Haven't seen these before. Thanks for the video. I need a new mousse in a rear tire in May(just maintenance), will be looking for future BALL content :)
I've ridden tubliss, HD tubes, and mouse - I prefer rear mouse and front tubliss. The rear tubliss is a very very close second to mouse. Having said that, I would try this in the rear but the front for lightness, and the feel of tubliss can't be beat. And you say you can still get a flat with tubliss, yes, but you can ride with it flat for the entire day and no issues and it doesn't feel flat. You can also just plug it on the trail if you get a flat on that one millionth ride where you get a flat with tubliss, haha.
All true unless the inner tube of the tubliss fails (I’ve seen it). But if it works for you that is the important part. Don’t listen to a guy on the internet (😂🤣). But these are a lot lighter than a mouse which is super cool.
Three years into one Tubliss set. Ran over a sawed off metal fence post during a race and my tire was ripped open. Finished the lap, and ran two more sets on a fully flat front. As stated, as long as the inner holds you are good. I run Tubliss, but this looks interesting. I like the idea of a mousse because you can gauge the wear. With Tubliss you either hold air or one day you don't.
Can i put them in to my adventure tubeless tires in order to avoid a flat tire? (Im going to have air pressure inside and if a tire goes flat i will have them as a backup)
@highlandcycles The idea is to have 30-32 psi in order to not load the tire and the Mousse balls on road and then in offroad you can reduce the pressure, how this sounds? ((Of course my bike is a CFMOTO 450MT with tubeless rims and light and not an 1290 KTM that is heavy with very big load in tires)
To keep the wheel from spinning in the tire. When mousses get soft (good traction) the wheel can spin and you don’t go forward or stop (depending on front or rear)
@@highlandcycles I typically run 2 rim locks in my rear with a nitro mousse. Looks like you are using one with the balls. I tried my best at a clear shot of the wheel but if you could confirm you only use one rim lock , yes?
The moose stuff it's cool but it's more of a pain for me! I for over 40 years and Florida HS and Enduro and Little MX for fun. Learned run heavy duty tubes and 14 lbs pressure in front and rear very rare have a flat! Yes sometimes a little loose but it's ok! BTW 3 championships 2 in A-500 and year end A Highpoint on CR500. But like your videos
Only use Murphy's if you live somewhere dry. It's water soluble and the lubrication goes away pretty fast when riding in the wet. (I live north of Seattle by the border)
@samchesnut5190 if used them in the desert but the last couple summers in the Mtns of Wyoming and Idaho without a hitch. It actually seems a little water can help as the heat can dry the soap at time
@@samchesnut5190 Water shouldn't be flowing within your tire enough to wash anything out...LOL I hear people say this and it's like that is impossible unless you leave the rim/tire in a river and walk away. I have never opened up a tire and found water.
@@Meekerextreme We drill our mousses and run them pretty soft up here. It only takes 3-4 rides for the tire soap to be gone out of the tire. Some of the trails are super wet, especially in the winter. I imagine a desert rider with a firm mousse would fair better for keeping the soap in. I wish it worked for us as it is way cheaper.
@@highlandcycles tire balls, sorry wasn’t clear. Chasing those bastards all over the shop..we used to change 6 tires worth at a time..like popcorn popping out of the tire..
I was thinking maybe brushing lube on the inside of the tire then brush some on the ends of the segments . Just trying to keep the mess down but there may be no neat way. Great video.
It doesn’t say anything but my guess is that it would be good. But I run nitros in all my wheels (til now) and I don’t put my bikes on stands. They get a little flat spot but it goes away when you ride. I don’t worry about it.
why do you not like tubless? i have been running tubless for over 8 years with no problems except 1 install out of 8. I have yet to try mouses so i'm not sure the difference in riding capabilities!
For me it’s not that they don’t work it that there is still a potential for a flat. I like to completely remove the possibility if I can. Also, around here (lots of sharp rocks) I have ridden with so many people that get flats with tubliss. But if it works for you that is awesome.
Stoked on these... Cost compared to Nitro hurts...Interested to see how long they last, and whether you really can just cram a few new ones in there to bring it back around.
I am excited to try them. I know that with a normal mousse I just chop a little bit out of an old one to bulk up a worn out one. I am hearing really good things from fast guys about these.
How many did you install for front and rear? Curious as I weigh 235 without gear and will be install mine over the holidays. Just trying to gauge what to start with.
@@highlandcycles thx. When you did the front, was there just a little space(like 1/8") left between each ball once installed with 2 left out? That's how mine were but I ended up with just one left out. Thinking my box only came with 26 balls not 27, just trying to make sure I have 25 in there without removing the tire.
seems to be an interesting but expensive product, I hope all is well. why don't you cut the air valve of an old tube and put it on the rim, with the perfect air to hit the tire and great to cover the hole, before tightening the rim lock. Good video 👏👏👏👏👏
I change tires so often that I don’t worry about stuff getting in and if the bead doesn’t seat with the mousse or balls, it’s time to replace or line with a tube for me. I like them firm so they don’t roll. And as far as money, they are only 45 more than a normal mousse. If they last as long as they claim it will make sense.
That is a good question. But I would imagine if you are running 2 or 3 rim locks (for hard enduro) then You will probably be running less balls (for more traction) so you could move them to line up.
what do they weigh, whatever amount of them to fill a rear 18... could you weigh them? Compared to nitro and michelin when you do you follow up please. Many of us who run mousses care.
@@richardhartley1705 don’t think so. Haven’t ridden them yet but the bead seated without assistance so it should be good. That is kinda my unofficial test.
I do love my Tubliss. Since I ride such varying terrain it works better for me that Mousse. These might be a good option since you can adjust the feel. I do my own installs. Do you think they install easier than a standard Mousse?
@@kevinvesey5263 Oh man, I didn't realize that. I always thought it was Dudley Do_right who was high and riding the moose backward, turns out the moose is high and walking the wrong direction! fuck me running I stand corrected! lol. Much love for our brothas to the north, and their moose girlfriends.
Never been a big fan of these. I have been running a flat proof in my tires since the 70s and honestly have never had a flat. Today its called slime back in the day it was flat proof. Just feel you have better control of tire pressure and slime is way cheaper
I have been running these now for about 5 months due to this video and I love them...
Awesome
Do you happen to remember how heavy or light they are? I want to avoid adding unnecessary weight
Finally a reputable install and review coming. They've been amping up the advertising on these things for sure. Looks great so far 🥳
New fav channel. Glad it was restored. Thanks for the content!
Thank you
...harvested in Alaska, lol! I am excited to see your ride/review and how they feel.
Coming soon!
Cool product! Alway good to have options. I really like the Nitro mousse though, been running one in front for 70hrs and it still looks like new
is that an xtrainer in the background? what do you think about those? i've been considering one...
Yep. They are cool. The limiting factor on them is the suspension b
can I use mousse balls on a kenda 26x4 fat tire ebike that goes 40mph ? If so what size do I order ?
Can't wait to see the review on them. Those look much easier to install, and more serviceable.
They are!
Looking forward to the review. Great install vid.
I wanna try putting a mousse in my EUC
Haven't seen these before.
Thanks for the video.
I need a new mousse in a rear tire in May(just maintenance), will be looking for future BALL content :)
Hahahah
Is it rated for highway speed? What about road rather then trail?
Not good for road
I've ridden tubliss, HD tubes, and mouse - I prefer rear mouse and front tubliss. The rear tubliss is a very very close second to mouse. Having said that, I would try this in the rear but the front for lightness, and the feel of tubliss can't be beat. And you say you can still get a flat with tubliss, yes, but you can ride with it flat for the entire day and no issues and it doesn't feel flat. You can also just plug it on the trail if you get a flat on that one millionth ride where you get a flat with tubliss, haha.
If the tublis inner bladder fails your'e screwed.
All true unless the inner tube of the tubliss fails (I’ve seen it). But if it works for you that is the important part. Don’t listen to a guy on the internet (😂🤣). But these are a lot lighter than a mouse which is super cool.
That’s the opposite of what most people who use one of each do 🤔🤷♂️
@@The1jball I thought that too. But whatever works I guess
Three years into one Tubliss set. Ran over a sawed off metal fence post during a race and my tire was ripped open. Finished the lap, and ran two more sets on a fully flat front. As stated, as long as the inner holds you are good. I run Tubliss, but this looks interesting. I like the idea of a mousse because you can gauge the wear. With Tubliss you either hold air or one day you don't.
Curious about weight, how much heavier are they versus tube+air and will it affect handling at all?
They are lighter than other mousses. Little heavier than light tubes.
Can i put them in to my adventure tubeless tires in order to avoid a flat tire? (Im going to have air pressure inside and if a tire goes flat i will have them as a backup)
You could but they don’t hold up great to heat which you get a lot of with adv bikes and higher speeds.
@highlandcycles The idea is to have 30-32 psi in order to not load the tire and the Mousse balls on road and then in offroad you can reduce the pressure, how this sounds? ((Of course my bike is a CFMOTO 450MT with tubeless rims and light and not an 1290 KTM that is heavy with very big load in tires)
@@qtechgr Might be great! I think it is worth a try
Curious. The reason for the rim lock is to prevent the tire spinning and ripping out the inner tube valve. No inner tube...why have the rim locks?
To keep the wheel from spinning in the tire. When mousses get soft (good traction) the wheel can spin and you don’t go forward or stop (depending on front or rear)
@@highlandcycles I typically run 2 rim locks in my rear with a nitro mousse. Looks like you are using one with the balls. I tried my best at a clear shot of the wheel but if you could confirm you only use one rim lock , yes?
@@kneedragger29 yes. Just one
The moose stuff it's cool but it's more of a pain for me! I for over 40 years and Florida HS and Enduro and Little MX for fun. Learned run heavy duty tubes and 14 lbs pressure in front and rear very rare have a flat! Yes sometimes a little loose but it's ok! BTW 3 championships 2 in A-500 and year end A Highpoint on CR500. But like your videos
No problem with HD tubes. We have nasty sharp rocks here so I like mousses
@@highlandcycles We also have Cactus too in areas, don't forget about the cactus
I use Murphys tire and tube soap on my nitro mousse. I'm curious how these can perform compared to the nitro.
Me too
Only use Murphy's if you live somewhere dry. It's water soluble and the lubrication goes away pretty fast when riding in the wet. (I live north of Seattle by the border)
@samchesnut5190 if used them in the desert but the last couple summers in the Mtns of Wyoming and Idaho without a hitch. It actually seems a little water can help as the heat can dry the soap at time
@@samchesnut5190 Water shouldn't be flowing within your tire enough to wash anything out...LOL I hear people say this and it's like that is impossible unless you leave the rim/tire in a river and walk away. I have never opened up a tire and found water.
@@Meekerextreme We drill our mousses and run them pretty soft up here. It only takes 3-4 rides for the tire soap to be gone out of the tire. Some of the trails are super wet, especially in the winter. I imagine a desert rider with a firm mousse would fair better for keeping the soap in. I wish it worked for us as it is way cheaper.
Im a bit late to the party, but im just curious how heavy they are? I want to avoid adding unnecessary weight
They are about 15% lighter than a normal mousse
Do they hold up to "HighSpeed Heat" any better?
They seem too but I haven't had them on a dual sport yet
Will these work with a 120 rear tire
Yes
Reminds me of tire balls , remember those things . They where better than a tube but super labor intensive.
I remember them. I actually have a hilarious story about them. I’ll try to remember to tell it in a Shlog
Oh my, myself and BPD guys used to run them..those things would come flying out of the tire at the most inopportune time during mounting..
Mousse balls or tire balls?
@@highlandcycles tire balls, sorry wasn’t clear. Chasing those bastards all over the shop..we used to change 6 tires worth at a time..like popcorn popping out of the tire..
Looking forward to a review
Coming soon
That Beta in the background is sick
Michelin are like $140, which is my go to, but these have me intrigued, as with all mousse it comes down to lubrication to get longevity
Yep. I am hearing fast guys getting over 60. hrs
I was thinking maybe brushing lube on the inside of the tire then brush some on the ends of the segments . Just trying to keep the mess down but there may be no neat way. Great video.
It's not bad really.
I have to ask, do they require you to keep your bike on a stand like nitromousse to avoid flat spots developing?
It doesn’t say anything but my guess is that it would be good. But I run nitros in all my wheels (til now) and I don’t put my bikes on stands. They get a little flat spot but it goes away when you ride. I don’t worry about it.
why do you not like tubless? i have been running tubless for over 8 years with no problems except 1 install out of 8. I have yet to try mouses so i'm not sure the difference in riding capabilities!
For me it’s not that they don’t work it that there is still a potential for a flat. I like to completely remove the possibility if I can. Also, around here (lots of sharp rocks) I have ridden with so many people that get flats with tubliss. But if it works for you that is awesome.
Stoked on these... Cost compared to Nitro hurts...Interested to see how long they last, and whether you really can just cram a few new ones in there to bring it back around.
I am excited to try them. I know that with a normal mousse I just chop a little bit out of an old one to bulk up a worn out one. I am hearing really good things from fast guys about these.
What's the story on the Beta?
Jetting it
How many did you install for front and rear? Curious as I weigh 235 without gear and will be install mine over the holidays. Just trying to gauge what to start with.
I did all but 2 in both tires. Not sure how many that is. Didn’t count
@@highlandcycles thx. When you did the front, was there just a little space(like 1/8") left between each ball once installed with 2 left out? That's how mine were but I ended up with just one left out. Thinking my box only came with 26 balls not 27, just trying to make sure I have 25 in there without removing the tire.
for all those guys out there who's wives stole theirs... now you can buy them back... in different sizes! awesome!
Hahahahaha
🔥be a ruff ride with moose balls in the tires lol , squirrel nuts be ntb tho 🔥👊🔥🔨🏍⚙️
Haha I knew this would be coming 🐿️
@@casmitherz 😂😂🤣
Hahahaha
Testosterone is gonna be flowing on your first ride! Lol
seems to be an interesting but expensive product, I hope all is well. why don't you cut the air valve of an old tube and put it on the rim, with the perfect air to hit the tire and great to cover the hole, before tightening the rim lock. Good video 👏👏👏👏👏
I change tires so often that I don’t worry about stuff getting in and if the bead doesn’t seat with the mousse or balls, it’s time to replace or line with a tube for me. I like them firm so they don’t roll. And as far as money, they are only 45 more than a normal mousse. If they last as long as they claim it will make sense.
You should start weighing the finished tires/wheels. I wonder if they weigh less than my nitros.
They are about a pound less than nitro
What if the balls don't line up with a second rim lock?
That is a good question. But I would imagine if you are running 2 or 3 rim locks (for hard enduro) then You will probably be running less balls (for more traction) so you could move them to line up.
Cut the used mousse into mousse balls and re-use them again? Anyone has tried it?
Oh yeah. We have used wedges of mousses a ton
what do they weigh, whatever amount of them to fill a rear 18... could you weigh them? Compared to nitro and michelin when you do you follow up please. Many of us who run mousses care.
They are about 1 lb lighter than a nitro and around .5lb lighter than a michelin
They look a lot easier to fit than a standard moose👍
They are
@@highlandcycles Tyre not too squishy then?
@@richardhartley1705 don’t think so. Haven’t ridden them yet but the bead seated without assistance so it should be good. That is kinda my unofficial test.
@@highlandcycles well if Bead seals that’s says a lot some moose’s can be a pig to seal 👍
A good intro song would have been AC/DC Big Balls song!
Oh yeah!!
TUBliss is still the best system with NO issues.
Hahahahah
I do love my Tubliss. Since I ride such varying terrain it works better for me that Mousse. These might be a good option since you can adjust the feel. I do my own installs. Do you think they install easier than a standard Mousse?
I Think they were easier for sure.
I need these, lost mine in a purse somewhere.
Bahahahaha
Don't need a rim lock on the front when using a mousse!!!
He said jam balls in there. lol...
YES!!!
I don’t know whether this is wise but I trust you more because you have a chain wallet and are from CO
😂🤣
As long as they’re American moose balls and not those lazy Canadian moose balls.
Hehehehe
Canadian moose aren’t lazy… they’re just high af. I ride with plenty of them.
@@kevinvesey5263 Oh man, I didn't realize that. I always thought it was Dudley Do_right who was high and riding the moose backward, turns out the moose is high and walking the wrong direction! fuck me running I stand corrected! lol. Much love for our brothas to the north, and their moose girlfriends.
Never been a big fan of these. I have been running a flat proof in my tires since the 70s and honestly have never had a flat. Today its called slime back in the day it was flat proof. Just feel you have better control of tire pressure and slime is way cheaper
@@holmes1956O it will be interesting to see how they do.
INSTRCTIONS PFFFF!!!!!!!!!!!
Hahahaha! Agree
"Replace them as they wear"?
Unless one is obviously damaged I don't know how that'd work🤔😆
Moose are a-holes.
You can tell he is hardcore by the wallet chain
Hahaha, used to be. Just never left the chain behind.
Whatever lol 😂
LOVE your screen name !