there's no point in opening that debate because you'll just accuse me of not knowing the scriptures any time I disagree with you. Have a nice day.
Very well butt since this is a public forum it's not all about you. You have to admit that anyone taught by Jehovah will draw a different conclusion than this video promotes. Anyone not familiar with spiritual matters would pose questions like the judge does and draw conclusions based on THAT world view.
We commonly hear the charge that Brother Jackson was lying or being evasive. However, anyone taught by Jehovah immediately recognizes that he was just being humble. If he was lying he would be fined and or jailed for perjury, which he was not.
What you are looking at is not a legitimate court. It is a hi tech lynch mob.
The very name " Royal" Australian Commission should send up warning flags. So ultimately the queen of England is responsible for this travesty and not we the people of Australia. If you think her and the pope don't have an agenda to stop jw's then you are not paying attention.
The only blatant lie is in the show notes...
"The Royal Commission found 1006 cases of pedophiles withing Jehovah's Witnesses organization, all of which were not reported to the authorities."
I looked up the reference provided in the show notes and contrary to what the video maker would like you to think, he conveniently left out the word "alleged" . So these were alleged pedophiles. In other words, innocent until proven guilty.
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“This isn’t my field…” says a Governing Body Member.
Because to be honest they’re not the real owner of JW. Org nobody’s know who owns this church
@@MarkSchneider-q6e ROTHSCHILD OWNS THE LOT OF THEM, INCLUDING ALL THE LAND AND BUILDINGS.
@@sarabelli6695 If you want to be taken seriously provide sources dear.
Between the 1:20 and 2:40 mark is one of the most important things he said in regards to the organization
And that is "... It would be presumptuous of us to believe we are the only ones God is using..." that speak volumes BUT! that's not what they teach in their literature.
Not sure what he meant about that.
Basically there can be other religions God is using besides them.
This blew my mind that they said they don’t presume to be the only ones God is using. They directly say time and time again in print that they are the ONLY ones and everyone else is false.
@@jaynestagg9460 he meant "I'm too embarrassed to answer"
Jesus died for everyone. The JW's believe they have been chosen to Preach and teach the Gospel in all the world. They do a tremendous Bible educational work. There are no paid clergy at any level including the Governing Body. The contributions are used for spreading the Word in all the inhabited earth.. We study, research and pray for forgiveness and direction. And can make errors like anyone.
The Bible is there for anyone to read, obey and follow the teachings. That is what he means. JW'S do not have exclusive possession of God's Word. They try to follow their commission.
In the case of a female victim bringing an allegation against an elder, most people would understand that she would be afraid and intimidated, Jeffrey Jackson doesn't really understand or show empathy to a female victim. You can really see that. Its horrible and we can plainly see how witness women rarely get justice with this kind of thinking in the congregation.
I dont understand where these victims family members are at. If it were my child, sister, wife, mother, that elder would be a dead elder
If a person is violated forensic evidence needs to be obtained at a hospital ASAP. A meeting with elders can give evidence later. The forensic evidence can assist the elders in making a decision about dealing with the wrongdoer. The authorities can prosecute the guilty person. The elders can only decide if the person can stay in good standing in the congregation. They can not prosecute a wrongdoer.
That sounds good on paper but so many wheels to turn. You must realize that each case is different so of course there is no one answer to all of the cases this is why it is left up to the family to contact police and in some cases to the mandated reporter. I’m all they Jane never in my experience disuádete someone from contacting the police and report it. Now, has it happened? Yes., I’m sure but most likely a person who did not fully understand the rules.
@@brendaamaya2445 A LOT OF THERE FAMILIES ARE RIGHT THERE IN THE CONGREGATION ,THEY TREAT THERE FAMILY WORSE THAN THE ELDERS .BY SHUNNING THEM.1TIMOTHY 5:8
@@dinahkruppa913 AMEN MY SISTER ,WORD OF MOUTH ,AND FORENSIC evidence,THERES your two witnesses,if they cared ,why not have a wt study on THAT TOPIC,IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN .MATT 7:15
So proud of him for BOLDLY Giving A Witness to ALL the Nations, standing up in front of the Superior Courts to Be Identified as God’s One True spokespeople on Earth
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Jehovah's will always win...but best believe a witnesses will be given. 66 books of evidence ❤😂 😊
Wow....They DISFELLOWSHIP people on HEAR SAY,,,but they won't do the same for these innocent babies....wow....DOES THAT NOT SOUND SCREWED UP TO YOU PEOPLE...
brandybeckydoc totally it’s utterly disgusting!
Bravo, I see you read and understand the Bible. May I say what " they " do ?
You trickster !
Hahaha
Your fantasy mission on youtube
Get ready for Death and Destruction
Very screwed up.
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He is lying. Any one who suggests their interpretation is wrong is labeled an apostate and disfellowshipped.
Well hes not wrong i have a bible and i see when its wrong :DDD i just cant say it out loud.
if anyone accused the governing body of wrong direction they would be DISFELLOWSHIPED
Jehovahs the judge. As in sauls case and samuel when eli's sons did many things against Jehovah at the temple. In Jehovahs time he sorts it out.
@@jaynestagg9460 jehovah is a bullshit murderer of infants unless of course he doesn't exist. In any case your cult says you aren't allowed to be here.
Yes Ray Franze was a governing body member who was Disfellowshiped.
Because they want to be God. They’re evil and coward power
I am a witness of Jehovah for40 yrs,,I dissociate my self from this liar..he nor any of the the governing body represent true witnesess of Jehovah...he is a liar and he will be dealt with as a witness of the true God Jehovah I am sorry for all the hurt the victims who have sufferd abuse....
+Geary Kunkel in the early days when Russell was used by Jehovah he struggled to keep apostates at bay when he died a power struggle ensued...this went on until 1976 when the Apostates took control.....Jehovah is using the true annointed ones to reach ppl with the kingdom message but those of the governing body who are liars will be exposed
+irene evans Well Irene, all of the GOOBERING BODY makes the decisions together.
Are you the same Irene Evans from Wales that used to defend against the false teachings of the Book of Enoch? I remember you.
That’s your boy
irene evans hey aposate, Jehovah will judge you!! This video was fake and photoshopped by apostate garbage!
I LITERALY PUNCHED MY COMPUTER SCREEN TO PUNCH HIS FACE
I feel your pain ♥️♥️♥️
@Jakota Justice A good justice kick in the face for you you fucking bitch!
@@exjwconfessions - This "HeFlysWith FleshEatingEagles" dude and his other mental "Warrior Birds" friend are here only to troll. Although I suspect that they are the same person that had his account closed for harassing people and now opened a new one.
During the Great Tribulation, a part of the earth will be like """ the HOUSE of ATREUS.""" OTHER parts of the Earth will be like """" SODOM and EGYPT."""" where their LORD was also IMPALED.""" REVELATION Chapter 11. Jesus and the 144,000 will NOT need to kill anyone on Earth, because ALL humans have MANY ENEMIES, some ARE those of his ...........
""household"" Matthew 10:36 I am sure you can think of many more yourself, and many others are exceedingly obvious, THESE, all have plans already, in their MINDS, like the
MILITARY, OR """" the DEEP things of SATAN""" and other examples, particularly your own[ Revelation 2:24] that you can think of. ALL mankind will be attacking each other, like
"""ANIMALS """ 2nd Peter 2:12 & Jude 10 and killing each other so VIOLENTLY turning the entire MOON into BLOOD. Matthew 24: 29 The 144,000 are kings of "" loving-kindness""
they will be separating the Sheeps from the Goats Matthew Chapter 25 WHILE MANY FAITHFUL will die, they will have a RESURRECTION. JOHN 11:25
At 8´: "Do you accept physical punishment ? No." You are a liar, Mr. Jackson. And you know it !
+jp or an even better scenario would have been if the judge had himself produced the watchtower article quoted in this video about corporal punishment. the discussion would have gone something like: do you accept corporal punishment? no, i don't personally and as an organization we don't encourage it. then would you mind turning to [page number] of your magazine and explain why here it says that you do?
+jp i totally agree. the guy's only concern is to slip free from the clutches of truth like the eel he is. he most definitely had a team of prompters with flashcards behind his laptop to make his job of lying through his teeth easier. forget GOD, these people have no qualms about having HIM nailed on the cross at every opportunity for the sake of preserving their way of life
I've experience beatings after meetings for not being good enough and have witnessed many children spankings at the kingdom hall bathroom.
jp maybe he is awake.
When Jesus set up the new congregations, dicipline was teaching not physical abuse.
I was a Jehovah's witness since 1999, I was baptized in Germany a Portuguese congregation, I was disfellowshipped in 2013 Phoenix Portuguese congregation. I was 16 years old and yes You Do Not have a choice, even though I believe that due to the rules or the organization when it comes to the decision of wanting to live, by law under age baptism should be banned, why? Because it's a lifelong punishment & commitment. Jesus used to go to the temple, he knew his father, he is the son of God, he came with that purpose but he was baptized as an Man & not as a boy or teenager, we are called to fallow his footsteps. Imagine how satan could use that against God; he could accuse our God of brainwashing Jesus & trap him in early baptism, and many more things...
Our lives are completely turned & changed, the emotional abuse, the way that they label us that no longer believe that they're the chosen ones, they influence how people treat us & our own families, that's abuse & needs to stop.
U can always return to Jehovah Patricia
@@leocarranza5292 we should seek God through Christ the Lord. Let us stop following man and their traditions.
Patricia thats right, I never thought about that. Jesus was 30 when he was baptized! 30! By then, an adult really understands what she/he are doing. Really understanding the implications. And yet Witnesses push their 10, 11 yr old kids to get baptized. They are not following Jesus' example. They want to get them in early before the children have a chance to think for themselves. I don't think there's any examples in the Biblw where it mentions children being baptised.
@@theresaakins2317 mind you. Samuel lived in the temple from about 5yrs. Did he have a choice?
You said you were disfellowshipped by the governing body I'm calling you a liar
May GOD forgive you little girl tell everyone what you did to be disfellowshipped by your "local" elders
I remember when I was a Regular Pioneer that I could answer almost any question with the Bible immediately. Yet here is a member of the Governing Body saying that he has to come back with an answer because he doesn't know either the answer or where in the Bible you can find such a response.
Answering a question with the bible is stupid anyway
This man and his side stepping questions disgusts me😡
A slanderer goes about revealing confidential talk,
But the trustworthy person* keeps a confidence.- proverbs 11:13
@@shebossee - Are you saying it is OK for a Governing Body to lie, even though the rank and file are expected to defend their faith regardless of the consequences?
@@EfrainRiveraJunior rank and file?? what are you trying to say here because i am not understanding?.
Brother Geoffrey Jackson did a fine job in responding to the actions asked of him. Please point out the LIE? ill wait....respectively.
He says it would be "quite presumptuous" of them to say they're God's channel of communication. Well, then, they're presumptuous. It's written in their own words for all to see.
“That faithful slave is the channel through which Jesus is feeding his true followers in this time of the end. It is vital we recognize the faithful slave. *Our spiritual health and our relationship with God depend on this channel.”* -- WT, 7/15/2013, p20 NOTE: Jackson joined the GB in September 2005, so he was a member of the GB when this issue of the WT was published.
“Unless we are in touch with this *channel of communication that God is using* , we will not progress along the road to life, no matter how much Bible reading we do.”
-- Watchtower, Dec 1, 1981 Wow. The actions of the GB are more important to your spiritual progress than the Bible. Who knew?
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"We are Jehovah's presumptuous Witnesses"
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...""" In the re-creation [ Paradise Earth ] when the Son of man sits down ...... you [ the 144,000 ] ... will also sit upon 12 thrones JUDGING the 12 tribes of Israel.""" OR those allowed
to live in Paradise Earth because of being OBEDIENT. Those in Paradise Earth will positively KNOW what is meant by the 12 tribes of Israel, ALL WILL BE in AGREEMENT.
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This is the best video a current JW could watch. Clear as day the guy is lying through his teeth.
Your right! This little butterball is talking turkey! lol
They speak with fork tongue , snakes they are
No current JW would watch this. I tried hard to get a close family member to watch this, making VERY clear that it was from a direct government (ie non "apostate) source...She point blank refused.
They have been instructed recently to watch, or read NOTHING about JWs that doesn't come from them.
They are told every news story or government ruling is the work of Satan.
@@paulbuswell6566 brain washing at its finest.
Paul Buswell I just came across this video and not even excited about telling my family about this because I know they will refuse...even though it’s coming from the horse’s mouth. Damn shame grown ass people are letting men treat them like children. 🙄
Someone needs to get a hold of the video feed at a convention and show this...or get someone on the inside to upload this to the Broadcasting video list.
That judge didn’t even know his own question. And it was answered several times
I'm disfellowshipped so stop commenting on these videos.
@REASONING THE TRUTH OF THINGS Jehovah's Witnesses advocate grooming children to obey these old men in order to ostracize them.
Omg it would be amazing for them to upload it to the jw broadcasting
@@yassqueenslay8730 - It would be among if a hacker could upload the Australian Royal Commission to jw_org.
How does the governing body sleep at night? Oh that's right, expensive scotch.
#Bottlegate
Is that how you sleep at night?
@@AxleStaff - Exactly what I was thinking, LOL!
@@dinahkruppa913 - Who are you trying to convince? Us, or yourself?
@@dinahkruppa913 Lol. Is it also allowable for Tony Morris to buy $900.00 of scotch on Sunday morning while you're in meeting?
The elders should encourage the sex abuser to turn themselves over to the authorities in order to gain a good conscience. Instead, the matter is swept under the rug and the congregation is not warned that there is a pedophile in their midst and so the pedophile is allowed to socialize among unknowing and unprepared parents with their children running about. Members of the congregation are taught they are in a 'spiritual paradise', being left totally in the dark as to what is lurking in their midst. I would imagine had God's spirit moved the elders to make correct decisions, these hearings would have been avoided.
But they would not question your direction and you know that! This makes my blood boil! I was born in and wasted the first 23 years of my life in this organization and still have family I can't even talk to anymore because of their "direction".
I too. All my immediate family are in JWs. I left in '86. I write to them and reach out but they don't. Still praying for them. I approached the elders in 86 to have my name removed from their list. I had gotten saved. I profess my salvation by Jesus.
Thank you all out here , this is so REAL, it almost destroyed ME.
A total eye-opener. The fact that this is just the surface speaks volumes. There's so much more, but this is particularly damning evidence that this is not an organization driven by Jehovah or Jesus. He is extremely evasive and countering the result of the questions and answers rather than simply answering the questions. It's interesting how he keeps saying that not the area of his expertise, but it's things every single JW knows is taught. I'm faded for a 2nd time. Not disfellowshpped,not claiming membership, not desirous of following their rules and regulations. I don't desire any interaction with them. Yet, I have to think about everything that I decide to do because if I do anything the organization doesn't like, I could get a visit and be disfellowshpped. It could be simple as viewing an R-rated movie. If U have a Christmas tree or went to a Christmas party,or say "Merry Christmas", I could be disfellowshpped. There is no way in Earth the elders aren't going to come for you. How does he, on the GB, not know that? He lied. Period. And corporal punishment is not encouraged? My siblings and I were beaten based on those scriptures. Not a few times, but regularly. My brother was being beaten and the neighbors called the police. I have been hit with belts until having welts all over my body, teeth put thru my lips, hit in the head with belt buckles and in my private areas. Our lives were full of physical abuse that was explained as discipline because the Bible says not to spare the rod. I was witness to other witness children in our circle being beaten. I remember being over a friend's house as a family and one of their girls was upstairs being beaten by the mother. My mother actually went up there and was in attendance to this beating. The father and other kids were all downstairs and everyone ignored what was clearly happening. The kids were close in our ages and all girls and we knew the abuse they regularly faced. This was largely because of the organization and the teaching of not sparing the rod. We were literally read the scripture before and after being beaten at times. And now, he says that corporal punishment is not acceptable?? We were terrorized by it, at least I was until the last incident at 14 years old. Not to mention the isolationism that was used along with the beatings. Being punished for weeks on end where you could only go to your room and stay there after school and meetings. The mental abuses were just as severe. There was nowhere we could go, we couldn't do anything and no one was going to risk helping you especially when your father is an elder and your mother is a regular pioneer. Seeing the police leave after my father explained that he was having a "misunderstanding" with my brother was disheartening. They did nothing and my brother basically was afraid to speak out when they were there. I can't imagine the feeling of these children who were abused sexually too. Bring put in a room with the accuser and nothing being done, even making them feel guilty or called liars. The whole culture is one of abuse. The answers given here are egregious. They skirt the question, avoid the question, outright lie and evade. I saw this thinking I would be impressed by the answers given, even though I had been faded for years. I thought I was going to see the way a witness is given. What I got started me on my journey to wake up. In short order I learned about the UN membership, the selling of KHs for money, and the generations changing to overlapping generations. I'm stuck in time as a JW. I couldn't go preach to anyone because a lot of what I learned is no longer taught. That isn't light getting brighter. It's changing the bulb. The impact this organization has had on my life is tremendous. The opportunities missed, the career choices, the financial effects have been great. To see what we were drilled on every single meeting be belittled and made to seem extreme or non-existent by a GB member is disheartening and makes me angry. Ugly, ugly, ugly and not willing to take responsibility. They told us to stand up to the point of losing our lives,but will get on the stand and lie to save their hides and protect the money that we have them to live without working secularly. Selling our KHs we paid the mortgages for, after building them with our hands, and keeping the money.. This cannot be an organization guided by God in any way. There is absolutely no possible way.
Can you please give me a Link to the UN member ship thing and to the selling of the kingdom halls ?
As a former JW it just makes me so sad to hear Governing Body member lie/deceive and just fail in defending this religion’s beliefs. Because there is no defense. Well done to ARC.
He needs to be brought to justice for telling lies under oath a weak and dishonest man
This makes me want to bring back the death penalty.
This makes me angry beyond words.
You hate Australia court that much huh hmmm ok I'm not against ya if you feel so strongly
this guy is so smug and self righteous. totally deluded. He actually doesnt even realize that the man questioning him is 40x more intelligent then him.
Are you suffering emotionally sir try a new healthy diet
Absolutely! That’s why the lies and deception are not swallowed !
So proud of Australia for this Commission. Their investigation was so thorough and their tenacity was exemplary. How frustrating to try & question these cowardly, evasive pedagogs. Hopefully this is just the beginning of exposing the lunacy & cruelty of this cult
Excellent summary of Jackson’s testimony. Thank you.
Why not just post this video why narrate ?
For those who were here ready to slander ?
Interesting
I'm from an era where the truth spoke for itself
Interesting times we are in
Ct Wrassel. We’re any of the narratives incorrect?
Were...auto correct.
Scott Gates - Don’t pay too much attention to this guy. He’s a nutcase that has gotten around 10 accounts closed for harassing anyone that speaks against the Watchtower.
Brilliant, great job, thank you for this.
And he is a representative of Jesus , I’m chocking , they have to stop now, the g b have turned me away from any further beliefs of Jehovah’s Witnesses, but not Jehovah, thank you Jesus they don’t have the power to fool anymore , that might be considering becoming an apostate to the religion they already are
If we want to know whether he is lying or telling the truth why don't we really study the bible ,than we Will know if he is appointed by Jehovah God, than we won't be like korah and associates in the book of NUMBERS 16: 1-50 Who were destroyed for going against Gods appointed servant..So we really need to be very careful when saying thing's we aren't really familiar with ..
@@keithsmith6563 I'm disfellowshipped but I love Jehovah, I have been treated so badly from members of the congregation. I still talk to Jehovah in prayer but can never go back because of all my bad experiences from the congregation. They stumbled me out of the truth and I can never go bavk due to my mental health. I really love Jehovah and he's looked after me when others turned their backs or ripped in to me. I cannot take anymore but only Jehovah knoes what I've been through and how broken inside I am.
So where do you go to get everlasting life where is your new international Jehovah church everyone's interested in your website and international preaching campaign
Ct Wrassel I don’t have anything, the bible says Jesus is the way the truth and the life, that’s what I follow Jesus, I havnt found a teligion yet that told the whole truth a bit if truth, a bit of scripture twisting g and lies, I don’t k ow any more then anyone except hesus is salvation and died for us, I have no answers I pray and hope in faith I cubs the right way, each person has their own way, and each to their own
@@keithsmith6563 THE TRUE GOD APPOINTED SERVANT FOR US IS JESUS CHRIST ,luke 9:35 and Matt 17:5 ,so YOU need to be very CAREFUL when saying things you are not FAMIILAR with,MATT 12:22-32 ,SO be VERY CAREFUL in saying who you think GOD APPOINTED SERVANT THROUGH HOLY SPIRIT IS,IS IT the gb or is it JESUS you make your CHOICE .Jer 17:5 AND PSALMS 146:1-6 ,READ YOUR BIBLE IN CONTEXT ,and leave them watchtower magazines ALONE!!! Psalms 109:105 and Psalms1:1-6.
WOW, One BIG LIE. They have always considered themselves as The almighty God's spokesmen on earth, and the only True one at that. They have ALWAYS said that they are the ONE and ONLY true religion on earth . They consider themselves as having the TRUTH.
Well, a member of the governing body said, while he was being questioned, that it would be wrong to assume that they are the only ones that have the truth. He lied my friend, and after being a witness for 28 years, I do not feel that J.W's are the most loving people on earth. I firmly believe that they are NOT the most loving people but the WORST. And I know exactly what I'm talking about, don't tell me I don't. They only help themselves, they DO NOT practice the same love that our lord Jesus Christ taught. They have NO IDEA what that kind of love means. In fact, they are taught to HATE< they think that any one who isn't a witness is wicked, mentally diseased, and is influenced by Satan. The Governing body are EVIL people. And it's OVERTIME you WAKE UP and smell the roses.
William Chylik There have been pure souls all over the earth, but there have never been this many who worship the One True God.
Anyone who reads your crap, can simply go to a Kingdom Hall and see you are really messed up.
What did you to to get thrown out?
They practice the same love exactly as Jesus Taught.
And they hate what is evil on this earth, because Jehovah hates it.
We can easily see that there is no other group with this level of love.
It's the organization that's in trouble, I actually still love Jehovah's Witnesses. They unfortunately practice what ever the governing body tells them to practice. There's a lot wrong with the organization.. The organization and the almighty are two different things. I really suggest you look into the child molestation problem that exist. Governing Body member jackson admits the organization has a BAD problem. He also admits their policies have to be changed. They have paid out close to a hundred million dollars toward these serious cases. And there's thousands on file at headquarters. It's been going on too long. The almighty God Jehovah does not direct an organization who allows such a thing. It's a extremely Bad situation, among all the other issues at stake. And then most of all. Our lord Jesus Christ. He is the truth, the way, and the light. Jesus is the truth,and the organization doesn't see that. That's all we need. Jesus Christ.
+William Chylik Hello, I am sorry to hear you was taken in for 28 years by the lies, I was studying for 7 months, until I found out the real truth about the WT society around 2 weeks ago. I went to my 'friends' house I was studying with, showed him my evidence, and he said it was all fake, apostate lies. Even though a lot of my evidence was from jw.orgs own online library, of old watchtowers.
I believe most JW's are good people however, they are just lied to so much and brainwashed by the governing body.
He got angry, screwed up my paper, and threw it at me, and was rather nasty-and said exactly what I had been told he would to me.
I am glad I found out the real truth before I got baptised.
I am also glad you found out the governing body do not practice what Jesus taught, have no idea of love, and are evil.
It was a real shock to me, so I can only imagine after 28 years how much it was for you-I hope you are OK after all that happened, and are happy knowing the real truth.
All the best, Conan.
Well, when I get comments from Good people like you who understand how hard it really must of been, getting out of their BOX, so to speak, it makes me feel better. I'm very happy for you, that you saw the Falsehood
fading may allow you to keep your connection to your parents but you're not going to keep your friendships. If you're not living as a witness you won't keep those relationships long before being disfellowshiped. The effect of all 3 possibilities is essentially the same.
That's not true... I know lots that are inactive or have disassociated themselves.. they still keep in touch.and are friends.. of course some might not be as close cause they no longer have the same things In common.. duh
@@user-cd6xp5lk4c Exactly. I think most of the comments are about the extreme cases (apostasy especially). In general, relationships will never be the same of course but not as severe as most commenters here want to claim. Families should remain bonded regardless. It's like politics. Never a good topic around the dining table.
This CLEARLY SHOWS that the WHOLE GOVERNING BODY is AMITTINGLY saying that THEY ARE NO DIFFERENT THAN ANYONE ELSE IN ANY CONGREGATION TO BE GOD'S SPOKESMAN. Jeffrey just SAID. "WE ARE FELLOW WORKERS WITH OUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS" AND" THAT THE SCRIPTURES CLEARLY SHOW THAT SOMEONE COULD ACT IN HARMONY WITH GOD'S SPIRIT IN GIVING COMFORT AND HELP IN THE CONGREGATION" HE CLEARLY KNOWS THAT THEY ARE NOT THE ONLY ONES BEING DIRECTED BY GOD AND IT WOULD BE PRESUMPTUOUS OF HIM TO CLAIM THAT THEY ARE THE ONLY SPOKESMEN.
ALL JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES KNOW THAT, THIS IS ABSOLUTELY NOT WHAT THE GB PUT OUT IN THEIR PUBLICATIONS AND LITERATURE..FOR DECADES! ITS ALWAYS BEEN THAT THE GB WAS THE SOLE CHANNEL BETWEEN GOD. AND ABSOLUTELY NO ONE ELSE HAS THAT PRIVILEGE. JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES ARE NOT EVEN TO QUESTION ANYTHING ONCE THEY ARE BAPTIZED IN REGARDS TO DOCTRINES, DECISIONS, SECRET POLICIES ECT. ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. EVEN IF THE MEMBERS KNOW THAT GB IS WRONG ACCORDING TO SCRIPTURES. THESE GOVERNING BODY MEMBERS ALONG WITH THEIR ELDER BODY MEMBERS ARE ALL DELIBERATELY KNOWINGLY TREATING THEIR MEMBERS LIKE A SHEEP WITHOUT A SHEPARD..ALWAYS PLAYING WITH WORDS AND INTERROGATING AND HARASSING INDIVIDUALS IN JUDICIAL MEETINGS AND FEAR MONGERING THEM ROUTINELY. ITS SHAMEFUL AND AN EMBARRASSMENT TO GOD ALMIGHTY. THIS IS A VERY DANGEROUS ORGANIZATION FULL OF VERY MISLEADING DOCTRINES. AND CONSTANTLY FLIP FLOPPING. THEY EXPECT FREE LABOR, YOUR CONTRIBUTIONS AND UNKNOWN PEDOPHILES AROUND YOUR COUNTRY CHILDREN. THEY ARE VERY SKILLED ON PRAYING ON PEOPLE WHO ARE GENERALLY ON BAD TIMES OR DESPERATE. NOT ONLY ARE THEY PROTECTING PEDOPHILES THEY THEMSELVES ARE RELIGIOUS PREDATORS. USING GOD'S WORD THE BIBLE TO GUILT PEOPLE AND TO MAKE THEM SLAVES FOR THEIR ORGANIZATION. PEOPLE ARE LEAVING THIS ORGANIZATION IN VERY VERY LARGE NUMBERS. SUICIDES ARE AT A RECORD HIGH IN THIS ORGANIZATION AND PEOPLE ARE SEVERELY DEPRESSED. A GREAT DEAL OF THEM HAVE LOST THEIR FAMILIES. THIS IS A HIGH MIND CONTROL GROUP AND A VERY DANGEROUS CULT. YOU LOOSE YOUR LONGTIME FRIENDS AND FAMILY IF YOU EVER WANT TO LEAVE. FOR ANY REASON. YOUR WHOLE SOCIAL NETWORK IS GONE AND EVERYONE TURNS THEIR BACKS ON YOU. AND THESE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN MADE TO BELIEVE THAT THIS IS LOVING AND FROM GOD. IF YOU ARE A JW. GET OUT OF THIS ORGANIZATION. DO NOT CONTINUE TO DONATE ANY MONEY OR TIME TO THESE PEOPLE WHO ARE NON CHARITABLE THEMSELVES. THEY HAVE NEVER IN THE HISTORY OF THIS RELIGION HAVE EVER GAVE MONEY FROM THE WATCHTOWER TRACT SOCIETY TO ITS MEMBERS TO HELP THEM IN TROUBLED TIMES. THEY DO NOT CARE. ALL THEY WANT IS DEDICATION TO THEM AND YOUR MONEY AND FREE LABOR. ITS VERY SUGAR COATED TO APPEAR ONE WAY AND IT IS SOMETHING TOTALLY DIFFERENT ONCE YOU ARE IN. AND IT'S VERY HORRIFIC FOR THEM TO USE GOD'S WORD TO MANIPULATE PEOPLE. BECAUSE THEY KNOW THAT WE ARE ALL SINNERS AND THEY TRULY CAPITALIZE ON THAT. RESEARCH EVERYTHING THAT HAS BEEN MENTIONED ITS ALL OUT THERE AND DOCUMENTED. LISTEN TO THE STORIES OF EX MEMBERS. THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT ALL LYING. THESE ARE TRUE STORIES.
@Tammy G
I agree with you, but cool it with the capitals. 😁
Also if they had women on judicial committees they would never get anywhere with disfellowshipping women that they want disfellowshipped, this would make it where justice will prevail and the WT doesn't want that.
Christian women were not on the Governing Body in Jerusalem during the first century. We are told to follow the example set by Jesus and his apostles. If we deviate from that example we cannot be called Christian.
A mother or friend can certainly accompany a child or young person when meeting with elders.
@@dinahkruppa913 there is no governing body in the Bible
Please. Please
Do your homework
A governing body is a group that has authority to exercise governance over an organization.
Under the Christian congregation a group of men met in Jerusalem and made decisions which was sent out to the congregations.
Acts 15:6-21. The apostles and older men met to settle a matter.
Thank you, brother Jackson, for showing up in the Australian Royal Commission. Your testimony helped me wake up from the cult.
HaHaHaHaHaHaHa
Good one
This should be shown in every Kingdom Hall.There would be mass walk outs hearing these lies.
Point out 1 lie please
You can't play this at the kingdom hall silly Creator shut them down
Above comment. You are wrong it great to hear him stick to the truth
What happened to "boldly witnessing" to the superior authorities? He isn't doing that at all, and sidestepping the questions or plainly not answering them. When I was a witness, I figured if I went to court, I would defend the truth with all my might. Using the scriptures as my source documents. If you have the scriptures to back you up, why doesn't he boldly proclaim "the truth?" It's sickening and I can't finish this video.
My thoughts exactly. Thank you!
A slanderer goes about revealing confidential talk,
But the trustworthy person* keeps a confidence.- Proverbs 11:13
“There is . . . a time to be silent and a time to speak.”-Ecclesiastes 3:1, 7.
Fantastic job putting this together! May I use a few of these clips for a video I am making?
As a disassociated ex jw, i was seen smoking cigarettes, that's all I did wrong I have first hand experience of how they ruin your life and push the blame on you, they take away everything you hold dear, they leave you fend for yourself after controlling you, then you are treated like a disease by everyone you know, my mother was the only one who treated me like a human, she died 10 years ago at her funeral I was asked to be discreet, what a way to treat someone and they claim to be loving Christian's have a laugh
So the cigarettes are good for you huh?
@@daroweilburg7706 Ask Watchtower; they have invested in big tobacco.
@@daroweilburg7706wow that is exactly what the organization promotes. Robots to defend their decisions. Smoking is not good for anyone but neither is completely shunning someone and not allowing their family members to speak to them. The Bible is weaponized by Jehovah’s Witnesses to keep the sheep in line and nothing the organization tells its members to do, even if it means sacrificing family members, is too outrageous for them. They are told to have boundaries for everyone and everything except from within. Interesting
I'm glad this came to light. I'm only watching this to know what to say when I see them (jehovas witnesses) this week. They think they will convert me and I think I will convert them. The reason I know Jesus is the way the truth and life is because In the last words of the KJV Bible, New Testament, Revelations, last few words: basically, If anyone adds words to this book, they will be severely punished and Anyone who takes away any words will also be punished.
What more is there to say? Considering they always change things in the Bible.
He never answered the question regarding being inspired or the only mouthpiece. He skated around it with Ward salad, but he never answered it.
The September 1st 2017 Letter to all Elders clearly states that victims or those who know of an allegation of child sexual abuse, will be instructed by elders that they can freely, without reprimand, contact the authorities. The elders will still only contact the legal dept of the society.
Although there were still some important things that you could put in a summary of the comments, you've done an excellent job.
Regarding the role of women as judges.
Mr. G. Jackson says, "The role of judges in the congregation is on men. We shall never fall in that."
Mr. Peter McClellan ask; "Can you give me a reference for that?"
Why a member of the governing body forgets that God does not forbid women to be judges. In book Judges 4:4,5 is written; "Now DEBORAH, a prophetess, the WIFE of Lappidoth, was JUDGING Israel ..., and the sons of Israel would GO UP TO HER FOR JUDGMENT."
Is this is not "BIBLE PRECEDENT SAMPLE" for that ??!! also as one person testimony in book Deuteronomy 22:25-27 !!!!!!!
But Mr. G. Jackson said he will ask Jesus for answer once in the future. Shame on him !
NT says more about women being judges.
Deborah was an exception ....
@@pawelwalecki9363 JW interprets NT in such a way that members of the 144,000 class, made up of Women and Men, will be kings and priests along with Christ and judge people. So I don't see what the problem is. Why do GB and JW elders feel that only they have the privilege of participating in the “decision making aka judging” of their spiritual brothers and sisters in present time, and women in the future? :)
The existence of exceptions, such as Deborah, proves that God has nothing against women in the position of judge. Because, probably, he would not allow an exception to happen in "his organization". On the other hand, what if God “allows” JW men not to allow JW women access to management positions in a JW organization, but does not approves such conduct.
Furthermore, both OT and NT have an expiration date. After them always comes something new and different. Maybe, before God, NT fulfilled its purpose as well as OT, and JW followers didn’t recognize it?
But more importantly, if you are a loving Christian, surely you would want to make survivors as comfortable as possible? Many have said they got far kinder & empathetic treatment from police & other authorities. What an indictment on the JWs
@@juliechurley2716 Important thought. Thanks for the comment.
Why hide and dodge behind words? If you are so proud of the doctrine and policies that are "spirit directed" why cower behind double talk? Truth? I think not.
thats exactly what I thought. If you are the "guardians of doctrine" then why not STAND UP for your doctrines instead of weaseling around the questions to downright lying about them.
If these doctrines are from God then they would say "yes this is what we believe no matter what you or anyone thinks!"
guardians of dogshit more like it
This question may have been asked, but Do JWs lawyers go to college or do they get their degree online?
Online.
They arent likely JWs some and others likely came into JW as Lawyers..there was reach out by the WT about looking for professionals like lawyers..this way fees are low or pro bono.. things are bad for them.
What degree?
They get law degrees like anyone else. Some JW's become lawyers. It's a personal choice
Interesting, around the 23 min mark he says he wish he could ask Jesus himself what he meant. But I thought Jehovah and Jesus were communicating with you directly. Like, isn't that the whole reason you're the "faithful and discreet slave?"
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It is a pity that not all the questions are presented here. The part where Jackson states that only men can be judges and the judge cites Judges 4:4, where Devorah was the judge in Israel is missing. And overall, it's 2023 and we know well that no women have been allowed into the hearings and committees related with child abuse. Seven years later. Because no one truly cares about the feelings of the victims who, according to the rules, have to talk about what happened to them in the presence of the rapist. The main thing is to conceal such incidents in any way possible. So as not to tarnish the reputation of God's “pure” organization.
And of course at no point do they admit that they’re protecting the image of the organisation.
At 4:42 he asks the representative of the governing body if they change the scriptures from time to time oh, and he dares to answer yes. So they change the scriptures to their liking from time to time to their interpretation? Are you kidding me?
Rebecca YOU need to listen very carefully to his questions and the answer that is given, the SCRIPTURES ARE NEVER CHANGED ONLY THE (UNDERSTANDING) OF THE SCRIPTURES .
Thank you internet, after 46years as a jw I'm now conscientious objector to the GB, I've personally disfellowshiped the GB from my life,
That's the first step, the truth is out there.
I did the same last Thursday , Good job brother
Excellent video outlining key points of rhetoric testimony. I love how it’s not his field when the answer inconveniently makes them look like jerks 😂.
Wondering why his God Jehovah doesn't strike him dead for telling lies 🤥
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How can I get a video clips of this? Please help I don’t know how to do it
Any Screen recorder apps can do it for example..just record the part u like.
As an ex JW they are speaking out of both sides of their mouth. They 100% teaching something else lol. No practicing or believing JW is allowed to watch this.
It's a public court case. ANyone can watch it.
EX meaning disfellowshipped. you really are joke.
@@annakat3754Yes but it would be forbidden by the organisation. It would have to be in secret
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"We are Jehovah's presumptuous Witnesses"
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Above comment. You plain lie any witness can see this
"This is not my field." - I lost all respect for the entire Governing Body as soon as I heard Geoffrey Jackson say this.
@Jakota Justice - I'm the lair? That's rich. Hahaha! Can you please point to my lie?
Oh, so the 23,000 Jehovah's Witnesses database of pedophiles are actually FBI agents inside the organization. Good to know.
Your little racist remark was a fail. I'm not Mexican... "ese." Hahaha! Hahaha!
Why not
This is fun
I love making apostates roll it up
I will do anything I will pay you people to give me a 20,000 person list of pedophiles
11:40 in churches you don‘t know each other? Really? I‘ve got a lot of friends in my church.
That’s not coughing, it’s laughing 😂
Is he under oath?? They must have used a real Bible. Not his fake one. Maybe that's why he thinks it's ok to lie non stop
Yes i can name several. Are you a Jehovah's witness??
JohnBee for 1 he denies they claim to be the one true religion. Lie
JohnBee are you a Jehovah's witness??
JohnBee 6:15 he says no corporeal punishment 7:30 LIE
Dude he's not lieing what are u talking about I'm confused?
I can't for the life of me understand Jackson's bizarre hedging on corporal punishment. The jury is out on the effectiveness of corporal punishment, isn't it? Even a lot of psychiatrists are unsure if it's worthwhile or not, so why is Jackson acting as if he's afraid he's going to get in trouble for admitting the Governing Body don't condemn it?
"...if we were to give some direction that is not in harmony with God's word, all of Jehovah's witnesses worldwide who have the bible would notice that..." Really? What have those same witnesses been told?
"All who want to understand the Bible should appreciate that the greatly diversified *wisdom of God can become known only through Jehovah’s channel of communication* , the faithful and discrete slave." -- Watchtower, Oct 1, 1994, p8 So, no --- they won't notice since only the GB can understand scripture -- at least according to the GB.
“Unless we are in touch with this channel of communication that God is using (Governing Body), we will not progress along the road to life, no matter how much Bible reading we do.” -- Watchtower, Dec 1, 1981
Witnesses are told over and over to obey, even if the instructions of their leaders don't make sense. Jackson is saying something in front of the ARC that he would *NEVER* stand up and say at a convention or on JW Broadcasting.
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"it is not my field" = "I don't want to answer your question"🤐
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What reason would a CHILD have to make such an accusation or lie about something such as abuse again a CHILD.
Experts say children don’t lie about it. Usually they relate details a child would be innocently unaware of unless interfered with
This opened my eyes and left this cult ... this is the real truth but they lie about this to the members ... yet l mention this to them ... they say that this is a lie and that ppl are against them cos they are the chosen ones ..
You have to make them think about the Faithful and discreet slave fallacy. Then they listen.
@Jessica Watson - Welcome to freedom.
Freedom is being RUclips buds with efrain hahahahahahaha and watching his doubled posted toilet video
That was very funny
This gentleman obviously has emotional troubles playing with toilets everyone needs to hug him
@@bloodychanges8557 - And then you ask yourself why RUclips is deleting your accounts. LOL!
How much time do you have on your hands? You've opened 5 new accounts today? You really need help.
worse than a f'ing politician in his refusal to answer simple direct questions
Are we watching the same video?
@@bloodychanges8557 are you in a cult?
I am in a pair of shorts eating popcorn and was going to ask you the same thing
Are you a Cult ? The ex jw,s are a very small group with strange ideas are you a part of their cult gang
Which question did this old fella refuse to answer ?
Why didn’t he tell the poor guy that the g b Removed ex that part of the bible, it’s gone , they couldn’t take it , that scripture was hurting their doctrine, how many scriptures have been removed and or altered , I’d love to know but my peace here is Jehovah and Jesus know, they cannot hide from God
What scripture?
Is there a transcript of this summary testimony available somewhere to download ?
JWS CAN NOT CALL THEMSELVES CHRISTIANS. BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT BEING BAPTIZED IN TH E NAME OF THE FATHER , THE NAME OF THE SON AND THE NAME OF THE HOLY SPIRIT, ACCORDING TO MATHEW 24:14. INSTEAD IN THE BAPTISMAL TALK THEY ARE ASKED " DO YOU REPENT OF YOUR SINS " AND " DO YOU ACCEPT THE WATCHTOWER SOCIETY AS GODS ORGANIZATION ON EARTH". I WENT TO A SPANISH SPEAKING ASSEMBLY AT NATICK MA. WHERE THERE WERE 1500 IN ATTENDANCE AND THERE WAS NOT ONE CANDIDATE FOR BAPTISM. THE SPEAKER GAVE THE TALK ANYWAY. AFTERWARDS THERE WAS A HUGE SILENCE. THE ENTIRE ASSEMBLY WAS STUNNED. I GAVE MY WIFE THE 'I TOLD YOU SO' LOOK.
Practice what you preach The Bible says let YOUR Yes be YES and YOUR no, no .
on the discipline part. God I remember getting my ear pulled REALLY hard for falling asleep in the meetings or the belt when I got home becuase my brother and I playing with pencils in the hall.
You would expect a spiritual man to keep going back to Jehovah. "Jehovah says they can" "Jehovah says they should." "Jehovah says it's right." "Jehovah says it's wrong." "Jehovah leads us." Instead, he just keeps going back to what he thinks, saying it's not his responsibility, and the like...
if you cut the video how do you like, how can I/we understand something?
This made me weep. I sobbed and sobbed, nearly unable to stop, from what was said and from all of my personal experiences within this organization. Now I'm going to write a book about it. When we consider Deborah, Abigail, Hannah, Sarah, Esther. . . as opposed to today, where we women are treated like SHIT. TOTAL SHIT. This organization cannot have God's favor, anymore. And that realization is quite crushing.
It's not hard to see how the organisations members are two faced and hypocritical given that they listen to this slippery disembler.
Wasn't Deborah a Judge?
Yes, she was.
there were also prophetesses, female prophets.
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@@EfrainRiveraJunior I just looked up their online library. They have a list of all the judges and omitted Deborah and replaced her with Barak. It literally says in the bible that she judged Israel, whereas, Barak commanded an army. They just want to promote the narrative of women never being leaders in the bible when that’s not the case.
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Above comment. Language bad for ex jw. I see why you became ex
In almost every case, the tape is edited, cutting off valuable context added by Mr. Jackson that could explain further the rightfullness of their stand. Play the entire testimony without cutting out sections of testimony, thereby taking text out of context.
More of a mental punishment
Kids can have bruises visible in the KH and they have no real problem with it if you say it was punishment
Hi, great video and editing! I want to translate this video into dutch.Do you have by any chance still the project files so I can also translate the titles and comments?
Ga je hem doorsturen naar onze mede broeders en zusters ? 😁
Can you say BUSTED?????
Why can’t someone edit this video and remove the female jurist and highlight the prosecutor speaking . it would make the conversation and video so much more understandable than having the prosecutor in a very small corner of the video asking questions .
So if the elders determine which scriptures should be read literally and which ones metaphorically then surely that means all the in-congruent flavours of Christianity that focus on different parts of the Bible while discounting others are all based on relatively determined biblical interpretations. No wonder faith in religion produces conflicting beliefs and doctrines. Nothing is absolutely correct in the Bible or any of the various creeds.
It's obvious as with the Bible itself. Lets be honest, all the creeds are flawed man made contrivances.
What's the point of adhering to the Bible when it fails to discriminate between crimes and sins? Fails to prevent both, in fact often incites sins, crimes and immoral behaviour? Produces so much conflict and misery?
What's the point of Religion? If all the various Christian creeds all disagree with every other creed but there own after all of them are reading from the same instruction manual, The Bible?
Chaos and Confusion and, Sadly often violence, is what get when you place your life in faith over reason.
This is a smart lawyer, However he has a team behind him aiding him to craft question to lead to a conclusion to mis-interpretation and understanding of an organization.One should note that all institutions or organizations has rules and regulations and its up to people to obey them or not. if theirs no rules then their would not be no one to answer to.
Mr. Geoffrey Jackson has done is best to answer questions , however I see that he needed help to give a clear answer to some of the questions placed by the lawyer. It was clear that the lawyer was able to ask yes and no question, However you could not explain or give a reason for your answers by the defendant, while the lawyer was able to create situations to prove a point.
Lets be balance, if theirs a case that requires the law of the land to intervene we should allow it and if theirs a case that does not require the law of the land then its up to a group to make that decision.
When your chosen by god to be his mouthpiece you should always be ready to speak boldly and with confidence.
Comments are not free of bias
2Timothy 2:10 For this reason I go on enduring all things for the sake of the chosen ones, so that they too may obtain the salvation that is through Christ Jesus, along with everlasting glory
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What about judges 4:4 where Debra was made judge over Israel?
What a liar. We were stalked in Elmira, Ontario because we wanted to leave quietly. The elders of that hall sat outside our gate for six hours the one Saturday. They also harrassed everyone in the congregation asking they knew anything bad about us. They couldn't find any dirt on us and still disfellowshipped me in absentia meaning I didn't go to the kangaroo court where I wasn't allowed any witnesses or lawyer. They are an evil religion.
I’m being stalked just left 2023 ,still getting phone calls I just block them. Thanks for scripture judges 4:4 I was looking for that one ❤😊
@@Antlil2023 You wouldn't by chance be Alexis Antil, would you?
@@ronweiland5991 no😊
You must remember,they are groomed from birth..why would a mother do such a evil deed to her child , it's the perverse men .go and talk to a group of 4 or 5. You can actually feel the evil .. I've done it on 2 occasions to make sure.i wasn't kidding my self.
If they are all the governing body and approved by God shouldn't they all be in unison? Instead they excuse themselves by way of ignorance and passing the question to a different member of the "faithful and discreet slave"
Who is the father of lies??? Now I'm in a real doubt.
Satan!
Wow this is hard to watch, seeing him squirm in his seat and attempt to dodge the question in hopes of coming across politically correct…
Caring for his father? You meanto tell me this old man's dad is still alive. I'm sorry I do not believe him.
I'm so glad I woke up and left this organization and their nonsense
Tony Morris of the Governing Board,
At Bottleking bought a liquor horde
for Jehovah, our god,
does not find it odd,
to get sauced in the morn with the Lord.
Being accused and dragged before court is not in indication of guilt.
Jesus too was brought before Pilate and Herod.