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Not surprised at all this team was not supposed to complete in playoffs last year aswell. AND now they got EXPOSED as fluke chumps with even BETTER ROSTER.
Possibly they would have been out of the playoffs series last year too,as they had at least 2 russian teams above them in the standings.Regardless, having one of the highest budgets while they are the trophy holders, proved not to be enough for them. Actually, this year has been a little dissapointing for Efes and i am curious to see how they will perform in the future, if forced to operate on a lower budget. No extra chance for them this year, so i guess they probably "forgot" that in order to be in the play offs and to the F4, they have to go through the regular seasons as well.
Well, the moment I saw Clyburn and Zizic signings i said it's over,because they won it with worse team last year. But as it happens with most superteams it didn't work that well
Ataman should have waited for the match to finish to leave. He put himself above the team by doing this. I do get why he’s disappointed but he’s the head coach, should’ve held his emotions better
@@universaInformation what did he wanted to do? Fight the whole fans in the stadium? Fans say a lot of things to the players/coaches, they should just accept it and keep it professional.. there is nothing you can do to the fans
Exactly. And his actions were actually self-defeating: Now that the Fenerbahce fans know that they can have an impact on him emotionally, you can bet that the next game they will chant even harder. And other teams' fan will also start doing it. In fact, if memory serves, Partizan or CZ fans were yelling for many minutes "F** y** Ataman" just last month; as well as some shouts directed at him in Berlin (I don't speak German). Guess, he is not the most likeable person. On the flip side, EL can consider passing profanity regulations, such as giving power to the refs to empty the stands or playing the next home game behind closed doors. At home, and at the arena, I would like to be able to watch the game with my children and I would rather not have them exposed to such language.
You removed Fenerbahçe, which was holding onto the playoffs with 3 victories from the Russians last year, from the playoffs with 1 vote, you are not the Turkish team, Efes, your enemy does not do what you do, look, now the same team has made you out of the playoffs.
Before Ataman was Efes coach all Fenerbahçe fans were supporting Efes and Efes was our hero but after Ataman become coach of Efes he totally destroyed our sympatie to Efes. Nine of the Fenerbahçe fan will support Efes till Ataman leave..
Actually why efes out is about 1) Efes players did not contribute well enough this season. 2) Ataman made some mistakes in scout engineering and play organisation he choose . After all it is Ataman's fault this year.
What a disappointment... Efes, who couldn't make the play-offs with the expulsion of the Russian teams and the budget of their squad. Disrespectfully leaving the field. What a shame... Classic GERGİN ATAMAN
I believe the reason Efes got knocked out partly lies in their performance these last few years. Efes always started the season with a bad record and managed to get their acts together towards the end and have long win series. Contrary to what most, if not all fans, and probably the team itself expected - It just didn't happen this year. Maybe they expected their two titles to win games for them, but lucky for us basketball fans, that's not how it works in Euroleague. You have to go on the court and give everything you got and get the W's. Even then, it looks like they will be missing the play off with just one game. Considering they lost 6 games this season by 3 or fewer points (2 of them in OT), they could easily be a contender for top 4. Especially if you count the losses against lower ranked teams such as Alba, Bayern (twice), and middle of the table teams directly competing for the last play-off spots Partizan and Baskonia, in all 4 games. What is quite interesting is their record against top 4 teams, either tied 1-1, or even got 2-0 (pending the R34 Monaco game). Again, this gives the impression that the team was extra motivated/prepared to play against the big name teams, and thought they would just manage against the rest, which was likely the reason of their downfall. All in all, did Efes play horribly bad this season? I think, no. The surprised reactions are mostly because they were expected to dominate the league for yet another season and they played just a little south of what would have been good enough. If you still aren't convinced, answer me this: Say you are Olympiacos or Real Madrid, and you finished the league in top spot. Would you be thrilled to match with a hypothetical 8th placed Efes, even with home court advantage?
Quite accurate diagnoses. Additionaly, this lack of motivation and arrogance are totally because of Ataman. He is terrible since 2022 euroleague final, lost every competetion since that. Best action for him and Efes would be seperating the roads apart.
@@universaInformation not true at all. He loves to put them in show that is all. All Turkish fans swears at him last 10 years including Karşıyaka, Bursa etc. so he is used to that. This is not a reason why he left. Ataman is a showman that's all.
Ataman left because Fenerbahce asked for challange when difference in score was 17 points, not for swearing, he should have get used to fener fans as they dont like him. This Ergin guy thinks himself a super coach or something, he has most expensive squad in euroleague, and he couldnt make the play offs, last year also he was not going to make play offs but Russian teams disqualified and the matches done with them ignored, first time in sports some thing like that i heard, thats why fenerbahce was eliminated and they were qualified.
@@timurjack8773 cska budget was always somewhere on the level of Spanish teams, sometimes lower. And I believe they have never had highest salaries in Europe. It has always been a good funding team however their stability was on a different level
@@user-ho6yz3ex5d Okay let's say Efes had 0 Player scouts - and he's a great player Scout ..He's a coach for like a billion years.. what what hes greatest achivment till Micic came ? Eurocup title ? There are Coaches who were lucky to be with the right Squad
@@user-ho6yz3ex5d He wasnt dominating anything for 22 years man , Eurocup ? Saporta ? this are low class Euro titles . 15 Years in the Euroleague with maybe 1 F4 apperance (In 2002!) before micic ? Im just stating He's Overrated , not a BAD coach . these are 2 diffrent things .
Thats the meaning of a "bad loser"...i mean like c'mon man,ok you didnt make the playoffs,so what? Cant u just be gentle and dont act like a lil girl who didnt take a present?
Ergin ataman Özelliklede Fenerbahçeye karşı büyük konuşuyordu Fenerbahçe deplasmanda yendi Şampiyon oldu Fenerbahçe sahasında yendi play oftan ettin ergin oldu tedirgin
fenerbahçe fans have a tredition of chanting curse and insults to him every fenerbahçe match that is why he left fenerbahçe never gets punished for this
What swearing are you talking about? Fener fans were chanting "Use doping" and "take a timeout" referring his two infamous habits. His players were involved several doping cases in the past and he always got away without any punishment. And he is also known to take timeout as victory cigar at the end of the games he already won, just to humiliate opponents. He also pissed off the last year's finals when Djordjevic took a last second timeout. He sees no problem when he disrespects opponents but he cries like a baby when he is handled the same way.
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Not surprised at all this team was not supposed to complete in playoffs last year aswell. AND now they got EXPOSED as fluke chumps with even BETTER ROSTER.
Possibly they would have been out of the playoffs series last year too,as they had at least 2 russian teams above them in the standings.Regardless, having one of the highest budgets while they are the trophy holders, proved not to be enough for them. Actually, this year has been a little dissapointing for Efes and i am curious to see how they will perform in the future, if forced to operate on a lower budget.
No extra chance for them this year, so i guess they probably "forgot" that in order to be in the play offs and to the F4, they have to go through the regular seasons as well.
No, theyve been in the bottom half for almost all season lol
Well, the moment I saw Clyburn and Zizic signings i said it's over,because they won it with worse team last year. But as it happens with most superteams it didn't work that well
Ataman should have waited for the match to finish to leave. He put himself above the team by doing this. I do get why he’s disappointed but he’s the head coach, should’ve held his emotions better
He left because fener fans was swearing at him, to avoid any incidents after the game he had to leave earlier.
@@universaInformation what did he wanted to do? Fight the whole fans in the stadium? Fans say a lot of things to the players/coaches, they should just accept it and keep it professional.. there is nothing you can do to the fans
Exactly. And his actions were actually self-defeating: Now that the Fenerbahce fans know that they can have an impact on him emotionally, you can bet that the next game they will chant even harder. And other teams' fan will also start doing it. In fact, if memory serves, Partizan or CZ fans were yelling for many minutes "F** y** Ataman" just last month; as well as some shouts directed at him in Berlin (I don't speak German). Guess, he is not the most likeable person.
On the flip side, EL can consider passing profanity regulations, such as giving power to the refs to empty the stands or playing the next home game behind closed doors. At home, and at the arena, I would like to be able to watch the game with my children and I would rather not have them exposed to such language.
@@phoenixUPC Absolutely spot on. Zvezda's fans yelled at him because of his ill-conceived comments on the killing of Marko Ivković.
Ataman, once again, shows his real face.
He left because fener fans was swearing at him, to avoid any incidents after the game he had to leave earlier.
@@universaInformation hahaha "Take timeout Ataman" and "Ergin use doping" that's what fans chanted And you say it's swearing 😭🧠
He is stepfather of all euroleague.
He is a Turk ....lol
@@universaInformation what swear?
He just showed disrespect to his own team and opponents, what an arse...
He left because fener fans was swearing at him, to avoid any incidents after the game he had to leave earlier.
@@universaInformation bullshit
Why no one is talking about Nigel's cats?
Last year voting against and kicking fener out of play-off.. this year being kicked out by fener out of play offs.. you cant make this shit up..
You removed Fenerbahçe, which was holding onto the playoffs with 3 victories from the Russians last year, from the playoffs with 1 vote, you are not the Turkish team, Efes, your enemy does not do what you do, look, now the same team has made you out of the playoffs.
He acts likes he’s better then the team.
Before Ataman was Efes coach all Fenerbahçe fans were supporting Efes and Efes was our hero but after Ataman become coach of Efes he totally destroyed our sympatie to Efes. Nine of the Fenerbahçe fan will support Efes till Ataman leave..
@@cyprusbackgammon3413 no matter if fener fans support or not, HE IS STEPDADDY OF ALL EUROLEAGUE TEAMS.
@@sonmezz_taha what did he managed to do? Even obra, mesinna and itoudis doesnt claim to be the father while they are aha ataman is a 🤡
Actually why efes out is about 1) Efes players did not contribute well enough this season. 2) Ataman made some mistakes in scout engineering and play organisation he choose
. After all it is Ataman's fault this year.
Shame on you Ataman
He left because fener fans was swearing at him, to avoid any incidents after the game he had to leave earlier.
he is shameless
@@universaInformation lier
As KK Split/Jugoplastika Fan,this does bring joy to my face knowing that we Are still last team that did 3-peat🟡🟡
As an Olympiacos fan I wish the best for Fener, my favorite Turkish team.
We love Olympiacos as Fenerbahçe fan too. You are doing great job. Hope we both play final at F4...❤
Thank you man ! As Fenerbahce fans, we wish the best for you as Olympiakos .
thanks for ur nice wishes for Us Olimpiacos we re together the biggest teams except of other teams I hope greetings ....
As a fenerbahce fan , i wish Olympiacos the best and so much luck .
Because he is stepfather of all euroleague.
What a disappointment... Efes, who couldn't make the play-offs with the expulsion of the Russian teams and the budget of their squad.
Disrespectfully leaving the field. What a shame... Classic GERGİN ATAMAN
Rats are always the first to leave sinking ship :)
I believe the reason Efes got knocked out partly lies in their performance these last few years. Efes always started the season with a bad record and managed to get their acts together towards the end and have long win series. Contrary to what most, if not all fans, and probably the team itself expected - It just didn't happen this year. Maybe they expected their two titles to win games for them, but lucky for us basketball fans, that's not how it works in Euroleague. You have to go on the court and give everything you got and get the W's.
Even then, it looks like they will be missing the play off with just one game. Considering they lost 6 games this season by 3 or fewer points (2 of them in OT), they could easily be a contender for top 4. Especially if you count the losses against lower ranked teams such as Alba, Bayern (twice), and middle of the table teams directly competing for the last play-off spots Partizan and Baskonia, in all 4 games.
What is quite interesting is their record against top 4 teams, either tied 1-1, or even got 2-0 (pending the R34 Monaco game). Again, this gives the impression that the team was extra motivated/prepared to play against the big name teams, and thought they would just manage against the rest, which was likely the reason of their downfall.
All in all, did Efes play horribly bad this season? I think, no. The surprised reactions are mostly because they were expected to dominate the league for yet another season and they played just a little south of what would have been good enough. If you still aren't convinced, answer me this: Say you are Olympiacos or Real Madrid, and you finished the league in top spot. Would you be thrilled to match with a hypothetical 8th placed Efes, even with home court advantage?
Quite accurate diagnoses. Additionaly, this lack of motivation and arrogance are totally because of Ataman. He is terrible since 2022 euroleague final, lost every competetion since that. Best action for him and Efes would be seperating the roads apart.
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Ataman never loses. He just leaves.
He left because fener fans was swearing at him, to avoid any incidents after the game he had to leave earlier.
@@universaInformation not true at all. He loves to put them in show that is all. All Turkish fans swears at him last 10 years including Karşıyaka, Bursa etc. so he is used to that. This is not a reason why he left. Ataman is a showman that's all.
@@universaInformation nah he is just a big wussy and crybaby
@@universaInformation what a looser. You wrote in almost every comment. Accept this now. Ataman succumbed to his ego and went mad.
3 işareti yapiyordun yapacaktın ne oldu çekirge 1 zıplar 2 zıplar 3 de zırtlar
Ataman left because Fenerbahce asked for challange when difference in score was 17 points, not for swearing, he should have get used to fener fans as they dont like him. This Ergin guy thinks himself a super coach or something, he has most expensive squad in euroleague, and he couldnt make the play offs, last year also he was not going to make play offs but Russian teams disqualified and the matches done with them ignored, first time in sports some thing like that i heard, thats why fenerbahce was eliminated and they were qualified.
Game of the man is ataman. Actor katagory
Not easy to join Final Four 4 or 5 times in a row. Efes only joined 3 times in a row. (2019-2022)
Fenerbahçe joined 5 times in a row. (2015-2019)
Try to count how much times in a row cska had joined F4, it will surprise you
@mindaugas , not really, because CSKA always had the highest budget.
@@timurjack8773 cska budget was always somewhere on the level of Spanish teams, sometimes lower. And I believe they have never had highest salaries in Europe. It has always been a good funding team however their stability was on a different level
@@mindaugas4374 and non existent taxing rate almost, makes a MASSIVE difference
Ataman is the most overrated coach in european history.
yes with 4 different teams 4 different category... and 6 european cups... he is stepfather of yours.
@@user-ho6yz3ex5d Lets see Efes after Micic and Larkin and you will find out .
@@user-ho6yz3ex5d Okay let's say Efes had 0 Player scouts - and he's a great player Scout ..He's a coach for like a billion years.. what what hes greatest achivment till Micic came ? Eurocup title ?
There are Coaches who were lucky to be with the right Squad
@@user-ho6yz3ex5d He wasnt dominating anything for 22 years man , Eurocup ? Saporta ? this are low class Euro titles .
15 Years in the Euroleague with maybe 1 F4 apperance (In 2002!) before micic ?
Im just stating He's Overrated , not a BAD coach . these are 2 diffrent things .
@@user-ho6yz3ex5d again this does not dispute what i say , he is decent coach imo , yet overrated imo .
Lets agree to disagree.
Thats the meaning of a "bad loser"...i mean like c'mon man,ok you didnt make the playoffs,so what? Cant u just be gentle and dont act like a lil girl who didnt take a present?
BEST EUROLEAGUE GAME IN THIS SEASON... TWO TURKISH GIANTS...
Only for the record. One turkish player played for exactly 00:05. turkish giants really?
Ataman is arrogant....
BECAUSE HE IS STEPFATHER OF YOURS.
@@sonmezz_taha He is a clown🤡 mongolian
l was expecting because team full of success since 3 years thats why they lost
Based Ataman!
Fenerbhace mascot😅
RESPECT TO COACH ATAMAN.
Ataman is a peach
Ergin ataman Özelliklede Fenerbahçeye karşı büyük konuşuyordu Fenerbahçe deplasmanda yendi Şampiyon oldu Fenerbahçe sahasında yendi play oftan ettin ergin oldu tedirgin
2:41 sweet lord arent you a beauty??Who cares about Ataman😂😂
Φανταστειτε να παει Παναθηναϊκό πόσες φορές θα φύγει έτσι 😂
fenerbahçe fans have a tredition of chanting curse and insults to him every fenerbahçe match that is why he left fenerbahçe never gets punished for this
crybaby
Kardeşim hiçbir taraftar durup dururken küfür etmez Ergin atamanın Fenerbahçeye karşi taraftarina karşi bundan önce söylediklerini bilmiyormusun
@@Fenerbahce-ph7tn ne bileyim fetönün camiasını çok takip etmiyorum
this is fenerbahce fans unrespectful
Clown.
Güle güle mongols
Olımpıkos never win euroleague this season again.
Just dont get me wrong guys BUT this Euroleague in few years is gonna be Africaleague
He left because fener fans was swearing at him, to avoid any incidents after the game he had to leave earlier. he was told to leave!!!
False, no one told him to leave early. It's like the captain jumping first when the boat's about to sink lol, pure class ataman 😆
you keep comment the same thing everywhere while you know nothing. Just shut up.
What swearing are you talking about? Fener fans were chanting "Use doping" and "take a timeout" referring his two infamous habits. His players were involved several doping cases in the past and he always got away without any punishment. And he is also known to take timeout as victory cigar at the end of the games he already won, just to humiliate opponents. He also pissed off the last year's finals when Djordjevic took a last second timeout. He sees no problem when he disrespects opponents but he cries like a baby when he is handled the same way.