It goes without saying, but all of our videos are for the education of basketball officials. They are not meant to disparage any players, coaches, officials, or schools. Let's get better together.
Notice that the fouling player looks at the Lead before he commits the foul: throws the forearm. This is an assault, not just a foul; the player should never be allowed to play again.
Great break down on positioning and the Center could have move up to get cross view between players also to spread out while becoming new lead owing to trail easier if ball goes to other basket, overall great walk through, thanks Greg awesome walk through. OLD REF
A couple of great takeaways, ( i had to listen with sound off so) having a better look and potentially a foul on the shooter may have prevented this situation from happening later. Also, the trail official with the slow, controlled mechanics for the flagrant foul and not rushing to the table (my biggest mistake). i liked the suggestion to get the teams to their benches, move the division line for a conference, all three officials, with one keeping their eye on players while listening. then the calling official and the "R" getting the coaches together to explain and discuss. for not yet experiencing a flagrant foul (with possible ejection), a great training for me. also to determine if it was a dead ball foul for not to determine if it was a personal or technical foul. great stuff!
I spent 3 years officiating middle school basketball, and since that time 15+ years coaching it. Getting into position to see the play, was the key thing I was taught, and that was stressed to me when I was wearing a whistle. Whats more the lack of positioning has been my biggest gripe as a coach. I have had officials I like personally liked, that felt were not good because they weren't in the right position to make calls, others I didn't like who I felt like were better officials because they got into the right positions to make the right call. I would rather see an official get in the way, than call the game from 50 ft away, and there are far more doing that than there should be.
This is great. But was the final call for the Flagrant Foul. Did the shooter get to shoot one after the made 3 pointer and did the team get to shoot the technical foul for two and get the ball back and did the player that did the flagrant foul get ejected from the game? Thank you for the video, it is a good one.
Hi Patrick. First off this is NCAA-M. My understanding is the player was ejected (NCAA-M) for the Flagrant foul. Part of our parsing of this play is whether the foul was live ball or dead ball contact. For administration in high school: IMO it is live ball contact after the offensive player had completed his shooting motion and returned to the floor. Score the goal and administer a 2 shot foul for the Flagrant shot by the player who was fouled or their substitute. Ball inbounded at the spot of the foul.
It goes without saying, but all of our videos are for the education of basketball officials. They are not meant to disparage any players, coaches, officials, or schools. Let's get better together.
Notice that the fouling player looks at the Lead before he commits the foul: throws the forearm. This is an assault, not just a foul; the player should never be allowed to play again.
Phenomenal breakdown and explanation. Keep up the great work!
Great break down on positioning and the Center could have move up to get cross view between players also to spread out while becoming new lead owing to trail easier if ball goes to other basket, overall great walk through, thanks Greg awesome walk through. OLD REF
Really enjoying the knowledge gained from these videos. Thanks
Great breakdown of this play. Good to see this in whole rather than a snippet that did not tell the entire story.
A couple of great takeaways, ( i had to listen with sound off so) having a better look and potentially a foul on the shooter may have prevented this situation from happening later. Also, the trail official with the slow, controlled mechanics for the flagrant foul and not rushing to the table (my biggest mistake). i liked the suggestion to get the teams to their benches, move the division line for a conference, all three officials, with one keeping their eye on players while listening. then the calling official and the "R" getting the coaches together to explain and discuss. for not yet experiencing a flagrant foul (with possible ejection), a great training for me. also to determine if it was a dead ball foul for not to determine if it was a personal or technical foul. great stuff!
Excellent feedback about moving to get a better look. Using the NBA official as an example was brilliant.
I spent 3 years officiating middle school basketball, and since that time 15+ years coaching it. Getting into position to see the play, was the key thing I was taught, and that was stressed to me when I was wearing a whistle. Whats more the lack of positioning has been my biggest gripe as a coach. I have had officials I like personally liked, that felt were not good because they weren't in the right position to make calls, others I didn't like who I felt like were better officials because they got into the right positions to make the right call. I would rather see an official get in the way, than call the game from 50 ft away, and there are far more doing that than there should be.
Bryan, unfortunately you are all too correct with your assessment. We are much better officials when we have an open look on plays!
Excellent video. Sharing this for sure.
Thank you for this video!
Hello, great videos! Very educative and clearly and plainly spoken. I would love you to do also some two referee dynamics. Thanks!
will be sure to work on getting to a open look tomorrow at my games. a1 breakdown!!
Hey Greg, I love your work. Which program do you use for editing your videos?
On a Mac: Screenflow
Thank you
Great video! Keep em coming
This is great. But was the final call for the Flagrant Foul. Did the shooter get to shoot one after the made 3 pointer and did the team get to shoot the technical foul for two and get the ball back and did the player that did the flagrant foul get ejected from the game? Thank you for the video, it is a good one.
Hi Patrick. First off this is NCAA-M.
My understanding is the player was ejected (NCAA-M) for the Flagrant foul.
Part of our parsing of this play is whether the foul was live ball or dead ball contact.
For administration in high school:
IMO it is live ball contact after the offensive player had completed his shooting motion and returned to the floor.
Score the goal and administer a 2 shot foul for the Flagrant shot by the player who was fouled or their substitute.
Ball inbounded at the spot of the foul.
This is bordering on flagrant foul.
Is that a salt and pepper shaker next to the basketball? Has been the background in a couple videos now.
STRAIGHT RED CARD in rugby and soccer
Out of the cort.
Hey bud, are you still doinv videos? You disappeared on us!
All signs point to yes!
These where assaults o-#?!
So if a player has five fauls and get a flagrant faul he is out
In NFHS rules a player is disqualified for either 5 fouls OR one flagrant foul.