I have been watching football a long time - Giants fan as well - the Giants are in purgatory because they trot out a pretty good backup QB- I dont want to rag on daniel but every week I watch other QBs get the ball down the field with anticipation and aggression. DJ is a great athlete but wont throw the ball until he "Sees" someone open. Count up how many passes DJ hit a receiver where he released the ball before the WR broke? If we had Baker Mayfield we would probably have won 4 or 5 games by now and most don't value Baker very highly.
Baker Mayfield? Was he winning in Cleveland? No, which is why he isn’t there anymore. And he was the first pick. Not to mention the Giants never had Evan’s as a WR. Damn near a decade straight of a 1000 yards.
There is no guarantee that the Giants would even get Cam Ward regardless of their record. They won’t tank. Not fair to the existing players on the team. And Evan…the Jets are right behind them with their “star” QB. At least the Giants fans know the QB is back up caliber.
This is the result of John Mara and Woody Johnson signing that oath to play at Met Life Stadium. They’ve been cursed since 2011. Giants two blip playoff appearances and bad structure. Jets horrible structure. The Giants are Jets light or Jets in Blue Uniforms. Both owners are bad.
My thoughts exactly!!! Every game at this point is a must lose... and thank God we have Daniel "can't score a TD if his life depended on it" Jones. What's wrong with the NYG media and fanbase???
And guess what the giants will once again like they always do ruin that chance by winning meaningless BS games end of year. This organization is a completely backwards!
@79boricuarage he ain't falling in our lap....almost like. We need to lose to ensure getting a top pick or something. The fact you even mention a FA QB is laughable. This isnt a holdover team who needs a year or two to transition. It's an awful team who has been bad for a very long time who needs a top flight ready to go QB int he draft to build around
If you are losing a bunch of close games it’s hard to know whether it’s the QB, coaching or GM. Are we developing talent? Seems like the players are getting worse. I think thats coaching.
If people really paid attention during the preseason, you could see this was a three-win team. Nabers was not going to fix the fundamental flaws with this team. It starts with ownership and works downward from there. Schoen's first two drafts were subpar and the roster is soft. 2024 looks good so far. And Daboll doesn't inspire confidence in anyone. He's best served as an OC. And of course the QB is not going to take you to the promised land. He's a good guy and you won't have to worry about that 3 AM phone call from the police. But the play has to be better on the field.
This is on the coach/play caller. Your job is to make it work with what you have. Brian Daboll has shown in his NFL coaching career that he cannot be a good OC. Within the four years he coached Josh Allen, only during the last two did he see success. And that was due to Ken Dorsey becoming the QB coach. The first two seasons Josh Allen was labeled as a potential bust. And every other QB he had a chance to coach ALL FAILED!!! The reason he will likely not be fired is because the whole fanbase wants DJ gone (rightfully so). Daboll will get his QB and likely ruin him too, setting us back even further. The only hope is that Schoen has another draft class like this year.
No!!! ITS A MUST LOSE!!! We need that number one pick! I DONT CARE IF WE WIN OR LOSE ANYMORE ESPECIALLY IF NEXT YEAR IS GOING TO BE THE SAME CRAP BECAUSE WE DECIDED TO WIN FOR NO DAM REASON
I mean we all wanna be positive Tommy but bro took it way to far 🤣 11 wins WTF are you on? Drug test his ass immediately 😂😂 thin line between delusional and a fan 😆
If you are losing a bunch of close games it’s hard to know whether it’s the QB, coaching or GM. Are we developing talent? Seems like the players are getting worse. I think thats coaching.
I have been watching football a long time - Giants fan as well - the Giants are in purgatory because they trot out a pretty good backup QB- I dont want to rag on daniel but every week I watch other QBs get the ball down the field with anticipation and aggression. DJ is a great athlete but wont throw the ball until he "Sees" someone open. Count up how many passes DJ hit a receiver where he released the ball before the WR broke? If we had Baker Mayfield we would probably have won 4 or 5 games by now and most don't value Baker very highly.
A QB won't fix us. Our issues go way beyond the QB position.
@jeffkubinak2155 That truth wounds us deeply.
Baker Mayfield? Was he winning in Cleveland? No, which is why he isn’t there anymore. And he was the first pick. Not to mention the Giants never had Evan’s as a WR. Damn near a decade straight of a 1000 yards.
There is no guarantee that the Giants would even get Cam Ward regardless of their record.
They won’t tank. Not fair to the existing players on the team.
And Evan…the Jets are right behind them with their “star” QB. At least the Giants fans know the QB is back up caliber.
This is the result of John Mara and Woody Johnson signing that oath to play at Met Life Stadium. They’ve been cursed since 2011. Giants two blip playoff appearances and bad structure. Jets horrible structure.
The Giants are Jets light or Jets in Blue Uniforms. Both owners are bad.
11 win team? Fire that man immediately.
11 wins and with Tommy Meatball as the QB1 ? He’s just looking for sound bites and attention.
Must win? It’s a must LOSE!!!! we need a draft pick
My thoughts exactly!!! Every game at this point is a must lose... and thank God we have Daniel "can't score a TD if his life depended on it" Jones. What's wrong with the NYG media and fanbase???
Exactly
Professional football players don't care that you want a high draft pick
Dumb as rocks fans. Coaches and players don't care about that BS
And guess what the giants will once again like they always do ruin that chance by winning meaningless BS games end of year. This organization is a completely backwards!
This trip IS A MUST LOSE! A loss here would solidify our draft position and allow us a good chance to get an elite QB to replace Daniel Jones!
What elite QB besides Cam ward is in this draft class?.hmmmmm and he ain't falling to our lap.. CB1, LB ,OT for depth. We can get a QB in FA goofy
@79boricuarage he ain't falling in our lap....almost like. We need to lose to ensure getting a top pick or something.
The fact you even mention a FA QB is laughable. This isnt a holdover team who needs a year or two to transition.
It's an awful team who has been bad for a very long time who needs a top flight ready to go QB int he draft to build around
If you are losing a bunch of close games it’s hard to know whether it’s the QB, coaching or GM. Are we developing talent? Seems like the players are getting worse. I think thats coaching.
What is the purpose of winning after you start a season 2 and 7?
The coach/gm don’t want to be fired
Because that’s what winners do. You don’t learn how to win by loosing. Winning isn’t a light switch. You don’t turn it off and on.
No the hell it isn’t, Giants need to tank. This is A MUST LOSE GAME
I want to listen to the calls I wish you’d stop cutting it out
Exactly... need good depth behind the starters. But the fans want to trade Azeez Ojulari
"It's hard to win in the NFL." Not if you play the Giants!!
If the Giants fire Daboll I’d love to have him as our head coach in Tennessee
The answer to why the giants stink is Daniel Jones is terrible end of story
giants will beat carolina of course , and giants will likely pick @ 5 -7 again , then no chance at cam ward or sanders ,, then what
The Giants can still trade up for Cam Ward is they win a few games.
PREPARE FOR A SUPER TANK BOWL!!!!! IN MUNICH GERMANY, BETWEEN THE GIANTS AND THE PANTHERS!!!!
If the Giants lose, WFAN will go crazy again.
If people really paid attention during the preseason, you could see this was a three-win team. Nabers was not going to fix the fundamental flaws with this team. It starts with ownership and works downward from there. Schoen's first two drafts were subpar and the roster is soft. 2024 looks good so far. And Daboll doesn't inspire confidence in anyone. He's best served as an OC. And of course the QB is not going to take you to the promised land. He's a good guy and you won't have to worry about that 3 AM phone call from the police. But the play has to be better on the field.
Giants vs. Panthers is more Toilet Bowl than Super Bowl🏈🚽
PREPARE FOR A SUPER TANK BOWL!!!!! IN MUNICH GERMANY, BETWEEN THE GIANTS AND THE PANTHERS!!!!
Win is the WORST thing we can do for the worst of the year..... it will lead to more of the same.
We lack discipline.. fundamentals... Ridiculous Pre Snap Penalties...
Coaching hasn't been what it should be...
This is on the coach/play caller. Your job is to make it work with what you have. Brian Daboll has shown in his NFL coaching career that he cannot be a good OC. Within the four years he coached Josh Allen, only during the last two did he see success. And that was due to Ken Dorsey becoming the QB coach. The first two seasons Josh Allen was labeled as a potential bust. And every other QB he had a chance to coach ALL FAILED!!!
The reason he will likely not be fired is because the whole fanbase wants DJ gone (rightfully so). Daboll will get his QB and likely ruin him too, setting us back even further. The only hope is that Schoen has another draft class like this year.
This podcast has the dumbest takes
This team was more talented 2 years ago we are going backwards
No!!! ITS A MUST LOSE!!! We need that number one pick! I DONT CARE IF WE WIN OR LOSE ANYMORE ESPECIALLY IF NEXT YEAR IS GOING TO BE THE SAME CRAP BECAUSE WE DECIDED TO WIN FOR NO DAM REASON
PREPARE FOR A SUPER TANK BOWL!!!!! IN MUNICH GERMANY, BETWEEN THE GIANTS AND THE PANTHERS!!!!
Your math is wrong
NO PLEASE LOSE?? Tired of winning enough games to miss out on the best quarterbacks
Hey tiki enough with the it’s hard to win in the the nfl BS. We know it’s hard which is why they get paid the way they do
NO mfer we need to LOSE
trump😎
No it's not a must win. What's the matter with you?
I mean we all wanna be positive Tommy but bro took it way to far 🤣 11 wins WTF are you on? Drug test his ass immediately 😂😂 thin line between delusional and a fan 😆
Why..? Our QB is garbage. It’s pretty simple.
What about Cutlets ? Y’all chose him, HYPED him up with his ridiculous agent. Keep him.
Play Devito and go with “The Sopranos” theme
Must LOSE
I agree with Shaun in that they didn’t do a good job having a good backup QB and a back up LT.
Please lose.
Sounds like every other crying liberal stick to sports that’s why we watch
The idea of “must” anything with such an obvious write off of a season just perplexes me…
NAH! We need to lose to the Panthers if Giants what any shot to drafting Cam Ward!
MUST LOSE TANK FOR CAM
75percent love it
If you are losing a bunch of close games it’s hard to know whether it’s the QB, coaching or GM. Are we developing talent? Seems like the players are getting worse. I think thats coaching.