they're the best. naisou is currently the best caster in mpl ph since manjean is now out and mirko has been the best caster in mpl id. mirko is like tobiwan of mobile legends
Fr, imagine dedicating to win and yet being picked as one of the representatives for the country for once in a lifetime event, but ended up in this lol
Reminds me of the time Execration pushed their way to Omega's base without minions back in MPL PH s7 when bane was overbuffed and malefic roar made attacks deal extra damage to turrets and faramis revived teammates instead of giving them protection
Nothing's broken, Mirko might have missed it, but the holy defense thingy(the pulse wave that kills minion in the inhibitors)did activate, it's just that they proc it earlier before the final push
@@Mugetsu-xf8tn every moba turret is prioty, you lucky this is not dota, in dota we can control creep and hide the creep when enemy focus on something we all tp on the creep and push xD to get megacreep
@@Mugetsu-xf8tnyou probably dont play dota so you wont know about BOT(boots of travel). But still i dont know if its still there, havent played dota for a long time now
For those sour grapes, it's a double edged sword play. If they lost, they'd be laughing stock. I know something similar was used, but i believe thats was the bane glitch on towers, which this patch do not have. Give credit when due.
You miss out zia vc with hoon. They did it because opponent is legend rank. Even if they lose either of the games, they can revert back to normal pick.
I doubt they'd become a laughing stock, sure they could have lost but people would still be praising them for having the balls to try a new strategy that is "funny".
@@Snailblazermrkl I don't care who they are or what ranks they are or how long they've played this game brother, I'm enjoying this for the fun of it. I know it's not practical in world tournament and against hardcore professional teams, but that's not the point brooo! The point is to enjoy it sonnnn commonnn mann💯
That strat has been circling in the PH rank queue before specially in the epic rank and above. Maybe they are practicing in the PH server and got defeated by this strategy but trying it in the competitive scene is so brave. They are lucky that the opposing team doesn't know how to counter it.
dude, you dont have to use the same strategy in all matches. Team USA mixed it up by changing strategies to keep their opponents guessing. that's how you win is by becoming formless like water
oh this strategy was used a lot in Hyper mode where everyone automatically gets arrival spell. You use it to protect turrets and base but I have never seen it used like this before. Very damn good of team usa
This strategy existed long ago and also was used in one of the competitive games . It was a game when faramis first arrived and bane had insane turent damage
USA prob learned that strategy when playing in Ph server, some Ph teams basically do that to actually increase their winrates in games. It's a double edged strategy, if you prolong it to atleast 10 minutes, you'd lose since that strategy delays the levels and items.
im sure there are lots of strategies to use. Problem is that I wish there was no banned and that all heroes can be selected. We would be able to see more strategies and game plays that can really bring excitement to these pro tournaments. Watching USA using all retribution and all arrivals really brought some excitement back. In those other pro matches, its so boring to watch since the action starts to really pick up at the 10 minute mark. With these 2 matches, the actions picked up right away!!!
We don't have the funds bro, no coaches either. Everything is going to SA, that's where the world class players are, where the funds are going. I'm surprised BTK made second in M4 a few years back.
This is also the same as bane+selena+framis combo, also you can associate it with the diggie strat where someone, usually diggie will fed them and pul their aggro and attention, neglecting objectives.
Is Basic playing? Because if he is, he's definitely the mastermind. I've seen him do this here in MPL PH 3 times. I remember the 5 man flameshot the most.
If the exp lane is not xborg the game might be different. What make usa win is the GLP draft is late game focus not early game focus. hanabi and xborg so the side Lane in early is partically dead. This Strat won't work when faced with enemy that have the knowledge about draft
I had had a match where four enemies (not marksman though) just kept on destroying my gold lane and they actually won just like that. Meanwhile, the fifth one (a Ling) just tried his best to burst and pick us all one by one. It was absolutely terrible.
bane melting the turret without minion in ph before and forced moonton to make adjustment by reducing damage dealt to turret without minion and now all arrival strat using hero that can melt the turret recreating the turret melting strat in this patch
Poor play from the enemy lol. Should've grouped as soon as they all Tp'd cuz their entire comp revolves around getting turret and ending as fast as they can. If you drag and deny their push, they suck early and lategame. With 3 MM and estes, anti heal would wipe em. They're all just 1 shot squishy with high dps. If in lategame they 5 man teleport, 4 ppl can just defend and 1 push for end. So if they lost early game, its gg go next.
@@Usernamei6549 lol, NA fanboys got triggered. Take a chill pill nubs. Lemme explain so that people of your level of comprehension can understand, ayt? I was replying to the caption of the video insinuating that NA team broke the game. Comprende?
Thats i abuse it using early argus backdoor ss and argus now is so freaking bug with hes ss when you used argus ulti backdoor tower the tower wont block the dmg from argus passive that came from hes ulti
Not really, as MLBB intended to be a fast paced game. Making it bigger will make the game longer, which is not what Moonton aimed to do. Plus, this strategy won't work against among the best teams like most PH teams or SRG
That XBorg used ult then flashed after it exploded. Like WTF This only works because of how bad the other team is. Aamon could have one shot everyone after the 4 minute free farm mark.
Imagine the opponents mental trauma....they should have analyse the opponents draft properly and make a moves accordingly. They not only toyed with them but literally destroyed the opponents gaming spirit🗿
you're a dumbazz dude. even top teams can be defeated with this strategy. Having a strategy like this one helps mix up your game play so that you dont use the same strategy every fudging match. Only in solo rank would it work all the time since solo players are clueless at strategy.
probably it will not work against strong team. I only see that strat in lower rank games, I am solo ranking when I encounter a team mate who suggested we pick mages back then and all flameshot pretty fun game, our opposite team suggested their going to report us for cheating haha..
This is what's lacking in PH tbh. Enjoying the game and exploting new strats. I like NA now bc of this. Plus we get the bonus of watching history happen. This was like the fountain hook dendi did back then. Or maybe the rat strat alliance did Good job guys.
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These two casters made it even better and interesting
they're the best. naisou is currently the best caster in mpl ph since manjean is now out and mirko has been the best caster in mpl id. mirko is like tobiwan of mobile legends
These NA guys always have something interesting cooking 😂 it was awesome seeing casters Genuinely laughing and Enjoying game.
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It just shows the game was unbalanced
I'd be so mad if I lost in iesf like that
Fr it's just casual bullying
Fr, imagine dedicating to win and yet being picked as one of the representatives for the country for once in a lifetime event, but ended up in this lol
Stupid draft with retarded meta like this pick strong CC hero as much as you can and strong early they clearly don't fknow how to draft pick.
Mobazane: ez server like Malaysia
@@warenjungkook7968he can't do anything to me
I can hear hoon laughing whole match 😂
I think its hoon strategy 😅
@itshemoo3664 yes he said that they were planning to go either all flameshot or arrival
Saying "Masarap!" After every laugh
The usa voice chat must be going insane 😂😂😂
Apparently they played poker, and the loser gets to be estes.
@@Snailblazermrklhahah
@@Snailblazermrkl LMAOO
@@Snailblazermrklreally?
Your mvp is kimchi man and his KDA is 1/2/3 😂
So what who care's about kill and assist if you are a loser?
Bruh what ru mad abt he's just saying@@CerChrizZz
He means that KDA means nothing when your team loses @@albertfelicidario1458
@@CerChrizZz He won. Do u have a functioning brain or not?
score is not important
Reminds me of the time Execration pushed their way to Omega's base without minions back in MPL PH s7 when bane was overbuffed and malefic roar made attacks deal extra damage to turrets and faramis revived teammates instead of giving them protection
Yeah I remember that Bane faramis selena
Did they have selena too? I saw someone using the traps to arrival once
Just like rafflesia on his diggie feed
Nothing's broken, Mirko might have missed it, but the holy defense thingy(the pulse wave that kills minion in the inhibitors)did activate, it's just that they proc it earlier before the final push
This is not Moonton abuse. If you play enough DOTA 2. This is basic turret pushing. 🎉
Agree
but there is no such thing as arrival in dota 2 tho
@@Mugetsu-xf8tn every moba turret is prioty, you lucky this is not dota, in dota we can control creep and hide the creep when enemy focus on something we all tp on the creep and push xD to get megacreep
@@Mugetsu-xf8tnyou probably dont play dota so you wont know about BOT(boots of travel). But still i dont know if its still there, havent played dota for a long time now
it even existed already on DOTA 1
For those sour grapes, it's a double edged sword play. If they lost, they'd be laughing stock. I know something similar was used, but i believe thats was the bane glitch on towers, which this patch do not have. Give credit when due.
You miss out zia vc with hoon. They did it because opponent is legend rank. Even if they lose either of the games, they can revert back to normal pick.
Bane and Selena combo
hanabi still cooking for next match😂😂😂
I doubt they'd become a laughing stock, sure they could have lost but people would still be praising them for having the balls to try a new strategy that is "funny".
You meant the bane and faramis strat when bane use to deal true damage in turrets? I forgot the bane user but I'm pretty sure faramis was chaknu
4:33 🤣🤣 I laughed so hard when both casters said “oh no”
It took julian 8½ min to get the evolved retribution😂😂
julian?
I think he's talking about the first game @@nyaa2130
in the game where they brought 5 retributions
@@nyaa2130he's probably talking about the 5 retribution match.
LOL. Cyber bullying wtf.
They're just showing basic how to end a game and how to tower lock the base
TEAM USA did something that I've always wanted to do, they've lived up my wildest imagination that too in a pro level settings🤣🤣🤣funny stuff
The enemy is literally a single mom ranked legends tho😂😂😂
@@Snailblazermrkl I don't care who they are or what ranks they are or how long they've played this game brother, I'm enjoying this for the fun of it. I know it's not practical in world tournament and against hardcore professional teams, but that's not the point brooo! The point is to enjoy it sonnnn commonnn mann💯
@@Snailblazermrklsingle mom is a joke by hoon but yeah enemies were just normal rank players
@@subh1953 okay, captain obvious
@@rang5210 you want to enjoy don't play competitive, just go bots or classic game. These modes are designed for your loser, casual play :)
We want a pov and voice chat 😭🤣
I’ll try bro haha
That strat has been circling in the PH rank queue before specially in the epic rank and above. Maybe they are practicing in the PH server and got defeated by this strategy but trying it in the competitive scene is so brave. They are lucky that the opposing team doesn't know how to counter it.
Lmao, what are you talking. No one in pH rank do this, you clown. Epic not Higher rank in my country do this.
Normal rank game in epic
dude, you dont have to use the same strategy in all matches. Team USA mixed it up by changing strategies to keep their opponents guessing. that's how you win is by becoming formless like water
how do you counter it?
team usa focusing on the OBJECTIVES. never occurred to me that arrival can be spammed like that to keep a minion alive so that you can push the turret
oh this strategy was used a lot in Hyper mode where everyone automatically gets arrival spell. You use it to protect turrets and base but I have never seen it used like this before. Very damn good of team usa
This strategy existed long ago and also was used in one of the competitive games .
It was a game when faramis first arrived and bane had insane turent damage
it didnt different base mechanics and hero mechanics
Damn kimchi man got the perfect kda 😂
As long as your strategy is legal by the rules and you're winning.. then no need to worry. ✌️💪
Définition of objective gaming.
Reinstalled this game after 4 years of hiatus but we used to do this trolling strategy back in 2017. It was hilarious back then as it is now.
6:09 talking about the game designer not knowing their game while they couldn't see that it got activated on a low hp minion like it usually does
They should call this 'the clash royale strategy
its not about hero killing!!
its there base to WIN!
we also did that 5 arrival before it was nerf.
USA prob learned that strategy when playing in Ph server, some Ph teams basically do that to actually increase their winrates in games. It's a double edged strategy, if you prolong it to atleast 10 minutes, you'd lose since that strategy delays the levels and items.
im sure there are lots of strategies to use. Problem is that I wish there was no banned and that all heroes can be selected. We would be able to see more strategies and game plays that can really bring excitement to these pro tournaments. Watching USA using all retribution and all arrivals really brought some excitement back. In those other pro matches, its so boring to watch since the action starts to really pick up at the 10 minute mark. With these 2 matches, the actions picked up right away!!!
Hoon already know that strategy..this strategy used before in his stream..3yrs ago
This is why this region won't do sh*t in internationals😂😭
We don't have the funds bro, no coaches either. Everything is going to SA, that's where the world class players are, where the funds are going. I'm surprised BTK made second in M4 a few years back.
@@roddy1420 Simple answer, western doesn't cares too much on mobile game.
@@wrdevious2921 I think that's true, but money talks bro, ML is the largest mobile game rn. It's stupid of investors not to get behind a team.
@@roddy1420btk was third
Usa was fighting as if they were fighting for oil
This is also the same as bane+selena+framis combo, also you can associate it with the diggie strat where someone, usually diggie will fed them and pul their aggro and attention, neglecting objectives.
people who watched dota 2 with prime OG strat this is so similar
well, they can't do that on strong teams because most of them just go for a tower trade and empty there jungle or do back door so they can't push
This strat is easily counterable if you're even slightly good
Is Basic playing? Because if he is, he's definitely the mastermind. I've seen him do this here in MPL PH 3 times. I remember the 5 man flameshot the most.
ah nope... Basic is not playing... It's from NXPE bro the 5 flameshots
@@Kuneho14 nah he did it when he was still the jungler of ULVL or now known as TNC. It was during MPL PH S6.
Ding dong tournament
Imagine supporting a guy like mielow 💀
@@ragazzz01 I think he's just teasing the goat
6:10 the holy defense did go up? I assume they’re talking about this at 4:40
That was a Dota 2 strategy .. it is like boots of travel so they can push fast and farm lane also
When they took "win by destroying the enemy crystal" advice too literal
I wish I have this kind of teammates that aims for the push not just kills.
Guadalupe looked like just a casual group of friends who teamed up then got toyed in a tournament
actually this is common in rank games now thats why they put another moontoon another shield in the other turrets
that was how you humiliating your enemy in the best way ever😂
I hope they do that to any pH teams. Let see how it goes 😁😉
as far as I remember this strat was already countered by SEA teams way back before covid.
If the exp lane is not xborg the game might be different.
What make usa win is the GLP draft is late game focus not early game focus.
hanabi and xborg so the side Lane in early is partically dead.
This Strat won't work when faced with enemy that have the knowledge about draft
This is an old strategy from Dota gamers. And if you have a friend playing ML, they will tell you that this is an old strategy.
Yeah this existed late 2018/2019 this won't be working in SEA. 😆
I had had a match where four enemies (not marksman though) just kept on destroying my gold lane and they actually won just like that. Meanwhile, the fifth one (a Ling) just tried his best to burst and pick us all one by one. It was absolutely terrible.
The true meaning of focusing on “adjective”
You mean 'Objective'?
Easiest solution would be to give up that tower push the other lane but the panicked ig cuz long term that team succs
what if that kind of strat vs the one execration(mpl ph old team) did, they'd be just running speedrun to finish the game
At the beginning: Wat is going on usa
bane melting the turret without minion in ph before and forced moonton to make adjustment by reducing damage dealt to turret without minion and now all arrival strat using hero that can melt the turret
recreating the turret melting strat in this patch
Brody is towered team push and team fight bruno was a bad idea but this a GUADALUPE with out there best player's
bros said "THIS A FORKING TOWER EATING GAME"
Atlas, tigreal, bellerick, Miya: hear me out
Poor play from the enemy lol. Should've grouped as soon as they all Tp'd cuz their entire comp revolves around getting turret and ending as fast as they can. If you drag and deny their push, they suck early and lategame. With 3 MM and estes, anti heal would wipe em. They're all just 1 shot squishy with high dps. If in lategame they 5 man teleport, 4 ppl can just defend and 1 push for end.
So if they lost early game, its gg go next.
What tournament is this
NA now remind me of how Philippine meta used to be
Nah, nothing's broken. They can try that against teams that actually knows what they're doing and see how hard they'd be punished for it.
Don't worry they aren't stupid...no one's gonna try that on stage
Ok.. Albert Einstein
What you talking bro
This is their strat against bren
@@Usernamei6549 lol, NA fanboys got triggered. Take a chill pill nubs. Lemme explain so that people of your level of comprehension can understand, ayt? I was replying to the caption of the video insinuating that NA team broke the game. Comprende?
@@Sonovagumno comprende
Now that is what i call a
group of people using their brains. wish i had friends like that… that werent pos’s either.
U.S.A. bullying these smaller regions liek that😭
Thats i abuse it using early argus backdoor ss and argus now is so freaking bug with hes ss when you used argus ulti backdoor tower the tower wont block the dmg from argus passive that came from hes ulti
the vc must have been so wild
Kinda sad Aus players don’t have esport teams
Only luo yi can stop this type draft in early game.
But that meta won't work against me
Since I also met this meta before at 2021
Yea. Be a pro first. Oops, you're not. Sadly.
You alone won't do shit tbh
@@chedieabella3312 nah that meta not gonna work in other region
This is not the 1st time i experienced this
Goes to show that they need to make the map bigger for xp and gold
Not really, as MLBB intended to be a fast paced game. Making it bigger will make the game longer, which is not what Moonton aimed to do. Plus, this strategy won't work against among the best teams like most PH teams or SRG
Where can i watch this tournament anyone what is this tournament called?
Counter with grock walls pharsa def ults and. Cooldown playstyle change ult for lane control gord will also stop this but will be the least effective
Meanwhile zia was dying laughing! On the stream.
That XBorg used ult then flashed after it exploded. Like WTF
This only works because of how bad the other team is. Aamon could have one shot everyone after the 4 minute free farm mark.
nah this is just normal tactics in mlph although not used in tournaments
Ppl often forgot that MLBB is a tower defense game.
They forgot it's a 5v5 game too
All fun ends when they meet a team with the same crazy as them.
Wheneevr teams pulls sh#t like this, its always so entertaining.
Execration did this first lol this ain’t the first time that a team did this strat
This strategy is so old
Belerick would've been a good choice to counter this
Imagine the opponents mental trauma....they should have analyse the opponents draft properly and make a moves accordingly. They not only toyed with them but literally destroyed the opponents gaming spirit🗿
Try doing it against top teams. Let's see if they can pull it off. They just belittle GLP because they're not a threat.
you're a dumbazz dude. even top teams can be defeated with this strategy. Having a strategy like this one helps mix up your game play so that you dont use the same strategy every fudging match. Only in solo rank would it work all the time since solo players are clueless at strategy.
if only lolita couldve seen thus coming and also used arrival lol
This won't work in pH coz we pH are good at defending and wave management
i doubt if this would work on Filipino teams, but oh well, O digress
holy shet! that was fun to watch fr! bro casters leave the chat as long they that turrent eater lol 😂
How will the Moonton developer doesn't know about it? It's a copied game from data and tp secures turrets
probably it will not work against strong team. I only see that strat in lower rank games, I am solo ranking when I encounter a team mate who suggested we pick mages back then and all flameshot pretty fun game, our opposite team suggested their going to report us for cheating haha..
its applicable againts AI 😅😅 imagine getting vexana already answer this strategy just clear the creeps
They’re using arrival to make the creeps immune to damage.
Love this moment 😂😂😂
5 arrivals 😂😂😂
but if you do it here in the Philippines, it won't work, all arrival or all retri. but they really insulted their opponent in 5 arrivals hahaha 8:16
I bet it will work
I have win in 8 min before they revamp all my main, with the old zhaz before the revamp I could stop all of them I’m talking the zhaz of 2016
not sure if they trollin or breakin meta
They just didn't respect their oppenets..
How tf did they lose to a meme strategy. I also wonder how it would pan out against the top teams.
I would be so pissed if I saw this going in one of my games 😢😂
Filipino have been doing it for a year
I did this strategy with my friends (full squad) it sure it was so fun and chaotic
That's why mielow didn't care if he's not iesf. The goat is too good for this tournament
Dude I wish we could just hear the usa voice chat lmfao😂😂😂😂
This is what's lacking in PH tbh.
Enjoying the game and exploting new strats.
I like NA now bc of this.
Plus we get the bonus of watching history happen. This was like the fountain hook dendi did back then. Or maybe the rat strat alliance did
Good job guys.
Epic gameplay 😂😅
Man just learned a lot
This ain't trolling it's a strat. Who cares about kills when you can win and end the game