Well, she’s an excellent dancer. For ballet. She only had three months to retrain for hip hop style choreo so it makes sense that she’s not the best of the group for their choreo. I wouldn’t be shocked if one day she is the best of them, though!
@@baymuzlusut9846but zuah is much more skilled in ballet and dance overall then mina and I agree being a ballerina does not make her the best idol dancer in her group but it's hard for her to retrain years of bellet experience to do hip hop style dance
@@zakrichardson3603 that became ballet is about flexibility mostly flexible members are mostly stiff like lia from itzy rose from bp yerin from everglow. kpop dance need power locking popping + wich ballet doesn't have . but this is not excuse bec yall kpop fans hype up ballet female dancers
@@msshinyuna I don't hype up balet dancers in kpop, because it is a completely different dance style and being a good balet dancer dosnt mean a good idol dancer as they are very different
It's because people see sakura as “just a visual” , they didn't even look at her skills. She literally placed 2nd in PD48 for a reason, not just because of her visuals but also HER “SKILLS”
@@xjenniez lmao did you really say that? Positions don't matter. for example Rosé is a lead dancer, however Jennie>>Rosé, in the dance Mina is a main dancer, however Jihyo>>Mina, in the dance. So it's not because she doesn't have a dance position that she's a bad dancer.
@@guigzs Oh, you're right. But I disagree about Jennie. Positions DO matter, although some idols are sometimes given the wrong position. I didn't say that she was a bad dance either, I just wouldn't think that she's a better dancer than her team members but I'm not someone who can judge a dancer professionally and just only state my own opinon.
Unpopular opinion- people excelling in ballet shouldn’t be given a main dancer position because ballet and idol dancing are two very different dancing styles (eg- Mina and Kazuha)
Sakura has 100 percent of my respect. From being mediocre/horrible on 48, to having so much improvment. You can tell she practiced her ass off and it worked
8 of those in a completely different industry with completely different standards. She excelled and improved in being an idol there too. She has worked hard in whatever she did forall 12 years.@user-xf8if7mx2j
Improvement and impeccable work ethic… like she could easily stay famous in Japan but she didn’t settle for the easy option. I have so much respect for her!
The top 3 are very interchangeable. All of them have their strengths and their weaknesses. Both Yunjin and Sakura struggle a lot with technical (in-)consistency while Chaewon can be quite stiff at times. It would be alright if people put Chaewon first and vice versa.
Ah no wonder it kinda just puts me off sometimes, Yunjin just seems alot better than me, but if they're interchangeable then that's good enough for me, I'm not underestimating Kkura, she's come a long way
She has her moments, she is definitely inconsistent which can make or break her dance during their performances, but she killed parts like the chorus of FEARLESS
Fr she should have started her career in South Korea and not Japan even if it was her home country, if she there for music the idol way, Japan’s idol system way more modeling than singing and dancing
@@Hdjdnddjdhzksksno it’s sakura she’s been an idol for 12 years now and she still works just as since day 1. Sakura doubts herself a lot and she in the documentary that even when she works hard one part of her brain is telling her she’s not doing enough. She also said at a concert that she’s never satisfied with herself. So I think even if sakura got trained when she was younger she would be the same.
Same!!! I’m surprised to see this ranking but it’s with explanation!!! Wow sakura improved ALOT I remember her being Almost the weakest dancer in izone
I expected Chaewon to be first, but Sakura deserved the spot. How much she had improve during Izone day, it's really amazing to look at. Her dancing is so underrated and needs to be praised more. I was shocked to found out that Kazuha place first for dancing- maybe her daning doesn't stick out to me. She is strong in ballet and ballet is the fundamental for all the dances, but i don't think she a good enough idol dancer to be the first in lesserafim
@@albatross.77 After Unforgiven era i'd argue that Sakura, Eunchae and Chaewon could move up. EP&BW showcased a lot more of Eunchae & Sakura's strengths (esp. Eunchae's footwork, flowy coodination & accented beats, and also Sakura's sharpness, versatility and clean body lines).
Sakura has 10 years of experience under her belt. Yes, idol dancing in Japan is different, but years of experience in performing lets your body learn a lot of things. Also, she has definitely improved since her HKT48 and Iz*One days and it shows😍
sakura has come so far and it shows. many people (including SM/HYBE) brushes her under the rug as just a visual, she's not the same performer as her pd48/izone days and hopefully people start to see that
@@Arzx_Requiem even they're same tier 7, but still mid tier and high tier is different. At least if you not agree, give explanation instead of saying "my opinion". We talk about fact not about opinion. Opinions doesn't matter if comes to techniques. ❤️
Wanted to add a few things... Eunchae I noticed has really good sense of musicality in # times she decides to execute a move to match with a beat sometimes. (Think triplet on sheet music) she's good at thinking on her feet about those moments. & Sakura's arm muscles are not to be looked down upon, girly is the flash w those arms.
honestly kpop fans need to stop assuming just because an idol is a former ballerina means they're an amazing idol dancer. a lot of kpop choreos are influenced by hip hop, which is the polar opposite of ballet.
im so proud of kkuras progress, cs in the izone days she was considered one of the worst dancers so I'm happy to see her growth even after 15 years of experience
Thank you, this is one of the few that I can agree on. I think people also forget that consistency is so important when it comes to dancing and between performances. This was briefly mentioned in FoT's reaction video to Impurities, but just to reiterate again since it isn't said enough, Sakura is the most consistent when it comes to her dancing. You could take any cut from her dance video/fancams and overlay it to another video of the same dance by her, she will be in the exact same pose/form with almost no difference. It's near impossible to do this without her consistency and practice.
I think Sakura is in 2nd place and chaewon in 1st place cuz Chaewon is a great dancer . She has a good energy, her face expression is on top, she has that power in dancing, her mouvements are so smooth .... she just deserve main dancer title
I agree but face expressions have nothing to do with technique unless they look so uninterested it affects them by making them shortcut/forget moves. Stage presence is a whole other topic
@@niv_ the top 3 are interchangeable, Yunjin just looks better to me but there's something she's lacking at, I can't exactly point out what it is though
I completely agree with you, Although, kazuha does ballet she isnt the best dancer in le sserarim. All the members are really good dancers, especially Sakura. In many other videos, I have seen her being the last or second last. I hope haters can realize how great a dancer she is from this video. Good to see you highlighting each point for all the idols.
i almost didn't watch this clip bc i thought its gonna be a typical lesserafim dance ranking and them always placing sakura at the last place but this is the first one who recognized her improvements and dance skills that she honed with her passion and relentless desire to improve... it's nice for people to appreciate her extra hours in the practice room where she admitted to always stay behind to practice more :) they always rank kazuha as first just bc she's a ballerina but her dance skills in kpop dancing isn't 1st rank quality tho she was really impressive dancing ballet
AND THIS IS THE CORRECT RANKING !!!! ppl just defaulting to having kazuha as like top 3 is crazy like just bc she did ballet that doesn’t make her the best in terms of the type of dancing lesserafim does (coming from someone who did ballet for 13 years then transitioned to doing hiphop- it’s a BIG difference) also sakura has improved sm since izone but ppl always put her last like have u even seen her dance recently she’s def one of the best in lsrfm 😭😭
Now everyone started to hate on kazuha. Great💀💀 People should not hate her for being a ballerina like she is quite good in her dancing ofc i know shes not the best but shes not the worst either
i dont think people in the comments are hating on her…? its just their honest opinions without being disrespectful. i dont think there’s exactly a way to sugarcoat saying someone isnt the best dancer in a group ☠️ they arent hating on her. relax
Those who keeps hating on Sakura for getting no.1, definitely never watched her fancams lol Even their choreography director has said Sakura is the one improved the most, and she made best decision when she put sakura as center in their HYDRA performance
I noticed how much Sakura improved in Iz*one during the SSOTS era but then girlie comeback in a new group with even more improvements yet some people still calling her a bad dancer? She’s not an expert but the hard work and improvement are literally in your face.
Kazuha is a classical dancer which has a lot of restrictions and certain things you can't do in ballet bc it would not be considered elegant and pretty. She still is an amazing dancer but her idol type dancing is different and lacks a little bit from her ballet dancing, but she is improving and she is getting better every time. I'm saying all of this from a professional dancer point of view since I've been dancing for 15 years in ballet, contemporary, jazz, and hip hop. So plz don't take this too seriously, I mean this all out of love
Wow, as someone who doesn’t know much about dancing, I would’ve thought all of the girls would place tier 6. Shows you how much they practice and work on their performances for them to look this amazing on stage
y'll gotta admit that Kazuha is a overhyped, she's praised for her sp & dance sm but honestly she isn't even that good in both 💀 like let my girl improve first-
she IS good in dance. just not the idol dance y’all think of. ballet is a style as well and everyone likes to say being a ballerina doesn’t mean you’re a good dancer, but for kazuha it does. she’s an extremely proficient ballerina but not a standout idol dancer.
hope this video helps fans realize that being a ballerina does not automatically make someone a main dancer, kpop dance and ballet are two different dance styles.
bro this is so underrated. no one notices sakura's dance skill. everyone just calls her "only visual" but no one is talking abt HOW MUCH SHE IMPROVED!!
Agree with OP's opinion. People need to stop looking at Sakura’s dance skills for only AKB48 or izone days. The best 3 dancers are Sakura, Chaewon and Yunjin. Even Chaewon told that Eunchae and Kazuha missed some dance steps when she monitored the dance isolation by the group fancam.
And when you explain to them why nj and nmixx are better they say “it’s my op😭”or “have you seen them dance their def better then them” with no explanation
everyone is like Le Sserafim is the best when it comes to dnace in 4th gen gg! but then there is New Jeans, Nmixx, and Kepler- NOT saying that they r bad dnacers, but when it comes to open style, there r groups who excel at that more.
I'm not a dance expert but Zuha herself has mentioned more than once before how even if she was to become a pro ballet dancer it wasn't the same to be a kpop dancer since the styles are different, the good thing is their team performance are using her abilities as a ballet dancer and implement it in the choreography. Eunchae is still young so that would explain how sometimes she doesn't have a full control of her body and movements, but she trained in dance since she was young so she can improve more. About Kkura, Chaewon and Yunjin they have the experience and have been practicing for years now, Yunjin had the longest training among all the members.
Unpopular opinion- people excelling in ballet shouldn't be given a main dancer position because ballet and idol dancing are two very different dancing styles (eg- Mina and Kazuha). Kpop fans need to understand that begin ballerina doesn't mean you are good/best dancer. It pisses me off to see how much people underestimate Sakura : A lot of people fail to realize that she has had such a huge improvement
As a dancer also, I kind of disagree with the top 2. For me Chaewon is a very great dancer better then Sakura.Chaewon has more of a core control then Sakura and she has more body control then Sakura. And the op put Kazuha in the last because I think that Kazuha has a ballet background. When we talk about dance there are many different types of dances and each have their own styles and techniques. For example Kazuha in the field of ballet has a great sence and is very good but since kpop lean towards more of a hip hop and modern dance which is different from ballet and she only train for 3 months thats why compared to her other members her core is weak. And for Chaewon and Sakura, they have the experience of being on stage before and they know what they are strong and weak at and they can make their strong point to their advantages, to be a great dancer don't mean being flexible or sharp moves it also about the strategy and techique of the dancer. I don't know what type of dance does the OP do, but I think they are a hip hop or bboying dancer because they lean more towards that type of dances from their explation. And hip hop and ballet are very different from each other, ballet dancers are train to be elegent, beautiful, classy and each of their moves tell a story. I am a modern and chinoiserie dancer and my type of dancing lean towards that of Kazuha since we have similar background.
I didn’t really follow Izone so I thought Sakura has always been THIS GOOD and didn’t understand the hate at all. I guess most people are still biased. Nice to hear that even a real dancer confirms that Sakura is a good dancer.
i felt like this is the reason why they still didn't have main dancer position, this ranking somehow changing esp if we watched lots of their performance
Sakura is super duper improve her talent, you can see by yourself by her dance move. Even her dance teacher also said that she was improve a lot. She just lack in vocal only but not in dance. If she could be center, you can see her improvement tho:(
I am in awe realizing that Sakura did improve so much. Some Jpop idols have this very distinct dance style that looked so off for me (even if I'm not a dancer myself). You could see that in Sakura when she was with AKB and then she improved so much during her Izone days but wasn't really that eye-catching. Now with Lesserafim, oh my what a progress indeed. Her dedication and hardwork is very evident. I am so happy for Sakura to be recognized like this.
I understand that being a ballerina doesn’t automatically make Kazuha the best at dancing but even then she’s pretty good with a lot of their dances. She had great footwork in Blue Flame.
Unpopular Opinion: People need to shut theyre mouth saying zuha is main dancer material. Like I get it she's a ballerina but that is not a valid reason to call her a "Main Dancer Material" and yall defending her that she has the shortest period of training but accept it that Yunjin/Chaewon are better than her. Heck, even Sakura is. She is not in her PD48 days. Girly improved. If she got proper training, girly couldve excelled in the dance category.
I think i like Chaewon's dancing more. Absolutely no hate to Sakura ( She is an absolute queen ) But i just really like Chaewon's dancing skills and especially in the Anti-fragile era which she owned ❤️
Ikr?? 💀💀 how can you even do tiers for dance and these descriptions are wacky asf. They miss out so many info like Eunchae's musicality, Sakura's arm strength and Chaewon's efficiency. Also, why are there so many terms such as foundations, dynamics, popping, isolation & technique all grouped together in such a messy manner? It's so weird. There's also the fact that some of these kpop idols are stylistic dancers so they can't really be judged based on technique. Idk why kpop stans follow these tiers religiously, it feels so fake.
I think they're soooo good in coordination nd energy,But I think they should in future, making the main dancer has a dance break or something wich makes her noticeable or tell more abt her story of dancing trough the years
i honestly was surprised when i saw sakura debuted in le sserafim because she dance so good!!! i was not a fan of izone nor kkura but now i love this group & kkura esp so much because i remembered her in pd48, she was obviously not technically good but she have shown immense improvements in this group. absolutely somethin to admire. just that i always see her as someone who doesnt want to overshadow the other members like she love to bring the other members forward if she could. thts y i love her more
Ultimately I think a lot of ppl misunderstand the fact that ballet and dancing (K-pop) is different. They might be flexible and able to move their body more but that doesn’t mean they have the groove, or best technique. Although there are prob a lot of ballerinas that also excel in such dance.
I don't think Kazuha is the worst dancer of the group tho, and yes I know that even if someone is a ballet dancer it doesn't mean they are the best but i think Eunchae would be the last one tho. Just my opinion
Imo, eunchae and kazuha are really close and i wouldn't say that sakura is first, she messes up and shortcuts moves A LOT which kinda brings her down, especially in her iz*one years (look at SSOTS dance break and you can tell)
Looking at Kazuha’s dance (don’t get me wrong she’s a great dancer) I was shocked learning she’s the main dancer because compared to Chaewon and Sakura her dance is really nothing special except for her flexibility and plus Kazuha does not have a fitting dance style for K-Pop though she would make elegant songs look amazing
Now fearnot and netizen can stop underestimate sakura and saying kazuha is the best. That's not true... In reality kazuha last and sakura first in term idol dance and open style. I don't hate kazuha but I feel so annoying when fearnot/netizen said sakura last and kazuha is the best because she's a professional ballet🙄. Ballet and idol dancing is two different things! Being good or professional in ballet doesn't mean she good in idol dance. Now please treat sakura as main dancer and chaewon as lead dancer❤️.
Guys why do you underestimate Sakura so much 😢, she has great technique, isolations and she is ranked 1 in open style dancing , stage presence, flexibility ≠ great dancing
This was amazing tho. Always highly anticipate these breakdowns. Afaik haven’t seen an IVE analysis, would be waiting for that now to complete the big gg debuts of 2022
They're not worth of being ranked and analyzed. Tiers don't really exist but here are my sentiments: Gaeul: High Tier 7 Yujin: High Tier 7 Rei: Mid Tier 7 Liz: Mid Tier 7 Leeseo: Low Tier 7 Wonyoung: Low Tier 7
@@potathottwit7604 i would guess that's how it probably is, but i'm also more curious about the actual explanations for the tiering and analysis of each member's technique
i noticed that lesserafim are average dancers some of them are still stiff, and I've watch their fancams you could really notice, they have good energy and balance that's why they look amazing when dancing, but in real life i noticed that their skills and dancing must be practiced more, also in lesserafim i think chaewon dances best tho she's a little stiff actually all of them, chaewon has the best balance, sakura is still stiff but compared to her in izone she improves so much, why doesn't anybody sees that?? yunjin doesn't really like dancing she said that before I'm glad she's improved a lot ever since being in pd48 she's still not that good a dancing since you could see her lacking but so far she had a great improvement, as for kazuha it's normal for her to be flexible since she's a ballerina however i noticed that she still lack in dancing, like in isolations she had good torso control tho that's a must because she's a ballerina and her balance is outstanding, and lastly eunchae i noticed how stiff she was sometimes she doesn't have a good torso control but I'm amazed how well she performs, i want people to see that idols have weaknesses too, not because you see them dancing well means their a good dancer because off cam they cried in order to be what they are right now, i stated some of their weaknesses when watching don't just watch, observe also.
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kpop fans need to understand that begin ballerina doesn't mean you are good/best dancer
Well, she’s an excellent dancer. For ballet. She only had three months to retrain for hip hop style choreo so it makes sense that she’s not the best of the group for their choreo. I wouldn’t be shocked if one day she is the best of them, though!
@@baymuzlusut9846but zuah is much more skilled in ballet and dance overall then mina and I agree being a ballerina does not make her the best idol dancer in her group but it's hard for her to retrain years of bellet experience to do hip hop style dance
@@zakrichardson3603 that became ballet is about flexibility mostly flexible members are mostly stiff like lia from itzy rose from bp yerin from everglow. kpop dance need power locking popping + wich ballet doesn't have . but this is not excuse bec yall kpop fans hype up ballet female dancers
@@msshinyuna I don't hype up balet dancers in kpop, because it is a completely different dance style and being a good balet dancer dosnt mean a good idol dancer as they are very different
she's a good dancer, she just doesn't stand out when it comes to idol dancing
It pisses me off to see how much people underestimate Sakura :(
A lot of people fail to realize that she has had such a huge improvement.
I think it's because in izone she was one of the members with least skills and reputation has stuck with her and people refuse to see any improvement
It's because people see sakura as “just a visual” , they didn't even look at her skills. She literally placed 2nd in PD48 for a reason, not just because of her visuals but also HER “SKILLS”
But she doesn't even have a dancer position in lesserafim so it doesn't make sense that she's the best dancer in lesserafim.
@@xjenniez lmao did you really say that? Positions don't matter.
for example
Rosé is a lead dancer, however
Jennie>>Rosé, in the dance
Mina is a main dancer, however
Jihyo>>Mina, in the dance.
So it's not because she doesn't have a dance position that she's a bad dancer.
@@guigzs Oh, you're right. But I disagree about Jennie. Positions DO matter, although some idols are sometimes given the wrong position. I didn't say that she was a bad dance either, I just wouldn't think that she's a better dancer than her team members but I'm not someone who can judge a dancer professionally and just only state my own opinon.
Unpopular opinion- people excelling in ballet shouldn’t be given a main dancer position because ballet and idol dancing are two very different dancing styles (eg- Mina and Kazuha)
That's the reason Mina lost it... she should have focused more on vocals.
Kazuha is proficient in ballet tho
@@multistan4272 yes she is... but ballet & idol dancing are different things. Both the genre requires different techniques and experience.
@@StayforOnce ik ik
@@StayforOncemina lost what???
Sakura has 100 percent of my respect. From being mediocre/horrible on 48, to having so much improvment. You can tell she practiced her ass off and it worked
8 of those in a completely different industry with completely different standards. She excelled and improved in being an idol there too. She has worked hard in whatever she did forall 12 years.@user-xf8if7mx2j
Sakura should be a great example of improvement ✨
Improvement and impeccable work ethic… like she could easily stay famous in Japan but she didn’t settle for the easy option. I have so much respect for her!
@@biazacha Yeah considering all the shit she got from pd48 and was robbed yes she's good.
The top 3 are very interchangeable. All of them have their strengths and their weaknesses. Both Yunjin and Sakura struggle a lot with technical (in-)consistency while Chaewon can be quite stiff at times.
It would be alright if people put Chaewon first and vice versa.
Ah no wonder it kinda just puts me off sometimes, Yunjin just seems alot better than me, but if they're interchangeable then that's good enough for me, I'm not underestimating Kkura, she's come a long way
agree! it depends on the fancam too, sometimes sakura is super good but other times she shortcuts her movement. it happens
It also depends on what you prioritise more - if technique then chaewon is best, if flexibility then and power then yunjin.
This! I think all 5 are great dancers… but the top 3 really is interchangeable.
@@gia42472 I'd say technique wise, Sakura as she has shown the most improvements, but execution wise, Chaewon, Yunjin is well balanced imo
And I've seen people saying Sakura is the worst dancer in her group like wtf😭
She’s the best dancer
For fearless i do agree. Because she love to shortcut the moves but she has improved in antifragile
Sakura would be like the 5 best
She has her moments, she is definitely inconsistent which can make or break her dance during their performances, but she killed parts like the chorus of FEARLESS
She is. The uploader is bias. Any non delusional person can see that
if Sakura trained during her teenage years just like a kpop trainees, she would excellent in everything
gurl fr
yes but at the same time, if she didnt go through what she went through she may have not been as dedicated as she is now.
Fr she should have started her career in South Korea and not Japan even if it was her home country, if she there for music the idol way, Japan’s idol system way more modeling than singing and dancing
@@Hdjdnddjdhzksksno it’s sakura she’s been an idol for 12 years now and she still works just as since day 1. Sakura doubts herself a lot and she in the documentary that even when she works hard one part of her brain is telling her she’s not doing enough. She also said at a concert that she’s never satisfied with herself. So I think even if sakura got trained when she was younger she would be the same.
Like since the star i new her and cheawon were the best
Most lsfm dance rankings be placing sakura last and kazuha first like??? They think sakura is still the same as her pd48 days,🤣
And if someone correct them they'll be like 'ItS mY oPnIoN'
@@noodelicious2001 or like 'KaZuHa iS a BaLeRiNa'
fr tho 😭
EXACTLY
Same!!! I’m surprised to see this ranking but it’s with explanation!!! Wow sakura improved ALOT I remember her being Almost the weakest dancer in izone
I expected Chaewon to be first, but Sakura deserved the spot. How much she had improve during Izone day, it's really amazing to look at. Her dancing is so underrated and needs to be praised more. I was shocked to found out that Kazuha place first for dancing- maybe her daning doesn't stick out to me. She is strong in ballet and ballet is the fundamental for all the dances, but i don't think she a good enough idol dancer to be the first in lesserafim
Chaewon
All of Lesserafim are such good dancers that I never know the best ranking but this one is sooo accurate
They have no low 7 tier dancers
@@Manchis123 said who
NO ONE
@@nevergonnagiveyouupnevergo972but all of them are tier7. no one even in t6. that's underwhelming
@@albatross.77 After Unforgiven era i'd argue that Sakura, Eunchae and Chaewon could move up. EP&BW showcased a lot more of Eunchae & Sakura's strengths (esp. Eunchae's footwork, flowy coodination & accented beats, and also Sakura's sharpness, versatility and clean body lines).
Sakura has 10 years of experience under her belt. Yes, idol dancing in Japan is different, but years of experience in performing lets your body learn a lot of things. Also, she has definitely improved since her HKT48 and Iz*One days and it shows😍
Also she is the centre so she improved herself to meet the expectations ❤️
Tbh Sakura has improved so much with dancing!!
Early here
Yunjin is truly the most all rounded member in lesserafim🔥
Chaewon too
This duo are so talented 🔥
Tbh all of them , they can sing dance rap have great sp etc..
Agree as hell, she can do everything
She’s an ace
sakura's improvements are so satisfying to watch.
Sakura's improvement through her career is amazing
Sakura improved sm!! Amazing!
sakura has come so far and it shows. many people (including SM/HYBE) brushes her under the rug as just a visual, she's not the same performer as her pd48/izone days and hopefully people start to see that
It's funny how people making their own rankings and putting Sakura last without no explanation while this isn't an opinion
We can have opinion bro, after all, all of em are tier 7 dancers and are pretty interchangeable according to which aspect we prefer/values more
They can't accept sakura is better than their fav... Solo stan behaviour.
@@Arzx_Requiem even they're same tier 7, but still mid tier and high tier is different.
At least if you not agree, give explanation instead of saying "my opinion". We talk about fact not about opinion. Opinions doesn't matter if comes to techniques. ❤️
@@Ryurioleochan fr
@@KoALa_tOo_BAsIc ❤️❤️❤️
Never underestimate SAKURA MIYAWAKI!!
Wanted to add a few things... Eunchae I noticed has really good sense of musicality in # times she decides to execute a move to match with a beat sometimes. (Think triplet on sheet music) she's good at thinking on her feet about those moments. & Sakura's arm muscles are not to be looked down upon, girly is the flash w those arms.
honestly kpop fans need to stop assuming just because an idol is a former ballerina means they're an amazing idol dancer. a lot of kpop choreos are influenced by hip hop, which is the polar opposite of ballet.
im so proud of kkuras progress, cs in the izone days she was considered one of the worst dancers so I'm happy to see her growth even after 15 years of experience
sakura's dancing >>
girlie is improving sm and im so proud of her ❤️
Thank you, this is one of the few that I can agree on. I think people also forget that consistency is so important when it comes to dancing and between performances.
This was briefly mentioned in FoT's reaction video to Impurities, but just to reiterate again since it isn't said enough, Sakura is the most consistent when it comes to her dancing. You could take any cut from her dance video/fancams and overlay it to another video of the same dance by her, she will be in the exact same pose/form with almost no difference. It's near impossible to do this without her consistency and practice.
I think Sakura is in 2nd place and chaewon in 1st place cuz
Chaewon is a great dancer . She has a good energy, her face expression is on top, she has that power in dancing, her mouvements are so smooth .... she just deserve main dancer title
I agree but face expressions have nothing to do with technique unless they look so uninterested it affects them by making them shortcut/forget moves. Stage presence is a whole other topic
Many say that Kazuha is the best dancer in lsfrm☠️
@@fatioo9513I've seen people say Kazuha is and I tried to tell them it's Chaewon. It's actually Sakura but everyone says she's last in dance.
@Fati OO theres lots of people saying it. most of them are fearnots actually
@Fati OO Sorry what I have seen many saying Kazuha is the best dancer. Stop being mad
@@niv_ the top 3 are interchangeable, Yunjin just looks better to me but there's something she's lacking at, I can't exactly point out what it is though
@Fati OO many like many says that
ahh they all seem to have so much potential in dance, i can see all of them soon entering on tier 6 ❤
Sakura is already a good dancer in her izone days esp starting ssots era but she improved to 110% when she trained at hybe and debut in le sserafim.
Proud of Kkura! It's so sad people believe she's the same as her PD48 days. She clearly improved a lot.
I completely agree with you, Although, kazuha does ballet she isnt the best dancer in le sserarim. All the members are really good dancers, especially Sakura. In many other videos, I have seen her being the last or second last. I hope haters can realize how great a dancer she is from this video. Good to see you highlighting each point for all the idols.
i almost didn't watch this clip bc i thought its gonna be a typical lesserafim dance ranking and them always placing sakura at the last place but this is the first one who recognized her improvements and dance skills that she honed with her passion and relentless desire to improve... it's nice for people to appreciate her extra hours in the practice room where she admitted to always stay behind to practice more :) they always rank kazuha as first just bc she's a ballerina but her dance skills in kpop dancing isn't 1st rank quality tho she was really impressive dancing ballet
Yes sakura dance improve a lot like she can be the mains dancer right now
AND THIS IS THE CORRECT RANKING !!!! ppl just defaulting to having kazuha as like top 3 is crazy like just bc she did ballet that doesn’t make her the best in terms of the type of dancing lesserafim does (coming from someone who did ballet for 13 years then transitioned to doing hiphop- it’s a BIG difference)
also sakura has improved sm since izone but ppl always put her last like have u even seen her dance recently she’s def one of the best in lsrfm 😭😭
Now everyone started to hate on kazuha. Great💀💀
People should not hate her for being a ballerina like she is quite good in her dancing ofc i know shes not the best but shes not the worst either
Exactly the way people started to hate on Mina like atleast both of them blend it the group and can make themselves shine
@@Anjan_- ikr she dosent stick out or look odd she mixes perfectly
i dont think people in the comments are hating on her…? its just their honest opinions without being disrespectful. i dont think there’s exactly a way to sugarcoat saying someone isnt the best dancer in a group ☠️ they arent hating on her. relax
@@cowuie i saw the comments thats why i wote it😭
@@bunkookiefanfics7155 ik and im saying its just their honest opinions. ppl can love kazuha and still agree that she isnt the best dancer in the group
Those who keeps hating on Sakura for getting no.1, definitely never watched her fancams lol
Even their choreography director has said Sakura is the one improved the most, and she made best decision when she put sakura as center in their HYDRA performance
I noticed how much Sakura improved in Iz*one during the SSOTS era but then girlie comeback in a new group with even more improvements yet some people still calling her a bad dancer? She’s not an expert but the hard work and improvement are literally in your face.
Im so proud of Sakura I’ve been a fan since hkt
Omg finally noticed Sakura's dance
Kazuha is a classical dancer which has a lot of restrictions and certain things you can't do in ballet bc it would not be considered elegant and pretty. She still is an amazing dancer but her idol type dancing is different and lacks a little bit from her ballet dancing, but she is improving and she is getting better every time.
I'm saying all of this from a professional dancer point of view since I've been dancing for 15 years in ballet, contemporary, jazz, and hip hop. So plz don't take this too seriously, I mean this all out of love
Slayy, so proud of kkuraa>>>>
Ppl needs to start appreciating sakura she rlly do dance well
Wow, as someone who doesn’t know much about dancing, I would’ve thought all of the girls would place tier 6. Shows you how much they practice and work on their performances for them to look this amazing on stage
y'll gotta admit that Kazuha is a overhyped, she's praised for her sp & dance sm but honestly she isn't even that good in both 💀 like let my girl improve first-
nah i think her sp is good (top 3 in lsrfm for me) but for dance yeah i agree she needs to catch up w her members
she IS good in dance. just not the idol dance y’all think of. ballet is a style as well and everyone likes to say being a ballerina doesn’t mean you’re a good dancer, but for kazuha it does. she’s an extremely proficient ballerina but not a standout idol dancer.
even lf she mid she still the best ballet dance in kpop
@@salutcmoa404...and the only professional one
@@loliithaay agreed
hope this video helps fans realize that being a ballerina does not automatically make someone a main dancer, kpop dance and ballet are two different dance styles.
Sakura's dancing skills are definitely top tier
I didn't know they were weak dancers but while watching their performance they really look like great dancers.
It’s bc they have amazing sp
Reminder, Good Dancer =/= Best Performer
Well the top 3 are average lead dancers as I've heard from kddd since they're high tier 7
@@xxmoonlightxx5742 you don't know😂
I totally agree with you . I was so tired of people saying that Sakura was a mid dancer . She is the best in Le sserafim.
Could you to make videos (dance analysis) of less talked about groups like Purple Kiss, fromis_9, Lightsum or WEEEKLY?
All of them have so much potential in dance I hope they improve!
bro this is so underrated. no one notices sakura's dance skill. everyone just calls her "only visual" but no one is talking abt HOW MUCH SHE IMPROVED!!
For me yunjin is the best dancer in le sserafim in every dance practice she stands out the most even I've also seen some dancers praising her
I agree with you
Agree with OP's opinion. People need to stop looking at Sakura’s dance skills for only AKB48 or izone days. The best 3 dancers are Sakura, Chaewon and Yunjin. Even Chaewon told that Eunchae and Kazuha missed some dance steps when she monitored the dance isolation by the group fancam.
Their dance line is so overhyped, I have literally seen people saying they have better dance line than nmixx and new jeans💀
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And when you explain to them why nj and nmixx are better they say “it’s my op😭”or “have you seen them dance their def better then them” with no explanation
Ikrrr
literally i thought that they have the best dance line as i heard it many times from fans, literally i have to thank this channel
they're literally weak in everything, vocals, dance, rap, they got nothing 😭
everyone is like Le Sserafim is the best when it comes to dnace in 4th gen gg! but then there is New Jeans, Nmixx, and Kepler-
NOT saying that they r bad dnacers, but when it comes to open style, there r groups who excel at that more.
Finally someone saw Sakura's potential ❤
I'm not a dance expert but Zuha herself has mentioned more than once before how even if she was to become a pro ballet dancer it wasn't the same to be a kpop dancer since the styles are different, the good thing is their team performance are using her abilities as a ballet dancer and implement it in the choreography.
Eunchae is still young so that would explain how sometimes she doesn't have a full control of her body and movements, but she trained in dance since she was young so she can improve more.
About Kkura, Chaewon and Yunjin they have the experience and have been practicing for years now, Yunjin had the longest training among all the members.
Unpopular opinion- people excelling in ballet shouldn't be given a main dancer position because ballet and idol dancing are two very different dancing styles (eg- Mina and Kazuha). Kpop fans need to understand that begin ballerina doesn't mean you are good/best dancer. It pisses me off to see how much people underestimate Sakura :
A lot of people fail to realize that she has had such a huge improvement
As a dancer also, I kind of disagree with the top 2. For me Chaewon is a very great dancer better then Sakura.Chaewon has more of a core control then Sakura and she has more body control then Sakura. And the op put Kazuha in the last because I think that Kazuha has a ballet background. When we talk about dance there are many different types of dances and each have their own styles and techniques. For example Kazuha in the field of ballet has a great sence and is very good but since kpop lean towards more of a hip hop and modern dance which is different from ballet and she only train for 3 months thats why compared to her other members her core is weak. And for Chaewon and Sakura, they have the experience of being on stage before and they know what they are strong and weak at and they can make their strong point to their advantages, to be a great dancer don't mean being flexible or sharp moves it also about the strategy and techique of the dancer. I don't know what type of dance does the OP do, but I think they are a hip hop or bboying dancer because they lean more towards that type of dances from their explation. And hip hop and ballet are very different from each other, ballet dancers are train to be elegent, beautiful, classy and each of their moves tell a story. I am a modern and chinoiserie dancer and my type of dancing lean towards that of Kazuha since we have similar background.
I didn’t really follow Izone so I thought Sakura has always been THIS GOOD and didn’t understand the hate at all. I guess most people are still biased. Nice to hear that even a real dancer confirms that Sakura is a good dancer.
When all the explanations get over your head 👁️👄👁️
Wow nice to see someone who appreciates Sakura's dancing skills😊💞💞💞
i felt like this is the reason why they still didn't have main dancer position, this ranking somehow changing esp if we watched lots of their performance
Sakura is super duper improve her talent, you can see by yourself by her dance move. Even her dance teacher also said that she was improve a lot. She just lack in vocal only but not in dance. If she could be center, you can see her improvement tho:(
Le sserafim as a dancers (in my opinion)
1.Chaewon
2.Sakura
3.Yunjin
4.Kazuha
5.Eunchae
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I am in awe realizing that Sakura did improve so much. Some Jpop idols have this very distinct dance style that looked so off for me (even if I'm not a dancer myself). You could see that in Sakura when she was with AKB and then she improved so much during her Izone days but wasn't really that eye-catching. Now with Lesserafim, oh my what a progress indeed. Her dedication and hardwork is very evident. I am so happy for Sakura to be recognized like this.
And to think this is only the beginning of Sakuras improvements in Les Sserafim. She will go on to be the best 4th gen main dancer. Mark my words
I understand that being a ballerina doesn’t automatically make Kazuha the best at dancing but even then she’s pretty good with a lot of their dances. She had great footwork in Blue Flame.
Sakura !!🔥🔥
Unpopular Opinion: People need to shut theyre mouth saying zuha is main dancer material. Like I get it she's a ballerina but that is not a valid reason to call her a "Main Dancer Material" and yall defending her that she has the shortest period of training but accept it that Yunjin/Chaewon are better than her. Heck, even Sakura is. She is not in her PD48 days. Girly improved. If she got proper training, girly couldve excelled in the dance category.
I think i like Chaewon's dancing more. Absolutely no hate to Sakura ( She is an absolute queen ) But i just really like Chaewon's dancing skills and especially in the Anti-fragile era which she owned ❤️
eunchae's dancing is my favourite to watch! she's so bouncy and light in her moves
Never knew there were dance tiers💀💀
Now you know.
Ikr?? 💀💀 how can you even do tiers for dance and these descriptions are wacky asf. They miss out so many info like Eunchae's musicality, Sakura's arm strength and Chaewon's efficiency. Also, why are there so many terms such as foundations, dynamics, popping, isolation & technique all grouped together in such a messy manner? It's so weird. There's also the fact that some of these kpop idols are stylistic dancers so they can't really be judged based on technique. Idk why kpop stans follow these tiers religiously, it feels so fake.
I think they're soooo good in coordination nd energy,But I think they should in future, making the main dancer has a dance break or something wich makes her noticeable or tell more abt her story of dancing trough the years
i honestly was surprised when i saw sakura debuted in le sserafim because she dance so good!!! i was not a fan of izone nor kkura but now i love this group & kkura esp so much because i remembered her in pd48, she was obviously not technically good but she have shown immense improvements in this group. absolutely somethin to admire. just that i always see her as someone who doesnt want to overshadow the other members like she love to bring the other members forward if she could. thts y i love her more
I'm convinced this channel wants to gain popularity due to the shock factor because no way in FUCK
gurl. this ranking is REAL LMFAO. are u not aware of open style ranking?
Sakura definitely deserves it❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
i never expected lessarfim to be this low in dancing 👄
Ultimately I think a lot of ppl misunderstand the fact that ballet and dancing (K-pop) is different. They might be flexible and able to move their body more but that doesn’t mean they have the groove, or best technique. Although there are prob a lot of ballerinas that also excel in such dance.
Peoples used to remember Sakura when she was still in Izone. If you look at her now you’ll notice that her dance skill became so good.
Pied Piper in the intro>>>>>
I don't think Kazuha is the worst dancer of the group tho, and yes I know that even if someone is a ballet dancer it doesn't mean they are the best but i think Eunchae would be the last one tho. Just my opinion
Queen sakura ❤️
The reason KAZUHA catches a lot of attention is because of her synergy when she dances. She is honestly one of my fave dancers in the group tbh.
Imo, eunchae and kazuha are really close and i wouldn't say that sakura is first, she messes up and shortcuts moves A LOT which kinda brings her down, especially in her iz*one years (look at SSOTS dance break and you can tell)
Unforgiven dance practice shes her dancing ia top notch above them
Well obviously, Sakura never received proper dance training in her life before Source Music. But Sakura being this high is impressive
Iz*one days are gone
Sakura could be the main dancer!? She's amazing
Sakura is definitely the best dancer in le sserafim
No Chaewon is
Yes, she is🌸
kkura and chaewon were izone members,and they improved a lot since then so makes sense
Look, kazuha are main dancer but she's the last, idk why ppl always forgot sakura dance
And some people say chaewon is a better dancer than Hanni...
The whole njs can beat cheawon in dance
@@nevergonnagiveyouupnevergo972☠️
@@nevergonnagiveyouupnevergo972 no
@@nevergonnagiveyouupnevergo972 yes lmaoo
:o I never knew Sakura is the best dancer in le sserafim!
Looking at Kazuha’s dance (don’t get me wrong she’s a great dancer) I was shocked learning she’s the main dancer because compared to Chaewon and Sakura her dance is really nothing special except for her flexibility and plus Kazuha does not have a fitting dance style for K-Pop though she would make elegant songs look amazing
She was never the "main dancer" they don't have roles in LE SSERAFIM I don't know why you guys keep saying thins
lesserafim all members are best dancers ..but Sakura ,cheawon and yunjin have something ...
Now fearnot and netizen can stop underestimate sakura and saying kazuha is the best. That's not true...
In reality kazuha last and sakura first in term idol dance and open style.
I don't hate kazuha but I feel so annoying when fearnot/netizen said sakura last and kazuha is the best because she's a professional ballet🙄. Ballet and idol dancing is two different things! Being good or professional in ballet doesn't mean she good in idol dance.
Now please treat sakura as main dancer and chaewon as lead dancer❤️.
Honestly, for me, Chaewon first sakura second
@@fimsical_chaewon, sakura and yunjin are pretty much interchangeable, they're on very similar level
@@fimsical_
This is fact not opinion. Sakura is better dancer than chaewon
@@Ryurioleochan that is my opinion and your probably biased
@@Ryurioleochan do you know what is “probably”
I 100 percent agree with your ranking
So Chaewon is the lead dancer and Sakura is the main dancer. .. but why Kazuha is the main dancer though, just bcz she's a ballerina???
Guys why do you underestimate Sakura so much 😢, she has great technique, isolations and she is ranked 1 in open style dancing , stage presence, flexibility ≠ great dancing
Tbh I just see people who will always be better at dancing than me 🤣
This was amazing tho. Always highly anticipate these breakdowns. Afaik haven’t seen an IVE analysis, would be waiting for that now to complete the big gg debuts of 2022
They're not worth of being ranked and analyzed. Tiers don't really exist but here are my sentiments:
Gaeul: High Tier 7
Yujin: High Tier 7
Rei: Mid Tier 7
Liz: Mid Tier 7
Leeseo: Low Tier 7
Wonyoung: Low Tier 7
@@potathottwit7604 i would guess that's how it probably is, but i'm also more curious about the actual explanations for the tiering and analysis of each member's technique
i noticed that lesserafim are average dancers some of them are still stiff, and I've watch their fancams you could really notice, they have good energy and balance that's why they look amazing when dancing, but in real life i noticed that their skills and dancing must be practiced more,
also in lesserafim i think chaewon dances best tho she's a little stiff actually all of them, chaewon has the best balance, sakura is still stiff but compared to her in izone she improves so much, why doesn't anybody sees that?? yunjin doesn't really like dancing she said that before I'm glad she's improved a lot ever since being in pd48 she's still not that good a dancing since you could see her lacking but so far she had a great improvement, as for kazuha it's normal for her to be flexible since she's a ballerina however i noticed that she still lack in dancing, like in isolations she had good torso control tho that's a must because she's a ballerina and her balance is outstanding, and lastly eunchae i noticed how stiff she was sometimes she doesn't have a good torso control but I'm amazed how well she performs,
i want people to see that idols have weaknesses too, not because you see them dancing well means their a good dancer because off cam they cried in order to be what they are right now, i stated some of their weaknesses when watching don't just watch, observe also.