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With a matte finish on the screen since you're gonna be using it outside a lot so it'll help with the sun glare etc and it will look even better when turned off
I've been using the JBL ones since they came out and at first I thought the screen was unnecessary. BUT I came around to enjoying it. There are a few scenarios that the screen enables: 1. You only get so many controls on the headphones themselves - ANC/Passthrough mode on the left, media on the right for example. But what about volume controls, ANC level, voide passthrough level, mic mute, etc.? I use these for phone and work Teams calls, and when I'm not physically at my phone/pc I can use the screen to mute/unmute myself or control how much I hear my own voice through the headphones based on my surroundings. Some of that could be solved by offering more configuration options for different scenarios, but then I'd have to remember all that and tap morse code against my head all the time. 2. Seeing how much % battery life is left in each headphone and the case without my phone nearby is super useful. Also, I use these all day, so they'll eventually run out of battery. If I'm on a call, I just plug one in for a quick charge, and when I see it's at 20% I'll swap, charge the other and I'm good for another few hours. 3. I'm a person who's not on their phone all day. Some days I look at it once a day and it's just _somewhere_ in my apartment. Having quick controls like ANC levels, volume level etc on the case itself is super useful. 4. I almost lost one of the earbuds one winter day on my bike when taking of my beanie, having the case in my pocket to quickly let it "ring" helped me find it in the snow much faster than it'd have taken me to take out my phone, open the app and use that feature there. 5. It's a decent smart watch substitute if you're not on your stupid phone all day: Receive select notifications, set a quick timer, use the "flashlight" feature, ...
You realize that if you have the awareness to carry the case, you can definitely do it all over the app. And everything you said would be much more easier to find and do over your phone screen than to fiddle around an 1/2inch screen.
Having a screen on the new airpods also makes it obvious which airpods are new and which ones aren't and a lot of Apple consumers would want to be seen with the newest version for the status symbol of it, not necessarily for the functionality.
we're talking about apple cult members, if it will show everyone that they're special for owning the newest iteration of airpods they'll walk around with it showing. @@xpeterson
@@xpetersonMy buddy has a rubber plastic protector for his air pods and it clips to his keys. If we're he were the carabiner type of guys youd seen it constantly, but hes not. Also he's literally the only person where I've visibily seen the case more than the actual airpods
The killer app for an earbuds case with a screen is connection control -- selecting which device you want to hear. A screen on the case could make it trivial. The Bluetooth user experience has always been rocky and that especially goes for using the same headphones on multiple devices. There's also using separate devices on the same speakers simultaneously (e.g. choose on screen to hear notifications from a second device) and the idea of selecting/forcing (or disabling!) a specific Bluetooth audio codec.
Absolutely, I have a pair of WF-1000XM4's and the amount of times my earbuds connect to my laptop in sleep mode in my bag and just refuse to play sound off the phone I'm currently using is crazy. You can choose the device that plays in the Sony app, but the app doesn't work most of the time. It would absolutely be a killer feature if I could choose which device is playing on the earbud case.
I recently found a way to work around this problem! When the playback on your phone gets paused because of your sleeping computer, press the play/pause button on your headphones ONCE. You won’t hear a difference, but that “pauses” the sleeping computer. Then start playing whatever you wanted to listen to using the in screen phone controls. DO NOT press play on your headphones to start it. Once that’s done, your phone “owns” the playback to your headphones and you can freely use the headphone playback controls again. Hope this can help you!
SO interestingly, I use the Apple AirPod Pro 2's with most of my devices being apple (MacBook, iPad, iPhone) and this was actually one of the features that blew my socks off. It essentially stays connected to all of them simultaneously whilst prioritizing the connection you are listening to, so when you hit play on a video or music on one of these devices, it seamlessly switches audio with zero hitches.
If it had storage and could basically be an Ipod, but with built in earbuds, that would be pretty interesting. Battery life on something that small would be tough though. Needing your phone to use this makes it a null product..
Actually that's a product I would buy but not from apple because of their pricing. I could take a walk and listen to whatever I want without having to carry my phone around
@@elu9780 you can control the audio quaility better. when android users use airpods there's no way to standardize what bluetooth version they have and the sound quality is diminished. if airpods was it's own player, they could make a custom wireless protocol specifically for just music playback and actually make use of the hi-fi and dolby audio on airpods at full uncompressed quality. they'd also save money not having to put that hypothetical new wireless chip into the iphones. and also make it backwards compatible with the old iphones.
to me, if they put in Storage of 64-128gb that you download (music, podcasts, audiobooks, etc) to it beforehand. this could be the next iteration of iPods. They have so much possibility to play around its crazy.
Thing is if you have an Apple Watch you can do that already at least for music audiobooks etc and then leave behind the case and run or go out with nothing in your pockets just the watch and buds. Then begs question ok but can watch video but do I wanna watch a video on a screen that small anyways 😅
LTE celular, esim, fitness tracking, with an actual speaker like a homepod but like PocketPod, people have celular apple watch already so why not one more thing (pun intended)
Loved the AHA moment there! Absolutely makes sense and i agree 100%. The only use case i can see the need for a screen on a case is when using the headphones with other devices than a phone
Only functionality that I can think of is the easy access to EQ, deleting paired Bluetooth devices, switching modes from ANC and transparency, and the Live Listen and background sounds
If they made an iPod successor in the form of an airpods case, and gave this internal memory and allowed it to work standalone from an iPhone, this could be a really interesting product.
So an Apple Watch and AirPods but merged. The Apple Watch already exists for that but I guess that is an extra level of focus since the Apple Watch still has a lot of digital flexibility in terms of smartwatches.
IMO it might be a way to try to sell more airpods to non iphone users since hypothetically this would give you access to find my, noise cancellation, pass-through, and all the other features that previously were unusable without an iphone. it might be able to suck more people into the ecosystem that way
Nobody understanded how even the M1 was possible to make, evety competitor said it's impossible.. and just because they had no clue how that can be possible, they needed 4 years just to copy the existing technology (at least if the Snapdragon X Elite finally release and users can actually own a device with that soon..) So because you don't understand something, it doesn't mean it's unusable, or not a great idea, let them show how they want to use it, and judge them after you know that..
On a more serious note, it would be useful for non iphone devices, so i can see accurate details for the battery charge on the case and each pod, and things like bluetooth pairing.
Yeah lol that's the only main purpose I could really see for this. Non apple users could now buy AirPods with more confidence because they don't have to find an iPhone nearby to customize the settings or view other details.
That's actually a legit use case. I bought my first pair of AirPods without having an iPhone and I couldn't change the settings on it. There is a real market for this use case, albeit a small one
These are for the post-phone era. When they're selling AR glasses that look like regular glasses, your headphones case will be the only screen you need to carry.
it would look cooler in black so the screen blends in with the finish of the case. I reckon it would be interesting if you could get more functionality out of it, perhaps connecting it to another device to use as a small remote
Honestly this is genius. If it allows you to control your music app properly, change tracks, even search… then yes this is perfect. Really great idea. If it’s a half measure and you still have to pull your phone out then maybe not so great.
It's great to have a screen. If you take your phone to change the music you can get distracted with so many things. It's easier and quicker to use the little screen that only does this fell things. It's a great idea.
What makes the JBL one is so great is that you don't need to downlad a seperate app or remember confusing tap and hold commands on the buds to change modes since it's all on the case. Maybe apple is trying to get the features easier to control for android users. Personally I use my airpods pro 2 with iphone and windows and it's a bit annoying to change the noise cancelation modes without 3rd party apps on windows like magicpods.
i just hold the stem on the buds and it cycles the NC mode regardless what device I connect to, i feel like press and hold till it makes a noise is pretty intuitive also yeah apple doesn't give a fk about people who don't have every single apple product possible
I think the biggest use case would be for multiple device use especially in the Apple Eco system. Keep all your media controls in one place with one interface regardless of the device it's connected to
5:32 amazing reference. For anyone unaware, when Blizzard devs announced a mobile only Diablo game, they responded to criticism with: "do you not have phones?"
The things that could enable having a screen to the airpods case is huge for non iPhone users, due to the lack of support for android compatibility, you have acces to lots of settings right on the case without having to buy an iPhone. And it could apply to other brands that make you install therir app just so you can get acces to more settings, by having it directly on the case itself you can save the need to install a app every time you want to change something that's not out of the box for you.
seeing battery life on the outside of the case would be appealing. i wouldn't want a whole screen like this - i would be satisfied with a series of LED lights where 4 lights indicates ~80%, 5 lights indicates 100%, etc... - but i can understand them deciding that it'd be unclear for people whether the airpods have 80% charge or the case, and in that case rather than making 3 rows of LEDs maybe it'd be better to just take the plunge and put a whole screen on the device. i'm not terribly excited about it, but that's mostly because the usefulness of such a thing can only manifest based on what apple actually does with it, in the same way that the touchbar on the macbook pro was a lot of potential utterly squandered because apple didn't make anything of it. they just hoped that developers would show up, or something. if apple just turns the screen into a "now playing" display, i imagine a lot of people would like to keep their airpod pro case on their desk while they're working and either turn off their iPhone screens or turn the screens away from them while they're working. i certainly could see myself doing that. my relationship with my phone is characterized by it producing distractions that derail me. apple can implement all the focus modes and whatnot that they want, but a tiny little device that physically can't invite me in to lose an hour or two is always going to be better at managing my distractions and whatnot
I would love to see just simple 1 row e-Ink display showing only batery levels of buds and the case. No more funcionality. It would sip power as it would only need to refresh once every few minutes. One can dream.
airpods pro 2 always connected to all your paired apple devices and always show battery status at all times even when not in use. Like a battery widget on mac or iphone etc. So it is really pointless.
@@1994rastaboy but what if I don’t want to pull my phone out of my pocket/purse/backpack? Like just pull airpods out look at what’s playing, see battery levels, see what volume it’s set at before you click to play? I do that a lot where I just put the airpods in and click play and sometimes it’s my music sometimes it’s whatever other media that was playing and then I have to pull my phone out, unlock, choose the correct media…😅 so much work Edit: spellcheck :)
This is the first time I'm seeing Dave having earlier access than Marquez, but hey, who knows, MKBHD might be using that for about a couple of months now.
@@CatPerson3having early access to unofficial 3rd party products and mockups is meaningless lmao literally anyone can make these and send it to a P.o. box
@@hunterhawkins8754 yeah, but the ones that a creator chooses makes for an interesting discussion on the possibilities of where tech might move forward just like Dave did in this video. I'm not saying all mock-ups are good, a lot of them are bad, and I'm sure Dave and other creators would agree on that because for sure they wouldn't feature the bad ones, but the interesting ones get featured because it makes for a compelling discussion.
Tbh I love to change my equaliser from song to song especially if it's custom, I do it with my sony headphones all the time and the app is extremely slow and it's annoying to open it again and again, go to the 'sound' tab, scroll down to eq, expand the eq so I can actually select the custom ones I've made. Also my phone is very large and I don't usually want to take it out for small settings I could do in a second.
The original airpods were terrible on non iphone devices because they didn't have the necessary control software. These airpods with a screen can work with any device with no need to download a special app to get all the functions. That's pretty cool really.
You think this device will not be nicely put inside Apple ecosystem wall? Probably has firmware updates locked behind owning another Apple device (if that sounds familiar?)
@@Misterdavidc but theres no way apple was considering this when they made the screen right? making its devices usable on other companies' products is not an apple thing to do
I'd love to see an earphone case with physical pause, skip and volume controls as long as they're well done. You'd get all the benefit of the control without all the downsides of a screen. It'd be nice just to have it in your pocket or on your desk and always have those controls available.
Makes sense if you want quickly accessing the controls of the AirPods like ANC, equaliser, finding the earbuds will be easy. Compared to using a Phone with an app/settings to make changes. Or when excessing/running if you do not have a apple watch, they can use the case to simply change tracks. Also, most importantly another screen to PUT ADS for the company.
The screen makes sense to me. Imagine you pull out your headphones to put them on and select a playlist or podcast with the case that's alredy in your hand. Rather than pulling out the case putting in headphones putting away the case then pulling out phone unlocking it navigating to Spotify and then selecting a song. Doing it with the case makes a lot of sense assuming you are not alredy wearing the headphones.
I hear you. But you still Probs have to turn the case screen on, click the app, navigate on a tiny screen. Like you put ur earphones on once and they stay in. This would maybe save 1 second the first time you get them out right? Like where are you putting them in? Is it at home, the bus? Feel like phone is stillore convenient. Phones unlock so quick w fingerprint and face unlock.
Usually I'm walking around the house listening on airpods while my phone is on a desk somewhere. A small remote would be kinda nice to have with me (in case you don't own an apple watch)
I don't really like dealing with wireless earbuds/headphones, but if I did I probably *would* appreciate the screen. It gives you a way to ignore your phone for awhile and not get sucked back in by notifications or muscle memory to check apps etc... A lot of people want more ways to "disconnect" and if the AirPods screen did not support notifications and stuff, it would help provide that. It gives you a simple interface to listen to audio, control transparency mode etc... and nothing else. It also can be more intuitive so you don't have to know control gestures. Seems like it'd be a more friendly interface. I can see there being clips/straps for it too for working out so you can set your phone down and use the case as your main interface while exercising, etc...
I think it's for the same reason that AirPods Pro got USB-C before the iPhones because Apple knows there are android users who loves AirPods and they made it easier to use them outside of their ecosystem. Having a screen gives more control to non iPhone users which is great.
@@ffeliziani Probably to alleviate the DOJ vs Apple case where they were called monopolistic for locking their accessories on the iPhone only. Or I assume they would also try to persuade market which aren't Iphone heavy like China and Asia to buy the airpod.
I think it is most likely to be the opposite. To make it work there has to be code that speaks with android and making the screen apple only seems to be the perfect way to make a tall walled garden between apple and android users. "Imagine the functionality you're losing by sticking to android, maybe you should switch to IOS on your next upgrade to get the full experience"
@@bjay8295 They were getting sued for accused of being monopolistic right now, I think making a bigger wall will give the DOJ a field day against Apple.
I can see a lot of people liking this. If you're out running or you're spending time with a hobby and you want to change your music but you don't want to look at your phone and be distracted by stuff happening on it instead of what you're actually doing having controls on your case gives you that ability.
I mean, if my phone is in my backpack or I’m using it as a screen, having the case as a controller seems like a useful feature… it’s like an Ipod shuffle upgraded to an ipod touch
I have the JBL Tour Pro 2 and I can say: I wasn't expecting that I need that kind of case in my headphones. It's very useful when I need to rapidly change some settings in my headphones that before I would need to take my phone and search for JBL app. It's hard to explain, but this thing is actually very useful in many scenarios. Also, the case can be used when connected to any device, be it an iPhone, Android or Windows, so you don't need to install any third party app (the JBL app isn't available for Windows, so you can manage everything within the case).
I'm guessing it could possibly be an updated version of an iPod. Imagine they put some storage in there and you could access music, apps and stuff like the watch but it becomes completely independent from your phone. It's possible.
I can get one good idea as to why it’s beneficial to have a screen on the case because I have the JBL‘s with the screen on the case… as a truck driver, it is more visually distracting to pull out a phone look at it and try to skip songs or play around with the settings when I’m listening to music, but with the case itself, I’ve sort of memorize through muscle memory on the process of skipping, putting the volume up and down although a phone, you can easily click a button and that’s easier or playing around with the equalizer. Some of those things have already become muscle memory for me with such a smaller device that I can just fiddle around with in my pocket versus having a larger screen to try to do the same thing and then miss clicking things which forces me to just take the phone out overall and look at it, which is a driving hazard so for me, this would actually make sense and it’s not an ideal situation for everyone
The benefit of the screen is that you can configure the headphones without any 3rd party app or OS integration. You don't need a companion app that will become unsupported after a few years and you don't lose features if you are using the buds with non-apple device. That's honestly a huge game changer to me, like a paradigm shift. Maybe the headphones are not the best example of that, but I really like this approach for electronic accessories. Man, in appliances some brands are forfeiting this ability to configure on device, exchanging it for companion apps. I have a washing machine that has programs that are only available via an app, but that's for other reasons I assume. Forced gathering of the user data via the app and/or planned obsolesence. For apple it makes sense to make a statement that airpods are now fully vendor independent to make it seem like apple loves vendor interoperability. Perhaps to make some regulators happy...
all of the controls shown in the video already work with the airpods pro 2 on any platform: changing noise cancellation, play pause skip. This doesn't solve any of the real issues without an iPhone, such as not being able to upgrade the firmware, customize squeeze actions, make the ringer on the airpods silent, turn off find my...
@@skylegendgamingmaybe the hook would be that they want to market it to older, less hardcore users who have money but are turned off by having to remember all the touch controls.
Remeber folks, whenever a tech guy says "that is/would be such an Apple thing to do", just replace Apple with evil and you get what they really mean there.
@@joefilter2923 yeah (*I'm a foreign consumer insofar as I don't live in the US), so what? I've always thought of those people who think Microsoft and Google are "more evil" than Apple as dumb. Obviously every corporation is trying to suck as much money as possible out of you, Apple is just that much more blatant about it. What I don't understand is how you derived that I'm a fanboy from that information? If anything, you could've/should've said that I'm a hater (of Apple), and that's just because (as I said before), they make it so blatant and easy to hate them lol.
I agree with you and I would add that if the screen breaks you have to get it fixed at a cost. However I could protect my phone by not pulling it out to change a setting. It could be a remote screen for your notification. Going back to your point though it is away of making more money when you drop it, lose it or it just stops working. $299 for the case and $89 for the apple care.
There are multiple knockoff units like these in Asia with that exact same touchscreen user interface. And also JBL has the Tour Pro 2 - which has the exact same touchscreen and case and look with a different earbud design.
I wonder if Apple is attempting to create space for a product that could (in the future) resemble what the Rabbit R1 is supposed to be. Something that relies on the internet connectivity of a phone to facilitate phone tasks through voice commands and AI and is able to display text information on a small screen.
Thanks Dave! I think the Airpods case would rest on my table instead of the phone, if it could control my music. A lot of us have consciously started cutting down screen time and this seems the perfect device to not open the phone to change a song and realise 2 hours down the doom scroll line that you were here for something else
If this comes out with the ability to play synced playlists on spotify im getting it no matter the price. That would be exactly what ive been looking for when working out
I mean, as a person who uses my buds (soundpeats) with a laptop, its kind of annoying to manage with no settings whatsoever. But I think you hit the nail on the head with the actual reason Apple would do this.
Most buds AND laptops have an inbuild control buttons for music functions. So what exactly does this screen give you? Especially that all options beside the most basic ones(that you already can use directly from buds/laptop keyboard) demand use of small very small screen with a lot of scrolling - using big screen on laptop would be so much faster, just as its the case with smartwatches beyond basic functions, where you could use the app on the watch, but actually end up opening it on your smartphone, because you see more info and can do things faster.
Use cases: 1. charging and battery status 2. scrub and skip through songs and playlists 3. switch songs and playlists without a phone (ex. no phones in a classroom, still can play music)
I think you missed it: AI. Imagine having a good version of Siri on this thing. This can be Apple's answer to 01 Light or Rabbit R1. You would already get this device because you need earphones, but since this device already have this extra functionality you'd probably give it a try and if it's good you won't think of buying the 01 Light.
I’m with you on this. I love me some headphones and have owned headphones from Apple, Jabra, Sony, Soundcore, Sennheiser, JBL, and even Jlabs. I still have a few of those pairs and use them but I rock second gen AirPod Pros as my daily drivers because they’re solid and I’m firmly in the Apple ecosystem. I have an iPhone and an Apple Watch and see no need for a touchscreen on my AirPods case. With that said, I’ll still buy them and show off the screen to my friends as a cool feature but I’ll rarely, if ever, personally use that touchscreen.
I could see this being more useful as controlling noise cancellation and many other features requires diving deep into settings menus. It would be much easier to have direct access to Airpod controls on it's own device.
I have JBL tour pro 2's, a very similar concept. I like the screen. Half the features I don't really like, and seeking time in songs isn't an option, but I love them.
You're pulling out the buds and use case to start the music, change equalizer etc. Without wonky tapping of the buds, pulling out the phone or using a watch. I think it's brilliant.
I think this would be really great for people working out who don’t want to be distracted by their phone. Or even people who work while listening to music. Only examples I can think of
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There is NO way that Apple would only upcharge the AirPods with the screen by only 30 dollars, that is an 80$ increase at the very least
I want $1500 Airpods Max with a screen on each side.
Comes with 2GB internal storage, because reasons. Upgrade to 4GB storage costs $100 USD
It's running its own version of iOS, supports Touch ID to activate the buds.
15 generations later and we will end up with the iPod again…
@@user-gn1cl9ix7phow about a screen in front instead, and charge $3500
Your april fools joke is a bit late David
It’s not?
Seriously Dave, did you get got?
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5:31"Don't you have phones?*
@@oozly9291Wut? April fools is well known to only occur on the 1st… 😂
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Tim: "write that down, write that down"
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he already wrote it
Making them all black with the screen completely invisible when off would look so much better
With a matte finish on the screen since you're gonna be using it outside a lot so it'll help with the sun glare etc and it will look even better when turned off
When he said, "they can sell one with a notch in the screen" I lost it
Same😭
@@nkatekomandlazi3895 lmao
emoji got me dead💀
someone should put doom on it
they get rid of the notch on the iPhone by moving all faceid functionality to the airpods? i could definitely see that.
when are we getting dave3d?
we gonna get dave3d before GTA6...
Never
i like the Dave2D years ago
Before 4d comes
with his new hairdo, he's now DaveBoyBand.
I've been using the JBL ones since they came out and at first I thought the screen was unnecessary.
BUT I came around to enjoying it. There are a few scenarios that the screen enables:
1. You only get so many controls on the headphones themselves - ANC/Passthrough mode on the left, media on the right for example.
But what about volume controls, ANC level, voide passthrough level, mic mute, etc.?
I use these for phone and work Teams calls, and when I'm not physically at my phone/pc I can use the screen to mute/unmute myself or control how much I hear my own voice through the headphones based on my surroundings.
Some of that could be solved by offering more configuration options for different scenarios, but then I'd have to remember all that and tap morse code against my head all the time.
2. Seeing how much % battery life is left in each headphone and the case without my phone nearby is super useful.
Also, I use these all day, so they'll eventually run out of battery. If I'm on a call, I just plug one in for a quick charge, and when I see it's at 20% I'll swap, charge the other and I'm good for another few hours.
3. I'm a person who's not on their phone all day. Some days I look at it once a day and it's just _somewhere_ in my apartment. Having quick controls like ANC levels, volume level etc on the case itself is super useful.
4. I almost lost one of the earbuds one winter day on my bike when taking of my beanie, having the case in my pocket to quickly let it "ring" helped me find it in the snow much faster than it'd have taken me to take out my phone, open the app and use that feature there.
5. It's a decent smart watch substitute if you're not on your stupid phone all day: Receive select notifications, set a quick timer, use the "flashlight" feature, ...
the only thing though is that the airpods already have the functionality of those already, you can do those things on the airpods themself
you are not on your stupid phone, you are on your stupid earbuds case.
You realize that if you have the awareness to carry the case, you can definitely do it all over the app. And everything you said would be much more easier to find and do over your phone screen than to fiddle around an 1/2inch screen.
the moment when you started unravelling the whole plan at 7:00 ish, was hilarious it was like revealing apples matrix of master plans
Companies could use e-ink display here(instead of an led or lcd ones). It would be a good utilization of the tech.
Was thinking the same
But they will never go with it due to their obsession with ux and shit
Depends if they're going to have an equalizer with visible sound output levels in real time
There's only one company that has the rights to manufacture e-ink displays. As we all know, Apple doesn't like to pay licensing fees for anything.
add a storage space on the ear buds and you can bring just the buds for workout and jogging without your phone
Having a screen on the new airpods also makes it obvious which airpods are new and which ones aren't and a lot of Apple consumers would want to be seen with the newest version for the status symbol of it, not necessarily for the functionality.
I get that argument for the buds, but are people going to be walking around with the case in hand, screen facing out?
@@xpetersonscreen on the buds
we're talking about apple cult members, if it will show everyone that they're special for owning the newest iteration of airpods they'll walk around with it showing. @@xpeterson
* low iq status
@@xpetersonMy buddy has a rubber plastic protector for his air pods and it clips to his keys. If we're he were the carabiner type of guys youd seen it constantly, but hes not. Also he's literally the only person where I've visibily seen the case more than the actual airpods
The killer app for an earbuds case with a screen is connection control -- selecting which device you want to hear. A screen on the case could make it trivial. The Bluetooth user experience has always been rocky and that especially goes for using the same headphones on multiple devices. There's also using separate devices on the same speakers simultaneously (e.g. choose on screen to hear notifications from a second device) and the idea of selecting/forcing (or disabling!) a specific Bluetooth audio codec.
Absolutely, I have a pair of WF-1000XM4's and the amount of times my earbuds connect to my laptop in sleep mode in my bag and just refuse to play sound off the phone I'm currently using is crazy. You can choose the device that plays in the Sony app, but the app doesn't work most of the time. It would absolutely be a killer feature if I could choose which device is playing on the earbud case.
I recently found a way to work around this problem! When the playback on your phone gets paused because of your sleeping computer, press the play/pause button on your headphones ONCE. You won’t hear a difference, but that “pauses” the sleeping computer. Then start playing whatever you wanted to listen to using the in screen phone controls. DO NOT press play on your headphones to start it. Once that’s done, your phone “owns” the playback to your headphones and you can freely use the headphone playback controls again. Hope this can help you!
@@EthanMarkWoodruffMy message above was in reply to your message.
SO interestingly, I use the Apple AirPod Pro 2's with most of my devices being apple (MacBook, iPad, iPhone) and this was actually one of the features that blew my socks off. It essentially stays connected to all of them simultaneously whilst prioritizing the connection you are listening to, so when you hit play on a video or music on one of these devices, it seamlessly switches audio with zero hitches.
So it's like an mp3.
If it had storage and could basically be an Ipod, but with built in earbuds, that would be pretty interesting. Battery life on something that small would be tough though. Needing your phone to use this makes it a null product..
your idea makes sense. it would be like an apple watch for people without an apple watch but want a portable music player
What's the point of a separate audio player when you can just have it on a smartphone?
Actually that's a product I would buy but not from apple because of their pricing. I could take a walk and listen to whatever I want without having to carry my phone around
@@elu9780 you can control the audio quaility better. when android users use airpods there's no way to standardize what bluetooth version they have and the sound quality is diminished. if airpods was it's own player, they could make a custom wireless protocol specifically for just music playback and actually make use of the hi-fi and dolby audio on airpods at full uncompressed quality. they'd also save money not having to put that hypothetical new wireless chip into the iphones. and also make it backwards compatible with the old iphones.
Yeah, would be ideal for running if it had downloadable music storage. Apple probably wouldn't do that as it would eat into watch sales tho.
to me, if they put in Storage of 64-128gb that you download (music, podcasts, audiobooks, etc) to it beforehand. this could be the next iteration of iPods. They have so much possibility to play around its crazy.
Thing is if you have an Apple Watch you can do that already at least for music audiobooks etc and then leave behind the case and run or go out with nothing in your pockets just the watch and buds. Then begs question ok but can watch video but do I wanna watch a video on a screen that small anyways 😅
If only there’s a device that can do all of those 🤔
Only use case
LTE celular, esim, fitness tracking, with an actual speaker like a homepod but like PocketPod, people have celular apple watch already so why not one more thing (pun intended)
It could just be a cache even of just music you have listened to. Just some way for the case to send music when your phone cant.
Loved the AHA moment there! Absolutely makes sense and i agree 100%. The only use case i can see the need for a screen on a case is when using the headphones with other devices than a phone
that was scripted...
Only functionality that I can think of is the easy access to EQ, deleting paired Bluetooth devices, switching modes from ANC and transparency, and the Live Listen and background sounds
"Do these people not have phones". I can't hold my laughter
I had to pause and come down to the comments after that one lol
accidental Diablo immortal moment😂
“Buy your mom an iPhone.”
- Tim Cook
Soon, you can't be caught dead being the peasant without a screened case.
Bingo
If you’re a high schooler, maybe. Any older than that, and it’s sad to even care about shit like that
@@bawbsmith sheep has the intelligence of a high schooler at best
I've given up entirely on getting pussy at this point so I just live the green bubble life
@@bawbsmithbasically apple users
If they made an iPod successor in the form of an airpods case, and gave this internal memory and allowed it to work standalone from an iPhone, this could be a really interesting product.
Dave’s always genuine on camera.. love that! Great job Dave
Would be cool if it was like a modernized iPod Classic with built in AirPods. For like digital detox and uninterrupted music.
That would be sick!!
yesss the digital detox our whole generation desperately needs
iPod Air would be nice. :P
I was thinking the same! I reckon this is what apple is going for eventually, and what Dave has is just a prototype
So an Apple Watch and AirPods but merged. The Apple Watch already exists for that but I guess that is an extra level of focus since the Apple Watch still has a lot of digital flexibility in terms of smartwatches.
This seems really pointless.
Did you not see “Her” with Joaquin Phoenix? AI don’t need a screen.
Yea, it has rounded corners
IMO it might be a way to try to sell more airpods to non iphone users since hypothetically this would give you access to find my, noise cancellation, pass-through, and all the other features that previously were unusable without an iphone.
it might be able to suck more people into the ecosystem that way
Nobody understanded how even the M1 was possible to make, evety competitor said it's impossible.. and just because they had no clue how that can be possible, they needed 4 years just to copy the existing technology (at least if the Snapdragon X Elite finally release and users can actually own a device with that soon..)
So because you don't understand something, it doesn't mean it's unusable, or not a great idea, let them show how they want to use it, and judge them after you know that..
Because it's not real
I love seeing your brain turn cogs in real time as you go along in the video. Such a content creator thing to do lol
This feels like full-circle back to the iPod and I love it
On a more serious note, it would be useful for non iphone devices, so i can see accurate details for the battery charge on the case and each pod, and things like bluetooth pairing.
With the sea of options available, why would you get AirPods if you don't have an apple product? This whole thing just seems like digital waste
Yeah lol that's the only main purpose I could really see for this. Non apple users could now buy AirPods with more confidence because they don't have to find an iPhone nearby to customize the settings or view other details.
@@Azer1125 Guess this is Apple's way of giving you one more reason to do that
That's actually a legit use case. I bought my first pair of AirPods without having an iPhone and I couldn't change the settings on it. There is a real market for this use case, albeit a small one
These are for the post-phone era. When they're selling AR glasses that look like regular glasses, your headphones case will be the only screen you need to carry.
I think you hit the nail on the head for why these are showing up now
If you won't need a phone with a screen then you won't need an Airpod with a screen. You'd just use the ar screen.
it would look cooler in black so the screen blends in with the finish of the case.
I reckon it would be interesting if you could get more functionality out of it, perhaps connecting it to another device to use as a small remote
We will get Dave 3D when holograms exist because for now 2D is how we consume his content via 2D video
I've had a set of earbuds with a screen for a few months. It works really well for swapping ANC, playlist, and EQ. Battery life is still great.
I think your chain of thoughts on this is just spot on!! I totally agree! A new tree of upgrades to the product! Brilliant!
Bro was having a main character moment
Honestly this is genius. If it allows you to control your music app properly, change tracks, even search… then yes this is perfect. Really great idea. If it’s a half measure and you still have to pull your phone out then maybe not so great.
"In this CASE"
I see what you did there.. I think...
:)
In CASE you didn’t notice…
@@kimballchoo7657 😅
Just LOVE watching @Dave2D have an epiphany on camera… priceless!
It could be Apple. Apple know their users. A lot of them will buy the new device only because it looks different as the last generation.😂
It's great to have a screen. If you take your phone to change the music you can get distracted with so many things. It's easier and quicker to use the little screen that only does this fell things. It's a great idea.
What makes the JBL one is so great is that you don't need to downlad a seperate app or remember confusing tap and hold commands on the buds to change modes since it's all on the case. Maybe apple is trying to get the features easier to control for android users.
Personally I use my airpods pro 2 with iphone and windows and it's a bit annoying to change the noise cancelation modes without 3rd party apps on windows like magicpods.
Yeah, I have the samsung equivalent, and the touch controls are too finicky and obtuse for me to remember, so I just use the phone.
> Maybe apple is trying to get the features easier to control for android users.
Hahahaha
@@kalleguld airpods make SOOOO much money. literally everyone buys them. they're platform agnostic at this point.
i just hold the stem on the buds and it cycles the NC mode regardless what device I connect to, i feel like press and hold till it makes a noise is pretty intuitive
also yeah apple doesn't give a fk about people who don't have every single apple product possible
What's so confusing about holding a button to change modes? I use my air pods pro with an android phone and no seperate app needed.
I think the biggest use case would be for multiple device use especially in the Apple Eco system. Keep all your media controls in one place with one interface regardless of the device it's connected to
right, that makes so much sense !
that makes a lot of sense!!
5:32 amazing reference. For anyone unaware, when Blizzard devs announced a mobile only Diablo game, they responded to criticism with: "do you not have phones?"
The things that could enable having a screen to the airpods case is huge for non iPhone users, due to the lack of support for android compatibility, you have acces to lots of settings right on the case without having to buy an iPhone. And it could apply to other brands that make you install therir app just so you can get acces to more settings, by having it directly on the case itself you can save the need to install a app every time you want to change something that's not out of the box for you.
seeing battery life on the outside of the case would be appealing. i wouldn't want a whole screen like this - i would be satisfied with a series of LED lights where 4 lights indicates ~80%, 5 lights indicates 100%, etc... - but i can understand them deciding that it'd be unclear for people whether the airpods have 80% charge or the case, and in that case rather than making 3 rows of LEDs maybe it'd be better to just take the plunge and put a whole screen on the device.
i'm not terribly excited about it, but that's mostly because the usefulness of such a thing can only manifest based on what apple actually does with it, in the same way that the touchbar on the macbook pro was a lot of potential utterly squandered because apple didn't make anything of it. they just hoped that developers would show up, or something.
if apple just turns the screen into a "now playing" display, i imagine a lot of people would like to keep their airpod pro case on their desk while they're working and either turn off their iPhone screens or turn the screens away from them while they're working. i certainly could see myself doing that. my relationship with my phone is characterized by it producing distractions that derail me. apple can implement all the focus modes and whatnot that they want, but a tiny little device that physically can't invite me in to lose an hour or two is always going to be better at managing my distractions and whatnot
Same. LEDs that show the battery life of the case and each bud would be dope
I would love to see just simple 1 row e-Ink display showing only batery levels of buds and the case. No more funcionality. It would sip power as it would only need to refresh once every few minutes. One can dream.
airpods pro 2 always connected to all your paired apple devices and always show battery status at all times even when not in use. Like a battery widget on mac or iphone etc. So it is really pointless.
Wait airpods don't have battery indicator on the case??? 😂
@@1994rastaboy but what if I don’t want to pull my phone out of my pocket/purse/backpack? Like just pull airpods out look at what’s playing, see battery levels, see what volume it’s set at before you click to play? I do that a lot where I just put the airpods in and click play and sometimes it’s my music sometimes it’s whatever other media that was playing and then I have to pull my phone out, unlock, choose the correct media…😅 so much work
Edit: spellcheck :)
This is the first time I'm seeing Dave having earlier access than Marquez, but hey, who knows, MKBHD might be using that for about a couple of months now.
I mean these aren't the real Apple Airpods, just a mock-up.
@@why_tho_ yeah, but still he does have an early access to those, even unofficial ones.
@@CatPerson3having early access to unofficial 3rd party products and mockups is meaningless lmao literally anyone can make these and send it to a P.o. box
@@CatPerson3 true
@@hunterhawkins8754 yeah, but the ones that a creator chooses makes for an interesting discussion on the possibilities of where tech might move forward just like Dave did in this video. I'm not saying all mock-ups are good, a lot of them are bad, and I'm sure Dave and other creators would agree on that because for sure they wouldn't feature the bad ones, but the interesting ones get featured because it makes for a compelling discussion.
Tbh I love to change my equaliser from song to song especially if it's custom, I do it with my sony headphones all the time and the app is extremely slow and it's annoying to open it again and again, go to the 'sound' tab, scroll down to eq, expand the eq so I can actually select the custom ones I've made. Also my phone is very large and I don't usually want to take it out for small settings I could do in a second.
5:33 I didn’t have enough sleep and seeing that face randomly pop up on the screen freaked me out. I thought I was tripping. 😂
The original airpods were terrible on non iphone devices because they didn't have the necessary control software. These airpods with a screen can work with any device with no need to download a special app to get all the functions. That's pretty cool really.
I think you hit the nail on the head here. It opens up full capability for non-iOS devices
You think this device will not be nicely put inside Apple ecosystem wall? Probably has firmware updates locked behind owning another Apple device (if that sounds familiar?)
@@Misterdavidc but theres no way apple was considering this when they made the screen right? making its devices usable on other companies' products is not an apple thing to do
@@Misterdavidc which is the last thing that Apple wants
That is literally why this device will never happen. Apple doesn't want to open their ecosystem@@Misterdavidc
LOL the Blizzard ghost edit
I'd love to see an earphone case with physical pause, skip and volume controls as long as they're well done. You'd get all the benefit of the control without all the downsides of a screen.
It'd be nice just to have it in your pocket or on your desk and always have those controls available.
Makes sense if you want quickly accessing the controls of the AirPods like ANC, equaliser, finding the earbuds will be easy. Compared to using a Phone with an app/settings to make changes. Or when excessing/running if you do not have a apple watch, they can use the case to simply change tracks. Also, most importantly another screen to PUT ADS for the company.
That is a very impressive mock-up. Kudos to the team that put it together.
Not a mock-up, these are Chuwi A8 Pro, they've been out for a while.
I’d love a battery level indicator “screen” on my Airpod’s case.
Calling it now: AirPods case with a built-in screen + Gemini = Apple's sneaky AI play.
This is likely better than AI pins
There is also the insane meme value of this thing. I can imagine hackers and tech enthusiasts programming doom into that screen
The screen makes sense to me. Imagine you pull out your headphones to put them on and select a playlist or podcast with the case that's alredy in your hand. Rather than pulling out the case putting in headphones putting away the case then pulling out phone unlocking it navigating to Spotify and then selecting a song. Doing it with the case makes a lot of sense assuming you are not alredy wearing the headphones.
I hear you. But you still Probs have to turn the case screen on, click the app, navigate on a tiny screen. Like you put ur earphones on once and they stay in. This would maybe save 1 second the first time you get them out right? Like where are you putting them in? Is it at home, the bus? Feel like phone is stillore convenient. Phones unlock so quick w fingerprint and face unlock.
@@ethanrichold7425 I would think the screen on the case would unlock automatically when you open the case.
If it can operate as a music player without a phone, that would be rad.
Doesnt the apple watch do that ?
@@MaxPotatoesLuckyit does, but AirPods would be more convenient.
Usually I'm walking around the house listening on airpods while my phone is on a desk somewhere. A small remote would be kinda nice to have with me (in case you don't own an apple watch)
I don't really like dealing with wireless earbuds/headphones, but if I did I probably *would* appreciate the screen. It gives you a way to ignore your phone for awhile and not get sucked back in by notifications or muscle memory to check apps etc... A lot of people want more ways to "disconnect" and if the AirPods screen did not support notifications and stuff, it would help provide that. It gives you a simple interface to listen to audio, control transparency mode etc... and nothing else. It also can be more intuitive so you don't have to know control gestures. Seems like it'd be a more friendly interface. I can see there being clips/straps for it too for working out so you can set your phone down and use the case as your main interface while exercising, etc...
I think it's for the same reason that AirPods Pro got USB-C before the iPhones because Apple knows there are android users who loves AirPods and they made it easier to use them outside of their ecosystem. Having a screen gives more control to non iPhone users which is great.
Exactly, no need to download an app
Apple doing something for non-apple users? Ahahahahahahhahahahahaha
@@ffeliziani Probably to alleviate the DOJ vs Apple case where they were called monopolistic for locking their accessories on the iPhone only. Or I assume they would also try to persuade market which aren't Iphone heavy like China and Asia to buy the airpod.
I think it is most likely to be the opposite. To make it work there has to be code that speaks with android and making the screen apple only seems to be the perfect way to make a tall walled garden between apple and android users. "Imagine the functionality you're losing by sticking to android, maybe you should switch to IOS on your next upgrade to get the full experience"
@@bjay8295 They were getting sued for accused of being monopolistic right now, I think making a bigger wall will give the DOJ a field day against Apple.
This would a be a durability nightmare…..
AirPods cases are the most dropped items on the planet 💀💀
that's the reason Apple came up with this idea
more fragile = more profit
Stop dropping your stuff then, I havent.
I can see a lot of people liking this. If you're out running or you're spending time with a hobby and you want to change your music but you don't want to look at your phone and be distracted by stuff happening on it instead of what you're actually doing having controls on your case gives you that ability.
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I mean, if my phone is in my backpack or I’m using it as a screen, having the case as a controller seems like a useful feature… it’s like an Ipod shuffle upgraded to an ipod touch
who tf puts their phone in a backpack but keeps AirPods' case in a pocket
@@KotanskySS phone is bulky when running or biking. The airpods case is smaller, and therefore more portable less annoying to have!
I have the JBL Tour Pro 2 and I can say: I wasn't expecting that I need that kind of case in my headphones. It's very useful when I need to rapidly change some settings in my headphones that before I would need to take my phone and search for JBL app. It's hard to explain, but this thing is actually very useful in many scenarios. Also, the case can be used when connected to any device, be it an iPhone, Android or Windows, so you don't need to install any third party app (the JBL app isn't available for Windows, so you can manage everything within the case).
This looks like it runs the exact same hardware as the Tour Pro 2
I'm guessing it could possibly be an updated version of an iPod. Imagine they put some storage in there and you could access music, apps and stuff like the watch but it becomes completely independent from your phone. It's possible.
I can get one good idea as to why it’s beneficial to have a screen on the case because I have the JBL‘s with the screen on the case… as a truck driver, it is more visually distracting to pull out a phone look at it and try to skip songs or play around with the settings when I’m listening to music, but with the case itself, I’ve sort of memorize through muscle memory on the process of skipping, putting the volume up and down although a phone, you can easily click a button and that’s easier or playing around with the equalizer. Some of those things have already become muscle memory for me with such a smaller device that I can just fiddle around with in my pocket versus having a larger screen to try to do the same thing and then miss clicking things which forces me to just take the phone out overall and look at it, which is a driving hazard so for me, this would actually make sense and it’s not an ideal situation for everyone
Is this an out of season April fools joke?
The benefit of the screen is that you can configure the headphones without any 3rd party app or OS integration. You don't need a companion app that will become unsupported after a few years and you don't lose features if you are using the buds with non-apple device. That's honestly a huge game changer to me, like a paradigm shift. Maybe the headphones are not the best example of that, but I really like this approach for electronic accessories.
Man, in appliances some brands are forfeiting this ability to configure on device, exchanging it for companion apps. I have a washing machine that has programs that are only available via an app, but that's for other reasons I assume. Forced gathering of the user data via the app and/or planned obsolesence.
For apple it makes sense to make a statement that airpods are now fully vendor independent to make it seem like apple loves vendor interoperability. Perhaps to make some regulators happy...
all of the controls shown in the video already work with the airpods pro 2 on any platform: changing noise cancellation, play pause skip. This doesn't solve any of the real issues without an iPhone, such as not being able to upgrade the firmware, customize squeeze actions, make the ringer on the airpods silent, turn off find my...
@@skylegendgamingmaybe the hook would be that they want to market it to older, less hardcore users who have money but are turned off by having to remember all the touch controls.
Remeber folks, whenever a tech guy says "that is/would be such an Apple thing to do", just replace Apple with evil and you get what they really mean there.
You must be a foreign fanboy, because I always think of Microsoft and Google when evil is mentioned even before Apple.
@@joefilter2923 yeah (*I'm a foreign consumer insofar as I don't live in the US), so what? I've always thought of those people who think Microsoft and Google are "more evil" than Apple as dumb. Obviously every corporation is trying to suck as much money as possible out of you, Apple is just that much more blatant about it. What I don't understand is how you derived that I'm a fanboy from that information? If anything, you could've/should've said that I'm a hater (of Apple), and that's just because (as I said before), they make it so blatant and easy to hate them lol.
I agree with you and I would add that if the screen breaks you have to get it fixed at a cost. However I could protect my phone by not pulling it out to change a setting. It could be a remote screen for your notification. Going back to your point though it is away of making more money when you drop it, lose it or it just stops working. $299 for the case and $89 for the apple care.
There are multiple knockoff units like these in Asia with that exact same touchscreen user interface.
And also JBL has the Tour Pro 2 - which has the exact same touchscreen and case and look with a different earbud design.
JBL is the pioneer, its screen isn't just a battery change display.
Every electronic company: Lets do something new
Adds a touch screen .
Genius !
Nah, more like...
"Adds AI"
“Then the one with the notch!” Really got me for some reason! 😂
I want to see the version of this video where Dave didn't have an epiphany mid-shoot lmao
Did you get by april 1st? lol
April first haha, apple users have to create happiness
2 words: college students
"Oh I know what's happening... We're about to get fleeced!! 😂
5:33 well played bringing back that Diablo Mobile flashback
I wonder if Apple is attempting to create space for a product that could (in the future) resemble what the Rabbit R1 is supposed to be. Something that relies on the internet connectivity of a phone to facilitate phone tasks through voice commands and AI and is able to display text information on a small screen.
i really like this theory!
...why would you not just do that on the phone
@@maezelbop sometimes people are suckers for gimmicks (myself included)
Sounds like the apple watch but worse.
Tim Cook is knocking on his door right now... "why you telling the world of our trade secrets???"... lol
FBI and SWAT
Thanks Dave! I think the Airpods case would rest on my table instead of the phone, if it could control my music. A lot of us have consciously started cutting down screen time and this seems the perfect device to not open the phone to change a song and realise 2 hours down the doom scroll line that you were here for something else
If this comes out with the ability to play synced playlists on spotify im getting it no matter the price. That would be exactly what ive been looking for when working out
I mean, as a person who uses my buds (soundpeats) with a laptop, its kind of annoying to manage with no settings whatsoever. But I think you hit the nail on the head with the actual reason Apple would do this.
Most buds AND laptops have an inbuild control buttons for music functions. So what exactly does this screen give you? Especially that all options beside the most basic ones(that you already can use directly from buds/laptop keyboard) demand use of small very small screen with a lot of scrolling - using big screen on laptop would be so much faster, just as its the case with smartwatches beyond basic functions, where you could use the app on the watch, but actually end up opening it on your smartphone, because you see more info and can do things faster.
@@alexejvornoskov6580 I didn't say it'd do something impossible. Its just more convenient. But yeah I would not spend more than 5$ for that screen.
Next year they will have Airpods pro max with 120Hz ProMotion™ Display for 350$
Use cases:
1. charging and battery status
2. scrub and skip through songs and playlists
3. switch songs and playlists without a phone (ex. no phones in a classroom, still can play music)
If this was an iPod (AirPod) back in the day, would have been magical
Nothing is impossible 🗣️🔥
5:53 Moment of enlightenment 😂
I think you missed it: AI.
Imagine having a good version of Siri on this thing. This can be Apple's answer to 01 Light or Rabbit R1.
You would already get this device because you need earphones, but since this device already have this extra functionality you'd probably give it a try and if it's good you won't think of buying the 01 Light.
It also has an outside speaker already
Also a H1 security chip, so when your aipods gets stolen, they cant be used again. Because they are locked behind faceID or touchID
The battery life would take a huge hit tho!
a certain large group of people in the US will never use transparency mode if the abbreviation for it is that
I’m with you on this. I love me some headphones and have owned headphones from Apple, Jabra, Sony, Soundcore, Sennheiser, JBL, and even Jlabs.
I still have a few of those pairs and use them but I rock second gen AirPod Pros as my daily drivers because they’re solid and I’m firmly in the Apple ecosystem. I have an iPhone and an Apple Watch and see no need for a touchscreen on my AirPods case.
With that said, I’ll still buy them and show off the screen to my friends as a cool feature but I’ll rarely, if ever, personally use that touchscreen.
i think this is one of the most accurate interpretation of apple logic i have heard in a while.....😂
if Apple actually pulls this off, there will be bloodshed. Also I swear DankPods already featured a nugget AirPods knockoff that has a screen.
Crapple lol
Dave4D when?
I could see this being more useful as controlling noise cancellation and many other features requires diving deep into settings menus. It would be much easier to have direct access to Airpod controls on it's own device.
I have JBL tour pro 2's, a very similar concept. I like the screen. Half the features I don't really like, and seeking time in songs isn't an option, but I love them.
Theirs actually a Jbl earphones with a touch screen launched
That’s why he talks about them in the video
You're pulling out the buds and use case to start the music, change equalizer etc. Without wonky tapping of the buds, pulling out the phone or using a watch. I think it's brilliant.
I think this would be really great for people working out who don’t want to be distracted by their phone. Or even people who work while listening to music. Only examples I can think of
Are there any good USB type C earphones with ANC out there? I found Asus Cetra II, but it's really hard to find