Nirvana Were a Feminist Band

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  • Опубликовано: 21 сен 2024

Комментарии • 5 тыс.

  • @katieblankenship688
    @katieblankenship688 5 лет назад +10199

    Remember when Kurt stopped in the middle of a concert to stop a sexual assault? And then the rest of the band members laughed at the dude who did it and made HIM feel uncomfortable? I do. A beautiful musician, gone too soon.

    • @johnnyokeeffe6577
      @johnnyokeeffe6577 5 лет назад +214

      Katie Blankenship if anyone wants to see the video here you go 👍
      ruclips.net/video/_YWbrTzkSQM/видео.html

    • @marcy-v-
      @marcy-v- 5 лет назад +46

      @Johnny Okeeffe thanks

    • @daviddagnall5931
      @daviddagnall5931 5 лет назад +38

      That doesnt make him a feminist lol

    • @TheTourtopoulais
      @TheTourtopoulais 5 лет назад +284

      @@hwfq34fajw9foiffawdiufhuaiwfhw i assume you were ironic, so, no, people who consider themselves "normal" usually don't do this. They're more like, standing by and either looking away or waiting for someone else to act. This is the watcher effect or spectator syndrome, and getting up to say "fuck you, stop it" is acting like very few people do.

    • @TheTourtopoulais
      @TheTourtopoulais 5 лет назад +145

      And this is, of course, a problem. What should be considered normal is standing up against sexual assaulters and rapists.

  • @WCWThunderRosa
    @WCWThunderRosa 5 лет назад +4184

    People who don’t think Nirvana was a feminist band clearly didn’t listen to Territorial Pissings.
    And are the exact people he was singing about in In Bloom.

    • @iamcase1245
      @iamcase1245 4 года назад +67

      THANK YOU. YOU WIN THE INTERNET.

    • @LoekTheKing
      @LoekTheKing 4 года назад +35

      You deserve reddit gold, kind stranger 🏅

    • @destiny6027
      @destiny6027 4 года назад +126

      “He’s the one who likes all our pretty songs and he likes to sing along and he likes to shoot his gun but he don’t knows why it means” oooh

    • @LoekTheKing
      @LoekTheKing 4 года назад +41

      @czarpoesia And if you save yourself
      You will make him happy
      He'll keep you in a jar
      And you'll think you're happy
      He'll give you breathing holes
      And you'll think you're happy
      He'll cover you with grass
      And you'll think you're happy now
      *YOU'RE IN A LAUNDRY ROOM*
      *YOU'RE IN A LAUNDRY ROOM*
      The clues that came to you, oh

    • @blackswan1301
      @blackswan1301 4 года назад +7

      have you ever heard their song moist vagina.

  • @CakeRocketProduction
    @CakeRocketProduction 6 лет назад +4096

    There was also that one time they had a concert in some latin-american country. They had an all-girl band as their opening act, and they got boo-ed of stage. Kurt was pissed at the crowd after that, so they played the first chords to "Smells like Teen Spirit" and just stopped to tease them several times, then just played songs nobody wanted to hear until they ended the concert early. There's footage of it here on youtube, it's pretty funny.

    • @jjwest1272
      @jjwest1272 6 лет назад +117

      Yeah, that's pretty funny trying to piss off your customers.

    • @matthewleclair3189
      @matthewleclair3189 6 лет назад +1127

      @@jjwest1272 you're right, it's hilarious

    • @janetreid4515
      @janetreid4515 6 лет назад +161

      Where they booed off because it was an all woman band or because they weren't all that good?

    • @sadboipotato3382
      @sadboipotato3382 5 лет назад +85

      @@janetreid4515 What? You mean a band with merit? Who cares, they were all women, so obviously they were good.

    • @MyssBlewm
      @MyssBlewm 5 лет назад +705

      @@janetreid4515 Knowing the machismo of rock music it's not a stretch to assume that the all women rock band was booed on the sole basis that they were an all women band.

  • @charisselinnellmorton851
    @charisselinnellmorton851 5 лет назад +3584

    Excellent . I still can remember listening to Nirvana with a boyfriend when I was in my teens.He was this homophobic Hockey player who loved Queen and Nirvana. I remember that I explained the meaning behind many of Nirvanas song were opposite to what he believed.He actually became more accepting and open towards others after that...

    • @electricshrapnel4368
      @electricshrapnel4368 4 года назад +40

      How long after that did you break up?

    • @vilimbubas1302
      @vilimbubas1302 4 года назад +12

      No he didnt

    • @lauramac90
      @lauramac90 4 года назад +111

      @Charlie Cross my grandad was a homophobe who loved Queen 🙈 I'm happy he bought me up on Queen but would confuse me when he would make jokes about Freddie being gay.

    • @charisselinnellmorton851
      @charisselinnellmorton851 4 года назад +55

      Electric Shrapnel
      Pretty quick...I am bisexual..😆

    • @velocitypeasant5832
      @velocitypeasant5832 4 года назад +1

      @@charisselinnellmorton851 oof

  • @protag1956
    @protag1956 3 года назад +2740

    ironic how so many male nirvana fans are raging misogynists and somehow think they know "what kurt wouldve wanted" when theyre literally the people he didnt want listening to his music

    • @aspannas
      @aspannas 3 года назад +93

      @Warlord there's literally so many just in this comment section what are you talking about

    • @aspannas
      @aspannas 3 года назад +63

      @Warlord Then you haven't looked enough and just because you haven't come across one doesn't mean they don't exist.

    • @aspannas
      @aspannas 3 года назад +39

      @Warlord lmao, I have better things to do dude, take a look at the comment section as I said. If you don't believe me then I don't, I don't actually care if you do, you're just a random person on the internet

    • @aspannas
      @aspannas 3 года назад +27

      @Warlord The proof exist everywhere, on the internet and in real life, you are just blind to it and is just being a troll right now. How come only you here is saying they don't exist when the original comment has 72 likes, meaning people agree? You lack common sense and awareness.

    • @gezi0752
      @gezi0752 3 года назад +14

      @Warlord bro literally just go to newest comments

  • @ashleyr1787
    @ashleyr1787 4 года назад +1658

    I wish there were more men out there with the empathy and emotion of Kurt. He was gone too soon.

    • @jaegerentertainment6865
      @jaegerentertainment6865 4 года назад +9

      Men are men. Kurt acted more like a masculine woman. Feminism is outright wrong.

    • @ashleyr1787
      @ashleyr1787 4 года назад +86

      Jaeger Entertainment what’s wrong with it?

    • @user-pu2xu2iq9o
      @user-pu2xu2iq9o 4 года назад +118

      Jaeger Entertainment stay mad incel

    • @tchmsery6055
      @tchmsery6055 3 года назад +70

      @@jaegerentertainment6865 dont breed

    • @jaegerentertainment6865
      @jaegerentertainment6865 3 года назад +2

      @@tchmsery6055 Lol why not?

  • @sensen4161
    @sensen4161 3 года назад +446

    The same people who listen to Nirvana/RATM and are homophobic/sexist are the same people who don't realise they're the ones being criticized in movies like the matrix and fight club.
    It's so bizzare how so many people are just blatantly ignorant like that.

    • @henriquepacheco7473
      @henriquepacheco7473 3 года назад +20

      I think this very channel talks about it in a video about RATM, but to a certain extent, these people sympathize with the way the message is presented. Nirvana, just like RATM, has an anger and irreverence that feel justified and purposeful, and that moves much faster than the lyrics do. You can listen to one of their songs and get the feeling that the music carries, even if the don't understand the lyrics (be it ignorance or in some cases never having even read or heard them properly). It feels absolutely like shit, but sometimes people will just get the anger and not get how to direct it at the systems that the band is desperately signaling at with their lyrics.

    • @Yaldabub
      @Yaldabub Год назад +3

      Fight club is about the feeling of being trapped as a man in modern society and being unable to unleash your true self. American Psycho has a similar message. The Matrix is also a metaphor for feeling trapped, feeling like your life is fake etc. These are all films about individuals who can't be themselves and are trapped by societal standards. It's something I relate to on an emotional level myself.

    • @Saethyr
      @Saethyr 8 месяцев назад +5

      ​@Yaldabub fight club is about the idiocy of traditional masculinity. The author said he wrote it to piss certain people off. American Psycho is about a serial killer, and is a criticism of capitalism. The matrix is about philosophy and being transgender. Please take a media literacy class.
      I also recommend getting therapy if you think American Psycho is relatable.

    • @iamcase1245
      @iamcase1245 8 месяцев назад

      Kurt lost his virginity by raping an autistic girl. The man was a perfomative feminist . Look up some of his history.

    • @kymbbm
      @kymbbm 7 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@Yaldabub then you missed the point of FC and AP. FC in particular is aggressively making fun of people who choose all these ways to deal with their problems - they are destructive, explosive and violent, and they don't address their problems in a way that could even change anything, they just want to destroy for the sake of it. It's anti-social. It's stupid.

  • @jeffwalker6815
    @jeffwalker6815 5 лет назад +602

    'I'm not the only one' is 1993's '#metoo'.

    • @nitimurinvetitum_
      @nitimurinvetitum_ 4 года назад +53

      @Shaggy Rodgers I'm pretty sure that line was written from a raped woman's perspective

    • @jsn-_-smoke8786
      @jsn-_-smoke8786 3 года назад

      @@nitimurinvetitum_ i think it is but it could go both ways

    • @shadowcween7890
      @shadowcween7890 3 года назад +13

      @Shaggy Rodgers well, considering the perspective from most of the song, and interviews he's had about it, it's probably from the perspective of the victim

    • @houseofthewretched
      @houseofthewretched Год назад +1

      @Shaggy Rodgers its from the perspective of the victim lmao

  • @BIGxBOSSxx1
    @BIGxBOSSxx1 6 лет назад +916

    Kurt was a strong feminist and very vocal about being anti-racist.

    • @henryallen4158
      @henryallen4158 6 лет назад +90

      99 Bottles of Bleach fun fact: you made that shit up.

    • @jjwest1272
      @jjwest1272 6 лет назад +8

      And very pro- suicidal!

    • @dickcheesehead9714
      @dickcheesehead9714 6 лет назад +1

      Hahahaha. LOL
      You people are a walking meme at this point.

    • @danielbelkin4652
      @danielbelkin4652 5 лет назад +43

      I thought the Suffragettes weren't feminist...? You're really inconsistent regarding your claims about them, considering what you've said in other threads.
      And yes, the Suffragettes were quite racist, like most white people at the time. This is why later on 2nd and 3rd wave feminism moved to rectify this, except your allies all hold the position of "Early feminism was better!"

    • @hardluck8732
      @hardluck8732 5 лет назад +5

      @99 Bottles of Bleach Based!

  • @julianaguirre7249
    @julianaguirre7249 6 лет назад +264

    When Nirvana came to Argentina in 1992, they brought with them a band made entirely with girls called Calamity Jane. The public in the concert treated the girls like shit and Kurt was so mad about this that he wanted to cancel the full show. Finally his partners convinced him to play but he refused to sing "Smell like teen spirit" as an answer to the audience attitude.

    • @danm3047
      @danm3047 5 лет назад +8

      I didn't know this. what a great bit of info!

    • @rmv9194
      @rmv9194 5 лет назад +2

      The would probably have treated any band not known to them as shit regardless of their gender. That's what happens normally in big ass concert when the opening act isn't well known and doesn't connect with the public.

    • @FlamingCuntLips
      @FlamingCuntLips 5 лет назад +12

      Cobain + Nirvana have a weird relation with South Americans. The first incident I heard was how he walked past a child shooting up on heroin in the street. Openly just sitting there on the sidewalk and the kid looked up at him and smiled saying
      "Hey, Kurt Cobain, Nirvana ! ! ! You guys rock" or something close to that.
      It was a heck of a blow for him because he was also starting to use himself but I don't think he saw his own habit as being a way of condoning it for others.
      Today I've got a couple of Brazilian friends on Facebook. They often share Kurt Cobain meme's a lot which is weird because the context of the ones I have translated promotes an oddly skewed perception of Nirvana. They have a very right wing leaning ideology and yet they seem to LOVE NIRVANA.
      Am I correct for the majority or do you think I probably just have some weird ass facebook friends ? ? ?

    • @valcrist7428
      @valcrist7428 3 года назад

      @@danm3047 Because it didn't happened. It's made up

    • @ericbuzzard2041
      @ericbuzzard2041 3 года назад +13

      @@valcrist7428 um, no, it very much did happen. The concert was filmed and it's been talked about in countless interviews and articles.

  • @brickmen444
    @brickmen444 5 лет назад +3735

    Kurt Cobain was so ahead of his time it was crazy.
    We need him now more than anything
    also, kudos to this guy for making this video

    • @ToothyMTG1
      @ToothyMTG1 5 лет назад +56

      Kurt was not ahead of his time at all. He was in the perfect time. Had he been from another time period, they wouldn’t make it. No one cared about grunge until 1992, when Smells Like Teen Spirit.

    • @simorto
      @simorto 5 лет назад +1

      Well now that you say this we can say that you are not a nirvana fan

    • @simorto
      @simorto 5 лет назад

      Now that you say this we can say that you don't know nothing and That you are not a nirvana fan

    • @brickmen444
      @brickmen444 5 лет назад

      @@simorto me or nathan

    • @owlleep6047
      @owlleep6047 5 лет назад +3

      Then why dont more people just think and take action like that instead of relying on someone who isnt here anymore?

  • @SpoopySquid
    @SpoopySquid 4 года назад +1991

    The people who claim to love Nirvana but are dismissive of their blatant progressive feminism are the same kind of chuds who unironically say "I liked RATM until they started getting political"

    • @Money4NothingUK
      @Money4NothingUK 4 года назад +7

      Yeah he did well at picking a partner in Courtney love, Kurt was a preacher man.

    • @SensitiveSky5
      @SensitiveSky5 4 года назад +37

      I support actual feminism that wants equality not just women perfect man bad

    • @hypatonic
      @hypatonic 4 года назад +147

      true feminists totally support the issues men face too and they definitely don't think women are perfect and men are bad. feminists just want equality and respect for women, but also both genders. the radical, "feminazis" that make a bad name ruin it for almost all of the feminists out there.

    • @MorgansTrainClips
      @MorgansTrainClips 3 года назад +15

      @@hypatonic that’s so based holy shit

    • @tonio7848
      @tonio7848 3 года назад

      @@hypatonic no they don't feminists fights for equality for women people who fight for man rights are mra or what i am egalitarian

  • @albertduluoz
    @albertduluoz 6 лет назад +368

    This might help some people to understand that Cobain was not just a "troubled kid", but a commited man who was fighting and resisting in such a variety of fronts (education, youth emancipation, mercenary media, feminism, etc).

    • @ayatollahal-avtomat8382
      @ayatollahal-avtomat8382 5 лет назад +6

      He was so committed that he blew his head off and left his daughter without her father. Oh, but feminists say you don't need a father anyways so no biggie.

    • @emiliosgregoriou8943
      @emiliosgregoriou8943 5 лет назад

      @@ayatollahal-avtomat8382 It wasn't a fucking suicide, dickhead. Seriously, look up how the police investigated the scene (if you could even call it a proper investigation) and look at the evidence that it was a murder. Don't go around perpetuating the false narrative that he selfishly committed suicide

    • @marcperez2598
      @marcperez2598 5 лет назад +12

      @@emiliosgregoriou8943 ok but it was a suicide. He had a history of depression and suicidal thoughts.
      Dont go all conspiracy theorist here. That shit is just dumb as fuck

    • @Hartmanmarkus
      @Hartmanmarkus 5 лет назад +8

      @@ayatollahal-avtomat8382 people like you shouldn't be fathers. Feminists want people to be treated equally. If a father is a bad father, and his kids are better off without him in their lives (you think abusive parents should be tolerated? And pedophiles?) then yeah, their kids don't need them. Kids become healthy well adjusted adults with or without one parent, and with same sex parents.

    • @thesuperballer9
      @thesuperballer9 5 лет назад +2

      @@emiliosgregoriou8943 Either one could be true, there's a lot of evidence on both sides of the story. However, I'm on the murder side because of the argument stating the amount of heroin found in his blood would make it hard to shoot the gun.

  • @eliotttttt
    @eliotttttt 5 лет назад +1240

    Guns N’ Roses is one of, if not my favorite band, but I don’t look up to them as people at all. The members of nirvana especially Kurt understood stuff that many people don’t get today, and that is something that you can’t say for GNR.

    • @LoekTheKing
      @LoekTheKing 5 лет назад +53

      Woah, I appreciate your honesty!

    • @hardluck8732
      @hardluck8732 5 лет назад +8

      What did they understand? There mentality was cultural Marxist bullshit.

    • @jennyjohn704
      @jennyjohn704 5 лет назад +201

      @@hardluck8732 Being against rape does not make you a cultural Marxist. The lack of understanding here seems to be on your part.

    • @LupitaGoth
      @LupitaGoth 5 лет назад +20

      I get what you're saying and I agree, but not even Duff McKagan? From what I know, he seems to be a really cool guy

    • @veoh112
      @veoh112 5 лет назад +5

      Jenny John he’s a trolling reactionary

  • @ughwhydoidothisendme8477
    @ughwhydoidothisendme8477 5 лет назад +2084

    Kurt is the anti-incel man and we STAN

    • @gaelswag
      @gaelswag 4 года назад +8

      no he wasnt at all

    • @girlsnightgirIsnight
      @girlsnightgirIsnight 4 года назад +231

      so many male nirvana fans are in denial lmao sad

    • @gaelswag
      @gaelswag 4 года назад +34

      @@girlsnightgirIsnight an incel means involuntarily celibate? Isn't attached to any stereotypes or ideologies at all. Kurt himself talked about having trouble getting laid himself. Basically ur saying he's anti men receiving love and affection alright

    • @girlsnightgirIsnight
      @girlsnightgirIsnight 4 года назад +13

      ....is it crack?

    • @gaelswag
      @gaelswag 4 года назад +3

      @@girlsnightgirIsnight good one man avoid the question with a poor comeback real smart

  • @historywithkaitlynrescino1996
    @historywithkaitlynrescino1996 4 года назад +252

    Kurt was ahead of his time. Nirvana is one of my favorite bands. I really didn’t think of them as feminists until I really dove in to Kurt’s life and Nirvana’s music. He is a sweetheart.

    • @haitiansouljadex3186
      @haitiansouljadex3186 3 года назад +1

      Ahead lol he litteraly fucking kill rock n roll. fck him first of all second of all may he do heroin in hell now

  • @CCSTEADMAN
    @CCSTEADMAN 6 лет назад +1841

    Nirvana - Territorial Pissings
    Never met a wise man, If so it's a woman.

    • @prometheus_xe8083
      @prometheus_xe8083 5 лет назад +32

      I was waiting for this I was disappointed

    • @codymcgrew4015
      @codymcgrew4015 5 лет назад +94

      When I was an aliennnn... cultures weren’t opinionnnssss...
      It’s like he was saying “I wish I was part of a more intelligent species that didn’t wish to generalize and stereotype everything.”

    • @RealityCheck6T9
      @RealityCheck6T9 5 лет назад +2

      Lol

    • @violentaftervisions3849
      @violentaftervisions3849 4 года назад +40

      The first wise man I knew was my mother. My father was a complete dipshit.

    • @charisselinnellmorton851
      @charisselinnellmorton851 4 года назад +1

      Mister E
      Awww that brings back my late high school and Uni days

  • @RobertJRoman
    @RobertJRoman 6 лет назад +1354

    Let's be totally honest. If Kurt Cobain were alive today, angry young misogynists in Reddit, Twitter, and RUclips comments would be calling him an SJW.

    • @SpicyTexan64
      @SpicyTexan64 5 лет назад +148

      Actually at this point, feminists would be calling him a misogynist just for being a man.

    • @bernebelmont1857
      @bernebelmont1857 5 лет назад +63

      Only a couple obscure people on Twitter would call him a misogynist

    • @Drakoak
      @Drakoak 5 лет назад +229

      @@SpicyTexan64 I'm a straight, white male and have never been called a misogynist because I don't promote sexist rhetoric or anything that inherently lacks egalitarian views. If you respect every other sexuality, gender and race as your equal you won't be attacked.

    • @El_Andru
      @El_Andru 5 лет назад +26

      @@SpicyTexan64 yeah, they would just look at the title "Rape Me" and unleash

    • @El_Andru
      @El_Andru 5 лет назад +2

      @Eliana Piriz what is a straw man?

  • @halguy5745
    @halguy5745 3 года назад +355

    conservatives so often miss the point of the media they consume. movies like fightclub, games like bioshock, music like... literally the entire punk movement. the message and satire just flies over their heads

    • @featherycoffee1401
      @featherycoffee1401 3 года назад +2

      Don't you just love pjw

    • @DrAnxiety17
      @DrAnxiety17 2 года назад +44

      I freaking love when they use Born in the USA as a patriotic song.

    • @El1society
      @El1society Год назад

      @@DrAnxiety17or ratm and only listen to the ‘fuck you i won’t do what you tell me’

    • @friend42069
      @friend42069 Год назад +1

      can u explain the meaning behind fight club?

    • @BGNOLA
      @BGNOLA 6 месяцев назад

      Tell it to Johnny Ramone.

  • @betterlucknexttime7534
    @betterlucknexttime7534 4 года назад +860

    NIRVANA SAYS GAY RIGHTS

  • @_sh4rp
    @_sh4rp 6 лет назад +470

    "I like the comfort in knowing that women are the only future in rock and roll" - Kurt Cobain

    • @pauldecoster
      @pauldecoster 6 лет назад +37

      Shariam Arpi And lo and behold, many great new rock bands are fronted by women today.

    • @Maialeen
      @Maialeen 6 лет назад +7

      When it comes back they'll bring it back. It's the truth. Everything is cyclical. We're not in a rock phase now.

    • @hardluck8732
      @hardluck8732 5 лет назад +8

      Except they were not.

    • @Earthling-jr2vn
      @Earthling-jr2vn 5 лет назад +15

      That's pretty sexist.

    • @skullsouljah2836
      @skullsouljah2836 5 лет назад +4

      Rock and roll is dead and has been dead for a while. Rap is the future of music.

  • @cherizar1854
    @cherizar1854 6 лет назад +565

    such a good synthesis for people not familiarized with nirvana, their music, and the message they were trying to convey to the world. This is a great video to show to any person who thinks Nirvana was just another "angry garage band" of the 90s.

    • @ECL28E
      @ECL28E 3 года назад +3

      They were THE angry grunge-band. You think grunge, you think Smells Like Teen Spirit

  • @fantanofanfiction5451
    @fantanofanfiction5451 6 лет назад +2250

    If Kurt was alive today, he would still be a feminist.

    • @simeoncarter3768
      @simeoncarter3768 6 лет назад +117

      He'd probably still be shooting smack too. Most feminists are dysfunctional, most drug addicts are dysfunctional. Makes sense he was both.

    • @aestheticaltwat
      @aestheticaltwat 6 лет назад +309

      Francois Dillinger, feminists from the 80s were actually feminists. ‘Feminists’ From nowadays aren’t feminists, they are dick-heads who think women are superior to men.

    • @Maialeen
      @Maialeen 6 лет назад +96

      He'd probably be more hardcore about it since as you can see the internet has brought out the scum and made them believe they matter. Since horrible people are always the loudest people like him would fight it harder. In the era of trump and kavanaugh, every good soul knows we need to fight harder. It's terrible that he didn't prioritize his health. It was a loss.

    • @supernatural5354
      @supernatural5354 6 лет назад +104

      Can you blame feminists? They have to live in a world with boys like you that were breast fed tell the age of 5.

    • @CrisKRA
      @CrisKRA 6 лет назад +27

      He would probably be a SJW who gets offended by everything.

  • @fordthefox3661
    @fordthefox3661 3 года назад +695

    My dad is a huge homophobe but he loves Nirvana I showed him in bloom then came out he told me to get out of his house
    In Bloom is one of his favorite songs 😂😂😂

    • @CorinneA3
      @CorinneA3 3 года назад +53

      I hope you're okay! :(

    • @violovecraft12
      @violovecraft12 3 года назад +35

      Damn. What a asshole. I know he still your dad but man, I know how that feels.

    • @oolllliieeee3849
      @oolllliieeee3849 3 года назад +31

      I’m so sorry to hear that, i hope ur doing well and are ok!! Proud of u 💜💜

    • @intheshade3018
      @intheshade3018 3 года назад +37

      God the irony is real
      I hope you're doing better now

    • @johnbing7653
      @johnbing7653 3 года назад +17

      Hope youre doing alright, youre a legend

  • @lysergicserpent7676
    @lysergicserpent7676 6 лет назад +1180

    Thanks for this. I was a huge Nirvana fan back in the day, but I was so young that most of these messages pretty much flew over my head, and in the intervening years I never quite took the time to go back and hear them. It's not a stretch to learn that, coming out of the scene they did, they would share such views, but it certainly seems true that, for whatever reason, their legacy in popular culture hasn't included their passion for social justice and their role in bringing that discussion into the music mainstream.

    • @valarya
      @valarya 6 лет назад +20

      I came down here to comment exactly what you just said. I'm 37 years old and was a huge fan of Nirvana as a teen in the 90s, but these messages completely flew over my head as well. I'm a feminist and am blown away I never caught any of this. You're also dead-on that unfortunately their passion for social justice isn't remembered when thinking of their legacy.
      Cheers to Polyphonic for making this video. ♥

    • @damianamusic
      @damianamusic 6 лет назад +32

      "Intelligent opponents" So people who defend rape? Don't think that would've helped him out man. The insight you're supposed to glean is literally spelled out for you in the video, that shit happens way too often and mostly by the people women are closest too, really not that hard to comprehend.

    • @claudiotinoue
      @claudiotinoue 6 лет назад +3

      Same here man, gotta revisit their catalog now.

    • @niklashansen5432
      @niklashansen5432 6 лет назад +6

      Yep. This totally flew over my head as I was a teenager listening mostly to Nirvana. Now Im a 36 year old guy, and the line that stays with me is "teenage angst has paid off well, now Im bored and old".
      :D

    • @carlosmatos9848
      @carlosmatos9848 6 лет назад +2

      Thats what good songwriters do. They write lyrics in a sarcastic tone or a sort of cryptic way, they know some people will get it and the morons will take it literally. I was also too young to understand it all back Nirvana's heyday though.

  • @arcticawoof7084
    @arcticawoof7084 3 года назад +442

    To all the stereotypical straight men in the comments : feminism --> women = men, NOT women > men. Therefore, Nirvana was a VERY blatantly feminist band. Now if you're not okay with that, you go against everything Kurt Cobain stood for, so maybe stop listening to his music and go find another random male artist who enjoys degrading women (trust me, there's a lot).

    • @SonicJaneStooge
      @SonicJaneStooge 3 года назад +14

      Humanism > Feminism. Same equality stuff but without the hypocrisy of feminism being for equality but doing nothing about divorce rights, fathers rights, circumcision etc.... also no man hating which is great. Kurt was a feminist in the sense that he lied alot and married a abusive racist lol.

    • @beyondtheheadrush3863
      @beyondtheheadrush3863 3 года назад +60

      @@SonicJaneStooge Feminism is for men and women. That means yes, all the things you listed there are a part of feminist goals. It means fighting for equality, also in these (few) aspects where men are disadvantaged.You might not experience it (or just won't admit it) but men are suffering from toxic masculinity too. Now, the phenomenon of this toxicity explains why some men opress women, but it's not excusing it. "Hating men" directly translates to hating patriarchy. Feminism is not hypocritical. But some men are very pressed about being confronted with the flaws of their own perspective, where sexism doesn't play a role.

    • @SonicJaneStooge
      @SonicJaneStooge 3 года назад +9

      @@beyondtheheadrush3863 Feminism is full of hypocrisy. Also it's for women and women only. Feminists say all the time "I could never be friends or date a guy who isn't a feminist/shorter than me/broke/*insert any preference here*". One dude said "I could never date a feminist" (not even agressively btw) & he trended cause all these feminists started insulting him calling him a "fat fuck" (body shaming). "probably living in his mom's basement" (shaming someone for not being rich enough to get a mortgage).

    • @beyondtheheadrush3863
      @beyondtheheadrush3863 3 года назад +39

      @@SonicJaneStooge this point of view is very narrowminded. Dating preferences have nothing to do with equality. I myself would not date someone that would believe that I am of less worth than them. Saying that fighting for human rights (feminism) and preferences for height, status etc. are the same thing is very harmful and ignorant. I do agree with you on the shaming though, that should never be okay or a part of feminism.
      The point of you, that feminism was only for women is also not true. It is also for everyone that doesn't fit into society's gender norms and patriarchy and gets opressed for that.

    • @SonicJaneStooge
      @SonicJaneStooge 3 года назад +4

      ​@@beyondtheheadrush3863 That's the hypocrisy I'm talking about. Feminists be like "body shaming is wrong". Some dude: "I'm not a feminist". Feminists: "you probably have a small penis" LOL. There's so much of it. With abortion feminists be like "my body my choice". When men say "hey what about circumcision? My body my choice applies to us too" Feminists: "we're busy right now. call back later lol." Same with politics. Tons of feminists protested Trump for saying "grab em by the pussy". When Obama was deporting over 3 million people and bombing 6 middle eastern countries where was the protest? Again so much hypocrisy. Only talk about toxic masculinity NEVER talk about toxic femininity. Seom even deny it exists LOL. Hence why being a humanist > feminist.

  • @yoursleepparalysisdemon1828
    @yoursleepparalysisdemon1828 5 лет назад +1356

    Don’t copyright this video I allow it

    • @mirrorreaper3545
      @mirrorreaper3545 5 лет назад +24

      What if ur alive lol

    • @ExuberantTangent
      @ExuberantTangent 5 лет назад +59

      But does Courtney allow it?

    • @LydCal999
      @LydCal999 5 лет назад +86

      Please don't impersonate the dead even if you're just doing it for fun, it's kind of fucked up

    • @yourchaoticadhdfriend3523
      @yourchaoticadhdfriend3523 5 лет назад +5

      Who brought you back to life!?!?! 🤣

    • @goof956
      @goof956 5 лет назад +15

      @@LydCal999 I completely agree. Wtf, if he really respected him, he wouldn't be such a dip

  • @Wolfgang-616
    @Wolfgang-616 5 лет назад +193

    This proves why nirvana is my favorite band and will always be

    • @Malos_
      @Malos_ 3 года назад +1

      @@yo519_ ok anime pfp

  • @Moldeyawsome12
    @Moldeyawsome12 6 лет назад +1042

    Oh boy these comments are gonna be fun

    • @eval7952
      @eval7952 6 лет назад +19

      Here’s one,
      Kurt was a feminist,
      And then a woman paid a man to blow off Kurt’s brains for his money.
      If if it happened.

    • @irosencrantz882
      @irosencrantz882 6 лет назад +15

      Jason 'Ryback' Hemingway,
      Throw in an emoji so that people can tell that you meant that tongue in cheek. Otherwise, you just sound like a moron.

    • @elmaxter122
      @elmaxter122 6 лет назад +14

      No, throw a emoji only if you have a mental disability, they aren't necessary for normal ppl

    • @roseblack6342
      @roseblack6342 6 лет назад +34

      If Kurt Cobain could read these comments he'd probably kill himself again

    • @roseblack6342
      @roseblack6342 6 лет назад +6

      and what are their politics and general outlook on life?

  • @tcetvel8648
    @tcetvel8648 6 лет назад +1712

    kurt is a *WOKE KING*

  • @reptileannno8223
    @reptileannno8223 6 лет назад +683

    I know.. Kurt loved women and he genuinely loved them, not just for their bodies... Guys now days would call him a white knight, but he was a true gentleman.. and I would take that any day over a "nice" guy....

    • @LoekTheKing
      @LoekTheKing 5 лет назад +25

      You're being wrong yourself too. You're generalizing all men and associating them to one property.

    • @Disasterbator
      @Disasterbator 5 лет назад +17

      Was he a "supreme gentleman" though??

    • @markmullins5822
      @markmullins5822 5 лет назад +5

      Defintley not, that honor goes to the late great Elliot Rodger

    • @Idontcare1314
      @Idontcare1314 5 лет назад +1

      Disasterbator beat me to it lol

    • @Idontcare1314
      @Idontcare1314 5 лет назад +20

      Kurt almost killed himself in Rome when he thought Courtney would cheat on him. Courtney herself admits that she thought about it. I believe his beliefs contributed to his misery. I believe he killed himself because he felt like he was weak and was depressed how he could be a millionaire but his baby mama would still think about cheating.

  • @goodnightmoon
    @goodnightmoon 2 года назад +71

    i know so many people who likes nirvana but are sexist and homophobic
    *the irony*

    • @pilgrym
      @pilgrym 2 года назад +1

      Yeah its so dumb

    • @toohappy5305
      @toohappy5305 Год назад +1

      Yup especially scrolling thru the new comments

  • @fatcat54922
    @fatcat54922 5 лет назад +140

    Kurt is such a amazing person

    • @Noxantes
      @Noxantes 5 лет назад +6

      Yep, agreed !

  • @miguel.4900
    @miguel.4900 5 лет назад +335

    hi axl
    hi axl
    Where's Axl?
    hi Axl!

  • @takenoprisoners837
    @takenoprisoners837 4 года назад +121

    They put Morals BEFORE Money, something Nobody does anymore!! They were and are such an amazing group of men.

  • @sippinghorchata
    @sippinghorchata 5 лет назад +322

    this is why I love Nirvana...
    Rest in Peace Kurt Cobain

    • @jaegerentertainment6865
      @jaegerentertainment6865 4 года назад +3

      You love nirvana because their feminist. That’s gross

    • @becca6737
      @becca6737 4 года назад +19

      @@jaegerentertainment6865 *they're

    • @rowancotterill4418
      @rowancotterill4418 2 года назад +2

      @@jaegerentertainment6865 OH GET GRAMMAR CORRECTED BITCHHHHHH

    • @KydLives
      @KydLives 2 года назад

      @@jaegerentertainment6865 YEAHHH TAKE THAT BITCHHHHHH!

    • @themangoman9315
      @themangoman9315 2 года назад

      @@jaegerentertainment6865 your gross

  • @johnm3863
    @johnm3863 6 лет назад +703

    Kurt Cobain, one of the most aware and underrated songwriters in rock

    • @johnm3863
      @johnm3863 6 лет назад +16

      Dragon - mil50010 The difference between those two and Cobain are astounding, Lennon and Mercury were both groundbreaking artists musically and lyrically, but Kurts way with words that have double even triple meanings is what I think makes him underrated

    • @abravexstove289
      @abravexstove289 6 лет назад +4

      Sailor Jerry Kurt said he wrote his lyrics last minute and didn’t put any thought into them

    • @user-kz8zn1jg1y
      @user-kz8zn1jg1y 6 лет назад +4

      ABRAVExSTOVE that’s what makes him a genius

    • @abravexstove289
      @abravexstove289 6 лет назад +5

      deadboyvivivi Kurt said he didn’t care about his lyrics nirvana was a great band because of the impact the had and their sound but their music is actually very simple from a musical theory standpoint

    • @MrVidification
      @MrVidification 6 лет назад +1

      Well, I suppose most artists considered to be 'greats' get far more tv coverage, but that's arguably due being more pop friendly with wider appeal. Many teenagers that went to live Nirvana gigs in the late 80s to 94 will be well into their 40s now. You might have to wait a while before they have a foothold in the media you consume, but I'm sure I've seen a Nirvana documentary or two on tv before. The last concert seems to be on here, Munich Germany 1994

  • @JohaDahlgaard
    @JohaDahlgaard Год назад +12

    “A waste of sperm and eggs” has to be one of the simplest but most effective insults out there.

  • @dejiita
    @dejiita 6 лет назад +19

    you forgot to add this as one big one. On October 30th, 1992, Nirvana were booked to play a major show in Buenos Aires, Argentina. They were so big at that point in time that they just about sold-out José Amalfitani Stadium, which can hold nearly fifty thousand people. Prior to their set, Kurt Cobain witnessed the negative reception their hand picked opening act received, and was so incensed that he considered canceling the gig. Nirvana ultimately did perform that night, but they were sloppy and their set-list was more than a little unusual, as they purposely incorporated rare songs from their catalogue that they knew most of the audience wouldn’t be familiar with, including a couple of unreleased numbers. It ended up being one of their oddest shows, and it was all captured on videotape by a professional film crew.“When we played Buenos Aires, we brought this all-girl band over from Portland called Calamity Jane,” Kurt recalled. “During their entire set, the whole audience-it was a huge show with like sixty thousand people-was throwing money and everything out of their pockets, mud and rocks, just pelting them. Eventually the girls stormed off crying. It was terrible, one of the worst things I’ve ever seen, such a mass of sexism all at once. Krist, knowing my attitude about things like that, tried to talk me out of at least setting myself on fire or refusing to play. We ended up having fun, laughing at them (the audience). Before every song, I’d play the intro to ‘Smells Like Teen Spirit’ and then stop. They didn’t realize that we were protesting against what they’d done. We played for about forty minutes, and most of the songs were off Incesticide, so they didn’t recognize anything. We wound up playing the secret noise song (‘Endless, Nameless’) that’s at the end of Nevermind, and because we were so in a rage and were just so pissed off about this whole situation, that song and whole set were one of the greatest experiences I’ve ever had.” (from Nirvana: The Chosen Rejects)

    • @jwdunn56
      @jwdunn56 6 лет назад +5

      This is one of my favorite "fuck-you's" Kurt ever gave.

  • @johnbing7653
    @johnbing7653 3 года назад +41

    Dude these people getting upset over women deserving the same treatment as men is fucking funny

  • @RougeBlisters
    @RougeBlisters 6 лет назад +103

    I live in Olympia, WA. Nirvana is everywhere (Not that I'm complaining.) I get my guitar lessons the same place Kurt would get his guitars fixed and they even have signed things from him and receipts of him crashing overnight hanging framed on the wall.
    I really enjoyed this video btw!! I love Nirvana and their messages and what they stood for, amazing job on this :)

  • @lunarscorpio3987
    @lunarscorpio3987 6 лет назад +29

    When I was young-(boy)-er, there was this guy who would sexually harass me without me knowing what harassment was. Obviously, he took advantage of my innocence since I was four at the time. He did this every time I visited his home because my mom was best friends with his mom and dad. Then there was this year when my mom told me about rape, I was eight at the time then we went to his home for a Christmas party and he lifted me up to the mirror and put his hand up my skirt and into my underwear. I knew something was wrong, my mom told me about it, and I managed to get out before it got worse, and I convinced him to let me go. When it came to the part where you talked about Polly and its story, I began crying. I was eight years old when it happened and when you said "Can you imagine how much strength that took?" I remembered what my mom said to me when I told her about it.

    • @sprucesoultree3833
      @sprucesoultree3833 4 года назад +1

      One of my friends was raped at a really young age too, the rapist was either a relative or a very close friend of the family. He was caught in the act by some family members, and the family forgave him after he apologized. I don't know if he was prosecuted for it, but he absolutely should be. My friend was traumatized, and their family did nothing to protect them. All they did was tell the rapist that what they did was wrong, instead of making them talk to a therapist.

  • @MrOuija-rr8kq
    @MrOuija-rr8kq 6 лет назад +186

    People are going to try to say “Oh well Feminism is different now”
    The same argument against the current wave of feminism has been the same argument FOR DECADES now.
    Just because people shape these arguments to be new doesn’t mean they are.

    • @Coldfront15
      @Coldfront15 6 лет назад +2

      Mr. Ouija They are though lmao, new problems cause new arguements.

    • @lloydgush
      @lloydgush 6 лет назад +7

      Yes, feminism, was never about gender equality (and I'm serious) that's why curtney is hailed as a feminist hero as well s kurt, even though she was frequently publicly abusive towards him and that she's recorded being sexually abusive towards people to this day.

    • @dekydavid6001
      @dekydavid6001 5 лет назад

      I’m a firm believer in equal rights and treating not just women but everyone with respect. That’s my problem with the very extreme form that has transformed an idea of equality to an idea of superiority. In my opinion it tarnishes and disrespects the hard work done by people like Susan B. Anthony, Elizabeth Stanton, and Lucretia Mott. I dunno I just think we should be kinder and more respectful of others. It’s something I’ve been working on myself and I have to say it’s so much nicer

    • @dekydavid6001
      @dekydavid6001 5 лет назад

      Mcfly Murderface no but those are rooted in fear, and fear is rooted in misunderstanding. The best we as people can do is help each other become more educated and stop reducing groups of people’s people into a single charicature

    • @wp6007
      @wp6007 5 лет назад +1

      Feminism is just as reactionary and backwards now as it was when it was first coined.

  • @bushidofreakz
    @bushidofreakz 5 лет назад +266

    No wonder he shot himself, he felt like no one of his fans understood him and his messages failed to reach them

    • @gaywoman420
      @gaywoman420 5 лет назад +43

      Bruv he shot himself mainly because Courtney Love was abusive.

    • @gabrielalejandroortizsanto1813
      @gabrielalejandroortizsanto1813 5 лет назад +44

      None of you have a clue about why Kurt killed himself. He killed himself because he became what he feared the most, a famous mainstream artist of his time.

    • @SteadyDecline-zc8mp
      @SteadyDecline-zc8mp 5 лет назад +21

      Movere Ergo Sum If by “he shot himself” you mean Courtney Love shot him then you’d be correct.

    • @mbtisocialclub
      @mbtisocialclub 5 лет назад +7

      Movere Ergo Sum no.. he shot himself because of how bad his stomach problems got. He used to take heroine to help treat it

    • @SteadyDecline-zc8mp
      @SteadyDecline-zc8mp 5 лет назад +8

      Hometown Rapper No mate he got medicine for it and eventually resolved the problem ruclips.net/video/gYlmulYxYyE/видео.html

  • @rossrutherford823
    @rossrutherford823 6 лет назад +93

    A Nirvana video! Heck Yeah! Cobain has literally been quoted as saying he wish he was gay, just so he could piss off homophobes." I always thought that was so cool, especially since Nirvana was the FIRST band I ever fell in love with as a confused bisexual teenager. Hearing that helped me come to terms with myself.
    I'll respect Kurt forever for that. He never forgot what it was like to "be different."

    • @TheFeralcatz
      @TheFeralcatz 6 лет назад

      Just to could piss off homophones?

    • @RobertJRoman
      @RobertJRoman 6 лет назад +2

      Just homophones or all homonyms generally?

    • @henryallen4158
      @henryallen4158 6 лет назад +11

      99 Bottles of Bleach what's your point?

    • @lloydgush
      @lloydgush 6 лет назад +1

      He wish he was gay so he wouldn't have to date someone who physically abused him in public and was hailed a feminist hero.
      Of course he never put in those words, but courtney love took the message.
      He put that in this way because feminism was never about equality and he never had a chance to complain.

    • @wp6007
      @wp6007 5 лет назад +2

      Sexuality is a capitalist lie

  • @kristielliott4464
    @kristielliott4464 6 лет назад +42

    Honestly I forgot how much Nirvana's music helped me . They've always been one of my favorite bands but as someone who has dealt with sexual assault listening to them really helped me in a time when I was down. I loved that Kurt aligned himself with topics that are still controversial today.

    • @dianana7371
      @dianana7371 4 года назад +6

      You should definitely listen to Hole too. Courtney Love is a great feminist song writer that really captures the female experience in terms of sexual oppression, beauty standards etc. Her lyrics are very dark though, sometimes to the point of triggering. But still, it's great how she channels pure female rage. Live through this is a great album, Pretty in the inside too if you like a more grungy, dark punk sound

  • @Ruby_Spacek
    @Ruby_Spacek 6 лет назад +83

    He's the one who likes all our pretty songs
    And he likes to sing along
    And he likes to shoot his gun
    But he knows not what it means
    Knows not what it means
    And I say yeah

  • @danigolightly799
    @danigolightly799 Год назад +18

    There was not a drop of toxic masculinity to be found in that band. One of the reasons why they’ve never stopped being a favorite of mine.

  • @pipomaggi
    @pipomaggi 6 лет назад +51

    just like punk rock was a response to prog rock, grunge was a response to all that glam metal shit that was a thing in early 90's; both with music and philosophy.
    great video, man. nirvana was such an important band to me as a teenager of the 90's. it's great to see that people still listen to their music and talk about their lyrics. cheers

    • @radiofloyd2359
      @radiofloyd2359 6 лет назад +1

      pipomaggi and then it all went to hell... (Creed, Radiohead [early], etc.)

    • @pipomaggi
      @pipomaggi 6 лет назад

      oh man, creed was the worse...

    • @heelstevenmaggle5615
      @heelstevenmaggle5615 6 лет назад

      Nickelback>Nirvana

    • @heelstevenmaggle5615
      @heelstevenmaggle5615 6 лет назад

      Dragon - mil50010
      I don't give a shit. I'm only writing the truth.

  • @Meme.Machine
    @Meme.Machine 6 лет назад +631

    Hey dude, cheers for including that "No means no" bit. That's awesome of you.

    • @webz3589
      @webz3589 6 лет назад +4

      so like everyone is tough anyway seriously you need some guy on the internet to tell you this stuff

    • @theocurtis02
      @theocurtis02 6 лет назад +7

      Actually, legally, no they can't. Rape is the act of inserting a penis into an orifice without consent. Women can sexually assault, which is virtually the same crime, but they can't rape (bullshit I know). I think the focus is on women because they make up almost all sexual assault victims and are far more likely to be sexually assaulted than a male. Although yes I agree, men can be sexually assaulted to, and it is very hard for a man to come forward and report this. A more general approcah the subject would be great

    • @oof-rr5nf
      @oof-rr5nf 6 лет назад

      Chongo Power I completely agree.

    • @lloydgush
      @lloydgush 6 лет назад

      Except when you are kurt cobain, than no only means no when you shot your own face instead of living through it.

    • @dickcheesehead9714
      @dickcheesehead9714 6 лет назад

      Because that's so stunning and brave to take that position.
      I'd be very careful with people that overcompensate this hard. Not for nothing that a lot of male feminists are sexual assaulters or rapists.

  • @AA-qb7ni
    @AA-qb7ni 3 года назад +74

    Wish Kurt was here today to educate the people who are still misogynistic today.

  • @antiksankarmajumder2498
    @antiksankarmajumder2498 3 года назад +19

    the more I'm learning about this guy, my respect for him is increasing manifold. His thoughts, lyrics and words are relatable entirely today. We need guys like him, man.

  • @FLtrailblazer
    @FLtrailblazer 5 лет назад +58

    The band was very ahead of their time and had strong messages on social issues which is really lacking in today's rock music. Most of the messages today are very cliche and marketed not genuine.

    • @shadowcween7890
      @shadowcween7890 3 года назад

      rock, while still being one of the top genres, is not in the spotlight the same way other kids of music are, like pop music mainly. I can guarantee that there at least a few bands or artists that sing about important things, but you just haven't heard of them yet since you may not listen to those genres

  • @jayncoclassic
    @jayncoclassic 4 года назад +295

    This is why I get so annoyed at all the anti social justice Warriors that act like being a kind person is new.
    There are so many alt-righters in the comments

    • @lilcrippie5927
      @lilcrippie5927 4 года назад +2

      Also a bunch of lefties

    • @saladman420
      @saladman420 4 года назад +35

      TomHasError lmao what’s wrong with being a leftie?

    • @frappe8855
      @frappe8855 4 года назад +7

      TomHasError because kurt was a leftie himself.

    • @lilcrippie5927
      @lilcrippie5927 4 года назад

      @@frappe8855 so why would there not be opposition

    • @frappe8855
      @frappe8855 4 года назад +15

      TomHasError never said there wouldn’t be, but it’s stupid to act like leftists watching a video about a leftist is the same as right wingers coming onto a video to complain about a leftist.

  • @tesstickle7960
    @tesstickle7960 5 лет назад +40

    This could make me cry. Such a wonderful soul

  • @shray_
    @shray_ 5 лет назад +50

    The world would have been a much better place if we had more people like Cobain!

    • @hardluck8732
      @hardluck8732 5 лет назад +5

      We have a lot of people like Kurt now...they are called Anti-fa

    • @shimp9824
      @shimp9824 5 лет назад +4

      I mean he was a heroin addict

    • @michaelregis1015
      @michaelregis1015 5 лет назад +2

      Yeah, if only we had more heroine addicts.

  • @mossyteef
    @mossyteef 5 лет назад +44

    Fantastic video, Jesus Christ, the respect I have for Nirvana and the messages they wanted to spread will never stop growing

  • @estherp4867
    @estherp4867 6 лет назад +29

    Truth. One issue I had with Christopher Cross' Cobain bio was how the author glossed over the grunge musician's feminist politics, and his involvement with riot grrl punks, his love of the Breeders, and advocating for Patty Schemel as a replacement drummer for Hole. Like somehow those things didn't correlate to his affection for his mother, sister, daughter, and Courtney Love. Or even the fact that the R&R HoF performances by Nirvana were all headed by women--a fact Cobain probably would've loved.
    I feel like the person who's really upholding the feminist legacy for Cobain and Nirvana is Krist Novoselic--or the dude who was in Nirvana with him for the longest amount of time, and the one who still has a serious pulse on the PNW punk scene. Not that anyone else associated with Nirvana is terrible, but Novoselic has done some pretty amazing things to ensure Nirvana's legacy remains entangled with the parallel riot grrl scene.

  • @04beni04
    @04beni04 5 лет назад +66

    I remember listening to Nirvana as a kid and getting frustrated because I knew I liked it but didn't know why. I felt like I could almost -- but not quite -- understand it. In retrospect, I can say they absolutely got me thinking. Not so much about feminism (dyed-in-the-wool feminist from birth, intersectional before it became trendy, never ashamed to say it, so no awakening needed there) but about what I expected from the music I listened to. I mean, I still loved the 80s pop/rock/metal that shaped my early childhood, but I know I thought a lot more critically about music and its messages after Nirvana happened.
    I feel privileged to have seen them in their prime.

    • @cremetangerine82
      @cremetangerine82 3 года назад +2

      That’s one of the reasons I liked the “Seattle” bands because they were openly feminist and felt like a corrective towards the sexism endemic in a lot of rock.

    • @mayajade6198
      @mayajade6198 2 месяца назад +1

      I was born right after the peak of Seattle rock, but I ended up having a really similar experience because my parents were really young and that was the music they were listening to when I was growing up. Their tastes eventually evolved away from old alt rock, but when I got older and started exploring my own music tastes, Nirvana, The Gits, and 7 Year Bitch ended up being the ones I came back to. There's a kind of anger in them that speaks to pains that just don't get talked about in popular music, and a willingness to cry about things that seem small and petty, because when the pain is too big to understand, it's the little itches and bugs that break you, and that doesn't mean you're shallow, that's just how it is.
      Weirdly, all three of these bands had a member die within like a year of each other. Not sure what that says about... well, anything. :/

  • @dsrtsnw
    @dsrtsnw Год назад +17

    this went straight to my comfort playlist. i regularly need a reminder men like kurt existed, exist at this very moment, somewhere. i just miss him and never even knew him. thank you kurt, thank you endlessly

    • @Exmuslim_caffeine
      @Exmuslim_caffeine Год назад +2

      i love contain dude, seeing people like andrew tate made me lose hope but i come to this video for comfort to know that men like kurt exist

  • @ClarenceDass
    @ClarenceDass 6 лет назад +21

    When I turned 14, an uncle of mine gave me 2 CDs. Nirvana's Nerermind and Pearl Jam's Ten.
    Yeah, Pearl Jam rocked and still does, but Nirvana just blew me away. It opened my musical world to punk and old indie bands and just felt like something that got me at the time.
    I have all their albums, Books and DVd and they are still my favorite band of all time. I knew they had songs that explored women's issues, but I never really stopped to think how it was such a big part of their music.
    Cheers for the video.

  • @ariekanibalie
    @ariekanibalie 6 лет назад +105

    I've noticed the people least receptive or sympathetic to Nirvana's 'feminist' leanings tend to be the most passionate floaters of Courtney killed Kurt conspiracy theories.

    • @Felix-vg4mv
      @Felix-vg4mv 5 лет назад +3

      Arno Theadorno Metal fans

    • @mattkierkegaard9403
      @mattkierkegaard9403 5 лет назад +7

      Cobain married the prototype “feminist” and killed himself to escape her. It says a lot about Cobain and his opinion of feminists

    • @kbaggott1
      @kbaggott1 5 лет назад

      maybe so

    • @AnthyLoneExoria
      @AnthyLoneExoria 5 лет назад +11

      @@mattkierkegaard9403 Like fucking hell she was. She regularly tears down women and abused her daughter. Fuck her and fuck you for saying that.

    • @Darkko88
      @Darkko88 3 года назад

      @@AnthyLoneExoria And yes she is still hailed as a feminist icon.

  • @maxmvalarezo
    @maxmvalarezo 6 лет назад +25

    Congrats on the video and especially on promoting "No Means No Worldwide"!

    • @simarillion666
      @simarillion666 5 лет назад

      @99 Bottles of Bleach But that is true. Feminism equals equality

  • @Dani-xl3bm
    @Dani-xl3bm 3 года назад +24

    Yep. I became a fan of the music as a child, but as an adult after reading books, watching interviews, quotes, etc. I also became a fan of Kurt as a person.
    He was a self admitted feminist, anyone doubting that should read or watch some of Kurt's interviews. He even played at Rock for Choice (pro choice benefit). He was against homophobia, racism, sexism, a lot of the issues important to so many today.
    Considering the amount of macho posturing bands did back in the 80s and 90s, I think it's awesome that Nirvana were so openly against that shit.

  • @helterskelter2927
    @helterskelter2927 5 лет назад +56

    Could this be similar to The Beatles not playing segregated audiences?

    • @Pheatan
      @Pheatan 4 года назад +12

      The Beatles didn't play segregated audiences because they are British. It wasn't progressive of them, it was regressive of the U.S culture.

    • @helterskelter2927
      @helterskelter2927 4 года назад +12

      @@Pheatan I never said it was progressive. I was comparing Nirvana's actions to The Beatles.

    • @shadowcween7890
      @shadowcween7890 3 года назад +8

      The Beatles refused to play in segregated concerts because of many factors, like not being from the U.S., being influenced by many soul artists of colour (that's why they called an album rubber soul), and other factors. Either way, they did a good thing

    • @hgarnet1682
      @hgarnet1682 3 года назад

      Well, yeah kinda

  • @selena3238
    @selena3238 4 года назад +115

    The right kind of feminism.

    • @MorgansTrainClips
      @MorgansTrainClips 3 года назад +11

      The kind that we need nowadays. Nowadays a bunch of assholes just hijacked the movement

    • @mondo3556
      @mondo3556 3 года назад +4

      @@MorgansTrainClips stfu

    • @MorgansTrainClips
      @MorgansTrainClips 3 года назад +8

      @@mondo3556 that’s the exact kind of intellectual response that I would expect from someone with a username like that lol, you just managed to perfectly represent everything wrong with modern politics

    • @mondo3556
      @mondo3556 3 года назад +1

      @@MorgansTrainClips I dont need to intellectually engage with someone making such an idiotic claim

    • @MorgansTrainClips
      @MorgansTrainClips 3 года назад +7

      @@mondo3556 yeah, you keep telling yourself that, kiddo

  • @SuperDungeonBoy
    @SuperDungeonBoy 6 лет назад +319

    " I NEVER met a wise-man If I did , It's a WOMAN ." ---Kurt Cobain

    • @yomomma912
      @yomomma912 5 лет назад +37

      "pretty misandrist of him if you ask me, still a cool guy tho" ---Me

    • @hardluck8732
      @hardluck8732 5 лет назад +29

      That might be the most cring thing I've ever heard.

    • @simarillion666
      @simarillion666 5 лет назад +6

      @@yomomma912 Stop

    • @strawberrypancake2866
      @strawberrypancake2866 5 лет назад +18

      @@simarillion666 he's right.

    • @homewardboundphotos
      @homewardboundphotos 5 лет назад +12

      "he also said sell the kids for food" and "It's okay to eat fish
      'Cause they don't have any feelings" not every song lyric was meant to be taking as a literal personal opinion you fucking weapon

  • @Billi_crow
    @Billi_crow 5 лет назад +40

    This is shit I literally tell everyone, Nirvana was incredibly woke and respectful. Kurt hung around women when he was younger and realised how language and music oppressed women. Fuck man, the rock scene rn needs to listen more closely to shit he wrote and said.
    “Never met a wise man
    If so it’s a woman”
    - Territorial Pissings, Nirvana

    • @Billi_crow
      @Billi_crow Год назад +3

      @Generic Name I think you might be applying a certain connotation to the term woke which is associated with 'whiny liberalism' but yes, Nirvana was woke. And you can be woke while having that punk attitude. being woke is punk.
      "If you're a sexist, racist, homophobe, or basically an asshole, don't buy this CD. I don't care if you like me, I hate you" - Kurt Cobain
      Sorry if you don’t like the word, but that’s what they were

  • @toastycabbagewaffles2115
    @toastycabbagewaffles2115 6 лет назад +173

    You need to do one for ELLIOTT SMITH

    • @clintmack3286
      @clintmack3286 6 лет назад +2

      Yes, and Jeff Buckley maybe together with his dad, some tortured guys.

    • @spacealienjesus709
      @spacealienjesus709 6 лет назад +1

      Toasty Cabbage Waffles Smith is a genius who is always overlooked

    • @martinhall3545
      @martinhall3545 6 лет назад +2

      its hard to understand elliott smith, one video wouldnt do him justice

    • @Foxygrandpa1912
      @Foxygrandpa1912 6 лет назад

      i love elliott smith

    • @Not_Mii_Uus
      @Not_Mii_Uus 6 лет назад

      Yessss Elliott is so underappreciated

  • @Shakespov
    @Shakespov 3 года назад +16

    When Men put down men for standing up for women it’s sad

  • @DrAnxiety17
    @DrAnxiety17 3 года назад +13

    I wanna slap my face when people say "Sappy" is about Kurt's turtle.

  • @MiskyMBA
    @MiskyMBA 3 года назад +53

    The comment section is filled with angry men who just discovered that their idol was a feminist.

  • @theembersinside1420
    @theembersinside1420 3 года назад +12

    Thank u4 making this video. Kurt was so upset when the exact abusive men who he talked about started listening to his music & singing along. The song "In Bloom" was a song written about those men. The inside joke was meant to show how they sang along, not knowing that what they were singing about went against everything they were. Kurt's songwriting & strength in his beliefs should be taught in music classes everywhere.

  • @Dauerschlaf
    @Dauerschlaf 6 лет назад +15

    I am glad a man voiced it (because so the anti-feminist movement has one point less to criticize) . Shared it on social media. Well done.

  • @dennisdebro5444
    @dennisdebro5444 3 года назад +15

    So many people in this comment section are so mad for no reason. Like they clearly don't know the definition of feminism and it SHOWS.

    • @dennisdebro5444
      @dennisdebro5444 3 года назад

      @ that's not 'today's feminism', it's performative feminism. There are still may organizations that are actually trying to tackle the bigger issues like rape, feminzide,
      the fact that in many countries woman are still seen as their husband's property, the fact that in many countries it is still allowed to rape woman on the streets, legalizing abortion,
      Getting rid of the wage gap
      ect...
      Just because most of the shit you see on Twitter, buzzfeed, Facebook or where ever you get your Information about feminism from is kind of ridiculous, doesn't mean that's all there is to it.

    • @dennisdebro5444
      @dennisdebro5444 3 года назад +2

      @ yeah see that's what I'm saying. That's not feminism. Feminism isn't 'hating men' it's wanting to be seen as an equal to them. Also feminists help with men's issues too. Like the fact that many male victims of SA are often looked down upon or told that they 'should've enjoyed it', like that's a thing that directly stems from the patriarchy and feminists are also against. Or that men's suicide rates are so high because they were always taught to supress their emotions. That's all things that feminism wants to stop, so it's not only for women's benefit, but for everyone's. Feminism isn't trying to take anything from men we just want the same things that men have for woman all across the globe. It's simple really, and beneficial to everyone. There'll always be extremists that are saying that they hate men, but every large movements has people like that. It's not what real feminism is though

    •  3 года назад +2

      @@dennisdebro5444 True. That extremists ruined the name of the “feminists” that leads to hate actual ones.

  • @McGillicuddy849
    @McGillicuddy849 2 года назад +10

    Nirvana changed the world for the better, throwing out misogyny and fascism from the mainstream. Anyone in the comments claiming feminism is cancer have a twisted idea of feminism, feminism is equality for men and women, ridding of oppression and misogyny.

  • @oldred9122
    @oldred9122 6 лет назад +229

    Wish Dave Grohl would've continued this activism instead of going more pop rock... That's the biggest gripe I have with the Foo

    • @TooCooFoYou
      @TooCooFoYou 5 лет назад +102

      At least he isn't doing it in Nirvana's name. He was at least respectful to Kurt Cobain and went his own route.

    • @mattkierkegaard9403
      @mattkierkegaard9403 5 лет назад +8

      Grohl wasn’t really in Nirvana though. He was hired help and that’s all. The basis for Nirvana was built in poverty in WA during the 80s. Grohl showed up in LA in the 90s.

    • @TooCooFoYou
      @TooCooFoYou 5 лет назад +90

      @@mattkierkegaard9403
      Dave Grohl appeared in 2 of the 3 albums by Nirvana (the 2nd, Nevermind, being the best-selling), went touring and hung out with Kurt and Kris. He was really in Nirvana all the way in the end. Sure he joined late, but Ringo joined the Beatles late and he's considered part of the band.

    • @gruesomewolfgaming4735
      @gruesomewolfgaming4735 5 лет назад +34

      @@mattkierkegaard9403 lol what, he was their drummer for 5 years, you're high.

    • @mattkierkegaard9403
      @mattkierkegaard9403 5 лет назад +5

      @@TooCooFoYou Did you ever hear what Chad Channing said about being in Nirvana - you were in the band but you were never in the know.
      Cobain & Novoselic started the band in Aberdeen, Washington 1987. If you weren't in it then you were never in it.
      Grohl was an employee and nothing more.

  • @Merdle
    @Merdle 5 месяцев назад +4

    How can you be truly punk rock without questioning gender roles?

  • @HauntedHarmonics
    @HauntedHarmonics 4 года назад +11

    "He's the one who likes all our pretty songs, and he likes to sing along, but he don't know what it means"

  • @meganb11
    @meganb11 Год назад +17

    It sucks how many people who claim to be nirvana fans who are misogynists, or bigots of any kind. kurt would hate literally hate their guts

    • @soumya9484
      @soumya9484 10 месяцев назад +6

      Now they are trying to twist it into a modern vs old feminism thing as if he would be happy with the state of women now in several countries. Idk how these misogynists are so ignorant to suffering, the whole Hamas thing has really shocked me and these people are still acting like women aren't constantly targeted.

  • @fraser7118
    @fraser7118 6 лет назад +252

    do a video on joy division and how they influenced indie music and mad chester

    • @wotelle545
      @wotelle545 6 лет назад +3

      Yes PLEASE

    • @sebastianelytron8450
      @sebastianelytron8450 6 лет назад +7

      Now that I've heard of him, I would be more interested in a video on Mad Chester. Sounds like an interesting fellow!

    • @fraser7118
      @fraser7118 6 лет назад +6

      its a genre of music from the city of manchester. manchester had a thriving indie scene and included some of the most influential bands of all time like the stone roses, oasis, the smiths, the happy mondays, the inspiral carpets and new order

    • @seventeenseconds1698
      @seventeenseconds1698 6 лет назад +6

      Deadass, b
      I can assure you Joy Division were not fascist. Sure, they had a Hitler Youth on one of their EP covers but that doesn’t automatically imply that they’re Nazis. Read into it, I’m sure you’ll see that they weren’t.

    • @ricardomarques5639
      @ricardomarques5639 6 лет назад +4

      the jam oasis were not apart of the mad chester movement, oasis were apart of the brit pop movement. Madchester ended in the 90s

  • @lavi_t
    @lavi_t 2 года назад +46

    This world needs more Kurt Cobain's.

  • @commierants
    @commierants 6 лет назад +25

    I loved this video, just about as much as I love Nirvana and their music. Nirvana was a band ahead of it's time, yet made it a whole generational movement. I feel like definitely the messages got lost among so many fans they had, and I can't claim that some of these songs meanings didn't miss me either. But I'm so glad they weren't afraid to speak out, and just be a booming voice among the crowd someone that they couldn't ignore.

  • @touyubin936
    @touyubin936 4 месяца назад +3

    I always feel like “Rape Me” is making fun of the idea of asking for it, like no one would bluntly tell someone to rape them, but somehow people still shrug off rape cases as girls in skimpy outfits asking for it, and hearing it said so bluntly shows how fucked up that idea is

  • @loux8070
    @loux8070 4 года назад +68

    Wow just looking at the dislikes shows how many salty people there are

    • @cryo311old
      @cryo311old 4 года назад +6

      There's a reason for that, there are misandrists who say they're feminists. They say the fight for equality even though they've demonstrated that they think women should be superior. Thanks to feminazis, the word feminist has become synonymous with misandry

    • @marcelosaletti1183
      @marcelosaletti1183 3 года назад +1

      @@cryo311old saying that misandry exists its the same that believing in reverse racism

    • @cryo311old
      @cryo311old 3 года назад +1

      @@marcelosaletti1183
      It does exist, also there is no such thing as “reverse racism,” racism is racism. Your arguments make no sense.

    • @marcelosaletti1183
      @marcelosaletti1183 3 года назад +3

      @@cryo311old No, it doesnt, there is no such thing as hatred for man. The only thing that may overwhelm man is inside of sexism, things like "man must be tough, and they cant be emotional, or they need to be alpha, etc", THIS can screw any man, but still under the idea of sexism, the same thing that is a huge problem for woman. There is a whole cultural and historical background to sexism, hundreds of years of sexism, misandry is just term for weak dudes who felt attacked by the reaction of all this hatred. Its the same for racism, racism against white people doesnt exist, in the west at least it doesnt

    • @cryo311old
      @cryo311old 3 года назад +1

      @@marcelosaletti1183
      There is a thing as hatred for men, dismissing that is sexist. Just like how misogyny is sexism towards women, misandry is sexism towards men. Sexism is simply just hatred or prejudice based on sex or gender, men do have hatred towards them.

  • @_black_bird
    @_black_bird 6 лет назад +469

    This video is gonna make some people mad, I can already feel it

    • @progrockdude2691
      @progrockdude2691 6 лет назад +49

      Well, it did make me feel disappointed as it showed (beautifully, btw, nothing against the video itself) Cobain truly did believe in what's now become a big pillar of modern feminism (which I heavily dislike even as a left-leaning person).

    • @MoistyFlesh1
      @MoistyFlesh1 6 лет назад +21

      I really hope it doesn't because it shouldn't

    • @MoistyFlesh1
      @MoistyFlesh1 6 лет назад +76

      I mean, mad at the channel, people should be mad because it's been fucking 30 years and people still don't get that being an asshole is not a good thing in general

    • @eval7952
      @eval7952 6 лет назад +8

      Everyone w a little common sense was a feminist back then but today if we had common sense we would be against feminism, or at least we would be MRAs.
      For ex, if we have 60/40 ratio women to men in college, when are gonna start pushing young men to go to college?

    • @coucoman13
      @coucoman13 6 лет назад +2

      aidan's angels no, that's a no true scotsman fallacy hon, I think its a bit past your bed time

  • @PaulTheSkeptic
    @PaulTheSkeptic 6 лет назад +237

    Ah, the 90's. Back when you could just be a feminist without a bunch of people telling you how wrong you are. Just look at the responses to this comment. Lol. I must admit I didn't know this. I guess I was one of the ones who liked all their pretty songs and liked to sing along, but I didn't know what it means.

    • @hashly8521
      @hashly8521 6 лет назад +3

      What response?

    • @PaulTheSkeptic
      @PaulTheSkeptic 6 лет назад +4

      Who could resist bait like that? Lol. I guess I overestimated the anti feminist presence on RUclips. I guess that's a good thing.

    • @elv42069
      @elv42069 6 лет назад +1

      and there you go someone who definitly understood what he commented on

    • @PaulTheSkeptic
      @PaulTheSkeptic 6 лет назад +2

      Maybe I should take this opportunity to point out that there definitely is a more extreme feminist presence that a lot of people think of when you say "feminist" that I don't wish to identify with. It's all very complicated. I guess the easiest way to say it is that I admire Christina Hoff Sommers. aka The Factual Feminist. And I tend to agree with the things I've heard Cobain say on the subject.

    • @PaulTheSkeptic
      @PaulTheSkeptic 6 лет назад +10

      So what you're saying is that it's like an agenda or like a conspiracy to get more feminism into the public? This is where all the RUclips anti sjw's and I part ways. I tend to agree with a lot of what they have to say but I don't think there's this vast conspiracy to pussyfy the world or whatever.

  • @clown454
    @clown454 3 года назад +20

    Now I respect Kurt Cobain even more

  • @shray_
    @shray_ 5 лет назад +34

    This is why I love Nirvana so much!
    Kurt Cobain was too smart & sensitive for a world like ours. His views were so ahead of his time & everything he said still holds true today.
    Sad that he had to take his own life!

    • @donda8021
      @donda8021 5 лет назад

      Shray you stan a white man?🤢

    • @michaelregis1015
      @michaelregis1015 5 лет назад +2

      Why is everyone riding Kurt's dick saying shit like "dUrrRR, kUrT CoBAin wAz tOo sMart fOr dIs wOrLd!"?

    • @clownassbutthead6378
      @clownassbutthead6378 4 года назад +1

      @@donda8021 rascism much

    • @donda8021
      @donda8021 4 года назад

      a creature of darkness y’all got shrimp 🍤 dicks lmao

    • @jaegerentertainment6865
      @jaegerentertainment6865 4 года назад +1

      He was the opposite of smart. He was a feminist, drug addict, smoker. People who’s views were ahead of their time were just wrong. Their is an objective truth and Kurt and people now days have new ideals and morals and they aren’t objectively true

  • @lesliemwangi
    @lesliemwangi 6 лет назад +13

    You make incredible content and I am glad that for Nirvana, you explained their lyrics, their message and how socially aware they were. Not just they are grunt and cool. This is a great video and I love that you teamed up with No Means No because things are very important. Your videos are very good and really inspire me, I appreciate your channel very much.

  • @lolwth8997
    @lolwth8997 6 лет назад +42

    An ad of Dave grohl came up before the video lol

  • @jeremynothing
    @jeremynothing 5 лет назад +7

    'Sappy' means so much more to me now. Thank you!

  • @bryan123483
    @bryan123483 6 лет назад +6

    Great video man. It's great to see someone focusing on these issues that were so important to Kurt. I was just old enough that my own views on the world were being shaped when Nirvana broke out into the mainstream. I gravitated heavily to them and picked apart kurts lyrics.
    I think this is how he would want us to remember him.

  • @toastycabbagewaffles2115
    @toastycabbagewaffles2115 6 лет назад +186

    Actually sappy was mainly written about his pet turtle who he kept in a laundry room.

    • @vitormelomedeiros
      @vitormelomedeiros 6 лет назад +7

      Toasty Cabbage Waffles but they're Nirvana, if there is one dead author, it is Kurt
      Also that's not the point

    • @briewhit1312
      @briewhit1312 6 лет назад +26

      that doesnt surprise me one bit, but plenty of allegory can be found within most of the bands songs

    • @TheCaptainnoU
      @TheCaptainnoU 6 лет назад +6

      that's one thing I like about Nirvana/Kurt song writing. You can interpret it in many ways depending on your personality.

    • @clintmack3286
      @clintmack3286 6 лет назад +11

      Most songs aren't about one subject, unless it's a Ramones song. ;-)

    • @Meccarox
      @Meccarox 6 лет назад +7

      It could be about multiple things at the same time.

  • @ziggy_starz
    @ziggy_starz 6 лет назад +45

    This was super interesting. I’ve never been much of a Nirvana fan and you’re completely right that it gets swept under the rug. I had no idea Cobain felt so strongly about these issues, absolutely radical.

    • @QueenFan12
      @QueenFan12 6 лет назад +4

      their not issues because everyone is equal now

    • @arnold-hu4vk
      @arnold-hu4vk 6 лет назад +8

      Queen Fan 12 'they are', and no, everyone is not equal now. Only if the 12 is a reference to your age is your comment understandable.

    • @QueenFan12
      @QueenFan12 6 лет назад +1

      how are people not equal?

    • @arnold-hu4vk
      @arnold-hu4vk 6 лет назад +9

      have a look around the world

    • @tylera2253
      @tylera2253 6 лет назад +1

      a.rnold Wow great response.

  • @savhannah9889
    @savhannah9889 5 лет назад +45

    I love this video. I've always enjoyed watching the exact people the song In Bloom is about sing along and claim they are huge Nirvana fans.

    • @louiso.4325
      @louiso.4325 4 года назад +4

      There’s a video where St Vincent says that Nirvana were feminist and this guy in the comment section kept calling everyone a bunch of “soy boys” for spreading lies. In Bloom is basically about him!

  • @pandapaws6174
    @pandapaws6174 6 лет назад +4

    So great to see the amazing charity plug at the end of this video. Also great video, was so awesome to see you covering these topics :)

  • @georgemoore4068
    @georgemoore4068 6 лет назад +90

    I’ve got a new drinking game. Take a shot of vodka for every comment you see saying that sappy was about a turtle.

    • @eliamor1782
      @eliamor1782 5 лет назад +7

      I now have liver poisoning

    • @LEO-xo9cz
      @LEO-xo9cz 5 лет назад +6

      Turtle
      Turtle
      Turtle
      Turtle
      Turtle

    • @ShadeATV
      @ShadeATV 4 года назад +1

      I died

    • @murraywatson9238
      @murraywatson9238 4 года назад

      Take a shot every time polyphonic says "sound"

  • @dabdabthethird2410
    @dabdabthethird2410 3 года назад +13

    If kurt was still alive most of the dudes in these comments would hate him

  • @eouroshopper4423
    @eouroshopper4423 4 года назад +51

    Not only a feminist but also a left wing revolutionary

    • @MorgansTrainClips
      @MorgansTrainClips 3 года назад +2

      They were left wing revolutionaries back in the days when the left wing supported free speech. He would’ve hated today’s leftists so much

    • @eouroshopper4423
      @eouroshopper4423 3 года назад +14

      @@MorgansTrainClips i can’t remember that the left was against free speech? Unless you’r one of those that claim that greta thunberg is a nazi...

    • @MorgansTrainClips
      @MorgansTrainClips 3 года назад +7

      @@eouroshopper4423 who the fuck is saying Greta Thunberg is a Nazi? I’ve never heard anyone unironically think that in my life. However, the CEOs of RUclips, Facebook, and Twitter are obviously anti free speech, with that being what I was referring to in my original comment

    • @eouroshopper4423
      @eouroshopper4423 3 года назад +2

      @@MorgansTrainClips i met a old guy on insta who claimed that Greta was a nazi becasue her ideology on renewable energy was a concept brought up by the Nazis and therefore also made her a nazi😂

    • @MorgansTrainClips
      @MorgansTrainClips 3 года назад

      @@eouroshopper4423 well I agree that guys an idiot but the fact that you used that as an example for why I’m wrong when there are probably a total of 10 people in the world who unironically believe that is kind of unfair imo