oh i knew. i was deeply affected by everyone's bullsh'*t. pissing on him. that's the greatest defensive mind the game ever saw and you guys treated him like he was a bum. you got spoiled is what happened. Now you see. Now, you see. we had indy held to 10 pts and kraft lost his mind because we lost the game and who does he blame? your defense was stellar yet he came down on bill? why not the QB you been wrapping your lips around? he fires bill cause the offense stunk? that makes no sense and you deserve this. You are overwhelmed and totally mediocre. and if you bring in another coach it's only going to get worse. because an outsider has no idea what your in house boys know better. your guys can't even fix this. cause they didn't understand bill. kraft didn';t respect bill and it showed. but he should have kept it to himself,
Last year BB's defense allowed a total of 238 points in 10 weeks, they had a week 11 bye. Jerod Mayo's defense after 10 weeks allowed 220 points. Yeah we are really missing BB's defense. Again you guys prove you know nothing about football and you guys just talk straight outta your a**es. Bunch of losers hosting this show
It is that simple. Overall the team was better last season but they had a really bad QB. The fact that they lost about 8 or 9 games with one score is proof of that. Mac Jones and later Zappe threw really bad picks in all those close loses.
@@Tsepete The Pats have lost many low-scoring games by 1 score this season too, but the QB play is getting nowhere near the same amount of fan criticism as Mayo/Covington/the defense are getting, despite also making critical, game-changing errors. It makes no sense.
I do not. I miss having a good coach. We had to move on because: - He was 72yo - Had a terrible draft streak for more than half a decade, and almost as bad for a whole decade - His teams the last 3 years have been making countless mistakes, that you never associated with a BB-coached team before - The FO was, and still is, a massive problem and he was at the core of it The problem is that they fired him and kept the FO, that was part of the terrible decisions. Other than Maye, which is a pick anyone with half a working brain cell would’ve made, every other pick from this draft has been terrible.
We dont just miss him defensively. We traded the GOAT for a dude thats never even been a coordinator. Matt freaking patricia is literally more qualified than mayo is…
@@LAKEVILLEMA Bill's horrible decision-making is what led to the lunatic lateral. He was losing it over the last 2 seasons but because the offense sucked so bad, he was cut a lot of slack.
@LAKEVILLEMA bill would have drafted a safety or d line not Drake. BB was the worse GM in the last 10 years. He was awful. 4 wins for the goat coach says it all
This is a poor argument because you would never have Bill just as a defensive coordinator. He would have drafted poorly again, and we would have probably had Bryan Hoyer come out of retirement to be the starting qb, or Jimmy G. I wish Brian Flores was still here as defensive coordinator and Mike Vrabel as the HC, and bring back McDaniels as the OC. That’d be my dream coaching staff. Oh and get a real pro GM. I like Mayo but he wasnt ready, Bill never brought him along. I don’t think Kraft will fire him, that’s a Browns/jets type move, and he doesn’t wanna be like those teams. Give him at least 2 years, and a real GM please…
Last year BB's defense allowed a total of 238 points in 10 weeks, they had a week 11 bye. Jerod Mayo's defense after 10 weeks allowed 220 points. Yeah we are really missing BB's defense. Again you guys prove you know nothing about football and you guys just talk straight outta your a**es. Bunch of losers hosting this show
Really no idea how Mayo who is a defensive player coached under the greatest defensive minded coach has a team that is terrible on defense….just mind boggling.
maybe this is a hot take, but i'd rather have what we have now vs bill and his poor draft choices recently, which has gotten us where we are today. give mayo time.
I’ve been saying since that Monday when we found out Malcom Butler was sick and missed a meeting by 5 minutes! How do you throw a Super Bowl over 5 minutes?
@ Yes, he was sick and late by 5 minutes for a meeting! Good reason to BENCH your star CB! How many yards did Foles throw for in that Super Bowl again? 370? Yeah smart move by Belliturd!
Number one vs the run and number 9 vs the pass with an infinitely tougher schedule than this year. Also lost most of their secondary to injuries and were throwing 6 stringers on the field.
@@deadlata9767 They were not playing "6 stringers" lol, whatever those are. They also had Barmore, Bentley, Dugger and Peppers playing healthy all year. Plus, their schedule last year was not "infinitely tougher", because going in, many experts were saying that the Pats this season had a top 8-7ish toughest strength of schedule out of all the other teams. I got to say, with the exception of bringing up the run defense, you are displaying some pretty intense mental gymnastics.
Who cares. Bill would have traded out of the 3 spot to pick up an extra 2nd round pick that he’d use on some scrub defensive back and the hellish rebuild would continue on with no end in sight. At least we have a QB now. It gets a whole lot easier to navigate team building when the most important piece is on the board.
The 2011 Patriots defense wasn’t that bad and played very well in the playoffs. Those numbers are very misleading. It seems like that unit is scapegoated so much when it was Brady with his best supporting cast of receivers was shut down by the giants.
No. I know I'm going to get a lot of crap for this but the Pats defense has been a very overrated unit ever since the blowout game against Buffalo in the wild card round. They'd look very good against crappy teams and would either struggle or just flat-out suck against good teams, and they almost never got criticized because the offense was just that bad. I don't care how much people don't like Mayo, Bill and his terrible decisions were the reason why the Lunatic Lateral happened. I'm appreciative of everything he did, but it was time to move on.
Last year BB's defense allowed a total of 238 points in 10 weeks, they had a week 11 bye. Jerod Mayo's defense after 10 weeks allowed 220 points. Yeah we are really missing BB's defense. Again you guys prove you know nothing about football and you guys just talk straight outta your a**es. Bunch of losers hosting this show
Bill wasn’t the problem. Quarterback was. Jacoby with new oc sucked like Mac would. Now maye is in an now all the sudden we can score. Should have kept bill and let bill get Daniels or maye. But nope now we are stuck with Mayo
I would miss him a if he was DC. We will need tears to recover from his crappy 0:48 drafts and not giving a shit aboutvthe offense. Plus he is a jerk. Never won as a HC without Brady..don't miss him at all it is fin to watch again at least.
You just made that up. Seems to be a popular lie amongst casuals. I’m guessing he critiqued players while being paid to critique players and so the casual mind thinks these were personal attacks.
@ nope watch the live draft coverage of Bill on McAfee. He makes it very known that he was not impressed by him. I don’t take as personal attack on at all I just see it as another reason why Bill was not good at identifying offensive talent in recent years. He had two chances in the first round at Lamar Jackson in 2018 and took Sony Michel and Isaiah Wynn while even the “casual fan” knew we should’ve taken Lamar like give me a break. All the Bill groupies are the ones who take it as a personal attack if anyone points out his flaws.
Everyone killed AVP for not having play calling experience, but we clearly overlooked Mayo not being a play caller and promoting Covington who also doesnt have play calling experience. It's not just losing Bill, but Steve Belichick too.
@@emmanuelcalderon1982 Steve's play-calling was flawed as f**k, the defense almost always struggled against offenses that were actually good. Give Covington and Mayo time, they did an amazing job in the Bears game.
@Scott_Dunbar_II they went against a rookie QB with an O Line missing two starters of course they should have done an amazing job! If they can't put your star corner on one of their star receivers then I'm sorry they are in over their heads.
@@emmanuelcalderon1982 And that same rookie QB (with a slightly better O-line) was a blocked field goal away from winning against a very good and talented Packers team. Your giving Mayo and Covington crap for keeping Gonzo on the boundary all game, but there was a game (the Lunatic Lateral game) where the Pats literally would've won the game if they just got 1 more stop on 4th and 10 (Raiders had no timeouts), and Steve and Bill had the defense play PREVENT, and they ended up losing the game. I don't care what you think, no decision Mayo or Covington may make during the rest of this season will even come close to being as stupid as that.
@@Scott_Dunbar_II well we clearly don't see things the same way and to be clear I in no way want Mayo or Covington to fail, but I think it's clear that they but off more they could chew and Mayo would have been better off hiring an experienced DC.
@@emmanuelcalderon1982 All good. I still think it's dumb how last season, Pats lost many low scoring games (where the offense made bad mistakes) by 1 score, and everyone blamed the QB. This season, the Pats have lost many low scoring games (where the offense made bad mistakes) by 1 score, and everyone is blaming the defense. The takeaway? Last year's defense wasn't as good as people say it is, while this year's defense isn't as bad as people say it is.
@ really because they played 8 backups last year. So far this year they’ve played 2 Rudolph and Huntley. Last year they played Simien, Zack Wilson, Tommy Devito, Sam Howell and so on
@@deadlata9767 Assuming the teams on the rest of Pats schedule stays healthy, they've got like the 4th toughest schedule in the league. Stop bullsh*tting.
Leave Bill alone. Just let him marry his great granddaughter.
oh i knew. i was deeply affected by everyone's bullsh'*t. pissing on him. that's the greatest defensive mind the game ever saw and you guys treated him like he was a bum. you got spoiled is what happened. Now you see. Now, you see.
we had indy held to 10 pts and kraft lost his mind because we lost the game and who does he blame? your defense was stellar yet he came down on bill? why not the QB you been wrapping your lips around? he fires bill cause the offense stunk? that makes no sense and you deserve this. You are overwhelmed and totally mediocre. and if you bring in another coach it's only going to get worse. because an outsider has no idea what your in house boys know better. your guys can't even fix this. cause they didn't understand bill.
kraft didn';t respect bill and it showed. but he should have kept it to himself,
Last year BB's defense allowed a total of 238 points in 10 weeks, they had a week 11 bye.
Jerod Mayo's defense after 10 weeks allowed 220 points. Yeah we are really missing BB's defense. Again you guys prove you know nothing about football and you guys just talk straight outta your a**es. Bunch of losers hosting this show
The reason Bill isn't here anymore is because he drafted Mac Jones. It's that simple.
@@kop3055 it’s not that simple your that simple.
It is that simple. Overall the team was better last season but they had a really bad QB. The fact that they lost about 8 or 9 games with one score is proof of that. Mac Jones and later Zappe threw really bad picks in all those close loses.
@@Tsepete The Pats have lost many low-scoring games by 1 score this season too, but the QB play is getting nowhere near the same amount of fan criticism as Mayo/Covington/the defense are getting, despite also making critical, game-changing errors. It makes no sense.
Kraft drafted Mac Jones. Bill didn’t want him, and then later got denied when he wanted to trade him away.
Or the other dozen high pick busts
HELL NO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I do not. I miss having a good coach. We had to move on because:
- He was 72yo
- Had a terrible draft streak for more than half a decade, and almost as bad for a whole decade
- His teams the last 3 years have been making countless mistakes, that you never associated with a BB-coached team before
- The FO was, and still is, a massive problem and he was at the core of it
The problem is that they fired him and kept the FO, that was part of the terrible decisions. Other than Maye, which is a pick anyone with half a working brain cell would’ve made, every other pick from this draft has been terrible.
People will get mad at this because it’s the truth. I agree with you 1000%
Bring Back Bill..!
We dont just miss him defensively. We traded the GOAT for a dude thats never even been a coordinator. Matt freaking patricia is literally more qualified than mayo is…
@@austinlowell8829 the Media is just now starting to admit Mayo wasn’t even a real co DC. This guys a joke.
I so wish Bill was back. Mayo is so bad he's costing us games at this point.
You’re an idiot
@@LAKEVILLEMA Bill's horrible decision-making is what led to the lunatic lateral. He was losing it over the last 2 seasons but because the offense sucked so bad, he was cut a lot of slack.
@LAKEVILLEMA bill would have drafted a safety or d line not Drake. BB was the worse GM in the last 10 years. He was awful. 4 wins for the goat coach says it all
If Bill had this team with Josh as OC this team would be middle of the pack
Lol yea right
@@eddyband026it’s literally obvious u have no ball knowledge
Bill never would take Maye. So your saying
Zappe has this awful team in the playoff hunt.
@ the stupidity that is you
Definitely don’t miss him.
Me neither. We wouldn't have Maye that's for sure
I'll just say this, and I know it's off topic, but if Bill Belichick was still here, Drake Maye wouldn't.
and i'll just say this.....if he don't get that footwork figured out this will be the best season he ever had.
Ills team put them in position to draft Maye how do you know
@@randomflagg7331you are know nothing casual, stop repeating pre draft media BS
@@EastieRickhe literally said he wouldn't of drafted Maye 🤦
Thank you these people are morons Bill was awful his last few years
The voice in the background,huge distraction!
I said that to girl once
Mazz could not wait to say "indisputabley"
Yes the coverage was bad. He dove for the ball when he had no help. That’s bad coverage.
This is a poor argument because you would never have Bill just as a defensive coordinator. He would have drafted poorly again, and we would have probably had Bryan Hoyer come out of retirement to be the starting qb, or Jimmy G. I wish Brian Flores was still here as defensive coordinator and Mike Vrabel as the HC, and bring back McDaniels as the OC. That’d be my dream coaching staff. Oh and get a real pro GM. I like Mayo but he wasnt ready, Bill never brought him along. I don’t think Kraft will fire him, that’s a Browns/jets type move, and he doesn’t wanna be like those teams. Give him at least 2 years, and a real GM please…
Exactly the level of stupidity in this teams media is amazing and then most of the fans are even stupider some how
Of course they miss him defensively,if belichek was still the coach this team would have a good chance at the playoffs
😂😂😂 ya right…we wouldn’t have drake maye
@eddyband026 Kraft would have pushed belichek to draft maye like he did jones
Last year BB's defense allowed a total of 238 points in 10 weeks, they had a week 11 bye.
Jerod Mayo's defense after 10 weeks allowed 220 points. Yeah we are really missing BB's defense. Again you guys prove you know nothing about football and you guys just talk straight outta your a**es. Bunch of losers hosting this show
@@UpChuckTheBoogieso he’d be playing Jacoby
@@jayy88 No way
Really no idea how Mayo who is a defensive player coached under the greatest defensive minded coach has a team that is terrible on defense….just mind boggling.
He wasn't fired for his work as a defensive coach. If Bill had his druthers, Drake Maye would be huddling with Matty P and Joe Judge right now.
Yes, I miss Belichick benching CB Malcolm Butler in the Super Bowl.
maybe this is a hot take, but i'd rather have what we have now vs bill and his poor draft choices recently, which has gotten us where we are today. give mayo time.
Are they at Barney's bar in southie?
Definitely dont miss him at all. He can go kick rocks
After his betrayal in Super Bowl LII, I would have FIRED him!!!!!!!!!!
I’ve been saying since that Monday when we found out Malcom Butler was sick and missed a meeting by 5 minutes! How do you throw a Super Bowl over 5 minutes?
And that would have been a stupid decision considering what happened the very next year
Malcolm butler got benched for a reason.
@@DMKFACTORhe was playing like crap anyway
@ Yes, he was sick and late by 5 minutes for a meeting! Good reason to BENCH your star CB! How many yards did Foles throw for in that Super Bowl again? 370? Yeah smart move by Belliturd!
Not really defense was not all that great the last two years of his tenure
Not a popular take, but it's one that I wholeheartedly agree with. Respect.
Number one vs the run and number 9 vs the pass with an infinitely tougher schedule than this year. Also lost most of their secondary to injuries and were throwing 6 stringers on the field.
@@deadlata9767 They were not playing "6 stringers" lol, whatever those are. They also had Barmore, Bentley, Dugger and Peppers playing healthy all year. Plus, their schedule last year was not "infinitely tougher", because going in, many experts were saying that the Pats this season had a top 8-7ish toughest strength of schedule out of all the other teams. I got to say, with the exception of bringing up the run defense, you are displaying some pretty intense mental gymnastics.
MARK MY WORDS BILL WILL GET ANOTHER RING, YES OR NO 👇
Why is this being recorded in the middle of a room with like a talent show or something happening lol
If you’re gonna ask this question u also have to include do you miss him as GM?
Who cares. Bill would have traded out of the 3 spot to pick up an extra 2nd round pick that he’d use on some scrub defensive back and the hellish rebuild would continue on with no end in sight.
At least we have a QB now. It gets a whole lot easier to navigate team building when the most important piece is on the board.
The 2011 Patriots defense wasn’t that bad and played very well in the playoffs. Those numbers are very misleading. It seems like that unit is scapegoated so much when it was Brady with his best supporting cast of receivers was shut down by the giants.
No. I know I'm going to get a lot of crap for this but the Pats defense has been a very overrated unit ever since the blowout game against Buffalo in the wild card round. They'd look very good against crappy teams and would either struggle or just flat-out suck against good teams, and they almost never got criticized because the offense was just that bad. I don't care how much people don't like Mayo, Bill and his terrible decisions were the reason why the Lunatic Lateral happened. I'm appreciative of everything he did, but it was time to move on.
I knew wen he left our defense was goin suck 🤣🤣🤦🏽♂️ yall ain’t think about dat part
Last year BB's defense allowed a total of 238 points in 10 weeks, they had a week 11 bye.
Jerod Mayo's defense after 10 weeks allowed 220 points. Yeah we are really missing BB's defense. Again you guys prove you know nothing about football and you guys just talk straight outta your a**es. Bunch of losers hosting this show
Fraud - Zero in Cleveland - Zero without Brady
such a bad take
Bill wouldnt have drafted maye so no
Bill wasn’t the problem. Quarterback was. Jacoby with new oc sucked like Mac would. Now maye is in an now all the sudden we can score. Should have kept bill and let bill get Daniels or maye. But nope now we are stuck with Mayo
I would miss him a if he was DC. We will need tears to recover from his crappy 0:48 drafts and not giving a shit aboutvthe offense. Plus he is a jerk. Never won as a HC without Brady..don't miss him at all it is fin to watch again at least.
@@cytkapraskievicz6616 really with a shit DEI coach guess you like color over competence.
Woody clearing the Jets deck for Belichick.
Won’t happen. Either Dallas, Philly, or Jax
Of course they do.
Defense yes..Offense NO NO NO.
Totally missed and you all wanted him out. You got exactly what you wanted
They miss Steve, not Bill
Defense only yes!
We’d have no Drake Maye if Bill stayed good riddance!! 👋🏻
You just made that up. Seems to be a popular lie amongst casuals. I’m guessing he critiqued players while being paid to critique players and so the casual mind thinks these were personal attacks.
@ nope watch the live draft coverage of Bill on McAfee. He makes it very known that he was not impressed by him. I don’t take as personal attack on at all I just see it as another reason why Bill was not good at identifying offensive talent in recent years. He had two chances in the first round at Lamar Jackson in 2018 and took Sony Michel and Isaiah Wynn while even the “casual fan” knew we should’ve taken Lamar like give me a break. All the Bill groupies are the ones who take it as a personal attack if anyone points out his flaws.
Yes
I miss him as A HC, but i dont miss him as a GM.
Bill as a coach now = Aaron Rogers as QB… too old and out of place… only TB12 can push the limit, but even TB cave to Father Time…
How could we miss a guy that couldn't get us to the playoffs the last 3 years. Damn I'm sick of y'all sh##
Everyone killed AVP for not having play calling experience, but we clearly overlooked Mayo not being a play caller and promoting Covington who also doesnt have play calling experience. It's not just losing Bill, but Steve Belichick too.
@@emmanuelcalderon1982 Steve's play-calling was flawed as f**k, the defense almost always struggled against offenses that were actually good. Give Covington and Mayo time, they did an amazing job in the Bears game.
@Scott_Dunbar_II they went against a rookie QB with an O Line missing two starters of course they should have done an amazing job! If they can't put your star corner on one of their star receivers then I'm sorry they are in over their heads.
@@emmanuelcalderon1982 And that same rookie QB (with a slightly better O-line) was a blocked field goal away from winning against a very good and talented Packers team. Your giving Mayo and Covington crap for keeping Gonzo on the boundary all game, but there was a game (the Lunatic Lateral game) where the Pats literally would've won the game if they just got 1 more stop on 4th and 10 (Raiders had no timeouts), and Steve and Bill had the defense play PREVENT, and they ended up losing the game. I don't care what you think, no decision Mayo or Covington may make during the rest of this season will even come close to being as stupid as that.
@@Scott_Dunbar_II well we clearly don't see things the same way and to be clear I in no way want Mayo or Covington to fail, but I think it's clear that they but off more they could chew and Mayo would have been better off hiring an experienced DC.
@@emmanuelcalderon1982 All good. I still think it's dumb how last season, Pats lost many low scoring games (where the offense made bad mistakes) by 1 score, and everyone blamed the QB. This season, the Pats have lost many low scoring games (where the offense made bad mistakes) by 1 score, and everyone is blaming the defense. The takeaway? Last year's defense wasn't as good as people say it is, while this year's defense isn't as bad as people say it is.
Another dumb felger take. No one thought Bill couldn't coach anymore. It was a culture thing, the culture thing was over.
No they miss playing Zack Wilson and Tommy Devito. They miss Bently and peppers and Judon and until Sunday they missed Barmore
Team played a way tougher schedule last year
@ really because they played 8 backups last year. So far this year they’ve played 2 Rudolph and Huntley. Last year they played Simien, Zack Wilson, Tommy Devito, Sam Howell and so on
@@deadlata9767 Assuming the teams on the rest of Pats schedule stays healthy, they've got like the 4th toughest schedule in the league. Stop bullsh*tting.